Annoying kids need to be spanked

mommydale · October 2010

spursgirl10:
MegMD:

Your poor poor children.

Nothing like a little violence to keep your kids in line.

Jesus! I didn't say give the kid a bloody lip! LOL....

P.S. My kid is awesome...11 yrs old, good grades, good kid. He actually just got picked yesterday (no joke) to be part of a support group for kids that are bullied and how to stop bullying....AND the funny thing is he did get spanked growing up.....

Spurs, tell him congrats! That is a great thing to be involved with!! Definitely something to be very proud of!

MrsTotty · October 2010

sarrahs:
MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
AACraven85:

Here is something puzzling to me. When some people's children act up they spank them, but yet if the child hits they get in trouble. How is this not confusing?

I was never confused, and I was spanked as a child.
I'm sorry, but you can't honestly tell me you remember what confused you, and what didn't at age 2. PLEASE.
Actually, I have a pretty great memory - and many of them start at age 2. I didn't "spank" kids to get my way because that's what my mom and dad did. I understood that if I got out of line (at any age), I might get spanked - and that was enough to keep me in line. Once I got to age 8 - spanking stopped working, and that's when my parents started grounding me instead.
Also, I know many families who effectively spank their young children (2 and up), and the kids don't go around spanking other people. In fact, they're some of the most well behaved and respectful 2 and 3 year olds I've ever met.
We started slapping my son's hand when he was 14 months old to teach him what not to touch when telling him or showing him didn't work. Surprise! That was the method that worked - he doesn't touch electrical outlets or the TV or anythign that he knows he's not supposed to. We don't have to child proof our house because this has been an affective form of teaching my son to stay away from certain things. He's never tried to hit me or anyone else either.

I'm sorry, but I call BULLSHIIT on you absolutely remembering how you weren't confused about specific things when you were 2 years old.

And guess what? We started using timeout and redirection at around 12 months too, and my kid doesn't touch things he's not supposed to. Oh! And I didn't have to hit him! Points for me!

(You see? I can be judgey and defensive about my parenting techniques too!)

sarrahs · October 2010

MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
AACraven85:

Here is something puzzling to me. When some people's children act up they spank them, but yet if the child hits they get in trouble. How is this not confusing?

I was never confused, and I was spanked as a child.

I'm sorry, but you can't honestly tell me you remember what confused you, and what didn't at age 2. PLEASE.

Actually, I have a pretty great memory - and many of them start at age 2. I didn't "spank" kids to get my way because that's what my mom and dad did. I understood that if I got out of line (at any age), I might get spanked - and that was enough to keep me in line. Once I got to age 8 - spanking stopped working, and that's when my parents started grounding me instead.

Also, I know many families who effectively spank their young children (2 and up), and the kids don't go around spanking other people. In fact, they're some of the most well behaved and respectful 2 and 3 year olds I've ever met.

We started slapping my son's hand when he was 14 months old to teach him what not to touch when telling him or showing him didn't work. Surprise! That was the method that worked - he doesn't touch electrical outlets or the TV or anythign that he knows he's not supposed to. We don't have to child proof our house because this has been an affective form of teaching my son to stay away from certain things. He's never tried to hit me or anyone else either.

I'm sorry, but I call BULLSHIIT on you absolutely remembering how you weren't confused about specific things when you were 2 years old.

And guess what? We started using timeout and redirection at around 12 months too, and my kid doesn't touch things he's not supposed to. Oh! And I didn't have to hit him! Points for me!

(You see? I can be judgey and defensive about my parenting techniques too!)

Okay - you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I am not judging you for not spanking your kid - I think it's great that you've found an effective method of disciplining your own child. I'm sorry that I've gotten under your skin. I do get the feeling that you're judging me and other parents who have chosen spanking as an effective method in their own homes, however.

GRISMINO · October 2010

MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
AACraven85:

Here is something puzzling to me. When some people's children act up they spank them, but yet if the child hits they get in trouble. How is this not confusing?

I was never confused, and I was spanked as a child.
I'm sorry, but you can't honestly tell me you remember what confused you, and what didn't at age 2. PLEASE.
Actually, I have a pretty great memory - and many of them start at age 2. I didn't "spank" kids to get my way because that's what my mom and dad did. I understood that if I got out of line (at any age), I might get spanked - and that was enough to keep me in line. Once I got to age 8 - spanking stopped working, and that's when my parents started grounding me instead.
Also, I know many families who effectively spank their young children (2 and up), and the kids don't go around spanking other people. In fact, they're some of the most well behaved and respectful 2 and 3 year olds I've ever met.
We started slapping my son's hand when he was 14 months old to teach him what not to touch when telling him or showing him didn't work. Surprise! That was the method that worked - he doesn't touch electrical outlets or the TV or anythign that he knows he's not supposed to. We don't have to child proof our house because this has been an affective form of teaching my son to stay away from certain things. He's never tried to hit me or anyone else either.
I'm sorry, but I call BULLSHIIT on you absolutely remembering how you weren't confused about specific things when you were 2 years old.
And guess what? We started using timeout and redirection at around 12 months too, and my kid doesn't touch things he's not supposed to. Oh! And I didn't have to hit him! Points for me!
(You see? I can be judgey and defensive about my parenting techniques too!)

MrsTotty · October 2010

sarrahs:
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Okay - you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I am not judging you for not spanking your kid - I think it's great that you've found an effective method of disciplining your own child. I'm sorry that I've gotten under your skin. I do get the feeling that you're judging me and other parents who have chosen spanking as an effective method in their own homes, however.

I'm not judging you for spanking your kid. I was spanked as kid and I turned out just fine. I'm judging you for acting like spanking is the only form of discipline that is effective ... since it worked for your child. And that's how you came off in your previous post.

And I'm still calling bullshiit on you remembering your 'non confusion' at 2 years old. Come on.

sarrahs · October 2010

MrsTotty:
sarrahs:
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Okay - you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. I am not judging you for not spanking your kid - I think it's great that you've found an effective method of disciplining your own child. I'm sorry that I've gotten under your skin. I do get the feeling that you're judging me and other parents who have chosen spanking as an effective method in their own homes, however.

I'm not judging you for spanking your kid. I was spanked as kid and I turned out just fine. I'm judging you for acting like spanking is the only form of discipline that is effective ... since it worked for your child. And that's how you came off in your previous post.

And I'm still calling bullshiit on you remembering your 'non confusion' at 2 years old. Come on.

I definitely didn't mean to come off sounding like spanking is the only form of discipline. I know that we'll use other methods besides spanking - but I feel like there is a lot of judgment on parents who do spank their children. I love my son and want the best for him - I want him to understand the benefits of obedience - and it's my job to make sure that I am parenting him in the best manner that works for him.

I don't remember everything from 2 years old (but I do have a lot of memories from that age that surprise my parents). My main point is that I do remember that I didn't hit other kids as a result of being spanked. I was never confused abotu that point. My mom would back up that memory as well.

All this said, I completely respect your opinion - and didn't mean for this to undermine anyone's belief on disciplinary methods. As many people have said - to each his own.

anna7602 · October 2010

I recommend you see a therapist to deal with your anger. I mean this in a very non-snarky way. If you have a hard time keeping your cool, therapy really could help.

GRISMINO · October 2010

anna7602:
I recommend you see a therapist to deal with your anger. I mean this in a very non-snarky way. If you have a hard time keeping your cool, therapy really could help.

Sheas · October 2010

GRISMINO:
What makes you think spanking was the solution to making that child behave? I totally give props to that lady for being so patient but I do think maybe she should've handled things differently. I don't know you and I don't want to judge but for what I read it sounds like you can get to a point of being abusive, which is something I would worry about.

A little excessive, don't ya think?

I can tell you that I am one of the most patient people in the world, to the point of being annoying (DH hates how nice and patient I am most of the time). That being said, I can tell you that there have been plenty of times that I have had my blood boiling over children/adults alike. Just because OP's blood was boiling and she was annoyed, doesn't mean she has anger problems. It is easy to get annoyed with people, esp on an airplane. Did she say that she wanted to kill the child who was misbehaving? NO! She is stating that she wishes the mother would have made a better attempt at making the flight better for others around, herself included. If that means spanking the child, then so be it. She is not asking the lady to beat her child.

andrea922 · October 2010

Sheas:

A little excessive, don't ya think?

I can tell you that I am one of the most patient people in the world, to the point of being annoying (DH hates how nice and patient I am most of the time). That being said, I can tell you that there have been plenty of times that I have had my blood boiling over children/adults alike. Just because OP's blood was boiling and she was annoyed, doesn't mean she has anger problems. It is easy to get annoyed with people, esp on an airplane. Did she say that she wanted to kill the child who was misbehaving? NO! She is stating that she wishes the mother would have made a better attempt at making the flight better for others around, herself included. If that means spanking the child, then so be it. She is not asking the lady to beat her child.

The next time a person sits next to me on a plane and spills over into my seat I will be sure to ask their spouse or whoever is with them to spank them. Or the next time I fly and someone is smelly I will make sure they get spanked. I mean, that will make the flight better for everyone around them right?

And actually for some people they do equate spanking as beating. Some people don't agree with hitting their child, with any measure of force, as a way to teach or to discipline. I don't know why this concept is hard to grasp.

finally2006 · October 2010

Grab your husbands, grab your children, Ever'body gonna get spanked!

Sheas · October 2010

andrea922:
Sheas:

A little excessive, don't ya think?

I can tell you that I am one of the most patient people in the world, to the point of being annoying (DH hates how nice and patient I am most of the time). That being said, I can tell you that there have been plenty of times that I have had my blood boiling over children/adults alike. Just because OP's blood was boiling and she was annoyed, doesn't mean she has anger problems. It is easy to get annoyed with people, esp on an airplane. Did she say that she wanted to kill the child who was misbehaving? NO! She is stating that she wishes the mother would have made a better attempt at making the flight better for others around, herself included. If that means spanking the child, then so be it. She is not asking the lady to beat her child.

I don't know why this concept is hard to grasp.

Right. I don't understand why it is so hard to grasp the concept that some parents do use spanking as a form of discipline. Spanking has been used as a form of discipline for a while now. She is allowed to think it is ok to spank a child, just as you are allowed to think it is not. Opinions. None of them are wrong.

andrea922 · October 2010

Sheas:
andrea922:
Sheas:

A little excessive, don't ya think?

I can tell you that I am one of the most patient people in the world, to the point of being annoying (DH hates how nice and patient I am most of the time). That being said, I can tell you that there have been plenty of times that I have had my blood boiling over children/adults alike. Just because OP's blood was boiling and she was annoyed, doesn't mean she has anger problems. It is easy to get annoyed with people, esp on an airplane. Did she say that she wanted to kill the child who was misbehaving? NO! She is stating that she wishes the mother would have made a better attempt at making the flight better for others around, herself included. If that means spanking the child, then so be it. She is not asking the lady to beat her child.

I don't know why this concept is hard to grasp.

Right. I don't understand why it is so hard to grasp the concept that some parents do use spanking as a form of discipline. Spanking has been used as a form of discipline for a while now. She is allowed to think it is ok to spank a child, just as you are allowed to think it is not. Opinions. None of them are wrong.

I think it is wrong to judge a mom, on a plane, with a cranky 2 year old, for not spanking her child. Spank your own kids, I don't care. But don't assume everyone else should too.

karrizma · October 2010

andrea922:
Sheas:
andrea922:
Sheas:

A little excessive, don't ya think?

I can tell you that I am one of the most patient people in the world, to the point of being annoying (DH hates how nice and patient I am most of the time). That being said, I can tell you that there have been plenty of times that I have had my blood boiling over children/adults alike. Just because OP's blood was boiling and she was annoyed, doesn't mean she has anger problems. It is easy to get annoyed with people, esp on an airplane. Did she say that she wanted to kill the child who was misbehaving? NO! She is stating that she wishes the mother would have made a better attempt at making the flight better for others around, herself included. If that means spanking the child, then so be it. She is not asking the lady to beat her child.

I don't know why this concept is hard to grasp.

Right. I don't understand why it is so hard to grasp the concept that some parents do use spanking as a form of discipline. Spanking has been used as a form of discipline for a while now. She is allowed to think it is ok to spank a child, just as you are allowed to think it is not. Opinions. None of them are wrong.
I think it is wrong to judge a mom, on a plane, with a cranky 2 year old, for not spanking her child. Spank your own kids, I don't care. But don't assume everyone else should too.

After reading this whole thread I don't really think she was judging this mom for not spanking, I think it had more to do with the apparent lack of ANY effective discipline. Yes, had it been her kid, she probably would have spanked because maybe that's what works for her family. What I'm really getting from her posts though is that she was frustrated that this mom wasn't really disciplining her child at all (instead she was giving him candy, seriously wtf?). I would have judged this woman completely for not effectively disciplining (or entertaining her child even)...and I probably would have asked to be moved if there was an available seat.

TiffanyTheMom · October 2010

Personally, I believe in spanking, but it's a last resort. If my kids are doing something they've never done before and it's naughty, I let them know. The next time, they get a warning. The next time, they get a swat to the butt. It's extremely effective and they're more scared of being punished, and therefore behave, rather than being physically harmed.

Either way- when I have to fly (alone or with DH, doesn't make a difference because he always sleeps leaving me to parent alone) if my kids start getting restless and the books/snacks/coloring books I brought aren't cutting it anymore, I start walking them around to see out windows, use the bathroom, go back to the stewardesses' area to stretch, etc. Discipline isn't always necessary- I believe most times, distraction is best (especially in an airplane/airport), but there are times when discipline of ANY sort is just unavoidable. It's a teaching method.

cajuncutie0169 · October 2010

sooo....who's going to spank your annoying ass?

utgirl2 · October 2010

I don't have a problem raising my voice to my child or the occasional spank, but I would never do those things in a public place. Why would i yell and have everyone turn to look at me and draw more attention to the situation. Why would I spank my child in public, only to have someone yell at me about how spanking is wrong. There is a time and a place, and I certainly wouldn't do it in public. I would have done the exact same thing as this mother you were sitting by.

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