Omg. She sent me an email.

ohashlet · August 2010

buckin:
ohashlet:
buckin:

I missed all this but please do not take this to heart. I am a christian and I had to have a d & c because I hemoragged during my m/c and was going to DIE if I didn't. It's still considered abortion and it was not wrong.

Her judgement and gossip against you is actually a sin where as your procedure is not one so she can suck it on her way to he11.

Wait, so it IS considered an abortion? Even if she was already passed? I mean, I don't think what I did was wrong at all. I am not a Christian, and so I'm not sure, I'm just ignorant about it. Explain?

I could be wrong but to abort just means to end/the removal of. It does not specify live or dead. On my insurance paperwork it said abortion which pissed me the hell off because I did not choose to abort my child but it had already been dead for three weeks and the hemoraging forced me to have the procedure.

I'm not sure what you had done but if it was a d&E or d&c it is probably still termed abortion in they medical terms but definately not in religious terms to my knowledge (atleast not by my church or any of the churches I've been to which have ranged in denomination but include Southern Baptist, Moravian, and no denom.).

Okay, okay. I understand now. I knew it was an abortion, meaning, removal from my body, you're probably right. It's not what she's saying. I'm sure God, if he exists, wouldn't object to me protection my health and removing my passed daughter from my body for my own safety and health.

I'm trying to not be upset. I was fine a bit ago but now I'm not.

ETA: Wow okay, that was an effed up version of english. I took a couple vicodin about 40 minutes ago and it's clearly visible in this post. lol

Mrs_Liberto · August 2010

ohashlet:
buckin:
ohashlet:
buckin:

I missed all this but please do not take this to heart. I am a christian and I had to have a d & c because I hemoragged during my m/c and was going to DIE if I didn't. It's still considered abortion and it was not wrong.

Her judgement and gossip against you is actually a sin where as your procedure is not one so she can suck it on her way to he11.

Wait, so it IS considered an abortion? Even if she was already passed? I mean, I don't think what I did was wrong at all. I am not a Christian, and so I'm not sure, I'm just ignorant about it. Explain?

I could be wrong but to abort just means to end/the removal of. It does not specify live or dead. On my insurance paperwork it said abortion which pissed me the hell off because I did not choose to abort my child but it had already been dead for three weeks and the hemoraging forced me to have the procedure.

I'm not sure what you had done but if it was a d&E or d&c it is probably still termed abortion in they medical terms but definately not in religious terms to my knowledge (atleast not by my church or any of the churches I've been to which have ranged in denomination but include Southern Baptist, Moravian, and no denom.).
Okay, okay. I understand now. I knew it was an abortion, meaning, removal from my body, you're probably right. It's not what she's saying. I'm sure God, if he exists, wouldn't object to me protection my health and removing my passed daughter from my body for my own safety and health.
I'm trying to not be upset. I was fine a bit ago but now I'm not.

Agreed. FWIW, if you get a bill/statement from your insurance don't be surprised if it's called an abortion. (My very-religious bff was in hysterics after getting that paper in the mail when she was already feeling very guilty about a D&C).

Huge, huge hugs. You can tell that you've got the support of all North America on your side right now-- you just say the word.

caffinated_tulip · August 2010

I'm so fvcking pissed for you right now.

Let me at her. Seriously. LET ME AT HER.

MrsW007 · August 2010

I am so so sorry you are going through all of this. That woman is her own brand of BSC. With that being said, I have my beliefs, values, and morals based in Christianity and none of them say it is ok to act like that.

I find it very interesting that at times those who are religious are the first to judge. I say this from personal experience in my own family.

It is your body, your child, and your family. You did what you needed to do for your health and well-being and it is no one else's decision, period. I hope she never has to make that type of decision.

buckin · August 2010

ohashlet:
buckin:
ohashlet:
buckin:

I missed all this but please do not take this to heart. I am a christian and I had to have a d & c because I hemoragged during my m/c and was going to DIE if I didn't. It's still considered abortion and it was not wrong.

Her judgement and gossip against you is actually a sin where as your procedure is not one so she can suck it on her way to he11.

Wait, so it IS considered an abortion? Even if she was already passed? I mean, I don't think what I did was wrong at all. I am not a Christian, and so I'm not sure, I'm just ignorant about it. Explain?

I could be wrong but to abort just means to end/the removal of. It does not specify live or dead. On my insurance paperwork it said abortion which pissed me the hell off because I did not choose to abort my child but it had already been dead for three weeks and the hemoraging forced me to have the procedure.

I'm not sure what you had done but if it was a d&E or d&c it is probably still termed abortion in they medical terms but definately not in religious terms to my knowledge (atleast not by my church or any of the churches I've been to which have ranged in denomination but include Southern Baptist, Moravian, and no denom.).

Okay, okay. I understand now. I knew it was an abortion, meaning, removal from my body, you're probably right. It's not what she's saying. I'm sure God, if he exists, wouldn't object to me protection my health and removing my passed daughter from my body for my own safety and health.

I'm trying to not be upset. I was fine a bit ago but now I'm not.

ETA: Wow okay, that was an effed up version of english. I took a couple vicodin about 40 minutes ago and it's clearly visible in this post. lol

Don't be upset sweetie. You did what was right and what had to be done. Do not let some psycho religious zealot who is NOT a spokesperson for God (whether you believe or not) get to you. Many religions (and I've studied a few and married a pagan) have beautiful things about them but most of them have some kind of hell and brimstone teachings mixed in and all inspire random tryannical cultish behavior and overzealous bible thumpers (or koran thumpers or what have you).

You can not take their bashing to heart. Listen to your own heart and find the inner peace you need within you. Let them be judged and answer to their higher powers in their own time for the stupid things they have said and done. We love you and we definately have your back.

Big huge hugs.

Stategrl21 · August 2010

Ash, I am just a lurker but I just wanted to tell you that I am sorry that you are having to deal with this on top of what you are already going through. Please know that this woman is not at all a representation of a true Christian. I am a Christian and I know that Jesus told us not to judge, but to love everyone since we are all sinners equally. What you did was necessary for your health and I know was not a decision you made lightly. You and S are in my prayers through this time. Please don't let the judgmental, ignorant words of this woman cause you more pain.

MrsSM · August 2010

Dee1028:
This makes me sick, Ash. It really really does.
I am sorry for all of this and I think now is the time for you to block her completely from your life. She is seriously delusional. She is obviously not going to listen to reason. She needs serious help. Seriously.
I am sorry. I am so sorry.

I don't know what to say that says it better than this. I am so very, deeply sorry that you have had this ordeal. {hugs} as many and as long as you need them.

weelass24 · August 2010

I am so sorry. I am not at all surprised by her response. She is just one of those people who uses religion to justify every action, thought and judgement she has. People like that become blinded to reason.

((HUGS))

mmkaye · August 2010

Wow. She truly is crazy.

Mrs.C042807 · August 2010

I don't usually get all Jesus-y on the boards, but people who use God as an excuse to judge others are themselves going to be judged harshly one day.

She's a poor excuse for a human being, let alone a Christian.

mrsmacias2008 · August 2010

That is the worse apology I have ever seen. I should email her. Stupid biotch.

I am just pissed. Is she saying that her losing a baby was ok because she m/c naturally. Um, she has a lot to learn.

SarahTx5701 · August 2010

If she is a so called christian, than I doubt where she gets her information from.

I have been following your story but have not posted yet. I am so sorry you are dealing with everything and then to top it off you have to deal with this biiitch.

She gives christians a bad name. It is truly hideous what she is saying and suggestions. God is NOT mad at you. First of all...you did't abort your baby. Does she not even see that? Nature or God or whatever caused the loss of your sweet Rory. nothing YOU did. I feel like I am rambling but that girl is off her rocker and she needs to go back and read Bible. If that is what she is reading and I HIGHLY doubt her interpretation.

I'm so terribly sorry. I can't believe that are people in the world like that who seriously think she is doing some kind of good by contacting you like she did.

bensbabe · August 2010

Sorry I'm super late to this, but I just couldn't post something like this from my phone last night when I first read it.

As far as medical terminology, miscarriage is labeled as an abortion. A woman can have a spontaneous abortion (This is where you pass the baby on your own. All of my miscarriages have happened like this, your pregnancy did not.), or a missed abortion (This is where they have to do D&Cs or D&Es because your body "missed" the baby's passing. This is your situation, of course.). An ELECTIVE abortion is where you choose to terminate a pregnancy--a "true" abortion.

I am very much a devout Christian, in fact, I am Catholic. I cannot stand when someone claims to be a good, moral Christian, but does exactly as this piece of crap has done--judging others (especially when she has NO IDEA). She definitely gives others a bad rep with her zealot ways. Her whole email was contraindicating her first paragraph. I would love to give her a piece of my mind (as a medical professional) because she (as well as anyone else who has suffered a miscarriage) had an abortion, too. The only difference was that little Rory was already gone but didn't want to leave her mama's belly.

I read Oh-zy's response last night, too, and it was wonderfully put together. It was calm & explanatory without too much emotion. I don't think she understands everything, and you shouldn't have to deal with her any more. If she does understand, she's gone in waaaaay too deep & doesn't want to backtrack now.

I'm so very sorry she's putting you through all of this. I am super glad that you do have some really wonderful friends thinking & praying for you. Love you sweetheart!

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