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Should I be concerned with daycare "promotion" strategy? LONG

First let it be said that I love our DC - they're great people, very communicative, and I feel as comfortable as I can be having Liam there.  That said, when Liam first started, children would be moved to the next room based on ability.  There is an Infant room, then a Crawler room for when they get mobile, then a Woddler room for when they would start walking, Toddler room for once they are potty trained, etc.

The DC decided that as of this August, they would do things based on age as of September first of each year - meaning everyone would switch rooms just once a year.  Early on, it seems that your child's birthday makes a HUGE impact on this - I'll try and explain.

The new room start ages will be:
Infant: 6 weeks
Crawler: 6 months
Woddler: 1 year
Toddler: 18 months
2 year old class: 2 year, and so forth for 3, 4, 5.

Children have to be those ages by September 1st.  I'm a bit concerned because my son's birthday is March 19th, so I see him progressing as such:

Infant room now, he will be just shy of 6 months by 19 days at September 1st, so he will be in the infant room till September 2011.  At that point he will be 19 days shy of 18 months, so he will be in he Woddler room till September 2012, at which point he will finally move into the 2 year old class, when he is practically 2 and a half.  To put it more concisely:

Infant room for almost 18 months
Woddler room till he is almost 2 and a half.

Is this typical?  Should I be concerned about his development?  Right now the only two children close to him in age (he is the youngest, still) are going to make the cutoff to the Crawler room (which he will skip, along with the Toddler room), making him by FAR the oldest in the infant room.  No one has brought an infant into the daycare younger than him yet, but from what I've hear, he will be the oldest by 2ish months based on people who have registered.  Should I be concerned about this slowing his development, among other things?  Should I push to have him moved up regardless?  Can I get some thoughts on this? 
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Re: Should I be concerned with daycare "promotion" strategy? LONG

  • I looked at a daycare that did things the same way, and I didn't like it.  I'd talk to them about this.  I think it's ridiculous to move kids based on the age they are at one specific time of the year at this young age. 
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  • Rather than pushing to have DS promoted early, I would ask them to consider promoting the < 2 year olds twice a year. It doesn't make sense to promote only once a year when the classes are broken down into 6 month age groups. Have they not realized that some of the kids will skip the 6 and 18 month classes and the others will skip the 12 month class? Or that in the summers, they may have an almost 18 month old in the class with 6 week olds? I think you should talk to them.

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  • I think they will be moving the under 2 crowd at different times. No way is a new parent going to want their infant in with an 18 month old.
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    I think they will be moving the under 2 crowd at different times. No way is a new parent going to want their infant in with an 18 month old.


    I had emailed the owner, and was told this:

    "Yes, Liam will essentially skip the Toddler class.  He will go from Infants to Woddlers and then onto the 2?s, 3?s, & 4?s.  Some children May skip Woddlers, some may skip Toddlers depending on when their birthday falls.   For example Child X will be in the Crawlers in August and then skip Woddlers, but he and Liam will then be together in the 2-4 year old classes.  The children that Liam will be with will all be in a 6 month age gap.  Liam will be one of the oldest in his class.  Next year Liam will graduate to the Woddler class and the following year to the Pre K 2 class where he will rejoin the other children who were in the Toddler class.  Class age range for the Infant-Toddler classes will be within a 6 month age gap of each other and the 2-4 year old classes they will be a full year span.  In August the children in the Infant class will range from 2-5 months.  They will all stay together through all their transitions every August. 
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  • Actually, I'll put the relevant part of the initial parent-wide email here as well, since it explains the director's reasoning:

    Every class will then get to stay with the same children they will go with to public school. We feel that this is best for the children for many reasons. First, children will be with the same teachers and classmates for an entire year allowing them to fully adapt to that class without always having new faces or new rooms throughout the year. We also feel that transitioning once a year will be a lot easier on the children, because it allows them to form bonds with teachers for longer periods of time and truly adjust to the schedule in their classroom.  Transitioning yearly will also give the teachers the ability to truly expand on a lesson and really dive into the curriculum more deeply. We have also realized that it is much easier for the teachers to alter the curriculum for an entire class than it is for one child to transition into a new class midway through the year. We feel that having the same class for a year will be very beneficial to the teachers as well as allowing the children to thrive in their educational and loving environments. 

     

    We realize that this means that several children will have a birthday shortly after the new school year begins or midway through the year.  This is how it will always be for those children that just miss the ?kindergarten cutoff?. We will alter our schedules in classrooms and adjust the curriculum accordingly. We will always challenge your child developmentally, cognitively, and socially.  The teachers will begin doing parent/teacher conferences and children?s evaluations twice a year. We will always work with every child on his/her own level.


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  • We have also realized that it is much easier for the teachers to alter the curriculum for an entire class than it is for one child to transition into a new class midway through the year. 

    We will alter our schedules in classrooms and adjust the curriculum accordingly. .....  We will always work with every child on his/her own level.

    I kind of feel like there is a certain contradiction in the first statement above and the next two.  She talks about altering a curriculum for the entire class, but yet states that they will adjust their curriculum for each child accordingly.  

    In a classroom where they have infants and then 18 month olds...???  That just seems really diverse and I do wonder how much individualized attention each kid will really get vs if your 16 month old was in the next class instead.

    Heck, plus, I think SOME change in a childs life isn't a bad thing....

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  • I think it sounds like your daycare provider doesn't want to be bothered with the whole situation; they are making it easier on THEMselves instead of doing what is right and best for the children.  Of course they only want to promote once a year--it's easy.  But that doesn't mean it isn't hard on the parents for the exact reasons that you list.

    Our daycare promotes strictly by age and room availability, and I can appreciate that.  DS ended up staying in the infant room until he was 14 months, but was promoted as soon as there was room in a young toddler room, even though it was the middle of January.  It showed me that they are actually interested in my child, and not their own schedules.

    Yes, it would bother me.  Schedule a sit-down with the director and voice your concerns.

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    Ours is a combo of ability and age.  They've found and I agree that oftentimes, if a child is close to an ability, like walking, being promoted can only serve to encourage that development.  There are certain things that are required.  But ours goes infant room until 1 yr or so when they must be on table foods, sippys only and able to walk holding one hand (that wasn't true for DD but she was really close).  Then they are promoted about every 4 months until 2 (each room focuses on something like napping on a mat, sitting in a chair vs high chair and so on), then every 6 mos until 3, then once PTed, one more room and then by year.  I think if you think your DS is ahead and should be promoted you should discuss with the teachers and directors.  I know ours does not have a firm line for that very reason -- there are oftentimes kids who are more ready than others for promotion.


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  • Her email to you about separating from and rejoining the Toddler class sort of contradicts the class continuity reasoning.

    I would not be cool with this plan, not as an under 3 really. Exposure to the older kids has really been beneficial for DD.

    Mine moves up by availability in the next room, demand for the current room and skills. And they try to transition them in groups so that the kids still have familiar faces. So at 13/14 months, DD and 2 other 13/14 month olds moved up.

    I would schedule a meeting. It's possible that they'll make an exception for you iif you make a case for it.

  • "Class age range for the Infant-Toddler classes will be within a 6 month age gap of each other and the 2-4 year old classes they will be a full year span.  "

    Also - that statement is untrue if your DS will be in the Infant room until 18 months. Sorry, I don't know wny I am hung up on this, but this policy bothers me for some reason.

  • And to add.... their reasoning of keeping the kids together, as they'll move all the way up to school w/ the same group, is pointless too.  A 6 month old is really going to remember who they are in class with, or even an 18 month old? 

    It just doesn't jive.

     

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  • I would be very concerned...there is no way I would want my girls in an infant room at 18 months...and I can't imagine any infant parents would want my crazy 18 months running around their immobile baby...I would schedule a meeting with the director...and honestly I would start looking for a new place in case they won't move your LO up...their logic is ridiculous...
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    Rather than pushing to have DS promoted early, I would ask them to consider promoting the < 2 year olds twice a year. It doesn't make sense to promote only once a year when the classes are broken down into 6 month age groups. Have they not realized that some of the kids will skip the 6 and 18 month classes and the others will skip the 12 month class? Or that in the summers, they may have an almost 18 month old in the class with 6 week olds? I think you should talk to them.



    This seems like a good approach.  I did speak with the director after asking for clarification from the owner (the emails I posted), and she tried to reassure me that the would have different sections in the infant room to accommodate the different ages, but honestly, this idea you mentioned makes a lot more sense to me.  The only benefit I could see is that they would be maintaining the "better" ratios for longer with him - technically there would be more teachers per child in the younger classrooms - but I'm more worried about how Liam won't be around ANY older kids to learn from, basically.

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  • This seems like a ridiculous move-up policy.  I used to work in a daycare and our policy was to move them up based on THEIR birthday.  Now our infant room was 6w to 18 months (we had a smaller center) but we had seperate areas for the mobile and non-mobile children and different activities/toys that were developmentally appropriate for each group. Our toddler room was 18m-3y (again small center).  The only exception to the birthday rule (aside from the switch from preK to School Age which was done upon the child entering K regardless of their birthday) was from toddler to Preschool....you HAD to be potty trained to go to preschool. Sometimes an infant that was exceptionally developed would move up at 16 months or so and same for a toddler (we may move them up a few months shy of three is they showed signs of being ready). I suggest you talk to the director and see if your son can be moved up with the other babies close to his age...19 days shy seems to me like something they can work with.
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