Toddlers: 12 - 24 Months

Surprised by Nap Nazis

Wow, I am just amazed by all the mom's that are so determined to have their kids nap at a certain time! I'm not criticizing, I just can't relate.

I work full time and just cannot possibly imagine having to block out a set couple hours of each day on my days off as times where we couldn't do anything or be anywhere except for home. I would never be able to get anything done or make plans with friends, playdates, errands, etc.

I understand within reason, like I know that I should either be at home or plan to be leaving in the car sometime between 10am and noon, that way DS can get a nap in before leaving or take a nap in the car before we go somewhere. Sometimes that means that I leave really early for a birthday party, etc. so that he can finish his nap in the car before the party.

How do you do this?! You guys are making me feel like a selfish mommy!

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  • I've just always put C's napping as a priority. She's never been great at napping anywhere besides her crib. It's pretty easy to get all my my errands/play dates/classes done in the morning and then she goes down for a nap between 1:00-1:30. If there are things to do afterwards, we go do those once she is up.
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  • After becoming a mom I learned that I have a very type A personality.  Naps are one thing that I can predict so I've always done them at the same time (since she put herself on a routine).  Hey, whatever works best for you!
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  • Don't feel bad about your LO"s nap schedule, you have to do what works for YOU!

    As a working mom myself, I can relate.

    My DS can nap anywhere, car, stroller, crib, pack-n-play, in my arms etc... because he's gotten used to going to sleep when he's tired no matter where we are. That works for us.

    I have a friend who plans her day around her son's naps, that works for her.

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  • If it's a normal day I schedule grocery shopping and what not around naps.  If there is a special occasion, such as a birthday, I'm going to move things around some.
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  • I'm with you.  I've just found that going with the flow is best for my son, which is so foreign to me since I tend to be more of an A-type person.  He just does so much better when we're more spontaneous, and tends to get cranky when we're on a schedule doing the same thing over and over.  It's weird; I've become chill as a parent! 

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  • This is easy for me.  They nap at 1130.  So if I plan something, I plan it in the morning or in the afternoon. 

    I think how much strict you need to be depends on your situation. I have twins, my life needs a schedule...its how we survive.

    If I only had my DS, I probably would be very relaxed about naps because he handles being tired very well.  He can miss a nap and be OK.

    If I had only my DD, I probably would be more strict about naptime because when she is tired, she completely melts down.  Who wants to be out with a toddler when that happens?

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  • We were really strict with DS's naps but recently because he is a little older we are a little more flexible.  We do try to put him down between 11:00 - 12:30PM.  Before we would stick with a set time such as 11PM.  It makes it easier for us and makes for a happy child.  

    You have to do what works for you and your LO.  :) Don't feel bad. 

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  • I am a nap nazi because it took me literally MONTHS to get her to nap in her crib instead of in arms, and for more than 20 or 30 minutes at a time. Now that we have a routine and normal length naps, I stick to it as much as possible. It also makes bedtime so much easier if she's had her regular naps. I will change things a little for special occasions or unavoidable situations, but in general naps are sacred.
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  • Hey, if it works for you, I say more power to you.  I work full time as well, and I totally understand wanting to have a more fluid schedule on your days off.  But, if I don't keep DS on a routine nap-wise, a lot of bad things happen!  For one, our DCP gets pissed because then DS naps like crap for her for a couple days.  Also, DS sleeps really badly at night if he doesn't have a good nap during the day, and he won't have a good nap if we stray too far from his schedule.  But yeah, there are definitely days where I wish we could have our afternoons free and don't have to rush home by 1 to make sure he gets a nap.
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  • I really think a large part of it is adapting to what works for your LO. DD would rarely nap anywhere but home until she was about 15 months old. Despite people insisting, oh, she'll just sleep in the car/stroller/on the subway/etc., this was not the case and after a few times of spending 45 minutes with an overtired, screaming baby in a car or in public to get somewhere, I decided it wasn't worth it to upend her routine just to do something for myself. She went down to 1 nap/day at 1 year of age and it was quite easy to make sure I was home between 12-2 every day. Christmas or special occasions along those lines, sure, I'd give up naps for a day for something like that and I even traveled with DD a lot when she was a baby, but for just any old thing? Nope. I found I had plenty of time to get things done with her during her waking hours. And now that she doesn't nap at all, I kind of miss the quiet downtime at home I used to get every day.

     

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  • I'm with you.  My DDs both take afternoon naps, but if we have somewhere to be or something takes longer than planned, I just give them a later nap, they sleep in the car. 

    Neither one acts horribly if they miss a nap, so I am lucky in that. 

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  • I think I'm kind of a nap nazi.  Once DS was on a nap schedule, he starting sleeping through the night. But we don't have set times for naps - it's more like he's been awake for x hours so we'll put him down.  He tends to wake up at the same time, so his naps are usually at the same time, but not always.  PLUS he does not nap in the car.  If he does, maybe it's 20 minutes. And then I have a very cranky child.
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  • Do what works for your kid.  If you did what you do with my kid you would be a very selfish mommy, because she'd be falling asleep and crying while you dragged her around.
  • I am big on my child getting enough sleep.  He is very laid back, but melts down if he is sleepy!  I will not necessarily plan my weekends around his nap schedule, but when we are out and about, I do try and make sure he goes down for a nap.  He will sleep in the car or his stroller, so we are lucky in that respect.  We were shopping a few weekends ago, and he slept for 2 hours in his stroller, and would have slept longer, but he woke up while DH was putting him in the car.

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  • I'm a SAHM.  I kinda plan our day around her nap because I can.  I can shift her nap by two hours.  So she can nap anywhere from 10ish through to 1-1:30  and whenever she goes down she'll generally sleep for 2 hours.  We do stuff in the morning and stuff in the afternoon.  We do A LOT of stuff!
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  • I have 2U2 and I am a what you call a "Nap Nazis"- we do keep a strict schedule and we work everything around our kids.  I work part time and still get everything down around the house without issues (before my 2nd I worked full time and again no issues getting things done).  Both our kids were sleeping 12 hours by 8 weeks old and before that we're sleeping 8 hour stretches before waking to nurse so I don't mess with good sleepers.  Sometimes friends/family give us a hard time but I very bluntly tell them DH and I waited a long time to have kids (we got out all our me time) and now that we have kids they are our priority and as long as we're will them we're not missing out on a thing.
  • My LO takes a nap after lunch.  This is what he does at daycare, so I like to keep him on the same routine.  There are times when he misses a nap or goes down a little late, but I find it's easiest to keep him on the routine.  I can work around it--we do a lot of things in the morning, I do some me time after lunch, and we can do more in the afternoon.
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  • If I don't keep a consistent nap routine, it makes for a miserable day for everyone involved.  Yeah, it stinks that I can't run errands with them at certain times, but anytime I break routine and let one (or both) of them skip a nap, it's Meltdown City.  I am of the camp "good sleep breeds good sleep" though, and it has proven true for my kids.  If they take their naps, they sleep peacefully through the night (7 pm - 6:30 am), and if they don't, they are up and fussy in the night.  I do sometimes envy people who can just up and go at anytime during the day, though!
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    I've just always put C's napping as a priority. She's never been great at napping anywhere besides her crib. It's pretty easy to get all my my errands/play dates/classes done in the morning and then she goes down for a nap between 1:00-1:30. If there are things to do afterwards, we go do those once she is up.

    This. My son won't nap anywhere but his crib either. And hello, his 3 hr nap is my break time, to cook, clean, nap, whatever! Why would I skip that :) 

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  • I think it really depends on the kid.  Clearly your kid handles your type of go with the flow lifestyle, which is similar to how I'd like to be, but not my DD.  We do not have a set time, but an idea of when she will usually need to go down by.  Often it is based on when she wakes up, which is never consistent.  I can push her nap time to run errands or finish up a playdate, but I probably would never do a lunch date as she would be a hot mess.  I also miss my window of opportunity for her to nap if I don't get her down before she falls asleep in the car.  If I push back too late and she falls asleep in the car for 5 mins, I don't get a nap from her and she is usually pretty cranky.  It also works out that most kids her age are napping around the same time.  If something important or special comes up, we can skip the nap or try to move the time, but it can sometimes be a nightmare and stressful (for me, mostly). 
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  • Our kid napped anywhere until maybe 5 months, but then that ability just vanished.  We could still be more flexible until we went down to one nap at maybe 11 months, and there was nothing in the world that we could do to get him to take a second nap, no matter how crappy/short the first one was. To this day, if the kid falls asleep in the car for ten minutes, that's all he can get for the day no matter how sleepy and cranky he gets.  No nap or short nap means bedtime will be a mess, which means night time will be a mess, which means I'll be a mess the next day.

    We can mess with timing some, and it's not THE END OF THE WORLD if we miss a nap, but it'll us up for a few days, so it's to be avoided if at all possible.  Also, keeping a rough schedule will help daycare go better, and since he just started recently and hates it, I'd feel crappy if I didn't do what I could to make it easier for him.

    But that entire post could be: the needs of every kid and family are different.  The End.

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    I've just always put C's napping as a priority. She's never been great at napping anywhere besides her crib. It's pretty easy to get all my my errands/play dates/classes done in the morning and then she goes down for a nap between 1:00-1:30. If there are things to do afterwards, we go do those once she is up.

    This. My son won't nap anywhere but his crib either. And hello, his 3 hr nap is my break time, to cook, clean, nap, whatever! Why would I skip that :) 



    This! DS might (if he's really tired) fall asleep in the car but for the most part he will only nap in his crib. I do however make adjustments if there is a birthday/holiday. Messing with his nap does mean that he will wake up in the middle of the night and early the next day, so I rarely make an exception.
  • Sleep, routine and schedule were always important to us.

    We made it a priority and I feel that it has paid off (this is the part where you go blah blah blah stfu haha - he is a very happy child (rarely cries/fusses), he handles change and new situations well, he sleeps 11-12 hrs/night, he takes a 1.5 hr nap, the last time we were 'summoned' to his room during the night was 6 months old, he is advanced verbally, speaking in sentences - he is also very flexible with his sleep without melt down if we do have to alter things due to travel, etc. 

    Maybe it's just him/genetics/personality and has nothing to do with what we did with his sleep schedule/routine but research indicates otherwise.

    Personally, I'm a bit offended at the reference to 'nazi' and I also equally don't get parents who just fly by the seat of their pants with something as important as their child's sleep. I DO get your situation you have very little time with your child, perhaps, and so you don't want to have to 'lose' time with them or on running errands. It's just not my style.  We each choose our own path and hope that it is the right decision for our child/family.

  • When B was younger it was no big thing. We could be out and about, and he'd nap when he napped, wherever - car, stroller, crib. Now ... just doesn't happen. He'll keep himself up and not nap at all, or it gets too late to nap and he's fussy until bedtime, or he passes out in the car and gets pissed if we wake him up when we get where we're going. 

    Presently, he's doing his damnedest to drop naps entirely, and every day we're not at home for him to nap properly is another day closer to that unpleasant reality. I don't have to be a nap nazi about it, but if I don't I can kiss that hour or so that I have to myself goodbye, because he will not go back to napping if I let it go too many days in a row. Sucks, but it is what it is.

    I think if you have the kind of kid who will sleep on YOUR schedule, that's awesome, but don't judge people who have kids who only sleep on their OWN schedule.  

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    Wow, I am just amazed by all the mom's that are so determined to have their kids nap at a certain time! I'm not criticizing, I just can't relate.

    I work full time and just cannot possibly imagine having to block out a set couple hours of each day on my days off as times where we couldn't do anything or be anywhere except for home. I would never be able to get anything done or make plans with friends, playdates, errands, etc.

    I understand within reason, like I know that I should either be at home or plan to be leaving in the car sometime between 10am and noon, that way DS can get a nap in before leaving or take a nap in the car before we go somewhere. Sometimes that means that I leave really early for a birthday party, etc. so that he can finish his nap in the car before the party.

    How do you do this?! You guys are making me feel like a selfish mommy!

     

    I work full time too. It's about planning. I plan around his naps, so I can still get my sh*t done, and he's not an angry bear because he only got a 20 minute nap in the car. I don't really think that planning to be home for a couple of hours each day is a stretch for anyone, personally.

  • if my ds naps in the car it usually only lasts for half an hour. he needs more sleep than that. on the weekends i know that he'll nap around 11:30 or 12. i plan my stuff around that.
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    Sleep, routine and schedule were always important to us.

    We made it a priority and I feel that it has paid off (this is the part where you go blah blah blah stfu haha - he is a very happy child (rarely cries/fusses), he handles change and new situations well, he sleeps 11-12 hrs/night, he takes a 1.5 hr nap, the last time we were 'summoned' to his room during the night was 6 months old, he is advanced verbally, speaking in sentences - he is also very flexible with his sleep without melt down if we do have to alter things due to travel, etc. 

    Maybe it's just him/genetics/personality and has nothing to do with what we did with his sleep schedule/routine but research indicates otherwise.

    Personally, I'm a bit offended at the reference to 'nazi' and I also equally don't get parents who just fly by the seat of their pants with something as important as their child's sleep. I DO get your situation you have very little time with your child, perhaps, and so you don't want to have to 'lose' time with them or on running errands. It's just not my style.  We each choose our own path and hope that it is the right decision for our child/family.

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    It took me a long time to get DD to nap for longer than 40 minutes at a time, so when she finally started consistently napping at the same time each day for 1.5 each nap, I made the decision not to mess with it.  It is actually very easy to schedule around naps.  She takes a morning nap and an afternoon nap and we do things in between.  If there is something I need to do while she is napping, I have DH stay home with her (if it's a weekend), otherwise I catch up on things around the house. 

    I have a few friends with LO's around the same age as DD and we do playgroups and you can always tell the ones that have "messed" with their child's nap because they are cranky, throwing tantrums and inevitably have to be taken home early because they've reached their limit.  I can very proudly say that DD has never had a meltdown in a store, at a playgroup, in a resturant, etc. just because of the fact that I do no mess with her schedule.

    Just about every book I've read on child development says that children today do not get the recommended amount of sleep and it can interfere with their development.  I think it is a bit selfish of parents to drag their kids all around town during their nap time.  I always feel so bad for the toddlers at the mall that are passed out in their stroller because their parents can't work around their naps.  It is just something that I feel very strongly about.

    I couldn't agree more with you!  I'm VERY strict when it comes to her sleep.  I've even missed holiday dinner.  Its what works best for me & my child and its only for a few yrs.  Not everyone understands my feelings on this (my family) but its my choice. 

  • If Mia doesn't get her nap when she's supposed to, she's a bear at night. 

     

    Does that mean we don't "bend the rules" sometimes?  No.  If we need to, we'll either put off her nap and go out so she can sleep on the way home, or if we are going to DH's moms (an hour away), we'll leave right after lunch at naptime and she will sleep on the way down.

     

    She does, however, get a longer, better nap when she sleeps in her crib, and I enjoy my "me" time, so I usually stay home.  It's not like we can't go out other times during the day. 

  • J goes to daycare, so he's not always guaranteed a great nap, because not all of the toddlers are so cooperative.  That said, if he doesn't get a good nap, he is SO grouchy at night, that dinnertime is usually a disaster and he winds up in bed earlier than his normal bedtime.

    I work full time, so I can't mandate the naps he has while at school, however on weekends, I can, and we plan alot of events around naptime.  Obviously, somethings are unavoidable, but when I take J shopping, or running errands, they go a lot smoother when he is well rested.

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    imagejacksjerseygirl:

    Sleep, routine and schedule were always important to us.

    We made it a priority and I feel that it has paid off (this is the part where you go blah blah blah stfu haha - he is a very happy child (rarely cries/fusses), he handles change and new situations well, he sleeps 11-12 hrs/night, he takes a 1.5 hr nap, the last time we were 'summoned' to his room during the night was 6 months old, he is advanced verbally, speaking in sentences - he is also very flexible with his sleep without melt down if we do have to alter things due to travel, etc. 

    Maybe it's just him/genetics/personality and has nothing to do with what we did with his sleep schedule/routine but research indicates otherwise.

    Personally, I'm a bit offended at the reference to 'nazi' and I also equally don't get parents who just fly by the seat of their pants with something as important as their child's sleep. I DO get your situation you have very little time with your child, perhaps, and so you don't want to have to 'lose' time with them or on running errands. It's just not my style.  We each choose our own path and hope that it is the right decision for our child/family.

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    All of this exactly! Finally somebody else was offended by 'nazi'. I thought I was being oversensitive for a second.  

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  • Gavin is a crap napper (until recently he was anyway), so if I tried to structure my life around his naps I would never.leave.the.house.  Some days he has 45 mins to nap in the car and if he doesn't do it then it's just not happening. NBD as far as I'm concerned.
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    I've just always put C's napping as a priority. She's never been great at napping anywhere besides her crib. It's pretty easy to get all my my errands/play dates/classes done in the morning and then she goes down for a nap between 1:00-1:30. If there are things to do afterwards, we go do those once she is up.

    This is us EXACTLY..ive learned over time to work around jacks nap schedule and it makes for a much btter day for all of us. If he doesnt sleep well during the days evenings are horrible and he usuallyt sleeps ptretty poorly overnight

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  • Our lives are infinitely easier thanks to a pretty strict nap schedule. Call me a "nap Nazi", but it's what works for us.

    Being a SAHM, I love the fact that my day is predictable -- errands in the morning, home for lunch and nap (at noon), and play in the afternoon. All of our friends that have kids have similar schedules, so playdates are never planned during mid-afternoon.

    It took many, many, many months to get to a point where DS napped well. Until 9 or 10 months, he was a 35 minute napper, no more. Now that he naps beautifully for 2-3 hours, I'm NOT about to mess that up for my own convenience. If there's a special event like a birthday party, we'll shift things around...but errands and lunches with friends just aren't going to happen between the hours of 12 and 3.

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  • Is it really that hard to plan for a nap at home on a Saturday and Sunday at a set time?

    Lots of us work full time and having young kids that need naps is just part of the day you need to acknowledge and allow for.

    If you don't want to nap or schedule naps with your child, fine, but calling parents that do NAZIS makes you sound pretty self righteous.

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  • imageDoylesa:

    Wow, I am just amazed by all the mom's that are so determined to have their kids nap at a certain time! I'm not criticizing, I just can't relate.

    I work full time and just cannot possibly imagine having to block out a set couple hours of each day on my days off as times where we couldn't do anything or be anywhere except for home. I would never be able to get anything done or make plans with friends, playdates, errands, etc.

    i totally sympathize w/ you, i don't get nap/bedtime nazis either. as a working mom too, i'm pretty loose w/ dd's schedule and she thankfully is an awesome napper who will nap anywhere !  she adapted us to dc's nap schedule 1-3p for naps so i can plan some things around it but when you've got TWO days during the week w/ her all day, you want to maximize your time w/ her so if she naps later than she usually does b/c you're out at the playground - so be it.

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    imageElisa312:
    imagejacksjerseygirl:

    Sleep, routine and schedule were always important to us.

    We made it a priority and I feel that it has paid off (this is the part where you go blah blah blah stfu haha - he is a very happy child (rarely cries/fusses), he handles change and new situations well, he sleeps 11-12 hrs/night, he takes a 1.5 hr nap, the last time we were 'summoned' to his room during the night was 6 months old, he is advanced verbally, speaking in sentences - he is also very flexible with his sleep without melt down if we do have to alter things due to travel, etc. 

    Maybe it's just him/genetics/personality and has nothing to do with what we did with his sleep schedule/routine but research indicates otherwise.

    Personally, I'm a bit offended at the reference to 'nazi' and I also equally don't get parents who just fly by the seat of their pants with something as important as their child's sleep. I DO get your situation you have very little time with your child, perhaps, and so you don't want to have to 'lose' time with them or on running errands. It's just not my style.  We each choose our own path and hope that it is the right decision for our child/family.

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    All of this exactly! Finally somebody else was offended by 'nazi'. I thought I was being oversensitive for a second.  

    jacksjerseygirl - well said.  I always cringe when I read about how many people don't respect their child's need to sleep.  After doing all the reading I did about infant and child sleep (and how detrimental lack of or inconsistent sleep is to their behavioral and mental development) I could never do anything else. 

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  • I am sleep "obsessed" with my DD. Totally. For good reason though. After suffering through her first 3 months of life with horrible reflux and no naps, I knew things had to change. I did a complete sleep re-training which worked wonders. Now, at 16ish months, DD takes one nap per day, averaging 2-3 hours. Sure, there are times when she wouldn't nap (teething) and it showed. But for the most part, she is the most pleasant, happy, content baby. She is always rested and up for running errands before and after her nap. I completely work around her nap and bedtime schedule. It's my job to teach her how important sleep and rest is. Don't you agree? Also, I can get so much stuff done around the house during those 3 hours naps, and also DH and I get snuggle time later after DD goes to bed (and sleeps 12 hours!)
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    I'm with you.  I've just found that going with the flow is best for my son, which is so foreign to me since I tend to be more of an A-type person.  He just does so much better when we're more spontaneous, and tends to get cranky when we're on a schedule doing the same thing over and over.  It's weird; I've become chill as a parent! 

     **Disclaimer: I do realize that every kid is different, so I may be thrown for a loop with this next kiddo!  

    This.  It was tough at first, but we try to be flexible.  He naps at the same time during the week at daycare, but then on weekends he naps anywhere from 1-2 hours and anywhere between 11 am and 4 pm....as long as he gets something at least an hour sometime mid-day whether it be at home or in the car we're fine and he's a happy toddler.  I can't imagine being tied to such a strict schedule, but everything I've read about toddlers say they thrive on predictable routines so more power to the parents who are willing to work around strict naptimes.

  • I didn't read any of the replies but just wanted to say you're not selfish, you're fortunate to have a kid who obviously can nap in a flexible way!!!! (just remember if you decide to have any more, they might not all be such good/easy sleepers)
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