Beta #4=Not Good

patchen30 · March 2011

9005 on 5w4d up from 4261 at 5w1d. Doubling time of 67 hours. The nurse left me this really doomsday message b/c it didn't meet their 66% increase every 2 days rule. We just got to FL for a 5 day vacation. How am I supposed to enjoy? I won't know anything else until my scan next Thurs. What do you think??

SLPMel · March 2011

Oh hun, I am so sorry! It is definitely not over by any means. They have continued to go up-and she is probably thinking worst case scenario. Lots of Thought and Prayers coming your way. Great way to start a vacation!!! Sad

lmc5004 · March 2011

72 hours for less is what most drs say. Maybe you are just worried so you misinterpreted her as being super downer about it. Number sounds fine to me, my dr didnt do betas that long for this exact reason.

Just relax.... You are going to do more hurt than good by obsessing and over-worrying like this.

steveandkim2 · March 2011

I'm sorry sweetie... hopefully all is still OK! My RE still told me that they're going to draw labs, but that once we start u/s , the u/s tells more than betas b/c doubling times change for everyone and start to slow down after 1200 and 4000..I may ask them to stop giving me the numbers so I have less to obsess about.

Try and enjoy your time away (I know easier said than done)

ams8099 · March 2011

Your number will start to slow down after a while. You're still increasing, which is a good sign.((hugs))

lmc5004 · March 2011

not to mention that we all just reassured you that they slow at some point and that is normal.

Itmamma · March 2011

MY doubling time eas longer at 3 or 4 weeks

vanessagorc · March 2011

Huge hugs Patchen!

My old clinc told me once betas reach 5000, they slow in doubling. Even 96 hrs was an acceptable double time when HCG gets that high.

I was also in FLA when i was in beta hell, and it's hard. But nothing u can do will change the outcome of ur pregnancy. So try to enjoy some time with ur DH. I know, it;s so hard.

kimarino13 · March 2011

ams8099:
Your number will start to slow down after a while. You're still increasing, which is a good sign.((hugs))

This.

JenCW · March 2011

Hopefully the nurse was just being matter of fact which may have come off as doomsday. My RE's office would have considered that a perfectly acceptable rise especially at the stage that you are. That with your u/s this morning seems as if things are still OK.

Though it doesn't make it easier to have yet another wait until the next u/s, your progress will not be affected by allowing yourself to have a great time on your vacation. Try to enjoy the days with your DH, and hold the next round of worry until next week.

Romeo&Denise · March 2011

My RE only did 2 betas and that drove me bonkers, but she also told me that beta doubling starts to slow after a certain period. Your numbers are still high, so please try to enjoy your vacay (easier said than done I know). Sending you lots of T&Ps for a great u/s next week.

patchen30 · March 2011

I do think the nurse was a little overly doomsday and before she made that phone call I wish she had talked to the Dr. She actually said "I'm not sure how this is going to go" and "with these levels it's questionable".

bluebabka · March 2011

I think your ultrasound said more than your beta. Try not to worry. Really important to relax right now. And BTW I don't think your Beta is bad!

bluebabka · March 2011

Patchen I just had to look - I had a beta yesterday at 5w 2days because I was spotting and it's only 7,000 - My RE's office was very happy with that number. So there you go...You're fine!!!!

ohiostategal · March 2011

I think your numbers sound good. Beta's slow down when they get higher and yours are still doing fine. Also I agree with other pps that your u/s is more important at this point. Try to enjoy your vacation though I know that is easier said than done.

JM1977 · March 2011

Hugs! Hope you can enjoy your vacation and come back to good news next week.

jenber77 · March 2011

Lurking from SAIF...

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patchen30:
I also asked about my betas and he said he doesn't think I can analyze those into anything meaningful, and that they are supposed to slow down. They took more bloods today to check HCG/P4/E2.

Listen to your RE and not the nurse. Plus, you're still doubling within 72 hours, which is great! I really, truly think your numbers sound fine. Hang in there! Try to enjoy your time in Florida.

Echloe · March 2011

Hang in there. Your little one showed up on the ultrasound. Try to keep that image in your head to help you not worry.

whispergrrl · March 2011

I hear a lot of nurses being all doomsday for people....that sucks! Most of the cases I've heard like that (where the nurse is a jerk), everything ends up fine. I agree with previous posters...I don't think you have anything to worry about with your betas. I think you had a fine rise, and your betas are just slowing down (like they are supposed to).

Here is how my betas went (doubling times listed):

182 - 697 = 37.17 hours

697 - 3075 = 44.83

3075 - 8680 = 48.09

8680 - 20710 = 76.52

Try to enjoy your vacation. *hugs*

Edited to add - This is when my betas were done, also.

1 - 4w

2 - 4w3d

3 - 5w

4 - 5w3d

5 - 6w

katerena · March 2011

Sweetie, your nurse is nuts.

That is a GREAT beta. That is a PERFECT rise. When you get to the 6w mark they are supposed to double every 3-4 days, it slows down.

Honestly, at the stage of pregnancy that you are at, betas are not as reliable as ultrasound. You've had a great ultrasound that showed a sac and fetal pole exactly as it should be.

I know it's scary but you really need to focus on that. You are pregnant!!!!

etoyama · March 2011

That stupid nurse! I think you're fine! Really! Try to relax and enjoy your vacay, hon.

Jessie*J · March 2011

I agree with the others - your beta is still within a great range. Try to hang in there and enjoy the few days you have on vacation! GL hon!

Stuckinthemiddle · March 2011

Your beta doubling time is 66.7%. The new minimum standard that my RE office is now using is 53%. I am not exactly sure what the name of the article is, but it was published in the New England Journal of Medicine recently. 66% is an old standard, but your doubling time is still higher than that.

My first beta's doubling time was 70%. It then went up to 80%, and then back down to 77% before we were able to see a heart beat. At that point, the RE said that the beta's don't matter anymore, and I was released to an Ob.

I know that beta hell can be a horrible time, but honestly your first beta doubling time isn't that far off from mine, and you are beating the new minimum standard by a decent amount. Please try to relax and have a good vacation. When I was going through beta hell, I just kept telling myself that "Today I am pregnant, and I love my baby." I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Please keep us posted.

ladyprof · March 2011

It's less that 72 hours and as other pps have said, it's fine! I wouldn't worry about it too much or classify it as "not good." It's good! I had a similar slowdown that you can see in my blog.

kelfeen · March 2011

My RE didnt even take any after 16dpiui and it was 584... I am a week ahead of you and didnt have it drawn at my u/s either.

We are all trying to tell you to have a good time, it is out of your hands either way at this point, so there is no sense in fretting. Enjoy this moment. You will never have it back and you need happy vibes for you cutie little fetus growing in there!!

kthappy76 · March 2011

Oh dear, you are understandably nervous based on your past experience, but all four of your betas (and rises) for this pregnancy have been awesome. At some point you are going to have to realize that worrying isn't going to improve any outcome, but will just make you miserable. Can you call and talk to the RE or another nurse to help put your mind at ease? I assume you put everything into beta base, you are way above average. I don't think you have anything to worry about based on those #'s. Try to have fun and I hope you have a great u/s on St. Pattie's Day.

iluv2pekes · March 2011

I'm so sorry:( Here you are trying to enjoy a vacation and this happens. As everyone said, they are still getting higher and that is the most important thing. It seems some nurses have a tendency to be matter of fact and less emapthetic than others. My RE's office only did 2 Betas, I am so glad because that alone made me crazy!

I hope everything works out and you can enjoy your week.

Megg327 · March 2011

Please dont get too upset from that doubling time. I actually had a doubling time of 72 hours between beta 3 and 4 and then from 4 to 5 it shot up from 1500 to 10,000(and my progresterone was dropping while on supplements)...and now we are pregnant with TWINS! At the time the nurse told me they didn't know why my numbers were so weird and that we werent out of the woods until our first ultrasound...and now everything is okay....keep your head up!

DeputiesWife · March 2011

sending you lots of T&P.

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