I just read Missouri is preparing for an execution on Wednesday morning. So, I thought I'd throw the question out there... are you for or against the death penalty?
For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
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For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
This is a pretty interesting website. It give you all the statistics per state.
I'm against it. America is better than the internationl company we choose to keep by killing our own. I don't think that it's the government's place to say who lives & who dies.
ETA: I'm a native born Texan, grew up 40 minutes from where they execute people, and have lived my entire life in the South. (Texas, Louisiana, and Georgia) I was raised to be for it, but I've since formed my own opinion.
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For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
my only problem with that is the people that are actually innocent. I agree, so long as there is 0 doubt about the guilt. Like he was caught with the weapon standing over a body covered in blood kinda thing KWIM?
As whether I'm for or against. I used to be for, now I don't know.
This is me too. I honestly just don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, some crimes are so incredibly atrocious that I cannot imagine allowing the guilty party to live - and crimes against children really really really sway my opinion to being for it. On the other, as a Christian I have a difficult time with the "life for a life" mentality. But then again on the other hand, God never says he takes away the earthly consequences for our sins. So yeah. I just don't know.
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Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
my only problem with that is the people that are actually innocent. I agree, so long as there is 0 doubt about the guilt. Like he was caught with the weapon standing over a body covered in blood kinda thing KWIM?
Totally agree with you, good point!
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Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
It's more expensive to execute a prisone than it is to house him/her for life.
Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
It's more expensive to execute a prisone than it is to house him/her for life.
it wouldn't be if they didn't get a million appeals
For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
Florida does. I'm back and forth with the whole thing..I have seen so many shows on cases where people sat in jail for x amount of years, and later with newer technology were proven innocent. Then again, I've also read about cases where the jurors totally believed in their hearts that whoever on trial was guilty but couldn't convict them based on the evidence available.
Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
It's more expensive to execute a prisone than it is to house him/her for life.
it wouldn't be if they didn't get a million appeals
Ok, so you want to take away the right to appeal from prisoners who have been sentenced to die.
For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
my only problem with that is the people that are actually innocent. I agree, so long as there is 0 doubt about the guilt. Like he was caught with the weapon standing over a body covered in blood kinda thing KWIM?
Totally agree with you, good point!
Against - and that is why. Even if after a ton of appeals, what if the person is still innocent & there just isn't enough proof one way or another? Death is permanent.
I recently read a book by John Grisham (yes I realize it's totally fiction) about an innocent person executed even after the real killer confessed. I worry things like that can really happen.
Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
It's more expensive to execute a prisoner than it is to house him/her for life.
it wouldn't be if they didn't get a million appeals
Ok, so you want to take away the right to appeal from prisoners who have been sentenced to die.
You're a smart cookie.
I don't want to take away their right, but I do think it the amount of appeals allowed is a little ridiculous yes
I'm for it. And I love that Texas has an "express lane" for those violent criminals who are with out ANY doubt, we're talking at least 3 eye witnesses, DNA, caught on camera, etc, guilty and therefore less of a drain on the system, and tax dollars. I think our countries ban on Cruel and Unusual Punishment isn't fair to those victims whose assailants tortured them. I believe in the punishment fitting the crime. Then again I'm a bit Old Testament when it comes to an "Eye for and Eye". I'm working on being more New Testament, "Turning the other Cheek".
But from a legal stand point I think the Death Penalty is a necessary part of our justice system for those extremely violent offenders who if given the chance would never stop killing.
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you don't just automatically get an endless amount of appeals as it seems you think. An appeal has to be granted by a judge due to errors of law, procedure, fact etc. So if there is evidence to grant 80 appeals then that person should get 80 effin chances to fight for their right to not be executed or convicted of something they didn't do.
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I am for it also!
I'm for it. If you take someone's life it seems fitting that yours should be taken from you.
Against.
https://www.ksdk.com/news/article/242796/3/Missouri-prepares-for-first-execution-in-2-years
Hmm. I haven't heard about that one. I'm definitely for the death penalty though.
For it- except I am against the LONG time they sit on death row and get a million appeals. I say once the guilty verdict comes down- they die that day. While we are talking about his, what states still have the dealth penalty? Obvioulsy Missouri and Texas (if memory serves)
This is a pretty interesting website. It give you all the statistics per state.
https://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/state_by_state
Wait, what? You want to live in Texas because of the death penalty? I want to live in a state that kills people....uhhhhh.
As whether I'm for or against. I used to be for, now I don't know.
I'm for it.
my only problem with that is the people that are actually innocent. I agree, so long as there is 0 doubt about the guilt. Like he was caught with the weapon standing over a body covered in blood kinda thing KWIM?
This is me too. I honestly just don't know how I feel about it. On the one hand, some crimes are so incredibly atrocious that I cannot imagine allowing the guilty party to live - and crimes against children really really really sway my opinion to being for it. On the other, as a Christian I have a difficult time with the "life for a life" mentality. But then again on the other hand, God never says he takes away the earthly consequences for our sins. So yeah. I just don't know.
I'm 80% for it, 20% against it.
Not to mention I HATE that my tax dollars are being spent to house the guilty. It just seems like so rarely is a case so black and white where the offender has been 100% proven guilty- like pp said, standing over the body with the weapon and admiting to their guilt. I don't like the idea of someone's metaphoric blood on my hands if they are innocent.
Totally agree with you, good point!
It's more expensive to execute a prisone than it is to house him/her for life.
I'll bet a million dollars that all the death penalty supporters are also anti choice.
it wouldn't be if they didn't get a million appeals
Florida does. I'm back and forth with the whole thing..I have seen so many shows on cases where people sat in jail for x amount of years, and later with newer technology were proven innocent. Then again, I've also read about cases where the jurors totally believed in their hearts that whoever on trial was guilty but couldn't convict them based on the evidence available.
Ok, so you want to take away the right to appeal from prisoners who have been sentenced to die.
You're a smart cookie.
Against - and that is why. Even if after a ton of appeals, what if the person is still innocent & there just isn't enough proof one way or another? Death is permanent.
I recently read a book by John Grisham (yes I realize it's totally fiction) about an innocent person executed even after the real killer confessed. I worry things like that can really happen.
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I don't want to take away their right, but I do think it the amount of appeals allowed is a little ridiculous yes
I'm for it. And I love that Texas has an "express lane" for those violent criminals who are with out ANY doubt, we're talking at least 3 eye witnesses, DNA, caught on camera, etc, guilty and therefore less of a drain on the system, and tax dollars. I think our countries ban on Cruel and Unusual Punishment isn't fair to those victims whose assailants tortured them. I believe in the punishment fitting the crime. Then again I'm a bit Old Testament when it comes to an "Eye for and Eye". I'm working on being more New Testament, "Turning the other Cheek".
But from a legal stand point I think the Death Penalty is a necessary part of our justice system for those extremely violent offenders who if given the chance would never stop killing.
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You would lose this bet. I am pro-choice and I am for the death penalty. As are many of my friends and my DH.
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