Do you want to rally with me?

BathingInBitter · August 2010

I think we need to go camp out on the yard of the white house until we are heard. I know that some of you have IF coverage, but there are so many of us that don't.

This last BFN really has me fired up and I think it's time that we're heard and taken seriously.

So, what do ya say?

dnrnichols · August 2010

What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..

BathingInBitter · August 2010

I'll bring a small fire pit and some hot dogs and stuff to make s'mores!

mdluv21 · August 2010

Oh I am totally there! It is ridiculous some of the things that get paid for but no support for IF!

Wahoo party in DC Big Smile

scooterq · August 2010

I'm there!

BathingInBitter · August 2010

dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..

I think this should be our next GTG plan.

msjcordova · August 2010

Im there!

Echloe · August 2010

I'm in. I'll bring all of my old IF bills to burn in the fire. ; )

dnrnichols · August 2010

Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

texasnails22 · August 2010

Let's go!!!!

MrsRich0226 · August 2010

Count me in!!

BathingInBitter · August 2010

I seriously wrote a letter to President Obama and I posted the letter on my blog. I just had someone comment on it and s/he said that " Right now Obama's health care plan has IF treatments ranked as the same necesseity as a gym membership."

::Gasp:: I think I could throw up. That hurts.

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.

Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.

Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?

mdluv21 · August 2010

Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.
Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.
Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?

I'm with you! Just let me know when and where.

BathingInBitter · August 2010

Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.
Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.
Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?

I just got goose bumps reading this! Yes, we have to start somewhere and I think that planning it for NIAW next year is a great idea. It's in April, right? I think April 25th - May 2 or does it change every year?

mrshoppy_1231 · August 2010

I'm with you Tarah! It's ridiculous that the treatments and meds cost so much and that I think so many of us have no coverage. IF is a disease and needs to start being treated as such.

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

BathingInBitter:
Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.
Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.
Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?
I just got goose bumps reading this! Yes, we have to start somewhere and I think that planning it for NIAW next year is a great idea. It's in April, right? I think April 25th - May 2 or does it change every year?

I am not sure if it is the same week every year or just around the same general time. I think we should plan a National GTG for that week with all the IF/PAIF/SAIF. There is strength in numbers and we won't be heard until we are screaming.

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

mdluv21:
Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.
Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.
Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?
I'm with you! Just let me know when and where.

I will. I was really inspired by the SELF article and feel like I have to make a difference. No matter what happens with my plans for a family I don't want any generation coming after us to be discriminated against like we are.

Anasara · August 2010

I'm with you!

MarriedaSportsNut · August 2010

As if Obama is going to help.

He reduced the FSA limit by half, from $5k to $2.5k. And he changed the deductible medical expenses from 7.5% to 10% of you gross income.

I don't know who he's helping with these changes, but it ain't infertiles.

You're better off petitioning your local government.

BathingInBitter · August 2010

Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
Yellow_Daisy:
BathingInBitter:
dnrnichols:
What day and what time do you want me there?? Cause I am soo with you on this.. I use to love the state I am in, that was until I found out that my insurance does not cover most of the IVF process..
I think this should be our next GTG plan.
Two thumbs up Tarah! I think we should plan it for NIAW next year. All the info I see says the number of people that show up for the capitol day is dismal. I don't think we will ever see change unless we are willing to put ourselves out there.
Once I get my Resolve group up and running I am going to talk to the North Pacific Resolve contact about doing a Walk of Hope in Nor Cal. I don't care if I am the only one there, we have to start somewhere, right?
I just got goose bumps reading this! Yes, we have to start somewhere and I think that planning it for NIAW next year is a great idea. It's in April, right? I think April 25th - May 2 or does it change every year?
I am not sure if it is the same week every year or just around the same general time. I think we should plan a National GTG for that week with all the IF/PAIF/SAIF. There is strength in numbers and we won't be heard until we are screaming.

I'm so fcking game. I'll start planning and I'm being serious. I can book hotels, check on flights, etc. I think it's time... And I'm not being disrespectful when I say this because I am all for it - but if Gay Marriage can get voted in in my life time, then I'll get IF coverage in my life time too. Like you said, there's power in numbers and there are 2.8 million American's dealing with IF right now. Can you imagine 2.8 million Infertile couples on the white house yard!

BathingInBitter · August 2010

MarriedaSportsNut:
As if Obama is going to help.
He reduced the FSA limit by half, from $5k to $2.5k. And he changed the deductible medical expenses from 7.5% to 10% of you gross income.
I don't know who he's helping with these changes, but it ain't infertiles.
You're better off petitioning your local government.

Well balls! When did/does the FSA limit go into effect? What a douchetastic thing for him to do. See, this is why 2.8 million of us need to camp out. How can you ignore 2.8 million people.

MarriedaSportsNut · August 2010

I believe the FSA limits start in 2013.

I f*cking hate Obama, but that's my problem.

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0426/investing-obama-tax-hikes-capital-gains-duck-obamatax.html

"Beginning next year money stashed in pretax FSAs, health savings accounts and health reimbursement accounts may no longer be used for over-the-counter medications other than insulin, unless prescribed by a doctor."

"Even more significantly, beginning in 2013, the amount you can shelter pretax in an FSA will be restricted to $2,500 a year, an amount that will then be indexed for inflation. (Currently there's no legal limit, and 78% of large employers set it at $5,000 or higher,"

"Note that it will also become more difficult as of 2013 to write off out-of-pocket medical costs on your 1040--taxpayers under 65 will be able to deduct such costs only to the extent they exceed 10% of adjusted gross income, up from 7.5% now."

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

This is what we need to participate in next year, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teZivxCe4kU. Advocacy Day is a part of NIAW I think.

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

Honestly I don't think Obama is really important to this. Our state representatives and senators are more important, we need them to write the law and get it pushed through. I doubt if something was passed by the house and senate that Obama would veto it.

JMay · August 2010

I'm with you!

BTW, I'm in love with your hair - it looks awesome and I've been trying to get my hair to look like that for months!

JMay · August 2010

Uh-oh... Let me clarify... I just saw your pic recently - I haven't been stalking your hair... but I might! Big Smile

BathingInBitter · August 2010

JMay:
Uh-oh... Let me clarify... I just saw your pic recently - I haven't been stalking your hair... but I might!

You can stalk me all you want!!! It's so simple and I love how spunky it is.

yodasmistress · August 2010

RESOLVE actually does organize events like this. I think the last one was associated with supporting the Family Building Act of 2009...

SLPMel · August 2010

dnrnichols:
Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

I'm sorry-but there shouldn't be ANY financial stops from accessing grants or IVF coverage. Do you know what $75,000 goes in my higher cost of living, with two student loans (because we both had to go on for graduate school for our professions)?

We make well over that, and it would STILL be a significant impact to pay for IVF. It would still take what ever anybody else would have to do to make it work-which is cutting back, getting another job, not going on vacations, not going out to eat.

There are grants in my clinic that we don't qualify for because we make over $95,000.

Don't you know what it is like to be judged? Why are you doing it to others?

This fight should not be able "who could afford it and who couldn't" but the fact that everybody should have coverage and finaces should never keep anybody from trying to have a child.

jani7 · August 2010

I am there!!!

kthappy76 · August 2010

I'm with you, IF makes me so angry, I'd totally go march on Washington. Hell hath no fury like an IF woman w/o insurance coverage (or something like that...).

iwannababy2010 · August 2010

dnrnichols:
Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

That is a totally unfair statement. As a couple who "does well", we have been struggling to pay the IF treatment costs...yeah, we might not have to take as many loans out, but spending the tens of thousands on this process is money we wish we had in the accounts.

IF treatments should be covered by insurance for everyone, regardless of income.

DeputiesWife · August 2010

Im there! It isnt that far from me.

DH's BFF is in the secret service -- I will see what I can arrange!! Seriously.

DeputiesWife · August 2010

dnrnichols:
Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

I agree with some of the posters in that there shouldnt be a limit. DH and I make more than that jointly. We live outside of DC. The cost of living is incredibly high. Yes, our insurance covers 50%, however it is still expensive for us and we had to budget it in with everything else, bills, mortgage, car notes, student loans, etc.

itsmevkb · August 2010

Whereas I love the idea of having "free" IF coverage, we all know everything comes at a cost. Giving government control of something like this should not be the end goal. All that is going to lead to is restrictions on the options women have. Does anyone really think that the government is going to say okay, all women have infertility coverage and have unlimited access to all available treatments? Of course not. Instead, as with all government care, there will be rationing and limitations. I hate paying out of pocket for my treatment but I'd rather be able to make my own decisions regarding what treatments to pursue, how many cycles I want to do, how many embryos I want to transfer, etc., rather than have some government official decide all that.

I think the smarter path is to convince employers and insurance companies that providing IVF coverage will actually reduce costs by reducing the number of women who choose IUIs and end up with high-order multiples.

Bella2u07 · August 2010

I'm in!!

My boss knows one of our State Senators, so maybe I could talk to him????

periwnkl10 · August 2010

I love this thread!!! I'm SO in!

grazy · August 2010

Something like this would be great to get involved in.

Yellow_Daisy · August 2010

iwannababy2010:

dnrnichols:
Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

That is a totally unfair statement. As a couple who "does well", we have been struggling to pay the IF treatment costs...yeah, we might not have to take as many loans out, but spending the tens of thousands on this process is money we wish we had in the accounts.

IF treatments should be covered by insurance for everyone, regardless of income.

Thank you Iwannababy2010 and others. We make more than 75k (not a lot more, but more) and live in a high cost of living area. We spend a lot on rent, higher gas prices, higher car insurance because we live in a metro area, in comparison to some other areas higher IF costs, we pay more in taxes due to our bracket, etc. It is really easy to say 75k is a lot of money and those people shouldn't get help, but until you actually walk in someone else's shoes you shouldn't judge them. You never know what expenses a person has that they can't live without, like my $300/mo in medicine/doctor copays that have nothing to do with IF, but insurance doesn't cover and I need them to live.

SLPMel · August 2010

Yellow_Daisy:
iwannababy2010:

dnrnichols:
Oh and have you looked into some of the grants they have out there.. Some of them you have to make at least 75K to qualify.. Sorry but if you make that much, then you should be able to pay for your own IVF cycle. Just something else that gets under my skin.

That is a totally unfair statement. As a couple who "does well", we have been struggling to pay the IF treatment costs...yeah, we might not have to take as many loans out, but spending the tens of thousands on this process is money we wish we had in the accounts.

IF treatments should be covered by insurance for everyone, regardless of income.

Thank you Iwannababy2010 and others. We make more than 75k (not a lot more, but more) and live in a high cost of living area. We spend a lot on rent, higher gas prices, higher car insurance because we live in a metro area, in comparison to some other areas higher IF costs, we pay more in taxes due to our bracket, etc. It is really easy to say 75k is a lot of money and those people shouldn't get help, but until you actually walk in someone else's shoes you shouldn't judge them. You never know what expenses a person has that they can't live without, like my $300/mo in medicine/doctor copays that have nothing to do with IF, but insurance doesn't cover and I need them to live.

And hey, if only people with incomes below $75,000 deserve help, shouldn't we make it fair and say that if you already have a child you shouldn't get any help either? I mean, you already have a child, shouldn't it go to someone who has no children?

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