My OU: get your torches ready

MrsAJL · July 2010

Jolaine83:
Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

CalMum_Momma · July 2010

IrishBrideND:
Jolaine83:

walkerkeli:
All I have to say is that maybe you should identify people by the color of their shirts anyway, not just because you are afraid of being called a racist. You probably wouldn't say "the white employee behind the service desk", would you? No. It's like when my grandmother called the other day to tell me about a black woman she met at a garage sale, who she felt it was necessary to point out "seemed well spoken and actually well educated". She would not have pointed out these characteristics if the woman had been white...just saying.

True, but then I heard a very wise person say (unfortunately, can't remember who) that ignoring a persons race was as silly as ignoring a handicapped person wheelchair.

Not saying that race = that wheel chair, but that they are both things that are there and shouldn't be ignored. They are European, African, Asian, Mexican, etc. It's part of who they are. The trick is to not judge them for that but to recognize it and realize that it's merely part of their identity, not the whole of it.

And I would say the white person behind the service desk if they were a minority and thus an easy way to quickly identify the person. Nobody should be afraid of what color they are or what color anyone else is. It's a fact, not a judgment forced upon them. (The only exception is in cases where you call a latino a hispanic, etc. - then you are assuming their heirtage.)

No one is saying pretend they aren't X. You are missing the point.

So if you were to meet my husband, you'd think of him as that "one legged guy?"

And she would be respecting him because she is acknowledging his handicap, but not judging him...according to her argument.

CalMum_Momma · July 2010

IrishBrideND:
Jolaine83:

walkerkeli:
All I have to say is that maybe you should identify people by the color of their shirts anyway, not just because you are afraid of being called a racist. You probably wouldn't say "the white employee behind the service desk", would you? No. It's like when my grandmother called the other day to tell me about a black woman she met at a garage sale, who she felt it was necessary to point out "seemed well spoken and actually well educated". She would not have pointed out these characteristics if the woman had been white...just saying.

True, but then I heard a very wise person say (unfortunately, can't remember who) that ignoring a persons race was as silly as ignoring a handicapped person wheelchair.

Not saying that race = that wheel chair, but that they are both things that are there and shouldn't be ignored. They are European, African, Asian, Mexican, etc. It's part of who they are. The trick is to not judge them for that but to recognize it and realize that it's merely part of their identity, not the whole of it.

And I would say the white person behind the service desk if they were a minority and thus an easy way to quickly identify the person. Nobody should be afraid of what color they are or what color anyone else is. It's a fact, not a judgment forced upon them. (The only exception is in cases where you call a latino a hispanic, etc. - then you are assuming their heirtage.)

No one is saying pretend they aren't X. You are missing the point.

So if you were to meet my husband, you'd think of him as that "one legged guy?"

And she would be respecting him because she is acknowledging his handicap, but not judging him...according to her argument.

happilyhis · July 2010

carney09:
happilyhis:
epphd:

My take is that the incidence, severity, and consequence of discrimination against white people is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the incidence, severity and consequences of discrimination against black people as to hardly be worth mentioning. Seriously. Black people are more likely to experience discrimination mutliple times in a single day, whereas a white person can probably count on one hand (or even finger) the number of times they have been discriminated against in a lifetime.

That was a lot more eloquent than how I said it, but basically, this.

I think I kinda agree with this, but not fully. I don't think it means it can't be mentioned because it wasn't "as bad" as what black people have endured. They should not be compared, no. I agree with that. But it doesn't mean it can't be a point of discussion and upset people, of any color.

Yeah, if you go back to my original statement, that's what I said. Wrong is wrong, but let's not pretend it's apples to apples.

carney09 · July 2010

Yeah, if you go back to my original statement, that's what I said. Wrong is wrong, but let's not pretend it's apples to apples

fully agree. its never going to be apples to apples. ever.

Temp534591562502098 · July 2010

someone called me cracker once and it hurt! Crying

Temp534591562502098 · July 2010

majorwife:
happilyhis:
carney09:
happilyhis:
epphd:

My take is that the incidence, severity, and consequence of discrimination against white people is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the incidence, severity and consequences of discrimination against black people as to hardly be worth mentioning. Seriously. Black people are more likely to experience discrimination mutliple times in a single day, whereas a white person can probably count on one hand (or even finger) the number of times they have been discriminated against in a lifetime.

That was a lot more eloquent than how I said it, but basically, this.

I think I kinda agree with this, but not fully. I don't think it means it can't be mentioned because it wasn't "as bad" as what black people have endured. They should not be compared, no. I agree with that. But it doesn't mean it can't be a point of discussion and upset people, of any color.

Yeah, if you go back to my original statement, that's what I said. Wrong is wrong, but let's not pretend it's apples to apples.
Ditto. It's comparing apples to firetrucks when both are shiity

Will: Do you like apples?
Clark: Yeah.
Will: Well, I got her number. How do you like them apples?

Jolaine83 · July 2010

mrsbecky07:
Jolaine83:
talltalltrees:

You are defending Hitler and complaining of how white people are victims of racism in the same post?

I really have no words.

Read it again. I was not defending Hitler. Dear God. I was saying that he took advantage of a minority and turned them into a racist majority. And few remember they were ever a minority to begin with.

I still don't understand what Hitler has to do with this, especially b/c that's not what you said to begin with....you said something to the effect of "and we all know who will forever be remembered as 'evil.'" Yup, they will be forever remembered as evil. Why were the quotes necessary? The implication in your statement was that they SHOULDN'T be remembered as evil.......

Also, in your scenario - who are the Germans and who are the Jews? Do you think black people in America are going to rise up and oppress white people? That's a serious question - b/c that's kind of the only thing I can gather from the Hitler/Germany references.

No, that's not what I was saying. I guess I should've tried to explain myself better earlier on. My point was that the german people were victims of prejudice and racism (I use that word although it had nothing to do with their skin color and everything with their nationality) for hundreds of years. They then turned around and did that to other people after Hitler convinced them they were the supreme race. They reversed the racism onto others and it led the holocaust because of it. My comparison is that they felt justified to be racist since their people had been subjects of it for so many years.

I'm not saying I'm afraid of being oppressed. I'm just saying that it's just as racist to assume I'm a racist because I'm white. And that racism is racism no matter what color the aggressor is and what color the victim is.

mitchelltheojua · July 2010

Jolaine83:
mitchelltheojua:
Jolaine83:
mitchelltheojua:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UU6m3cqk
ya'll crack me up
Okay, my son loved that but was there a point? You want us to know that you are laughing at us? Why not give us constructive insight, instead? I'm assuming you are looking at this from a different POV if it's that funny to you.
I don't mean to be rude ... but honestly, that was my first reaction ... I really appologize for coming across in an ugly way ... but I just ... wow ... I have taught multicultural counseling courses at a large university for some time to undergraduate and masters students ... I recently left my position as a tenure track faculty member and now a SAHM. I just ... yeah ...
Again, sorry for coming across that way ... it was coming from a place of "wow" ... but that's it ... carry on ...
Okay, no biggie. The video was cute though! I'm saving it to try to get DS out of tantrums. I'm hoping the sound of another baby giggling with work.
But I am honestly interested in your opinion. You come from a different POV. I didn't post this to start a war, just a discussion. If I'm wrong somewhere, point it out! You might convince me otherwise.

Honestly, I don't have the energy ... this discussion is an EXTREME oversimplification of something that is so complicated, multifaceted, hurtful, emotional, "forever" old and unfortunately just as relevant today as it ever was ... from my perspective, its not only about our "lay" feelings so to speak ... the emotional part but we'd have to have a discussion about the statistics ... the reality ... the numbers that don't lie in order to "get it right" so to speak ... its like discussing aerodynamics, molecular biology, breaking down the speed of light, etc. without really having any idea about what it truly is ... just sorta basing it on my "feelings" ... what I think it is ... what I've heard, what others have said, etc. So, because of that, I bow out ... but I applaud everyone for taking on this difficult topic.

Jolaine83 · July 2010

happilyhis:
epphd:

My take is that the incidence, severity, and consequence of discrimination against white people is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the incidence, severity and consequences of discrimination against black people as to hardly be worth mentioning. Seriously. Black people are more likely to experience discrimination mutliple times in a single day, whereas a white person can probably count on one hand (or even finger) the number of times they have been discriminated against in a lifetime.

That was a lot more eloquent than how I said it, but basically, this.

True and my point is that it isn't right for either side.

Temp534591562502098 · July 2010

Jolaine83:
mrsbecky07:
Jolaine83:
talltalltrees:

You are defending Hitler and complaining of how white people are victims of racism in the same post?

I really have no words.

Read it again. I was not defending Hitler. Dear God. I was saying that he took advantage of a minority and turned them into a racist majority. And few remember they were ever a minority to begin with.

I still don't understand what Hitler has to do with this, especially b/c that's not what you said to begin with....you said something to the effect of "and we all know who will forever be remembered as 'evil.'" Yup, they will be forever remembered as evil. Why were the quotes necessary? The implication in your statement was that they SHOULDN'T be remembered as evil.......

Also, in your scenario - who are the Germans and who are the Jews? Do you think black people in America are going to rise up and oppress white people? That's a serious question - b/c that's kind of the only thing I can gather from the Hitler/Germany references.
No, that's not what I was saying. I guess I should've tried to explain myself better earlier on. My point was that the german people were victims of prejudice and racism (I use that word although it had nothing to do with their skin color and everything with their nationality) for hundreds of years. They then turned around and did that to other people after Hitler convinced them they were the supreme race. They reversed the racism onto others and it led the holocaust because of it. My comparison is that they felt justified to be racist since their people had been subjects of it for so many years.
I'm not saying I'm afraid of being oppressed. I'm just saying that it's just as racist to assume I'm a racist because I'm white. And that racism is racism no matter what color the aggressor is and what color the victim is.

History lesson FAIL.

smock.smock · July 2010

Jolaine83:
Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

You obviously know very little about history.

happilyhis · July 2010

Jolaine83:
happilyhis:
epphd:

My take is that the incidence, severity, and consequence of discrimination against white people is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the incidence, severity and consequences of discrimination against black people as to hardly be worth mentioning. Seriously. Black people are more likely to experience discrimination mutliple times in a single day, whereas a white person can probably count on one hand (or even finger) the number of times they have been discriminated against in a lifetime.

That was a lot more eloquent than how I said it, but basically, this.

True and my point is that it isn't right for either side.

I think I get your point, and you sound like a really sweet person, but usually people who take the stance you're taking are racist losers, so I think your argument is suffering because of that pigeon-hole. It's all very complicated and I would probably just let it go if I was in your shoes.

epphd · July 2010

mitchelltheojua:
its like discussing aerodynamics, molecular biology, breaking down the speed of light, etc. without really having any idea about what it truly is ... just sorta basing it on my "feelings" ... what I think it is ... what I've heard, what others have said, etc.

I think this is such a great analogy.

talltalltrees · July 2010

You don't seem to understand German history very well.

You also appear to have had exactly zero conversations of any depth with a black person.

Jolaine83 · July 2010

copzgirl:
Jolaine83:

I think reverse racism is as big of a problem as old fashioned racism.

I used to be one of those people that was so afraid of being seen as racist that I would refer to someone by the color of their shirt rather than their race. i.e., The employee at the service desk with the purple shirt instead of the black employee at the service desk.

Yet I've been accused of being racist for confusing the names of two black male coworkers I barely knew (the guys thought it was funny, it was a female employee who threatened to kick my a$$ if I did it again - I was 16, she was 21.) I've been cut out of programs because I'm as exotic as swiss cheese. And I've been called racial slurs by classmates of others races because I was an easy target.

Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

I'm sorry if you've been a victim of racism, but if you are fighting back with the same attitude, you are part of the problem. Love who you are, accept others for who they are and hope that others follow your example.

*off my soap box* - this was inspired by the post about FB below

this is one of the most obnoxious post's I have ever seen...congratulations

Thanks. I put myself out there over a difficult subject because I feel it shouldn't just be ignored because it makes others feel uncomfortable. I've probably made myself as bad as Diane and it took a lot of guts for me to write this. And I'm not sorry I did it even if it was taken the wrong way.

What the hell have you done to put yourself out there? Or are you just here to comment on others?

talltalltrees · July 2010

Jolaine83:
I've been cut out of programs because I'm as exotic as swiss cheese.

I would love to know specifics about this. What programs were you cut out of for being white?

mrsbecky07 · July 2010

Ditto Sug and TTT.....I think you are misunderstanding what led to the Holocaust and World War II, or at the very least oversimplifying to the extreme.

No one here is saying its okay for a black person to be racist - it's not - but b/c one girl at Target or wherever yelled at you doesn't really make you a victim of reverse racism. Maybe she was just a biitch.

Jolaine83 · July 2010

Okay, ladies, I enjoyed this - honestly - even if you did think I was a nightmare, an idiot, a whiny white girl, whatever. My point was that it was an unpopular opinion and I knew I'd get flammed to hell for it. But I learned something and I feel better for at least getting some opinions, either way.

I'm not going to keep responding for a while because I'm going to be truly tortured at the dentist. It's not because I sulked away in shame. But I'll probably respond more later. I think this is something that should be talked about more. Maybe there would be less racism if we understood all sides a little better.

EliseB0323 · July 2010

So you are sympathizing with the Nazis? That's something you don't see everyday.

mrsbecky07 · July 2010

EliseB0323:
So you are sympathizing with the Nazis? That's something you don't see everyday.

you know, victims of racism and all that.

meshaliu · July 2010

Jolaine83:
I've been cut out of programs because I'm as exotic as swiss cheese.

Do you know this for a fact? How do you know other people weren't more qualified to be in those programs than you were?

In college a lot of people assumed/stated that I got into Cal b/c I'm black. No. I got into Cal b/c I had a 4.0 and I deserved to be there. Of course, my 4.0 never convinced any of those people.

smock.smock · July 2010

Jolaine83:

My point was that the german people were victims of prejudice and racism (I use that word although it had nothing to do with their skin color and everything with their nationality) for hundreds of years. They then turned around and did that to other people after Hitler convinced them they were the supreme race. They reversed the racism onto others and it led the holocaust because of it. My comparison is that they felt justified to be racist since their people had been subjects of it for so many years.

Please explain to me when the Germans were victims of prejudice and racism? Just because Germany didn't unify until 1871 does not mean they were somehow being discriminated against before that point. I'm pretty sure most Prussians were proud to be Prussians and most Bavarians were proud to be Bavarian. Are you under the mistaken impression that Germany didn't unify until the 19th century because they were being oppressed by someone? Or was it the mean ol' Holy Roman Emperor that hated Germans?

Mrs.tlcS · July 2010

You know that a whole bunch of the people the Nazis decimated were Germans, right?

smock.smock · July 2010

Mrs.tlcS:
You know that a whole bunch of the people the Nazis decimated were Germans, right?

Self-racism! A whole new can of worms!

pammi2003 · July 2010

Mrs.tlcS:
You know that a whole bunch of the people the Nazis decimated were Germans, right?

OMG.

I love your siggy so fcking much!

ablou · July 2010

happilyhis:
Jolaine83:
mitchelltheojua:

I don't mean to be rude ... but honestly, that was my first reaction ... I really appologize for coming across in an ugly way ... but I just ... wow ... I have taught multicultural counseling courses at a large university for some time to undergraduate and masters students ... I recently left my position as a tenure track faculty member and now a SAHM. I just ... yeah ...

Again, sorry for coming across that way ... it was coming from a place of "wow" ... but that's it ... carry on ...

Okay, no biggie. The video was cute though! I'm saving it to try to get DS out of tantrums. I'm hoping the sound of another baby giggling with work.

But I am honestly interested in your opinion. You come from a different POV. I didn't post this to start a war, just a discussion. If I'm wrong somewhere, point it out! You might convince me otherwise.

I can't speak for mitchelltheojua, but I can see why she laughed. I mean, I kinda, sorta get where you're trying to come from, but it just seems ridiculous to consider what you're describing as on the same level with systematic oppression, abuse, degradation and just flat-out evil directed towards people just because of who they can't even help being. If for no other reason than "reverse racism" is just too doggone new to be compared to the centuries of the traditional kind.

But I'm not mad, I get what you're saying. Wrong is wrong. But I see why it gets a chuckle from folks like mitchell and myself.

Hey, I'm laughing at the whole crazypants situation right along with y'all! And I'm whiter than milk! I haven't ever understood the whole "reverse racism" thing. I don't even know how to fathom white people talking about discrimination. Even if you get passed over for whatever. What goes around comes around, and for as much hell as white people have historically put black people through in this country, we deserve everything we get.

Life sucks, get a helmet, OP.

IrishBrideND · July 2010

meshaliu:

Jolaine83:
I've been cut out of programs because I'm as exotic as swiss cheese.

Do you know this for a fact? How do you know other people weren't more qualified to be in those programs than you were?

In college a lot of people assumed/stated that I got into Cal b/c I'm black. No. I got into Cal b/c I had a 4.0 and I deserved to be there. Of course, my 4.0 never convinced any of those people.

Well you obviously took some white person's spot. It was THEIRS!

ablou · July 2010

Jolaine83:
Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

And did anyone ever tell you that the person that brings Hitler into a debate, automatically loses?

happilyhis · July 2010

IrishBrideND:
meshaliu:

Jolaine83:
I've been cut out of programs because I'm as exotic as swiss cheese.

Do you know this for a fact? How do you know other people weren't more qualified to be in those programs than you were?

In college a lot of people assumed/stated that I got into Cal b/c I'm black. No. I got into Cal b/c I had a 4.0 and I deserved to be there. Of course, my 4.0 never convinced any of those people.

Well you obviously took some white person's spot. It was THEIRS!

LMBO!

happilyhis · July 2010

ablou:
Jolaine83:

Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

And did anyone ever tell you that the person that brings Hitler into a debate, automatically loses?

This, too. That really hurt your argument.

PittieBoo · July 2010

I suggest you enroll in a class on racism at your local college ASAP. The very fabric of this country is embedded with racism that you as a white woman know nothing about given you are part of the dominant group. Programs such as affirmative action are not "reverse racism" as you call it but are designed to help level the playing field for people not in the dominant majority.

Ignorant rants such as this are a form of racism. You would rather protect the status quo which benefits you than to accept that the world is not fair and many non-whites get shafted by institutional racism. Racism is still running rampant, though so subtely, many dare not see it or challenge it unless it directly affects them.

CalMum_Momma · July 2010

PittieBoo:

I suggest you enroll in a class on racism at your local college ASAP. The very fabric of this country is embedded with racism that you as a white woman know nothing about given you are part of the dominant group. Programs such as affirmative action are not "reverse racism" as you call it but are designed to help level the playing field for people not in the dominant majority.

Ignorant rants such as this are a form of racism. You would rather protect the status quo which benefits you than to accept that the world is not fair and many non-whites get shafted by institutional racism. Racism is still running rampant, though so subtely, many dare not see it or challenge it unless it directly affects them.

I have to comment on your point about affirmative action. Although it is designed to level the playing field, I'm not sure this is always the case. My father was a state trooper, and the passing grade required at the end of his schooling was different for people of different races. That's not "leveling the playing field" IMO, it's lowering the bar. I don't believe there should be lower standards for some people than for others. I think this practice can have the reverse effect of encouraging racism. People who know that there are different expectations may look at a trooper who is perhaps hispanic, and think that they are not as qualified to do the job, and that they got it only because of affirmative action, even if that particular trooper scored as well or better than any white trooper. The same could be said for women becoming firefighters. If they can carry the load, let them do the job. Or women becoming infnatry in the military. If they can do the job equally to men, then I say let them do it. But changing the acceptable standards for something in the name of affirmative action, I think is a questionable practice.

happilyhis · July 2010

walkerkeli:
I have to comment on your point about affirmative action. Although it is designed to level the playing field, I'm not sure this is always the case. My father was a state trooper, and the passing grade required at the end of his schooling was different for people of different races. That's not "leveling the playing field" IMO, it's lowering the bar. I don't believe there should be lower standards for some people than for others. I think this practice can have the reverse effect of encouraging racism. People who know that there are different expectations may look at a trooper who is perhaps hispanic, and think that they are not as qualified to do the job, and that they got it only because of affirmative action, even if that particular trooper scored as well or better than any white trooper. The same could be said for women becoming firefighters. If they can carry the load, let them do the job. Or women becoming infnatry in the military. If they can do the job equally to men, then I say let them do it. But changing the acceptable standards for something in the name of affirmative action, I think is a questionable practice.

That is jacked up, and not at all my understanding of what AA is supposed to be...

nattyncbride · July 2010

I am late to the game, and could not read through all the replies, but agree with those that said reverse racism is not nearly as big of a problem as 'old fashioned racism'. Yes, the overall message is: racism is any form should not be tolerated, and it's awful you were called racial slurs. But please don't clame they are the same (and if you already addressed this in another post, I apologize).

However, I do not agree with the rest of your post. I am not African-American, so I don't assume to know the racism they feel all the time (yes, even today), but as a Chinese-American, I get it too, and particularly growing up in a small town in NC. So if you have to say 'That person in the yellow shirt', get over yourself and your desire to identify by race, and consider it a small price to pay that this person does not have to be called the N name or some other derogatory name. As you may recall, this is why this all started. At one time someone might say 'That N in the yellow shirt'. I was called "Ch*ink" all the time growing up as an identifier of who I am, and yes, I do appreciate that for whatever reason, someone might think twice about saying it and just use the phrase 'That girl in the purple shirt'. You might think 'Well, I would not use that word, I would say that Chinese girl in the purple shirt', but we can't trust everyone is going to do this. And I'm going to say it: you have the luxury of being annoyed by this. There are others that are thankful everyone needs to be a little bit more careful.

bajanempress · July 2010

I thought white women have historically benefited more from AA than any other minority so I don't know why it is always brought up in race discussions. In addition the girl who yelled at the OP may have thought she was doing the all black people look the same to me and the guys may have been laughing at that. I've been mistaken for black women who look nothing like me by white people at work simply because we are both black female and geologists. It's not a great feeling.

mominatrix · July 2010

Jolaine83:
Historic bit of insight for this situation: you know the Germans, the ones who followed Hitler into one of the worst examples of racism in world history? They were victims of intolerance for hundreds of years, their country was divided up over and over again and they were left with no sense of national identity and no pride. Hitler empowered them and they decided to "fight back". And we all know which side will forever be remembered as "evil".

Two things about that...

#1:

you really need to get yourself some edumacation.

and,

#2:

mominatrix · July 2010

swimbikepuke:
I have to say, that my primary concern at this point is not that OP doesn't know WTF she is talking about (I mean, we're all on board with that right?) My primary concern is that she's a teacher. Please, please, please tell me you teach something other than history.

Christ on a Cracker! she's a teacher!!?!?!?!?!

I hope it's math or gym... please tell me it's math or gym!!!

Jolaine83 · July 2010

bajanempress:
I thought white women have historically benefited more from AA than any other minority so I don't know why it is always brought up in race discussions. In addition the girl who yelled at the OP may have thought she was doing the all black people look the same to me and the guys may have been laughing at that. I've been mistaken for black women who look nothing like me by white people at work simply because we are both black female and geologists. It's not a great feeling.

Actually that was the exact situation. Except the two guys were cousins who were the same height, same general size and it was my third shift on the job. So, the guys laughed and told me it wasn't a big deal. The girl threatened to kick my a$$ over it.

violetvirgo · July 2010

bajanempress:
I thought white women have historically benefited more from AA than any other minority so I don't know why it is always brought up in race discussions. In addition the girl who yelled at the OP may have thought she was doing the all black people look the same to me and the guys may have been laughing at that. I've been mistaken for black women who look nothing like me by white people at work simply because we are both black female and geologists. It's not a great feeling.

they have. i always find it hilarious. also using quotes around evil was stupid. Nazi's were and are EVIL. no quotes. they aren't being misrepresented. Pure.Fvcking. Evil. and a history refresher course would do you well.

also a dictionary to determine the difference between prejudice, discrimination and racism.

and someone called me white trash once. i was livid. i'm MEXICAN, damn you! don't let the white looking kid in my siggy confuse you!

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