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Would you be pissed? (daycare)

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LO has reflux.  Therefore, she gets rice cereal in her bottle to thicken it. 

She has been at daycare for about 4 weeks now.  They provide formula and the rice cereal for "free" - meaning it's not extra (which is really rare!), so they are in control of making her bottles.  I gave them instructions to give her 4oz and 1 tbsp of rice cereal in the bottle.  I provided a size up in the nipples so that the opening is large enough for the thicker formula at her age.  So anyway, with the reflux she spits up A TON.  They say something about it daily.  Well at the beginning of last week they decided to feed her 2-3oz at each feeding to see if feeding her less would make her spit up less, without asking me.  I found out when I looked at her daily sheet and asked why she had ate less that day.  Whatever, I can get over it.  But then last Friday I came to pick her up and they said "She spit up less today!" and I said "Why?" and they said that they had been making 4oz bottles with TWO tablespoons of rice cereal - which obviously made it super thick.  First of all, why would they alter her diet before asking me?  Second of all, this is too thick - she could choke on the spit up.  Third of all (and this is what I'm most pissed about), I know that that thick of formula could not flow through the nipples I provided.  So I asked, "It went through the nipples ok?" and she said "Oh yea, it was fine".  I KNOW this is impossible, so I say "Really?? That doesn't make sense" and she finally goes, "Oh...well...we actually put a thumbtack and made the opening wider".  WTF.  I didn't even know what to say, so I left.  So I get home and look at the all my bottle nipples.....they are ALL CUT!!!!!!!!!  Every single one of them are CUT!  This has explained why I had been feeding her the past few days before that and she was gulping and choking and I couldn't figure out why.  Well now I know it was because the holes were HUGE and she was getting it too fast.  I kept checking it make sure they were the right level, I was just confused.  Now it makes sense.....it was flowing too fast because THEY CUT ALL OF THEM.

DH thought "they were just trying to help her reflux" and I am pissed.  Your thoughts?

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  • I just re-read that and realized I said I was "most" pissed about the nipples, which isn't the case - I'm most pissed that they are deciding what's right for her without asking ME.  Because I am the mother and I get to decide, NOT them.
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  • I would be soooooooooooooooooo pissed!!!!!!!! That's crazy. I would speak to the director and ask them NOT to do anything without running it by you first. Is it really that hard for them to pick up the phone? Ahh!!
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  • Yes I'd be livid.  They are not the parent.  They are majorly overstepping their bounds as far as I'd be concerned.  They should run each & every thing by you before doing it.  They are probably just trying to make their own lives easier.  See what your pedi thinks about the changes.

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  • Yes.  I would be livid!
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  • they thought they were helping and doing what was best for your LO.  Try and not get any more upset and talk to them that it was not ok.  Get some new nipples and let them know they are to continue on your feeding schedule. Remind them that with AR babies and even babies without AR still spit up, but what you are doing is just to make it less painful. 

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  • They absolutely should have been discussing this with you.  They have no right to be making decisions like this for your LO.  If they felt trying smaller servings might help they should have discussed this with you prior to experimenting.  I would be particularly pissed that they added more cereal.  I didn't notice your ticker but since we are on 3-6 I assume you LO is under 6 months.  There is a reason you were only giving 1 tbsp of cereal...her gut may not be ready for the 2 tbsp.  It also sounds like they were trying to be secretive about it all. Personally I would be looking for a new dc.  If you want to stay put I would talk to manager or owner and explain that no decisions like this are to be made on your behalf ever.  And if this happens again you will be taking you child out immediately.

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  • Oh, I'd be furious!!!  Relfux babies spit up A LOT!  YOu were taking appropriate, doctor recommended measures to reduce the spit up safely.  They sound like they are doing whatever will reduce the spit-up without regards to safety.  I'd be having a really frank discussion with them ASAP.
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  • I will start by saying...I am SUPER mellow.  This right here...this would cause me to make ears burn.  I would be livid!  A thumbtack.....could have rust on it....OMG!  non sterilized.....thumbtack.  I would be asking to speak with the director IMMEDIATELY!
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  • It would also bother me a lot that they didn't even proactively tell you the same day.  You had to fish for info.  That's not ok.  What if a choice they made created a negetive situation for your LO?

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  • omg i would blow a mind gasket.

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  • Pissed wouldn't even begin to cover it. I would definitely have a talk with the director. Then I would ask them to replace the ruined nipples that they destroyed. Cutting nipples creates a safety hazard in itself.
  • There are just so many reasons to be pissed about this, I don't know where to start.  Suffice it to say - PISSED.
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    Pissed wouldn't even begin to cover it. I would definitely have a talk with the director. Then I would ask them to replace the ruined nipples that they destroyed. Cutting nipples creates a safety hazard in itself.

    This is another good point.  Some nipples actually have multiple layers and by altering the hole you could actually break off pieces of the rubber that LO could then be swallowing. 

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  • I see what your DH is saying in that they were just trying to help her.  But, you are the parent and this is altering what you and your Dr came up with as an AR remedy.  If they had the idea that maybe more cereal would help, they should have mentioned it to you before giving it to her.  Sometimes they may think of something that you didn't and raising your child becomes a team effort.  But you are ultimately the parent and they don't have the right to make a decision like that without your approval.
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  • I'd speak to the director ASAP and let him/her know that you are upset that decisions were made about your LO without consulting with you first. It's definitely a safety hazard to cut holes in the nipples. If they can't follow your specific instructions for feeding, then I'd look somewhere else for daycare.
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  • Oh yeah, I'd be pissed! Regardless of *what* they did, they shouldn't be making any decisions like that without you. My daycare calls me sometimes if they think they need to change her feeding time.

    I would just be worried of what other decisions they are or will be making without you. I don't think I would continue leaving my child there...

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  • OMG. they went over your head on way too many items at once, many of which could be actively dangerous to your LO. not to mention that it indicates a general disregard for parents' wishes and probably they have made similar clandestine decisions regarding other peoples' kids without the approval of parents. not only would i want to take LO out of that daycare and have a very stern discussion with the director, I would consider aggressively suggesting someone lose their job. a THUMBTACK?? seriously??

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    they thought they were helping and doing what was best for your LO.  Try and not get any more upset and talk to them that it was not ok.  Get some new nipples and let them know they are to continue on your feeding schedule. Remind them that with AR babies and even babies without AR still spit up, but what you are doing is just to make it less painful. 

     

    See, I completely disagree with this.  They were doing it for their own convenience.  It's a daycare and baby's spit up.  That should be baby knowledge 101 and if they can't even deal with that, its a complete dealbreaker.

     Mine asks me anytime something changes.  Last week I forgot the CA baby diaper rash cream I always send and she asked if she could use desitin because that's all she had.

    And get new nipples?  Hell no, those b1tches would be buying me new ones!

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  • Sorry lurking from 0-3!  I work as an assistant director for a center and we too provide formula and cereal, BUT that would never mean that we have any right to alter an child's feeding especially if there are health concerns like AR.  And using a THUMBTACK???  Are you kidding me...that is just disgusting!  I would be so angry with my teachers if they did anything like that.

    You should talk to the director immediately and you should also ask to be reimbursed for the nipples that they ruined without your consent.  GL.

  • That's ridiculous. It's not their place to do that. She has a condition that makes her spit  a lot...so what? You can't just feed her milkshake thick formula to make it stop. I would seriously talk to the director and they would pay for the nipples or take her somewhere else.
  • I would consider finding a new daycare if that's an option.
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    I will start by saying...I am SUPER mellow.  This right here...this would cause me to make ears burn.  I would be livid!  A thumbtack.....could have rust on it....OMG!  non sterilized.....thumbtack.  I would be asking to speak with the director IMMEDIATELY!

    this is what i was thinking, too...i'd be livid!! 

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