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Emjay221 · July 2010

You guys are clearly blind. I was the first one to come to her defense. And have never said anything negative. I also never said anyone was bitchy. More like beating a dead horse saying the same thing 30 times.

Take your hormones and take a hike. I have important things to do today, and this is at the bottom of the list. I'm done.

I wonder how long till I see the famous "Emjay is a meanie" thread pop up.

noah-bear · July 2010

Emjay221:
You guys are clearly blind. I was the first one to come to her defense. And have never said anything negative. I also never said anyone was bitchy. More like beating a dead horse saying the same thing 30 times.
Take your hormones and take a hike. I have important things to do today, and this is at the bottom of the list. I'm done.
I wonder how long till I see the famous "Emjay is a meanie" thread pop up.

Now I'm going to go ahead and tell you to fvck off. Hormones aren't doing jack shlt here. You are. You are the one beating a horse and you're the one who wont STFU.

Scout05 · July 2010

Emjay221:

You guys are clearly blind. I was the first one to come to her defense. And have never said anything negative. I also never said anyone was bitchy. More like beating a dead horse saying the same thing 30 times.

Take your hormones and take a hike. I have important things to do today, and this is at the bottom of the list. I'm done.

I wonder how long till I see the famous "Emjay is a meanie" thread pop up.

:::Waits for her thirty-seven post "I have better things to do and I'm done" replies:::

And I'm not hormonal, I'm annoyed with you. It is possible to be annoyed without gestating, you know.

But you won't reply, I'm sure. Because, you're over this. Right?

PinkLove-S · July 2010

No m/c here but a girl i work with just found out at her 12 week appt that her baby stopped growing at 9weeks. The did not have major cramps or bleeding too bad. She just started spotting and that was about it until she went to her appt only to find out she m/c.

Just like in pregnancy, the symptoms are not the same for everyone. A loss of symptoms over a few days should be no alarm but if you are worried, call your doctor.

TeacherVicky · July 2010

I'm sorry for the feelings of worry you are having. First off, I don't think your post is insensitive or out of line at all. I remember when I went through my m/c, I wanted to know what others had experienced.

When I did m/c, I started spotting (brown) from 3 days after my BFP. After seeing my dr (several times) and having my betas drawn (which weren't exactly doubling but were going up pretty well), my m/c was confirmed almost 3 weeks later at the ER. I never really had any pg symptoms and the cramping didn't start until my body actually started to miscarry, 3 days after the hospital confirmed that the pg wasn't viable.

That being said, I have 5 friends IRL that have suffered from a missed m/c - one of them twice (no bleeding, no loss of symptoms, nothing to indicate that something was wrong). So I don't believe they are that uncommon.

If you are really concerned and really can't wait until your appt (because I know how anxiety kicks in 110%), I would call the dr's office or go to the ER. Good luck and I hope everything is progressing well for you.

ETA: Sorry - I read your OP again and noticed that you didn't say you were actually bleeding. I don't know why (after reading all the responses), I thought you said you were bleeding and so I mentioned going to the ER.

Now I would just say that if you are worried, call your Dr. Good luck again.

shouldbworkin · July 2010

Your title is not offensive at all. It would be in a MC/PL forum, so thank you for having the sense not to post it there. Asking women who have been PG before and may have experienced a loss, is acceptable to me.

FWIW, my symptoms disappeared around 6 weeks. I started spotting brown a couple days later and m/c the next day after red bleeding started. I kind of knew something was off the whole PG, I just felt too good (it wasn't my first PG, so it was easier to tell, yet I was still hoping I was just one of those lucky women who didn't feel like crap).

I hope you're just having a good day and your symptoms will come back full force tomorrow. GL!

gwenypher7 · July 2010

My m/c included cramping and blood, but you can also have a missed m/c or a blighted ovum - in which case you would learn about it from an u/s.

If it makes you feel a little better, my pg symptoms have come and gone for the past several weeks. Some days your body does not react as strongly to the HCG, or you may just not notice the symptoms as much. This is completely normal. Please remember that there is NOTHING you can do to prevent/stop a miscarriage - it is not your fault. And to be scared of it happening is completely normal, Chances are very likely that you are going to see a healthy little baby on Weds, but know that if you don't, you will get through it.

daisy142 · July 2010

cutebride73:
OP - for me losing my symptoms was a sign, but when I asked about it other people told me not to worry that symptoms coming and going is normal. So I guess there is no exact right answer, in my case though it was a sign. Neither time did I have bleeding first - one m/c was confirmed by my betas not doubling and one by no hb on an u/s.

I would say without a doubt though that both times I *knew* something wasn't right. Maybe it was intuition, I don't know. I think when you've had a loss before you are more sensitive to everything and your fear is heightened, so you were fine to ask about this here.

I hope that everything turns out okay for you. (hugs)

Same here. This was my first pregnancy and I worried a lot when my symptoms started to lessen but it was easily explained as I was nearing the end of the 1st tri. I never had any bleeding or cramps, just news at the NT scan that the heartbeat was gone. Loss of symptoms can be a sign of m/c but it's also common in a perfectly healthy pregnancy - it's a scary thing, I know. I hope everything is fine and your u/s eases your mind!

rvandiver0705 · July 2010

Reallynervous83:
rvandiver0705:
Your title is honestly kind of offensive; in fact the whole post kind of is. You've has a day or two with less symptoms and you want people to compare notes with you on how their babies died? You would have been better off just either posting about your nerves or asking about your changes in your symptoms.
Yeah I realize this offended YOU, when you tried all of 3 months to get pregnant. I have suffered loss, I have suffered infertility and yet I have always been willingly to help others figure out what they are going through. I think you are out of line posting something was offensive, when you have suffered nothing baby related.
Thanks for all of those who helped. I guess it's just a waiting game. Thanks again for your willingness to answer my post.

You are an idiot. I've had a miscarriage in 2005, and I've had an incredibly stressful pregnancy full of bleeding and cramps. I also have Crohn's disease, which is aggravated by my morning sickness. I stand by my statement that asking people who have suffered a loss to "come on in" Bob Barker style is offensive, and that there were better ways that you could have asked your questions.

izzourclue · July 2010

I m/c'd at 5 1/2 weeks with my first pregnancy. Spotting was my first clue. And thinking back, I had woken up that morning with loss of breast tenderness and loss of the fullness. But I did start spotting that day. I also did not have any pain or cramps and the bleeding never really got any heavier than spotting. I spotted for about 7 days. I think m/c symptoms depend a lot on how far along you are. Also, I agree with PP, symptoms come and go. Some mornings I don't feel pregnant at all and in the evening, the boobs start to hurt again and the bloat comes back. I hope everything is ok for you.

MrsTotty · July 2010

::totty scribbles down EmJays name on her -sideeye- list::

You might be even more of an AW than I am.

And thats saying a lot ...

thatlauragirl · July 2010

OP, I just wanted to encourage you that the loss of symptoms may be perfectly normal. I went through the same thing early in this pregnancy but when I went for an appointment both of my babies were thriving at that point.

Conversely, when I did lose one of my babies it was a missed miscarriage and I had no idea until we went to an appointment and found out that my cervix was open and I was starting to pass tissue. I didn't start bleeding until about a week after that.

I don't want to freak you out about the missed miscarriage, but just wanted to confirm it's just impossible to know without going to the doctor. You might find that the pregnancy symptoms come and go throughout the pregnancy, but all is well.

Best of luck to you!!!

Reallynervous83 · July 2010

rvandiver0705:
Reallynervous83:

rvandiver0705:
Your title is honestly kind of offensive; in fact the whole post kind of is. You've has a day or two with less symptoms and you want people to compare notes with you on how their babies died? You would have been better off just either posting about your nerves or asking about your changes in your symptoms.

Yeah I realize this offended YOU, when you tried all of 3 months to get pregnant. I have suffered loss, I have suffered infertility and yet I have always been willingly to help others figure out what they are going through. I think you are out of line posting something was offensive, when you have suffered nothing baby related.

Thanks for all of those who helped. I guess it's just a waiting game. Thanks again for your willingness to answer my post.

You are an idiot. I've had a miscarriage in 2005, and I've had an incredibly stressful pregnancy full of bleeding and cramps. I also have Crohn's disease, which is aggravated by my morning sickness. I stand by my statement that asking people who have suffered a loss to "come on in" Bob Barker style is offensive, and that there were better ways that you could have asked your questions.

My suggestions is to calm down. I also have Crohns...hasn't been bothered at all by the m/s, only thing that bothers it, is I can no longer take the drugs that control it. Everyone else was just fine with it. I am sorry for your loss, but according to your sig only three months of trying. So back off unless you can be helpful like these other awesome ladies are. My title was 1. Posted on 1st trimester where people are pregnant and 2. No one has to reply if they don't want to. 3. All the other ladies understood the nervousness and anxiousness because they have gone through it and were strong enough and thoughtful enough to respond to someone else who is anxious and worried. So go critize some other titles. Or maybe read all the supportive posts and ask yourself if your crazy.

Reallynervous83 · July 2010

Once again...thank you to all the ladies that posted, it has made me feel better or at least made me realize that there is absolutely nothing I can do. I'll leave it to the man upstairs and I hope that if anything does happen I have the strength of the ladies that posted here. Thank you all once again.

rvandiver0705 · July 2010

Reallynervous83:
rvandiver0705:
Reallynervous83:

rvandiver0705:
Your title is honestly kind of offensive; in fact the whole post kind of is. You've has a day or two with less symptoms and you want people to compare notes with you on how their babies died? You would have been better off just either posting about your nerves or asking about your changes in your symptoms.
Yeah I realize this offended YOU, when you tried all of 3 months to get pregnant. I have suffered loss, I have suffered infertility and yet I have always been willingly to help others figure out what they are going through. I think you are out of line posting something was offensive, when you have suffered nothing baby related.
Thanks for all of those who helped. I guess it's just a waiting game. Thanks again for your willingness to answer my post.
You are an idiot. I've had a miscarriage in 2005, and I've had an incredibly stressful pregnancy full of bleeding and cramps. I also have Crohn's disease, which is aggravated by my morning sickness. I stand by my statement that asking people who have suffered a loss to "come on in" Bob Barker style is offensive, and that there were better ways that you could have asked your questions.

My suggestions is to calm down. I also have Crohns...hasn't been bothered at all by the m/s, only thing that bothers it, is I can no longer take the drugs that control it. Everyone else was just fine with it. I am sorry for your loss, but according to your sig only three months of trying. So back off unless you can be helpful like these other awesome ladies are. My title was 1. Posted on 1st trimester where people are pregnant and 2. No one has to reply if they don't want to. 3. All the other ladies understood the nervousness and anxiousness because they have gone through it and were strong enough and thoughtful enough to respond to someone else who is anxious and worried. So go critize some other titles. Or maybe read all the supportive posts and ask yourself if your crazy.

Oh grow up. I told you that I thought you said something rude. Stop letting it end your world. Be happy that other people didn't think it was rude, and answered your questions.

Also, just because I don't have a mile long siggy detailing my every bowel movement doesn't mean that I don't have a history. So just keep on worrying about my "3 months" and enjoy that ride on your high horse. Congrats that your Crohn's isn't bothering you, since that obviously means that since it isn't bothering you it isn't affecting me.

StephieLM · July 2010

I had blood...then one day later all of my symptoms vanished. My boobs didn't hurt an ounce...

GL

lildevil968 · July 2010

There is not always blood. I had a really tiny amount of light pink spotting when I found out about my M/C at 10 wks. The baby had stopped growing at 6 wks. My symptoms did disappear, but then again they did with all 3 pregnancies, so I really don't think it is anything to worry about. They might just come back with a vengence!

Mrs.Albie · July 2010

MrsTotty:

::totty scribbles down EmJays name on her -sideeye- list::

You might be even more of an AW than I am.

And thats saying a lot ...

::gigglesnort:: I've been lurking around here lately and have noticed the same thing.

Reallynervous83 · July 2010

rvandiver0705:
Reallynervous83:
rvandiver0705:
Reallynervous83:

rvandiver0705:
Your title is honestly kind of offensive; in fact the whole post kind of is. You've has a day or two with less symptoms and you want people to compare notes with you on how their babies died? You would have been better off just either posting about your nerves or asking about your changes in your symptoms.

Yeah I realize this offended YOU, when you tried all of 3 months to get pregnant. I have suffered loss, I have suffered infertility and yet I have always been willingly to help others figure out what they are going through. I think you are out of line posting something was offensive, when you have suffered nothing baby related.

Thanks for all of those who helped. I guess it's just a waiting game. Thanks again for your willingness to answer my post.

You are an idiot. I've had a miscarriage in 2005, and I've had an incredibly stressful pregnancy full of bleeding and cramps. I also have Crohn's disease, which is aggravated by my morning sickness. I stand by my statement that asking people who have suffered a loss to "come on in" Bob Barker style is offensive, and that there were better ways that you could have asked your questions.

My suggestions is to calm down. I also have Crohns...hasn't been bothered at all by the m/s, only thing that bothers it, is I can no longer take the drugs that control it. Everyone else was just fine with it. I am sorry for your loss, but according to your sig only three months of trying. So back off unless you can be helpful like these other awesome ladies are. My title was 1. Posted on 1st trimester where people are pregnant and 2. No one has to reply if they don't want to. 3. All the other ladies understood the nervousness and anxiousness because they have gone through it and were strong enough and thoughtful enough to respond to someone else who is anxious and worried. So go critize some other titles. Or maybe read all the supportive posts and ask yourself if your crazy.

Oh grow up. I told you that I thought you said something rude. Stop letting it end your world. Be happy that other people didn't think it was rude, and answered your questions.

Also, just because I don't have a mile long siggy detailing my every bowel movement doesn't mean that I don't have a history. So just keep on worrying about my "3 months" and enjoy that ride on your high horse. Congrats that your Crohn's isn't bothering you, since that obviously means that since it isn't bothering you it isn't affecting me.

Calm down...your right out of the 20 or so who posted only you thought it was rude...but there is always one. Congrats on being THAT person. So calm down. If it was ending my world, I would let you know. I just find you funny because it's so easy to get under your skin....so flame on :-) I need some laughs.

rvandiver0705 · July 2010

Reallynervous83:
Calm down...your right out of the 20 or so who posted only you thought it was rude...but there is always one. Congrats on being THAT person. So calm down. If it was ending my world, I would let you know. I just find you funny because it's so easy to get under your skin....so flame on :-) I need some laughs.

It is spelled "you're".

Reallynervous83 · July 2010

wow..now you're reaching...but thanks for continuing my fun! Come on you can do better then that Stick out tongue

grr_aargh · July 2010

Emjay221:
Also I think you're not giving most women enough credit to think they can't handle tickers. I never minded while I was trying to conceive after repeated losses. But the "am I, aren't I" might have been an issue.

Um. Yeah. I have no idea what it's like to be on MC/PL and see someone come over with an "Am I miscarrying" post. . .

Not giving them enough credit? Dude, I still kind of have a hard time with tickers and I have one.

Emjay221 · July 2010

grr_aargh:

Um. Yeah. I have no idea what it's like to be on MC/PL and see someone come over with an "Am I miscarrying" post. . .

Not giving them enough credit? Dude, I still kind of have a hard time with tickers and I have one.

You're right, because I never set foot in a forum after either of mine because I found it even more depressing to read 300 tales of M/C. Every day. We all handle it differently, and I didn't use a forum.

As far as your statement: "Not giving them enough credit? Dude, I still kind of have a hard time with tickers and I have one. "

Then maybe you should look for professional help. Dude.

grr_aargh · July 2010

Reallynervous83:
Once again...thank you to all the ladies that posted, it has made me feel better or at least made me realize that there is absolutely nothing I can do. I'll leave it to the man upstairs and I hope that if anything does happen I have the strength of the ladies that posted here. Thank you all once again.

I'm glad you've gotten a good number of stories and some support here. And I wish you luck on Wednesday at your ultrasound.

grr_aargh · July 2010

Emjay221:
Then maybe you should look for professional help. Dude.

N/M.

Not worth my time.

But I will say this: if you don't think 4 miscarriages in 12 months are grounds for permanent psychic damage, you're a fool.

Emjay221 · July 2010

grr_aargh:

Emjay221:
Then maybe you should look for professional help. Dude.

N/M.

Not worth my time.

But I will say this: if you don't think 4 miscarriages in 12 months are grounds for permanent psychic damage, you're a fool.

You deleted your post telling me to go to hell. Why? There is nothing wrong with me suggesting you could use some therapy.

And if you have permanent "psychic" damage... (fail... btw) then you should seek help. I've had my losses too. 2 in 12 months, but whatever.

So yeah, that's what PSYCHOLOGICAL help is for... unless you prefer psychic help... than maybe you can call the psychic hotline.

Scout05 · July 2010

Emjay221:

grr_aargh:

Um. Yeah. I have no idea what it's like to be on MC/PL and see someone come over with an "Am I miscarrying" post. . .

Not giving them enough credit? Dude, I still kind of have a hard time with tickers and I have one.

You're right, because I never set foot in a forum after either of mine because I found it even more depressing to read 300 tales of M/C. Every day. We all handle it differently, and I didn't use a forum.

As far as your statement: "Not giving them enough credit? Dude, I still kind of have a hard time with tickers and I have one. "

Then maybe you should look for professional help. Dude.

You are a fvcking piece of work.

Way to take a thread about someone's legit concerns and make it all about you. And then top it off with a douchebag statement like this.

How about, "I'm sorry for your loss, and that it is still painful for you."

I guess you would just choke on a statement of reason and compassion, huh? I have never seen a more defensive, clueless and unappealing poster on this site. And good lord, is that saying something.

Emjay221 · July 2010

Oh darn. Break time is over. Guess I can't read your reply till later. Too bad I'm not psychic because then I wouldn't need to log in. LOL.

Firedancer1013 · July 2010

rvandiver0705:
Reallynervous83:
Calm down...your right out of the 20 or so who posted only you thought it was rude...but there is always one. Congrats on being THAT person. So calm down. If it was ending my world, I would let you know. I just find you funny because it's so easy to get under your skin....so flame on :-) I need some laughs.
It is spelled "you're".

lol I think it is sad because the your/you're differentiation is the only thing that has bothered me so far about this post! (Coming from the girl who can't spell hemorrhoid, wait, did I get it right that time??) :0)

Scout05 · July 2010

Emjay221:
Oh darn. Break time is over. Guess I can't read your reply till later. Too bad I'm not psychic because then I wouldn't need to log in. LOL.

Let' see:

EmJay says something rude and off base, then declares she is too busy to keep commenting.

Emjay comes back right away to say something else rude and off base, and then declares she has patients waiting and that she is DONE with this thread.

Emjay comes back to say something else rude and off base, and then her break is over and she has to get back to her important lyfe....

:::This is the song that doesn't end. Yes it goes on and on my friends:::

See in you twenty for another twattastic diatribe!

But after that, I am so sure you will be done for good. What with what a VIP you are, and all.

MrsTotty · July 2010

ambrandau2:

You are a fvcking piece of work.
Way to take a thread about someone's legit concerns and make it all about you. And then top it off with a douchebag statement like this.
How about, "I'm sorry for your loss, and that it is still painful for you."
I guess you would just choke on a statement of reason and compassion, huh? I have never seen a more defensive, clueless and unappealing poster on this site. And good lord, is that saying something.

Yup.

babygirlpriest · July 2010

ambrandau2:

Emjay221:
Oh darn. Break time is over. Guess I can't read your reply till later. Too bad I'm not psychic because then I wouldn't need to log in. LOL.

Let' see:

EmJay says something rude and off base, then declares she is too busy to keep commenting.

Emjay comes back right away to say something else rude and off base, and then declares she has patients waiting and that she is DONE with this thread.

Emjay comes back to say something else rude and off base, and then her break is over and she has to get back to her important lyfe....

:::This is the song that doesn't end. Yes it goes on and on my friends:::

See in you twenty for another twattastic diatribe!

But after that, I am so sure you will be done for good. What with what a VIP you are, and all.

THIS!

Just a heads-up Emjay... you're kinda a douche.

Reallynervous83 · July 2010

Firedancer1013:
rvandiver0705:

Reallynervous83:

Calm down...your right out of the 20 or so who posted only you thought it was rude...but there is always one. Congrats on being THAT person. So calm down. If it was ending my world, I would let you know. I just find you funny because it's so easy to get under your skin....so flame on :-) I need some laughs.

It is spelled "you're".

lol I think it is sad because the your/you're differentiation is the only thing that has bothered me so far about this post! (Coming from the girl who can't spell hemorrhoid, wait, did I get it right that time??) :0)

Yep, she went back to the February board to be coddled over there because she got picked on here.

ColindaP · July 2010

Emjay221:

And if you have permanent "psychic" damage... (fail... btw) then you should seek help. I've had my losses too. 2 in 12 months, but whatever.

So yeah, that's what PSYCHOLOGICAL help is for... unless you prefer psychic help... than maybe you can call the psychic hotline.

Oh no, EmJay, grr_argh was not a fail. You, however, are failing at comprehending the morphology of the English language.

Psychic: an adjective sharing a root with the noun psyche, meaning relating to the psyche.

Nice try, but you'd be better off not trying to correct the English of, um, an English professor.

carebear08 · July 2010

I had 3 early miscarriages, and there was only blood with one of them. The others I found out at my u/s. I understand the fear of m/c, but try to relax and enjoy each day of your pregnancy.

rvandiver0705 · July 2010

Reallynervous83:
Firedancer1013:
rvandiver0705:

Reallynervous83:
Calm down...your right out of the 20 or so who posted only you thought it was rude...but there is always one. Congrats on being THAT person. So calm down. If it was ending my world, I would let you know. I just find you funny because it's so easy to get under your skin....so flame on :-) I need some laughs.
It is spelled "you're".

lol I think it is sad because the your/you're differentiation is the only thing that has bothered me so far about this post! (Coming from the girl who can't spell hemorrhoid, wait, did I get it right that time??) :0)
Yep, she went back to the February board to be coddled over there because she got picked on here.

Bite me. Big Smile Maybe I just got sick of your immature responses and went and spoke to some adults that I enjoy. Which I will go do again, since they are a group of lovely ladies. Enjoy attacking me due to the fact that I had a *gasp* opinion!

grr_aargh · July 2010

ColindaP:
Emjay221:

And if you have permanent "psychic" damage... (fail... btw) then you should seek help. I've had my losses too. 2 in 12 months, but whatever.

So yeah, that's what PSYCHOLOGICAL help is for... unless you prefer psychic help... than maybe you can call the psychic hotline.

Oh no, EmJay, grr_argh was not a fail. You, however, are failing at comprehending the morphology of the English language.

Psychic: an adjective sharing a root with the noun psyche, meaning relating to the psyche.

Nice try, but you'd be better off not trying to correct the English of, um, an English professor.

You are so hot.

I love you.

(And Ambrandau. And you, BGP).

(Also, while psychological help is nice, it does very little to repair the permanent psychic damage of losing 4 pregnancies in one year. Additionally, you'll know that when one places the word psychic in front of a noun, it is not a NOUN meaning definition #6, it is an adjective - a word meant to modify a noun - this indicating that the damage I have occured fit with definitions 1-5 of the word - particularly the spiritual concept. I am not emotionally bereft, I am permanently changed. Part of that permanent change, for me, is a difficulty in seeing tickers at or around the EDDs that would have been mine. But I think Colinda covered this already. I know you're an important person with important things to do, so I'm glad that those of us familiar with the English language could clarify for you.)

(Oh, and smooches!)

Emjay221 · July 2010

You know damn well and good that she just used the wrong word. She meant psychological. But in her hormonal pair of ***-pants, she couldn't compose a fully functional thought.

I don't think you're an English professor, anymore than I think I'm a doctor.

Now Miss GRRRR is trying to act like she meant to use the word psychic...

You guys are even more pathetic than I ever thought.

GET HELP!!! And damn the psychological help... you need meds. Get psychiatric intervention.

Scout05 · July 2010

Emjay221:

You know damn well and good that she just used the wrong word. She meant psychological. But in her hormonal pair of ***-pants, she couldn't compose a fully functional thought.

I don't think you're an English professor, anymore than I think I'm a doctor.

Now Miss GRRRR is trying to act like she meant to use the word psychic...

You guys are even more pathetic than I ever thought.

GET HELP!!! And damn the psychological help... you need meds. Get psychiatric intervention.

You're right. Colinda is not an English Professor.

Grr is.

FAIL.

3ltlones · July 2010

ambrandau2:
Emjay221:

You know damn well and good that she just used the wrong word. She meant psychological. But in her hormonal pair of ***-pants, she couldn't compose a fully functional thought.
I don't think you're an English professor, anymore than I think I'm a doctor.
Now Miss GRRRR is trying to act like she meant to use the word psychic...
You guys are even more pathetic than I ever thought.
GET HELP!!! And damn the psychological help... you need meds. Get psychiatric intervention.
You're right. Colinda is not an English Professor.
Grr is.
FAIL.

ah, yes, major FAIL

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