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I have a question about NIP...

Is there anyone here, who breastfed their baby, who didn't NIP?

Can I be nosy and ask why not? 

Also, what did you do, for instance, in a restaurant, if you had a hungry screaming baby?

I'm really not trying to stir the pot, but I'm very curious (and very bored, lol).

 

 

 

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  • My friends who BF but didn't NIP, always brought pumped milk with them if they were out and needed to feed the baby.  The ones that did this, just didn't feel comfortable NIP, for different reasons.
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  • I only nip when I didn't have another option. At a restaurant, I went to my car and I was/am supplementing so if she would take it, I used those times to get a little formula into her. At a mall, I would go to a nursing room or find a private low traffic corner or go to my car. The only times I nip in a crowded area was an airplane and she was screaming and wouldn't take a bottle.
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  • I did not NIP, just wasn't comfortable with it but I am  fine with others who do. My DS was a frequent eater and would nurse 30 minutes at a time. I would just leave my house 20 minutes earlier and nurse in the car if it was a time I assumed he would be hungry. If I was going out for a nicer dinner or be with friends for a longer period of time, that is when I would use pumped milk. I do worry about what I will do when #2 comes along b/c that won't be as convenient.
  • Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  
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  • imagesmilee:
    Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  

    That's exactly what I'm trying to get at-the reasons they didn't/wouldn't NIP. 

    Is it the worry of offending or making someone else uncomfortable?  Or being uncomfortable with possibly showing part of the breast?  Or other reasons that I'm not thinking of?

    I had great NIP experiences.  The only time I was every uncomfortable was in my car.  I was nursing Caroline, and an elderly man can and stared at us through my car window.  It was kinda creepy...but kinda funny too. 

    Other than that, all I really ever got were sweet smiles when women realized what I was doing...as if they were fondly remembering nursing their babies. 

     

  • imagedana316:

    imagesmilee:
    Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  

    That's exactly what I'm trying to get at-the reasons they didn't/wouldn't NIP. 

    Is it the worry of offending or making someone else uncomfortable?  Or being uncomfortable with possibly showing part of the breast?  Or other reasons that I'm not thinking of?

    I had great NIP experiences.  The only time I was every uncomfortable was in my car.  I was nursing Caroline, and an elderly man can and stared at us through my car window.  It was kinda creepy...but kinda funny too. 

     

     

    Other than that, all I really ever got were sweet smiles when women realized what I was doing...as if they were fondly remembering nursing their babies. 

     

    I guess my point is that it would most likely be that they felt self-conscious for all of the reasons you listed- combined.  I think that when people feel uncomfortable about something, it may not always be reason specific, it might just "not be for them".

    Not that I am at all equating NIP with going to the bathroom in a public place, that is also something that makes some people uncomfortable.  If you asked them why- I bet you would not get a specific reason- I would think you would get a "because it makes me uncomfortable"

    Do you see what I am trying to say?

    I have been reading 8th grade writing all day and am fearful I am now starting to sound like one while trying to get my point across.  lol. 

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  • Elizabeth used a nipple shield the first five months. I don't think I ever nursed in public during that time because there was really no good way (at least I wasn't coordinated to find one!) to be discrete while getting the shield on, getting her latched, and then doing it all again when it came off or we switched sides. So we planned our outings so I could be back home to nurse or be somewhere that had a mother's/nursing room. Or I'd bring along a bottle of pumped milk.

    Once we were able to finally drop the shield, she was going longer between nursing sessions and I rarely needed to NIP, but if we were out when she needed to eat, I'd do so. No big deal at that point!

    But after 7/8 months, she was way too easily distracted, so I often ran out to the car or went to a dressing room/mothers room. It was just faster that way.

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  • I EBF two babies, and never NIP.  I just timed things so that I would feed before we would go somewhere. My thought when I read the other post was boy you all eat out more than me. I never spent that much time in restaurants.

    Nurse in the car, go into store. 

    By 6 months she never needed to feed, we gave solids and BF later at home.

    I did not feel it necessry to BF in public, and come from a very modest family. We just don't pass gas or burp or anything outside the restroom. My Mom had us excuse ourselves to blow our noses. It didn't seem like BFing should be any different. I do feel sort of like you all might think I am letting womanhood down for feeling this way.

  • imagesmilee:
    imagedana316:

    imagesmilee:
    Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  

    That's exactly what I'm trying to get at-the reasons they didn't/wouldn't NIP. 

    Is it the worry of offending or making someone else uncomfortable?  Or being uncomfortable with possibly showing part of the breast?  Or other reasons that I'm not thinking of?

    I had great NIP experiences.  The only time I was every uncomfortable was in my car.  I was nursing Caroline, and an elderly man can and stared at us through my car window.  It was kinda creepy...but kinda funny too. 

     

     

    Other than that, all I really ever got were sweet smiles when women realized what I was doing...as if they were fondly remembering nursing their babies. 

     

    I guess my point is that it would most likely be that they felt self-conscious for all of the reasons you listed- combined.  I think that when people feel uncomfortable about something, it may not always be reason specific, it might just "not be for them".

    Not that I am at all equating NIP with going to the bathroom in a public place, that is also something that makes some people uncomfortable.  If you asked them why- I bet you would not get a specific reason- I would think you would get a "because it makes me uncomfortable"

    Do you see what I am trying to say?

    Not really...sorry.  I'm just trying to figure out a specific reason...and several posters have supplied those. 

    If you asked me why I didn't want to use the bathroom in public, I could be very specific...I would, in no uncertain terms, tell you that I wouldn't want the public at large to see my girly parts and my cellulite covered rear end ;-)

    If I was uncomfortable NIP, I'm sure I'd know the reason why, and be able to express it.  I'm was always uncomfortable nursing, uncovered, in front of my FIL...because I didn't want him to see my boob.  I was uncomfortable, and had a very specific reason why.

    I'm uncomfortable doing lots of things, but I always know why...maybe that's just me?

     

     

  • I was never uncomfortable in public but I was sure as shootin' uncomfortable and cramped and HOT trying to do it in the car.  Which I've only done a handful of times to stop or avoid an impending meltdown.   I don't get why people are uncomfortable if other women do it, I guess I can live and let live if women are uncomfortable themselves in NIP but I don't understand for the life of me why one woman's own discomfort with NIP means that I can't NIP or I can only do so per their rules of modesty, which I understandably do not know.  But rest assured it is not my goal to flash anyone my nipples, I just want to feed my kid.
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  • imagedana316:
    imagesmilee:
    imagedana316:

    imagesmilee:
    Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  

    That's exactly what I'm trying to get at-the reasons they didn't/wouldn't NIP. 

    Is it the worry of offending or making someone else uncomfortable?  Or being uncomfortable with possibly showing part of the breast?  Or other reasons that I'm not thinking of?

    I had great NIP experiences.  The only time I was every uncomfortable was in my car.  I was nursing Caroline, and an elderly man can and stared at us through my car window.  It was kinda creepy...but kinda funny too. 

     

     

    Other than that, all I really ever got were sweet smiles when women realized what I was doing...as if they were fondly remembering nursing their babies. 

     

    I guess my point is that it would most likely be that they felt self-conscious for all of the reasons you listed- combined.  I think that when people feel uncomfortable about something, it may not always be reason specific, it might just "not be for them".

    Not that I am at all equating NIP with going to the bathroom in a public place, that is also something that makes some people uncomfortable.  If you asked them why- I bet you would not get a specific reason- I would think you would get a "because it makes me uncomfortable"

    Do you see what I am trying to say?

    Not really...sorry.  I'm just trying to figure out a specific reason...and several posters have supplied those. 

    If you asked me why I didn't want to use the bathroom in public, I could be very specific...I would, in no uncertain terms, tell you that I wouldn't want the public at large to see my girly parts and my cellulite covered rear end ;-)

    If I was uncomfortable NIP, I'm sure I'd know the reason why, and be able to express it.  I'm was always uncomfortable nursing, uncovered, in front of my FIL...because I didn't want him to see my boob.  I was uncomfortable, and had a very specific reason why.

    I'm uncomfortable doing lots of things, but I always know why...maybe that's just me?

     

     

    Not going to debate this.  It had very little to do with me anyway.

    I was just trying to make the point that sometimes "it is just not for me" is the answer- nothing more, nothing less.

    I guess I am the weird one here as there are things that I would not do that I just feel like "aren't for me" or that make me uncomfortable- and that is the sole reason.

     

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  • I exclusively pumped for DD1 so it wasn't an issue. But had she latched I would have been more modest than I have been with DD2. With 2 kids it was hard to step away at all during the early months because I hAd a 2 year old as well. I am a bit embarrassed how UN-modest I was with positioning trouble and a nipple shield!
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  • And for the record- I meant going to the bathroom in public as using a public facility.  Not dropping trouser in the middle of a mall.
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  • imagesmilee:
    imagedana316:
    imagesmilee:
    imagedana316:

    imagesmilee:
    Again, I did not BF long enough for this to be a concern, but I think it all comes down to your own personal comfort level.  I don't think most would think it is wrong to NIP, but it just might not be for them- for whatever reason.  

    That's exactly what I'm trying to get at-the reasons they didn't/wouldn't NIP. 

    Is it the worry of offending or making someone else uncomfortable?  Or being uncomfortable with possibly showing part of the breast?  Or other reasons that I'm not thinking of?

    I had great NIP experiences.  The only time I was every uncomfortable was in my car.  I was nursing Caroline, and an elderly man can and stared at us through my car window.  It was kinda creepy...but kinda funny too. 

     

     

    Other than that, all I really ever got were sweet smiles when women realized what I was doing...as if they were fondly remembering nursing their babies. 

     

    I guess my point is that it would most likely be that they felt self-conscious for all of the reasons you listed- combined.  I think that when people feel uncomfortable about something, it may not always be reason specific, it might just "not be for them".

    Not that I am at all equating NIP with going to the bathroom in a public place, that is also something that makes some people uncomfortable.  If you asked them why- I bet you would not get a specific reason- I would think you would get a "because it makes me uncomfortable"

    Do you see what I am trying to say?

    Not really...sorry.  I'm just trying to figure out a specific reason...and several posters have supplied those. 

    If you asked me why I didn't want to use the bathroom in public, I could be very specific...I would, in no uncertain terms, tell you that I wouldn't want the public at large to see my girly parts and my cellulite covered rear end ;-)

    If I was uncomfortable NIP, I'm sure I'd know the reason why, and be able to express it.  I'm was always uncomfortable nursing, uncovered, in front of my FIL...because I didn't want him to see my boob.  I was uncomfortable, and had a very specific reason why.

    I'm uncomfortable doing lots of things, but I always know why...maybe that's just me?

     

     

    Not going to debate this.  It had very little to do with me anyway.

    I was just trying to make the point that sometimes "it is just not for me" is the answer- nothing more, nothing less.

    I guess I am the weird one here as there are things that I would not do that I just feel like "aren't for me" or that make me uncomfortable- and that is the sole reason.

     

    I agree with you Smilee- I am not comfortable with NIP- and THAT is my reason.  I can't really pinpoint the exact reason why. its just how I feel...  and I am sure MANY others feel the same way.  I guess I don't see why this is an issue.  If someone doesn't feel comfortable with something, that is a reason.  My son is EBF, as was my daughter and I always managed to nurse her around events planned whether it be in the car, a dressing room or right before we went some where. 

    I do not judge people who NIP just as I expect people to not make me feel less of a breastfeeding mother because I do not.   Not really sure why it matters.  Our children are fed.

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  • I was not able to BF Ava for very long, and we had lots of latching problems, so maybe I'm not very qualified to answer your question.  But, I will say that I don't know that I would ever have been comfortable NIP.  I have no problem whatsoever with other women doing it, but like PP said, it was not for me.  Maybe it is my neighborhood/city, but I am very aware of others in public places, and there are some that come off as "creepy" to me.  Just today at the park with the girls, for example, a man that appeared mentally ill sat at a bench not too far away and just watched us.  No way would I have NIP in that park.

    Again, maybe it is because I had so much trouble nursing, but I viewed that time with Ava as very private, between the two of us.  The only person that I was comfortable nursing in front of (covered or not) was DH or an LC (and even that made me uncomfortable, but I did it because I wanted things to get better).

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  • I had never  had the option to BF but if I did I wouldn't have NIP at all. Just wouldn't have been that comfortable with it.

    To be honest, I'm kind of surprised at how open a lot of you are about it.  I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but at they boys first birthday, my cousin who has a DD a few months younger then the boys just started BFing in a room full of people at the party including men she didn't know.  She didn't cobut youver up at all.  A coupld people said something to me -like they couldn't believe she did that. I was kind of surprised as well-I would have thought she would have gone to another room. I realize that BFing ins't sexual at all but you are putting yourself out there and I think that you shoudl take into consider your surroundings and who you are around.

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  • I never did except one time with a cover and it was in a park so I was isolated but still really uncomfortable so I never did it again. I'm just very, very modest and ashamed of my body - I wouldn't even nurse in front of my mom, only DH and medical professionals (and even then if a nurse or something came in I would be really uncomfortable and try to cover myself unless they were there for the purpose of helping latch or something). At restaurants and stuff I would always nurse him in the car before we went in or pump in the car on the way there and bring it in. I also always combo fed BM and formula because of supply issues so we always had formula too (but I never skipped a single nursing session altogether for formula except when I had to be away from him which was very rarely before I went back to work). This was personal to me. I have zero issue with others NIP and agree with you on your thoughts in the prior post. ETA: to address some of your follow up questions, this had nothing to do with others feeling uncomfortable. Was 100% about me (guess I'm selfish, haha). Sorry for no paragraphs, on iPad.
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  • imageLisaandBryan:

    To be honest, I'm kind of surprised at how open a lot of you are about it.  I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but at they boys first birthday, my cousin who has a DD a few months younger then the boys just started BFing in a room full of people at the party including men she didn't know.  She didn't cobut youver up at all.  A coupld people said something to me -like they couldn't believe she did that. I was kind of surprised as well-I would have thought she would have gone to another room. I realize that BFing ins't sexual at all but you are putting yourself out there and I think that you shoudl take into consider your surroundings and who you are around.

    I don't think this is flammable but I guess I don't understand what you thought your cousin should have done?  Leave the party?  Sit in the corner? Let her DD scream or cry for milk?  You say that you thought she would have gone to another room but she didn't - so she was ok nursing where she was.  Doesn't that indicate that she's not concerned about the men she doesn't know? 

    I don't know that I've ever purposefully sat in the middle of a crowded room and NIP, but I've nursed DD at a birthday party with men I didn't know in attendance.  I don't know if they were concerned about my nursing DD but I didn't feel uncomfortable in the least, I would hope that would help put people at ease but I think it's probably not the case.  But here's the thing -- I can't walk around in my life wondering "gee, will someone be offended if I sit her in this restaurant/birthday party/church service/anyplace not in my own home and feed my daughter?"  I have to feed her.  She's old enough now that I can always put her off if it's not convenient for me, but I never put her off because I'm embarrassed to nurse her.  I get that many (not necessarily LisaandBryan- I don't want to put words in your mouth) are simply saying that they have concerns about what is appropriate and that they may choose to NIP but be covered or "discrete" in order to take into account others' possible feelings, but I think I do that without a cover, shoot at home I sit around with my boob out, I promise I don't do that in public LOL.  I just don't understand why on this one issue it seems to be ok to tell another woman what she can do with her body because it offends or may offend someone within eye sight.

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  • imagesmilee:

    Not going to debate this.  It had very little to do with me anyway.

    I was just trying to make the point that sometimes "it is just not for me" is the answer- nothing more, nothing less.

    I guess I am the weird one here as there are things that I would not do that I just feel like "aren't for me" or that make me uncomfortable- and that is the sole reason.

    I'm not trying to start a debate...I just asked a question that I was honestly curious about. 

    I've always been a "why" kind of person.  If I ask my DH a question, and he gives me an answer, my next question is always "why?".  I'm always curious about the reasons behind things. 

    I always have reasons for the things I do or don't do.  That just makes sense in my world. 

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.  No big deal...

     

     

  • imageRegina+Philangey:

    I do feel sort of like you all might think I am letting womanhood down for feeling this way.

    Not at ALL!  I was just curious about the reasons people don't NIP. 

    Modesty is a perfectly good reason, in my book.  I'm pretty modest myself...but not about NIP, for some reason.

     

  • imageschmoodle:
    I never did except one time with a cover and it was in a park so I was isolated but still really uncomfortable so I never did it again. I'm just very, very modest and ashamed of my body - I wouldn't even nurse in front of my mom, only DH and medical professionals (and even then if a nurse or something came in I would be really uncomfortable and try to cover myself unless they were there for the purpose of helping latch or something). At restaurants and stuff I would always nurse him in the car before we went in or pump in the car on the way there and bring it in. I also always combo fed BM and formula because of supply issues so we always had formula too (but I never skipped a single nursing session altogether for formula except when I had to be away from him which was very rarely before I went back to work). This was personal to me. I have zero issue with others NIP and agree with you on your thoughts in the prior post. ETA: to address some of your follow up questions, this had nothing to do with others feeling uncomfortable. Was 100% about me (guess I'm selfish, haha). Sorry for no paragraphs, on iPad.

    This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.  I was trying to get at whether it had to do with modesty, or fear or offending someone else.

    Thanks, K!

     

  • imageGypsyEsq:
      I don't get why people are uncomfortable if other women do it, I guess I can live and let live if women are uncomfortable themselves in NIP but I don't understand for the life of me why one woman's own discomfort with NIP means that I can't NIP or I can only do so per their rules of modesty, which I understandably do not know. 

    This is such a great point. 

    Thank you.

     

     

  • imagedana316:

     This is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for.  I was trying to get at whether it had to do with modesty, or fear or offending someone else.

     

    Like I said I never BFed so obvioulsy didn't NIP but I woulnd't for both those.  I would feel uncomfortable if I knew if made others uncomfortable too..if that makes sense!!

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  • imagedana316:
    imageRegina+Philangey:

    I do feel sort of like you all might think I am letting womanhood down for feeling this way.

    Not at ALL!  I was just curious about the reasons people don't NIP. 

    Modesty is a perfectly good reason, in my book.  I'm pretty modest myself...but not about NIP, for some reason.

     

    Okay, this is my last post and then I am going to go back to grading my papers...

    I think you are awesome and I adore that little cutie and that smirk on her face an enjoy your posts because I get to see he revery time

    But I think what I have bolded is why this post is rubbing me the wrong way.  Why does anyone's reason not to NIP have to be a good reason in YOUR book.  I felt like when you posted this, you were looking for reasons that made sense to YOU.  That is why I tried to point out that sometimes- a person might not want to- for no other reason than she might not want to.

    And when I pointed that out, that did not seem to be a good enough reason for you.

     

     

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  • I combo fed Eliza for over a year, so a bottle was always an option, but I tried to bf first. Anyway, I NIP all the time - the mall, zoo, family gatherings picnics etc...and never blinked an eye at doing so & never got the sideeye from anyone. Late last summer we were at dh's company picnic & it was easily the hottest day of the yr. Me and the baby were sweating like beasts, she was fussy & needed to nurse. Instead of sitting on the picnic blanket, sweaty & uncomfortable, I decided to walk up to the lodge where we would be in shade & I could sit at a table - it also happened to be way less crowded up there. I'm not gonna lie, part of the reason I went up to the lodge was to avoid making anyone uncomfortable. I just didn't want dh's CEO catching a glimpse of my nips or my gut for that matter. It just made sense at the moment. Wouldn't you know one of the partners wives was an LC & gave me a rash & a sh!t for NOT nursing at the picnic and choosing to go to the lodge? I felt like I had to explain and defend myself to her and talk about how I always NIP. She grilled me though & it sucked. I still feel I did the right thing in the given situation and would handle it the same in the future. I guess this is my long, drawn out way of saying I see both sides? While I nip regularly, it seemed that circumstance called for more discretion & even then I ended up offending the LC and feeling uncomfortable anyway... Sorry for formatting typing on iPhone.
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  • I have never been uncomfortable NIP, but the first time I ever did it I was nervous. Just because it was something new for me, and even though I was covered, I definitely knew I would feel more exposed. But once i did it the first time, it was like nothing to do  it again. I never got any looks or comments other than "atta-girls" and lots of positive comments.

    That said, I have talked to people who have gotten negative comments and looks and that has made them uncomfortable, so I wonder if the fear of  judgement or criticism is what the issue is for some people. I'm sure if I got that kind of reaction as opposed to what I received, it would make me sad, but only sad because because people still view it as shameful or gross or attach a stigma to it. But that would never make me not do it or stop doing it. I believe strongly in what I am doing and nothing would shame me away from it.

    I have rarely seen anyone NIP and that's too bad that more women don't feel comfortable. I think that if there were more people out there doing it, it would be less of an oddity or less of something to be disturbed by, it would just be normalized, as harmless to other people as feeding a bottle in public. And on that same token, I wonder if more women would feel comfortable doing it if that stigma or fear weren't there? It seems like a cycle.

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  • imagesmilee:
    imagedana316:
    imageRegina+Philangey:

    I do feel sort of like you all might think I am letting womanhood down for feeling this way.

    Not at ALL!  I was just curious about the reasons people don't NIP. 

    Modesty is a perfectly good reason, in my book.  I'm pretty modest myself...but not about NIP, for some reason.

     

    Okay, this is my last post and then I am going to go back to grading my papers...

    I think you are awesome and I adore that little cutie and that smirk on her face an enjoy your posts because I get to see he revery time

    But I think what I have bolded is why this post is rubbing me the wrong way.  Why does anyone's reason not to NIP have to be a good reason in YOUR book.  I felt like when you posted this, you were looking for reasons that made sense to YOU.  That is why I tried to point out that sometimes- a person might not want to- for no other reason than she might not want to.

    And when I pointed that out, that did not seem to be a good enough reason for you.

    Well, I think you are awesome too...and you know I think your sweet boy is the bees knees ;-)

    I'll be honest and say that I did give that phrasing a second thought before I posted it...but was unsure of how else to word what I wanted to say. 

    I guess what I've been trying to say (and doing a piss poor job of saying it), is that I don't CARE if a Mom choses not to NIP, I am just curious about the reasoning behind it.

    Now, I have a pressing game of patty cake that I must attend to ;-)

     

  • I guess I just get this vibe from this post and the previous post that you think those that choose not to NIP aren't quite as, well, sophisticated, or in tune, as those that do. NIP is great if it works for you, but why do you have to question other's motives?

    It just feels like now it isn't enough to EBF our babies, we have to EBF and feed in public with no regard to the rest of the world, or some LC will call us out at a company picnic, or some message board will question why we didn't. 

    To ask to be allowed to BF in public is fair. To "lose your ***" because people in the world aren't comfortable with it seems harsh.

  • imageRegina+Philangey:

    I guess I just get this vibe from this post and the previous post that you think those that choose not to NIP aren't quite as, well, sophisticated, or in tune, as those that do. NIP is great if it works for you, but why do you have to question other's motives?

    It just feels like now it isn't enough to EBF our babies, we have to EBF and feed in public with no regard to the rest of the world, or some LC will call us out at a company picnic, or some message board will question why we didn't. 

    To ask to be allowed to BF in public is fair. To "lose your ***" because people in the world aren't comfortable with it seems harsh.

    Totally agree!!  I don't think you meant it liek that but your "tone" is  a little offputting.  Just like you don't want anyone to judge you for the choice you make to NIP, why judge others and question why they don't want to NIP?

    IF you feel this strongly about NIP , I can only imagine how you feel about women who GASP! choose not to BF at all. 

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  • imageRegina+Philangey:

    I guess I just get this vibe from this post and the previous post that you think those that choose not to NIP aren't quite as, well, sophisticated, or in tune, as those that do. NIP is great if it works for you, but why do you have to question other's motives?

    It just feels like now it isn't enough to EBF our babies, we have to EBF and feed in public with no regard to the rest of the world, or some LC will call us out at a company picnic, or some message board will question why we didn't. 

    To ask to be allowed to BF in public is fair. To "lose your ***" because people in the world aren't comfortable with it seems harsh.

    I kinda got that vibe too...   

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  • imageRegina+Philangey:

    I guess I just get this vibe from this post and the previous post that you think those that choose not to NIP aren't quite as, well, sophisticated, or in tune, as those that do. NIP is great if it works for you, but why do you have to question other's motives?

    I don't feel that way at all.  Not even a little bit...

    I was curious.  I stated that in my OP.

    I apologize if I offended, it wasn't my intention in the least.

     

  • With DS I nursed in public once- outside at a craft fair.

    I NIP often with DD because she isn't a fan of formula and I don't pump. However- I always have my cover and I try to be out of the center of attention. So for 7 months I have nursed at the park, mall play area, restaurants, friends houses, birthday parties etc. HOWEVER, I still am uncomfortable when women do not cover themselves. My reasoning... It always makes me do a double take. I then feel that I'm staring or that I was rude because I looked. But I don't think that they shouldn't be feeding their child.

    A reason why I make sure I am fully covered... breasts are sexual. (They are sensitve and get aroused- no fighting that issue) I would not be ok with a man looking at me feeding my daughter and getting turned on by seeing my side boob. The mental image in his head includes my baby. That is NOT ok. I am all for getting drunk and flashing someone the goods- doesn't bother me in the least... but my child is not involved with that.

    Does that make sense? I'm far from modest- but when it comes to my child I am.

    Feeding your baby anyway you can is cool... lets not forget that.

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  • I haven't really done it yet because I don't think we're coordinated enough. DS pulls off a lot (dousing me in milk), and I have to relatch him a lot, and I still have to support the boob for him. I feel like all of this combined would make it hard to do under a cover (and I would want to use a cover).
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  • imageLisaandBryan:
    imageRegina+Philangey:

    I guess I just get this vibe from this post and the previous post that you think those that choose not to NIP aren't quite as, well, sophisticated, or in tune, as those that do. NIP is great if it works for you, but why do you have to question other's motives?

    It just feels like now it isn't enough to EBF our babies, we have to EBF and feed in public with no regard to the rest of the world, or some LC will call us out at a company picnic, or some message board will question why we didn't. 

    To ask to be allowed to BF in public is fair. To "lose your ***" because people in the world aren't comfortable with it seems harsh.

    Totally agree!!  I don't think you meant it liek that but your "tone" is  a little offputting.  Just like you don't want anyone to judge you for the choice you make to NIP, why judge others and question why they don't want to NIP?

    IF you feel this strongly about NIP , I can only imagine how you feel about women who GASP! choose not to BF at all. 

    Wow.  I wasn't judging AT ALL.  I was curious about why people don't do it.  What is wrong with that?  Was it wrong even to ask?  If so, I apologize.

    As far as your GASP!...well, that's just not fair, and it is incredibly hurtful.  I've never judged a woman for not breastfeeing her child, and would never. 

    I'm not sure what else to say.

     

     

     

     

  • imageTheSkimmy:

    With DS I nursed in public once- outside at a craft fair.

    I NIP often with DD because she isn't a fan of formula and I don't pump. However- I always have my cover and I try to be out of the center of attention. So for 7 months I have nursed at the park, mall play area, restaurants, friends houses, birthday parties etc. HOWEVER, I still am uncomfortable when women do not cover themselves. My reasoning... It always makes me do a double take. I then feel that I'm staring or that I was rude because I looked. But I don't think that they shouldn't be feeding their child.

    A reason why I make sure I am fully covered... breasts are sexual. (They are sensitve and get aroused- no fighting that issue) I would not be ok with a man looking at me feeding my daughter and getting turned on by seeing my side boob. The mental image in his head includes my baby. That is NOT ok. I am all for getting drunk and flashing someone the goods- doesn't bother me in the least... but my child is not involved with that.

    Does that make sense? I'm far from modest- but when it comes to my child I am.

    Feeding your baby anyway you can is cool... lets not forget that.

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  • Totally agree!!  I don't think you meant it liek that but your "tone" is  a little offputting.  Just like you don't want anyone to judge you for the choice you make to NIP, why judge others and question why they don't want to NIP?

    IF you feel this strongly about NIP , I can only imagine how you feel about women who GASP! choose not to BF at all. 

    Wow. Dana is so not like that, and it was really unnecessary for you to go there.

    Its too bad that every other parenting decision can be discussed rationally by both sides of the coin, but as soon as anyone asks a 'curious' question about decisions regarding breastfeeding, it incites a *** storm. The double standard on these boards is ridiculous. Why can't someone just be genuinely curious? When people are curious about why someone chose to CIO or not to, everyone else has no problem talking about their motivations. I think Dana really was just bored and curious, and people keep trying to blow it up.

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  • imageCassian:

    Totally agree!!  I don't think you meant it liek that but your "tone" is  a little offputting.  Just like you don't want anyone to judge you for the choice you make to NIP, why judge others and question why they don't want to NIP?

    IF you feel this strongly about NIP , I can only imagine how you feel about women who GASP! choose not to BF at all. 

    Wow. Dana is so not like that, and it was really unnecessary for you to go there.

     Haven't been aro'und much so I dont "know" her or "know" what is she is like, so just from an "outsider" that's just how it comes off to me.  And I odn't think my above statement is that unreasonableat all. I mean obviously she is very pro NIP and therefore pro-BF and  and needs  a reason why someone wouldnt  wan tto NIP then I dont see how post of "give me a reason why you choose nto to BF" would be so different.   Maybe judge was the wrong word to use but again the tone of her posts seems to indicate that feels very strongly about certain things.

     

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  • I nursed dd for a year (she never took a bottle) and am nursing ds now and have never NIP.  I always nurse before we head out and then I'm set for several hours.

    If I'm going out to eat I nurse before we leave and then I'm set for a couple of hours.  When I'd go out shopping I'd use the mothers room at Nordstroms and there was only a few times where there was another nursing mom in the room with me.  I've nursed in the back seat of our SUV a few times when we've been on road trips and stopped to use the bathroom and fuel up but I wasn't going to nurse in a public restroom at a gas station. If I have to nurse at the doctors office I just let them know and they give me an empty room to use (or let me stay in the room we are already using).  I nurse at my family and friends houses but I don't consider that NIP.

    Since DS will take a bottle of pumped milk (unlike DD) I would consider bringing a bottle if I knew I was going to be out longer than a few hours so I could feed him using that instead of NIP because it seems easier.  I don't feel like I'm coordinated enough to NIP without flashing everyone.  Plus since I don't normally cover DH when I nurse he would probably try and push any covering away (at least that is what dd would do).

     


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  • imageCassian:

    [Its too bad that every other parenting decision can be discussed rationally by both sides of the coin, but as soon as anyone asks a 'curious' question about decisions regarding breastfeeding, it incites a *** storm. The double standard on these boards is ridiculous. Why can't someone just be genuinely curious? When people are curious about why someone chose to CIO or not to, everyone else has no problem talking about their motivations. I think Dana really was just bored and curious, and people keep trying to blow it up.

    And really how is that being irrational?  Seriously umm hardly a *** storm. Chill out. I'm just sharing my opinion as well. 

    ANd the double standards are ridiculous because as someone who is not around much anymore , I can almost guarantee if I posted something like "Tell me why you bedshare because I genuinely don't understand that"  I would most likely get negagive feedback.

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  • I'm late to the party, and I nursed in public only with a nursing cover, but I honestly think a lot of the uncomfortableness has to do with the fact that NIP, especially without a cover, was not all that common until recently, at least as far as I have seen. In some states, including MA where I live, NIP was not legally protected until very recently. In theory, you could be kicked out of places or even go to jail for NIP (not that the latter ever happened, I'm sure.) Of course, that was wrong, and I'm glad that women's right to NIP is now protected in most states. But I think that precedent contributes a lot to people's lack of comfort in NIP or seeing others NIP. There's still this sentiment that it's somehow taboo.


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