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my hypocrisy on toys and gender

So, I mentioned below I have my eye on this mp3 player for M.  https://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=2620&e=musicplayer   They have one, right now, on Christmas clearance at Target for 40% off.  I didn't pick it up this weekend because the only one they have is the pink/purple one.  I'd prefer a gender neutral one but at this price I'm being crazy in passing it up. 

We picked out a doll and kitchen for M based on the idea of the gear being gender neutral for future LOs, as well as being team green so a lot of M's stuff was picked out to be passed along to either a boy or girl.  I think on some level I'm so used to picking out gender neutral colors that picking out girly colors (for either a boy or girl) seems weird.  I think I need to go one step further and work on the idea that colors can be gender neutral instead of the idea that there are gender neutral colors. 

We're headed back to Target today so if it's still there maybe I'll bite the bullet.
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Re: my hypocrisy on toys and gender

  • I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.
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  • imageanna7602:
    I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.

     

    How long has it been since you were in a professional environment in this country?Pink dress shirts on men are pretty common nowadays.

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    imageanna7602:
    I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.

     

    How long has it been since you were in a professional environment in this country?Pink dress shirts on men are pretty common nowadays.

    A long time. I haven't had to wear a suit to work since 2002 (or even business casual) and I've been working at home since 2007. But, FWIW, the only color dress shirts that are considered "professional" at DH's firm are white and blue. Even yellow gets a side-eye.

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  • We're in a similar situation but I went ahead and bought the pink things (a bed rail and the busy ball popper). MIL is either nutty or a visionary because she made DH collect rainbows & made BIL collect unicorns. DH has no more rainbow remnants and BIL has what he calls "the largest box of broken unicorns this side of Camelot". LOL
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  • imageanna7602:
    I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.

     I think this is part of the issue.  I don't think I've owned anything pink for at least 5 years, and nothing pastel pink for probably 15+.  

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  • imageanna7602:
    I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.

     I think this is part of the issue.  I don't think I've owned anything pink for at least 5 years, and nothing pastel pink for probably 15+.    It's too bad because the darker pinks work really well w/my skin tone when my mom buys them for me, but they're definitely something I never pick out myself.

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  • heres a novel idea, dont treat your kid like a go-between for all the cr@p you want to give your next kids, just because you are too damn cheap to buy them something that belongs to them and only them.

    way to set up your kid for resentment and failure.

    i dont think one pink toy is going to send a boy into a flaming identity crisis

  • See, I'm the opposite. DD has a ton of pink stuff because it tends to be MY favorite color (clothes wise at least).

    She has a ton of gender specific toys as well. I bought her bumper pads to fit a boy or girl, and try to buy the "big" toys to do that as well... but sometimes the pink is just cheaper. Like our highchairs (that I HATE for other reasons and are soon selling) are pink because they were $30 cheaper than a gender neutral.  Same with her carseat. It's hot pink. But I scored a brand new Britax Boulevard for $190... but only the pink one was on sale. Not a hard choice for me since I am dirt poor.

    All my carriers are GN... but I don't think that I'd have a problem buying a yellow and orange (my least favorite colors) MP3 player for DD if it was ridiculously cheap! Hopefully you can save some money and bite the bullet!

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    imageImawesome:

    imageanna7602:
    I really dislike pink. I once lived in a country in which it was perfectly acceptable for men to wear pink dress shirts in a professional environment and I still don't like pink, whether it's associated with grown men in an office or little American girls in tutus. It's just not a color I can embrace.

     

    How long has it been since you were in a professional environment in this country?Pink dress shirts on men are pretty common nowadays.

    A long time. I haven't had to wear a suit to work since 2002 (or even business casual) and I've been working at home since 2007. But, FWIW, the only color dress shirts that are considered "professional" at DH's firm are white and blue. Even yellow gets a side-eye.

    Well in uber professional stodgy places white and blue is still the norm but even in i-banks and management consulting firms pink and yellow are ok and I worked in conservative Chicago. It's neither here nor there though ;)

  • i used to want gender neutral stuff and i still like the "big" stuff to be gender neutral (high chair, car seat, etc) but i can't help it-- i'm loving the pink on lilly. i don't even like pink that much but she looks so pretty in it. we got a lot of pink stuff from friends and fam, and although i was resistent at first i am now embracing it.

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    ... but sometimes the pink is just cheaper.

    All my carriers are GN... but I don't think that I'd have a problem buying a yellow and orange (my least favorite colors) MP3 player for DD if it was ridiculously cheap! Hopefully you can save some money and bite the bullet!

    LOL, yeah, this definitely isn't the first time I've seen the pink version of something be way cheaper than the GN/boy version or for there to be lots of the pink version left while they are sold out of the other version.  We almost got a pink Britax for that reason but found a red/black for the same price on a different site. 

    They didn't have any mp3 players left this afternoon :-(   I think part of my hesitation is imagining that he would use the toy for 5-6 years and into the "other kids are cruel about boy/girl issues" teasing phase.  I'd fully support M if he wanted to pick out a pink toy but would hate to put him in that teasing situation if that's not what he wanted, KWIM?   The most ridiculous part of it all is probably imagining that any technology won't be obsolete in 5 years Smile

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  • I do the exact same thing, sad to say. DS has a couple dolls, but they are mostly dressed neutrally. And I feel weird that he has more than one doll. We bought him one when he was a baby, and then we bought him another "dress me" doll so he could work on his zipping, buttoning, etc. Obviously if I had a daughter she could have a limitless number of dolls and I wouldn't think anything of it, but since he's a boy it feels weird that he has more than one. I also have old Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, and he likes those too, so really he has four. . .

    I also want to buy him some other toys, but I don't because they are all hot pink. If I had a daughter, she would have a hot pink play microwave, mixer, baby stroller (ds LOVES the baby stroller at the play group), iron, etc, etc. I have no problem getting him typically "girly" toys like that, because men cook and take care of babies too. However, for some reason I just CANNOT bite the bullet and buy him pink appliances. I just can't lol.

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  • Really, gender neutral typically means "boy" colors. Almost any color is gender neutral as long as its not pink or purple. It is just generally more acceptable for girls to "act like boys" than the other way around.

    FWIW, DS's favorite toy ever is a pink/purple/orange lawn mower.

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