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this could start a big debate:TV
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Re: this could start a big debate:TV
See, I tend to find those that go with the no TV approach to be way more judgemental of those who allow it. And its because they sit there and bust out the AAP links. I'm not in disagreement with you about the research. My whole point is that people who blindly follow the AAP make me laugh.
i can't speak for others, but we read every single day, sometimes multiple times/day. we also do a variety of play activities. this is just one more thing added into the day, not in place of.
Yeah since I spelled something wrong twice I'm totally unworthy of decent treatment. I don't need to impress you. And while I know that some people feel the need to be "snarky" from time to time, I do not and never have been on this board. So please do not write to me again the way you've done today.
On a side note. I have been accepted into a doctorate program in literacy. I decided not to pursue it at the time because I wanted to concentrate on my adopted daughter. But its not out of the question for the future. I do happen to know quite a lot of language and "speech to print mapping" (Spelling) So honeslty get over a couple mispelled words, because if I wanted to, I could word whip you. Now if you want to talk Math...I'm a moron!
*eye roll* and here's the inevitable "I'm smarter than you and you must be uneducated and not have done your research because you don't agree with me and my viewpoint" schpeel.
Ok fancy pants, we'll reconvene in 16 years and compare LO's ok? WTF?
*Einstein*
the irony is so thick i can barely stand it
I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously after you said that kids should build their own immunities. To hell with vaccines. I'm paraphrasing of course
Right. I would be willing to bet this is the case for most people. I think everyone can agree that just plopping your child down in front of the TV instead of being a parent to them is WRONG. I did not see anyone here who said thats what they do. Yet, some posters are certainly trying to insinuate that aren't they?
haha...coming up on 'the doctors'...should babies watch tv.
jamieS...i love you, not being snarky, but i watched a lot of tv as a kid in the 70's, graduated in the top 3% of my class and don't have add...granted, i'm one person.
sigh. I know you said "i'm one person" but this is one of my pet peeves (and why I even got involved in this convo because I really don't care what others do in regards to tv). Studies show it increases the odds....not that it guarantees ADD. Therefore, people saying "I turned out fine" doesn't prove anything.
end of rant.
Um, okay. I wasn't talking about YOUR kids.. I was talking about studies (in reply to "LOL this always makes me laugh too! How in the world do you know what their kids are going to be like when they're teens? You have no clue. Can anyone say that watching TV would definitively cause ADHD in teens or adults? NO!") Yeah, lots of studies say that - like I said, people who are in their 20s - 30s have participated in them from infancy. However, TV is so ingrained in our culture that people don't really care. I know way too many kids and adults who take something for ADD/ADHD, and it doesn't shock me if our media culture contributed to it.
I really don't care how you raise your kid(s). I offered my opinion, and stated what I did based on how I view the research.
yes. i agree with everything you've said.
No offense taken (<3 you too). I don't think it's guaranteed - but also keep in mind that TV now and TV then are different. Scenes were longer then (less jumping around), for instance. My DH did a study on this, especially pertaining to kids' programming and how often there is a scene change compared to other types of programming.. it's pretty eye-opening.
i hear ya'...just seems like a hard thing to prove. i think technology in general is probably going to increase the odds of those things...heck, i feel overstimulated by it all sometimes.
well, I will cry if I get pregnant again before LO is 2, so hopefully I won't have to experience that
Seriously, I hate this debate.
I posted the AAP links (and two are two evidenced based studies, not just AAP guidelines) because most people seem unaware of their stance. I rarely hear anyone say "I know the AAP recommends no tv, but we don't follow it because...". What I do see is a lot of justification because so and so turned out fine, and "what harm could it do".
If you want to get into the nitty gritty reasons for the AAP recommendation, I'm happy to talk about it. But, I get sick of wasting my time talking to people who don't give as shiit because they aren't going to turn their TV off (or at least their baby away from it) no matter what.
And to the person that says it's impossible not to allow your baby to watch tv unless you don't own one, I'm having a hard time coming up with a response that isn't insanely snarky. We have a TV, in one room, it's on quite a bit. But, when X is awake in there we either face him away from the tv or turn it off. It's not that hard at all.
i agree...i've also learned a lot from tv. not sure why people think it's such a mind suck. sometimes it can even be good entertainment!
Cause AAP is ALWAYS right...get over yourself
If you're going to laugh at her spelling, you should check yours before you post a snarky response. "Alot" is not a word. It's "a lot," smarty pants.
i originally read that as no tv on, ever. maybe that poster did as well. i was careful to start my post 'i know it's not recommended' for that reason. i actually always enjoy your responses. to each their own, though. i certainly don't advocate kids watching hours of tv a day. i'm one for moderation as well (with most things...i couldn't let my baby cry 'in moderation', not happening!)
I was just about to post this. Pot calling Kettle?
I find it interesting that one of the articles you mentioned above states that "early exposure to television was associated with attention problems." This doesn't say causes. Two very different things. They also go on to admit "We cannot draw causal inferences from these associations. It could be that attention problems lead to television viewing rather than vice versa."
Did you actually read the articles?
This topic is so dumb. I honestly find it hard to believe that people actually plop their babies in front of the television. Has my kid ever been in a room where a TV is on? Sure. Do I put on shows FOR HER? No. She is a BABY. She does not need to be watching TV. Things like Baby Einstein are like junk food. There is absolutely nothing redeeming about television for a baby, so why put it on at all?
Whenever this topic comes up, the only argument people seem to have in favor of TV is that "it won't kill them". Wow, that's reassuring. My child won't be dead after watching a TV show, what a great endorsement!
Turn the TV off, FFS!
This. and if you listen to every study, we wouldn't be able to do, eat, drink, listen to, watch......et al.....anything.
I don't listen to every study individually. I compare them and look at what the evidence, as a whole, suggests.
Thanks??
huh? that wasn't about you at all. It was about me. I can't handle another LO right now. So therefore we don't plan to have one so your comment (although directed at those who are anti tv) doesn't apply to me. It was meant to be light hearted. It was in no way saying that those who do get pregnant sooner are bad.
Yes, I've read them.
The verbiage you chose to pick out is pretty typical for scientific research studies, it's important to detail various possible exceptions to present an unbiased thorough conclusion.
I posted those links with no commentary about the details. I don't really understand why you're trying to argue with me about something (semantics at that) I never said. I'm very well aware that the conclusion wasn't "TV will definitively cause ADD", but there is a correlation to increased risk.
I'm not a huge TV fan for children, but I have to admit that it is a lifesaver. I couldn't nurse an infant and contain my toddler if I didn't have the magic of Yo Gabba Gabba to help me.
I'm all about moderation - we try to give our oldest no more than 30 minutes of TV each day (most days she doesn't get any - we don't have cable). I try very hard to get my mom to keep her limited as well. I believe that kids benefit most from free play and from face-to-face interaction and I definitely don't support sitting children in front of the tv for hours because it is "easier."
Oh please, if this was about rice cereal in bottles or forward facing car seats I doubt that would be your response.
You just proved my point... most people wouldn't take the time to read that whole article. They would take the article as saying "TV causes ADD" and not consider the limitations of the study. I work in medical and health education so I read these articles all the time that say A is associated with B and so on, but that is all it is: a correlation that can mean absolutely nothing. Until there is a study that shows cause and effect, pointing out articles like these just gives people the wrong information.
so pointing out the facts gives people the wrong info because they are too dumb to understand it or too lazy to read it? Thats sad.
What do you suggest people do? If you say "studies show that there is a correlation between tv before age 2 and X" people won't believe you without the studies....but you say linking the studies is wrong.
So what is your point; that association is meaningless? And you work in education? By that logic we should ignore every recommendation put out to reduce the risk of SIDS, because there has not been one study that definitively proves the cause.
I also love the logic that we should suppress information because people won't take the time to read. Awesome.
IMO there is nothing wrong with allowing your LO to watch tv in moderation and of course programming that is age appropriate. DS watches probably 1 hour in total of tv per day and that does not include the 30 minute "movie time" we do every night as part of his bedtime routine - that is a Baby Einstein DVD that he loves.
Wow, apparently TV time is a very touchy subject that turns half of us into smug a-holes.
And stop with the spelling critiques. What a joke. How well one can spell has absolutely nothing to do with general intelligence. But it does make you look like a huge biiiiiiiiiit*h for pointing it out.
Oh good Lord - I love how Bumpies tend to have long, but selective memories. I NEVER said (even remotely) that I was against vaccinations.
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