T had crying fits for the first 2 1/2 months and it was AWFUL! Sometimes we could get him to calm down by running the vacuum. I hope you find something soon that works for you. (((HUGS))
I'm so sorry that you are going through this. Having had a colicky baby myself, I know exactly what you are going through. Hang on though, it WILL get better!
We went through a similar situation and the one thing that really worked for us was to put him in the bouncer and then put the bouncer on top of the dryer as it was running. I know, sounds crazy - but it worked! Our photographer recommended this to us as one of hers was colicky as well. So in desperation one night we tried it and he was quiet and asleep within a few minutes of being on top of it. Guess it's the vibration + the sound and maybe even the slight heat..... obviously we were right there next to the dryer the entire time - the washer/dryer closet is in our tv room so we didn't have to go to the garage or anything. Not sure how your place is set up - but I would definitely try it out.
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My friend taught me the colic hold. Her daughter was much like what you describe with your little man and she said this hold worked wonders. I'll try to describe it the best I can: Turn your LO so his back is up against your stomach and he is facing out ward. Place one of your arms in between his legs, with your palm on his belly. Put your other arm over his top sholder, again, with your palm on his belly. Link your two hands that are over his belly together and put some pressure down to release gas. He will be at a slant in this position. Rock or bounce to his preference.
Sending big hugs your way!!
This. DD was colicy and this seemed to help some. I would hold her like this and bounce on a yoga ball.
We would also kind of drape her over the boppy, like you would for tummy time, and pat her back like we were burping her.
I could sometimes manage to get her to calm down if I had her wrapped really tight in the moby.
And I swear we went through gallons of gripe water!
Does the pedi suspect reflux at all? DD had reflux on top of the colic and it did get better after she was started on meds.
Hang in there and get out of the house, even if its for five minutes!
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I'm so sorry, I know it's hard. Madeline screamed the first three weeks. I ended up sobbing in the bathroom for hours one night. She has reflux and was getting major gas from her formula. After trying 4 formulas, generic enfamil ad did the trick. It took about a week along with reflux meds to see a difference. Mylicon didn't do much for the screamming but I figured out an once of formula mixed with gripe water about a half hour after eating relaxed her enough to fall asleep. I would also hold her belly to my belly while on her side and rock her in the rocking chair.
It will get better!
ditto those who have suggested it could be a milk/soy issue. this is exactly what little michael was like before we discovered his MSPI (milk soy protein intolerance.) switching to soy formula won't help if he has MSPI. you'd need to switch to a special ($$) formula unfortunately. or, as in my case, if you are BFing, you remove ALL dairy and soy from your diet (including every tiny little bit of soybean oil, soy lecithin, everything. basically all processed food and whole soy/dairy foods.)
you will get through this and you will have experience and hope to offer other new mamas going through it. but i know *exactly* how hard this is, to have him screaming just constantly. it is awful. you are doing a great job, just hang in there. and i would seriously consider that it could be MSPI.
(((HUGS)))
im echoing gretchen here....luckily, my dairy allergic LO's (ALL THREE!!) were not soy allergic as well...but my GI told me that about 60 % of dairly allergic babies are soy allergic are as well...so we gave the boys the super expensive no dairy/no soy formula...with audrey i just cut out dairy....it took a full 2 weeks to truly make a full difference, but she was a TOTALLY different baby after she had all of the dairy fully out of her system. i hope that something helps very very soon.
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Have you tried switching bottles? His first bottles were the Playtex Ventaire and we could SEE him swallowing bubbles and thought for sure this is why he was having so much gas pains so we switched to Born Free and it made a big difference!
oh hon.... I am so frustrated for you! after everything you've been through, i hate that you're dealing with this too...
I have no other advice, just that I really hope you and your pedi come up with something FAST. please please do what you can to take care of yourself, too. getting out and getting even a little refreshed will do wonders for being able to deal with all of this.
HUGS!
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How about swaddling and a having him sleep partially inclined? (I'm a non-mom at the moment but have been reading a TON of books so I hope you don't mind me throwing in suggestions Your exact story is a fear of mine and I feel like not having had that 9 month gestational period/preparation will me me that much worse at it all so I'm trying to digest as much info and knowledge as possible.
Oh and on other boards I've seen a lot about the glow worm doll/thingy (crud, forget the name of it now). And the infamous car rides at night. I've heard that one for years!
((hugs)) Hang in there. I've heard it gets better in a couple weeks.
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I am so sorry, and HUGE hugs. I'm also going to suggest the swaddling and baby wearing. Also, one thing that helped DD when she would have screaming fits like that was the happi tummi wrap. Its awesome and homeopathic. I found it at Buy Buy Baby:
Oh my goodness, that sounds like a complete nightmare. After your rough pregnancy, you do not deserve to be going through this! It sounds like you are doing everything humanly possible, so I have no advice; I can only say that I'm thinking of you and hoping that your little one gets to feeling better very very soon. Hang in there.
((hugs)) Dylan wasn't that bad but he definitely had a lot of gas pain, would cry, and would cry in his sleep. We tried many things but what ended up working was ready to feed Alimentum. In around 10 days he was a different baby. I'm not saying that is what he needs but just something to keep in mind as you go through trial and error. Bless your heart. I know this is so hard! Try to get out if you can and make sure you're taking care of yourself. Maybe let your DH take over for a while, put in some earplugs, and sleep. That in itself will help so much! I know you can't believe it now, but this too shall pass.
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Oh Smilee, I'm so sorry you're having such a rough time. Those first few weeks are torture. As much as you love being a mommy, the crying and lack of sleep can just ruin you for awhile. I finally had to go to my mom's for some help and to get some sleep. The hormones and sleep deprivation can combine for some nasty PPD as it did for me, so I was glad to catch it early. I know you've probably tried everything. What worked for me was dairy-free diet, mylicon drops, gripe water, swaddling, and the swing. Mostly it just took time, though. Not what you want to hear, I'm sure. The MPSI seems like a good lead to research. Good luck and please feel free to vent anytime!
Are you breastfeeding? Have you asked if he's tongue tied? My daughter SCREAMED for 13 days before I convinced someone she was and they clipped her (absolutely no big deal, didn't even cry) and then we were set.
You need some help! You need someone to come over and let you nap and/or get out of the house. You need a little peace so you can recharge and get back into the trenches. Ask for some help, sweetie.
Hang in there...thinking of you and sending you a giant hug.
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The diet changes have been helpful suggestions. Unfortunately, those things take time.
We had bad gas issues. We did a full dropper of mylicon BEFORE every other feeding per our pedi's suggestion. It didn't work until we did it BEFORE the feeding.
We also did loud white noise. I couldn't sleep at first it was so loud.
Also, if he is breaking out of the swaddle, try one of these techniques
Didn't read all the replies & I know you've been doing happiest baby but did you try the actual vacuum? It was the only thing that would make DD stop crying (even though I hate the sound of hte vacuum, it was better than the crying & her being so upset) sometimes. We even went & bought a cheap loud vacuum just for that purpose (as I was convinced my ILs would burn out the motor on our Dyson) and we kept a hair dryer in the nursery next to the glider.
I am sure lots of ppl have said reflux so that is a possibility too.
What I would personally suggest is getting someone else to watch them for a couple hrs and you leave the house & go sleep somewhere else. Rest is so important & sleep deprivation doesn't do anyone in the family any good.
This was my life for about 3-4 months. It was horrible. It sucked. My own mother didn't want to hold my child. I tried a myriad of things but one thing I didn't try that will be the FIRST thing I try with baby #2 is the chiropractor. I have heard many testimonials that a chiropractor can adjust the baby and "cure" colic. I will be there in a heartbeat with baby#2 because I am not going through that again. It was pure misery for us. I'm so sorry that you are going through this!!
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I have been there and I know how incredibly hard this is -- here are my suggestions:
1) you need to get out of the house for a little bit! i know it is hard -- it is impossible to relax when you know your baby is upset and you don't know how to help him. if you can't get out of the house, put the white noise machine in your room or wherever you are and it will help block the crying noise for you while someone else watches the baby for a few hours.
2) it can take up to 2 weeks for the new formula to make a difference. if he is allergic to milk protein it can stay in his system for a while. DD was less gassy with soy (w/i about a week) but then she got constipated
3) have you tried cradling him while you bounce on an exercise ball while playing VERY LOUD white noise. (in my experience most baby white noise machines were not loud enough to calm DD. We had to use a real hair dryer or the baby white noise app on my ipod with very loud speakers.) does he calm down a bit if you drive him in the car?
3) reflux? have you talked to pedi about this? we didnt discover DD's reflux until she was 3 months or so and as soon as she started prevacid she was soooooooo much better. she never spit up much so we didnt suspect it -- then we realized she had "silent reflux." zantac did not make a difference for her. seeing a pedi GI rather than a regular pedi really helped with this.
4) push push push the pedi for a solution. we wasted so much time changing between various formulas until we finally realized she needed to be on the super expensive (but totally worth it) hypoallergenic formula which you can't buy in stores -- called Neocate (Elecare is a similar one). i wish pedi had just suggested this to begin with since we suspected milk allergy from beginning
5) mylicon did not work for us, neither did gripe water or the happi tummy belt or any other colic remedy out there.
i am here if you need to vent -- i really feel for you and know how incredibly hard this is. hang in there -- it does get better!!!!!!!!!!
OH sweety, I am so sorry! I would be miserable too!! Do you have anyone who can give you a break?
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Oh smilee. I want to come over and help. You poor mama. The newborn zone can REALLY REALLY be AWFUL sometimes - doesn't matter HOW much you wanted a baby. It can just be a nightmare. HUGS TO YOU!!! And don't be afraid to put him down and walk outside for a few minutes to get a break - it's FINE.
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GRIPE WATER, GRIPE WATER, GRIPE WATER!! Those mylicon drops do nothing. I did gripe water before and after feeding for months. We used to dip his binkie in this stuff as well!
DS also needed to be put on Zantac for his tummy issues. He liked the swing on the fastest setting possible. I would swaddle him really tight even though he hated it and put him in the swing on the fastest setting. But honestly the best thing was the gripe water and the zantac. I breastfeed so I had to eliminate dairy, pasta sauce, chocolate, caffeine until he was about 12 weeks old and by then their digestion matures.
We've all been there and it really does suck. You want to enjoy your baby but you can't because all he does is cry. You should also try and get out of the house for an hour if you can.
1st - get out of the house by yourself ASAP. Go to your mom's, IL's, best friend - where ever but get out, get a hot shower, a good meal and a nap. He is going to scream whether you are there or not and you to recharge or you are going to crash HARD. please take care of YOU.
2nd - have your tried a sling or moby wrap?
3rd - I 2nd the advice to see a chiro and have him evaluated. Something might be out of whack from delivery and he might be in pain.
4th - as soon as his stump falls off, draw a warm bath and get in with him. It should help settle you both down.
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I don't post much but this is something that tugs at my heart strings. My oldest son cried literally non-stop my entire maternity leave. If he was awake, he was crying. I got TONS of advice-- white noise machines, gripe water, happiest baby on the block, etc, etc and NOTHING worked at all. The only time he was quiet was when he was breastfeeding or sleeping. It was the darkest, most miserable time in my life when it was supposed to be the happiest (I, like you, suffered mulitple pregnancy losses before this). It is TOUGH when you have an infant like this. My advice is this: do what you need to do to preserve your sanity. Women that say they could never let their baby cry do not have a baby like this. When it got to the point that I literally thought I may lose it and hurt him or myself (I feel terrible even writing that but you do begin to lose control in this situation), I would make sure his basic needs were met and put him in his crib and shut the door in order to collect myself before I could pick him up and do it over again. And don't be afraid to ask for HELP! Have someone come over and hold your baby, crying or not, while you get out for a walk, take a shower, etc.
Now fast forward to today (because I would not have believed this back when i was in your shoes!) my son is now a well-adjusted, wonderful, HAPPY toddler! The light of our lives and those early months are a distant memory. So it DOES get better and you and your son will come out with a stronger bond then ever having gone through this together.
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OMG--I feel soooooo bad for you.
T had crying fits for the first 2 1/2 months and it was AWFUL! Sometimes we could get him to calm down by running the vacuum. I hope you find something soon that works for you. (((HUGS))
This. DD was colicy and this seemed to help some. I would hold her like this and bounce on a yoga ball.
We would also kind of drape her over the boppy, like you would for tummy time, and pat her back like we were burping her.
I could sometimes manage to get her to calm down if I had her wrapped really tight in the moby.
And I swear we went through gallons of gripe water!
Does the pedi suspect reflux at all? DD had reflux on top of the colic and it did get better after she was started on meds.
Hang in there and get out of the house, even if its for five minutes!
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im echoing gretchen here....luckily, my dairy allergic LO's (ALL THREE!!) were not soy allergic as well...but my GI told me that about 60 % of dairly allergic babies are soy allergic are as well...so we gave the boys the super expensive no dairy/no soy formula...with audrey i just cut out dairy....it took a full 2 weeks to truly make a full difference, but she was a TOTALLY different baby after she had all of the dairy fully out of her system. i hope that something helps very very soon.
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Have you tried switching bottles? His first bottles were the Playtex Ventaire and we could SEE him swallowing bubbles and thought for sure this is why he was having so much gas pains so we switched to Born Free and it made a big difference!
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oh hon.... I am so frustrated for you! after everything you've been through, i hate that you're dealing with this too...
I have no other advice, just that I really hope you and your pedi come up with something FAST. please please do what you can to take care of yourself, too. getting out and getting even a little refreshed will do wonders for being able to deal with all of this.
HUGS!
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How about swaddling and a having him sleep partially inclined? (I'm a non-mom at the moment but have been reading a TON of books so I hope you don't mind me throwing in suggestions
Your exact story is a fear of mine and I feel like not having had that 9 month gestational period/preparation will me me that much worse at it all so I'm trying to digest as much info and knowledge as possible.
Oh and on other boards I've seen a lot about the glow worm doll/thingy (crud, forget the name of it now). And the infamous car rides at night. I've heard that one for years!
((hugs)) Hang in there. I've heard it gets better in a couple weeks.
I am so sorry, and HUGE hugs. I'm also going to suggest the swaddling and baby wearing. Also, one thing that helped DD when she would have screaming fits like that was the happi tummi wrap. Its awesome and homeopathic. I found it at Buy Buy Baby:
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(((HUGS))) no real advice for you except that you need to get your rest. Take care. I'm sure a switch in formula will make a diff.
Did you ever get to try the gripe water?
You need some help! You need someone to come over and let you nap and/or get out of the house. You need a little peace so you can recharge and get back into the trenches. Ask for some help, sweetie.
Hang in there...thinking of you and sending you a giant hug.
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The diet changes have been helpful suggestions. Unfortunately, those things take time.
We had bad gas issues. We did a full dropper of mylicon BEFORE every other feeding per our pedi's suggestion. It didn't work until we did it BEFORE the feeding.
We also did loud white noise. I couldn't sleep at first it was so loud.
Also, if he is breaking out of the swaddle, try one of these techniques
We did method number 2. C didn't sleep until we did it.
And hang in there. No need to dd. It's crazy tough in the beginning. You're doing great!!
PS Get to a doctor. See if they can help with the eat/keeping it in.
Didn't read all the replies & I know you've been doing happiest baby but did you try the actual vacuum? It was the only thing that would make DD stop crying (even though I hate the sound of hte vacuum, it was better than the crying & her being so upset) sometimes. We even went & bought a cheap loud vacuum just for that purpose (as I was convinced my ILs would burn out the motor on our Dyson) and we kept a hair dryer in the nursery next to the glider.
I am sure lots of ppl have said reflux so that is a possibility too.
What I would personally suggest is getting someone else to watch them for a couple hrs and you leave the house & go sleep somewhere else. Rest is so important & sleep deprivation doesn't do anyone in the family any good.
GL!!!!
Sorry to hear your LO and you are having such a tough time right now.
All I can say is - Gripe water did wonders for my LO's gas. He still has some, but nothing like before. Hope you get some relief soon. Hang in there.
I have been there and I know how incredibly hard this is -- here are my suggestions:
1) you need to get out of the house for a little bit! i know it is hard -- it is impossible to relax when you know your baby is upset and you don't know how to help him. if you can't get out of the house, put the white noise machine in your room or wherever you are and it will help block the crying noise for you while someone else watches the baby for a few hours.
2) it can take up to 2 weeks for the new formula to make a difference. if he is allergic to milk protein it can stay in his system for a while. DD was less gassy with soy (w/i about a week) but then she got constipated
3) have you tried cradling him while you bounce on an exercise ball while playing VERY LOUD white noise. (in my experience most baby white noise machines were not loud enough to calm DD. We had to use a real hair dryer or the baby white noise app on my ipod with very loud speakers.) does he calm down a bit if you drive him in the car?
3) reflux? have you talked to pedi about this? we didnt discover DD's reflux until she was 3 months or so and as soon as she started prevacid she was soooooooo much better. she never spit up much so we didnt suspect it -- then we realized she had "silent reflux." zantac did not make a difference for her. seeing a pedi GI rather than a regular pedi really helped with this.
4) push push push the pedi for a solution. we wasted so much time changing between various formulas until we finally realized she needed to be on the super expensive (but totally worth it) hypoallergenic formula which you can't buy in stores -- called Neocate (Elecare is a similar one). i wish pedi had just suggested this to begin with since we suspected milk allergy from beginning
5) mylicon did not work for us, neither did gripe water or the happi tummy belt or any other colic remedy out there.
i am here if you need to vent -- i really feel for you and know how incredibly hard this is. hang in there -- it does get better!!!!!!!!!!
"When it comes to sleeping, whatever your baby does is normal. If one thing has damaged parents enjoyment of their babies, it's rigid expectations about how and when the baby should sleep." ~ James McKenna, Ph.D., Mother Baby Behavioral Sleep Center, University of Notre Dame
GRIPE WATER, GRIPE WATER, GRIPE WATER!! Those mylicon drops do nothing. I did gripe water before and after feeding for months. We used to dip his binkie in this stuff as well!
DS also needed to be put on Zantac for his tummy issues. He liked the swing on the fastest setting possible. I would swaddle him really tight even though he hated it and put him in the swing on the fastest setting. But honestly the best thing was the gripe water and the zantac. I breastfeed so I had to eliminate dairy, pasta sauce, chocolate, caffeine until he was about 12 weeks old and by then their digestion matures.
We've all been there and it really does suck. You want to enjoy your baby but you can't because all he does is cry. You should also try and get out of the house for an hour if you can.
Oh, honey! HUGE hugs!
1st - get out of the house by yourself ASAP. Go to your mom's, IL's, best friend - where ever but get out, get a hot shower, a good meal and a nap. He is going to scream whether you are there or not and you to recharge or you are going to crash HARD. please take care of YOU.
2nd - have your tried a sling or moby wrap?
3rd - I 2nd the advice to see a chiro and have him evaluated. Something might be out of whack from delivery and he might be in pain.
4th - as soon as his stump falls off, draw a warm bath and get in with him. It should help settle you both down.
GOOD LUCK!!!
I don't post much but this is something that tugs at my heart strings. My oldest son cried literally non-stop my entire maternity leave. If he was awake, he was crying. I got TONS of advice-- white noise machines, gripe water, happiest baby on the block, etc, etc and NOTHING worked at all. The only time he was quiet was when he was breastfeeding or sleeping. It was the darkest, most miserable time in my life when it was supposed to be the happiest (I, like you, suffered mulitple pregnancy losses before this). It is TOUGH when you have an infant like this. My advice is this: do what you need to do to preserve your sanity. Women that say they could never let their baby cry do not have a baby like this. When it got to the point that I literally thought I may lose it and hurt him or myself (I feel terrible even writing that but you do begin to lose control in this situation), I would make sure his basic needs were met and put him in his crib and shut the door in order to collect myself before I could pick him up and do it over again. And don't be afraid to ask for HELP! Have someone come over and hold your baby, crying or not, while you get out for a walk, take a shower, etc.
Now fast forward to today (because I would not have believed this back when i was in your shoes!) my son is now a well-adjusted, wonderful, HAPPY toddler! The light of our lives and those early months are a distant memory. So it DOES get better and you and your son will come out with a stronger bond then ever having gone through this together.