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Unpopular Opinion Tuesday
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Re: Unpopular Opinion Tuesday
Actually your screaming it, but that's ok. If you feel like your job sucks, vent about it. Maybe teachers are just more vocal (at least the bump teachers) or maybe because it irks you, you just notice when teachers vent and not really notice when someone else vents.
My husband loves his job, and the company treats him great. He's a machinist in a small company in MD. So it's usually me venting about my job to him. And since most of my friends are teachers too, I usually only hear teacher vent. I wouldn't say it's rare for people to feel valued. I think the ones who don't just are more vocal about it!
what is your degree in?
In response to the teacher UO:
I don't necessarily feel underpaid because generally teachers are paid on a step system that increases as your experience increases. What I have a problem with is tax payers/community members spouting off about us making "80k a year and working 3 hours a day"....comments like this (recent editorial in our local newspaper) are completely false and really give the community a bad taste in their mouth about teachers.
One thing about our pay that I have a problem with is that we're required to have our master's degree within 5 years of graduating with our Bachelors (I've been teaching for 8 years so I'm long done with this). They are increasing the professional development responsibilities, cutting programs, cutting funding (basically meaning that I have to buy supplies and other things I'd like to have my students experience), and adding to the requirements teachers must meet to obtain their professional certification all at the same time. All of these things combine to create a job that probably should be paid more than $38,000 (starting salary in my district- $39,500 with a master's degree). And no, our district doesn't pay for any part of your master's degree incase anyone might think that.
haha, no. Sustainable Development. I did minor in communication though.
I think teachers are so defensive because they have to be. They are targeted all over the country lately (they and their Unions).
interesting.
edit: dammit. that was supposed to be a quote. i give up.
ashnoelle- what can you do with that? it sounds fancy.
as far as the teachers discussion. i am not a teacher and i think they are underpaid. i could never in a million years do what they do. i think the teachers who are good at what they do deserve to be making six figures.
I dislike this. I would be frusterated if I was in your shoes.
DS - 5/2010
DD - 6-2013
TTC #3 - Cycle #9
Sends e-hug!
this is the easiest way to explain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_development
We spent the first half of our major figuring out what SD is.
And I can go to grad school with this degree! I had planned on grad school anyway, but wanted some work experience first. At the moment, my new, higher paying job, gets me 15 grand a year.
If you fly the confederate flag, you are either a racist or you are someone who is ok with the world thinking you are a racist. Either way, I don't want anyting to do with you.
We have Irish flags all over the place. I obviously hate America.
No where did I say anyone hated America.
DS - 5/2010
DD - 6-2013
TTC #3 - Cycle #9
I didn't say you said that. It was a bit TIC sarcasm.
Here's the thing....
"I would kill for your hours"
1. You could have had them, go into teaching.
2. Do you realize most teachers take home grading/lesson plans every night?
3. I don't know about other states, but I get 10 days off for sickness/kids sickness/funerals whatever per year. Try taking maternity leave with 10 days paid off per year
"you have a crap ton of work to do and no one to cover for you"
When I'm gone, my work doesn't sit on my desk and wait for me I have to write detailed plans telling someone else how to try and do it. That might seem like a blessing but it's really not. It's annoying to be vomiting and trying to type at the same time.
I'm not asking for poor teachers by any means. But just because everyone went to school everyone thinks they understand exactly what goes into our jobs. I enjoy being a teacher, but like any job there are down sides. I'd say one of the largest is other folks telling us how good we have it. Come join us, our profession stands to lose a ton of good folks in the next few years.
I don't think I'm underpaid as a teacher. I never b!tch about it. In fact, I was shocked at how much I made my first year.
That being said, the "I would kill for your hours" pisses me off. You have NO clue. Zero. And me explaining it won't change your mind. So I'm not going to try.
I teach at a charter school, which has 60% of the budget of regular public schools. Because of budget issues, public schools aren't hiring, hence why I've been here for two years. I get paid $10-15k less than first year teachers at all the districts in my area and have half (and sometimes more than half) of the paid personal days that they do. In that regard, I am definitely underpaid compared to my teaching peers in the state. I don't think that the profession as a whole is underpaid, but I do believe it is undervalued - not just by administration (as a pp said), but by the community and state. State legislators cut education funding without batting an eye. Parents don't care if their kids come to school or what goes on there, but they still blame the teacher if the kid is not achieving.
As for hours, we have lots of time away from the school building, but not as much time as you think that is purely "time off". I spend evenings and weekends grading, planning, making powerpoints, designing activities and amassing their related supplies, previewing video clips, etc. Summers are to get a jump in planning for next year and to attend countless professional development workshops. We're not just popping bon-bons and waiting for August to roll around...
btw, I realize many people bring work home. Thats not the only issue re: time off. Yes we have the summer "off" (we aren't paid for it so its not really "off") but we have zero flexibility during the school year. Thats huge.
I think its pretty rare for treachers to be able to pick their kids up every day at 3. I know that I am in the process of looking for day care and I need them to keep DD until AT LEAST 4, and be flexible to 5 or later on many nights. They have to be open to take her at 7 am. So yes, we tend to get out a bit earlier at night, but we also tend to start our days earlier, too. Most people don't consider that.
BUT, I realize there are a ton of perks to being a teacher, hence why I don't b!tch. And, I love it. That is what is important. I just don't like the teacher hate, either, especially when its based on false assumptions. KWIM? I know you feel the same way about your job, and I promise I do not make assumptions about gov't workers.
Your sisters hours are insane! Not only can she pick up her kid every day at 3, but she gets TWO weeks for spring break?!?! Holy moly!
But anywho, I'm sosry you are having a bad day
I'm a little late to the party. But what difference does it make if someone display their heritage via other methods on their cars or homes, but not specifically a flag or bumper sticker?
I'd think it's pretty cool if Isiah wanted to express his heritage is both Chinese and American when he is older. If he wanted to have only Chinese related things to decorate the inside of his car (like how people have things in the back window), would that be just as obnoxious as a Chinese flag on his antenna or a bumper sticker, along with an American flag or something?
Not sure if I'm confused on all this.
Was there a link on P&CE? I saw both you and Julie on here. I missed it!
And good call on professor. Or maybe a teacher at a CC?