I'm not usually one to call someone out, but..

Gina1221 · May 2010

MrsBatty:
Well Becko ... looks like you and I are taking the same crazy pills, b/c I totally agree with every point you've made.
I don't blame you for questioning that statement. At all.

Didn't you start a whole thread about what a great napper your DD is and that's how you have free time to do things like Bump? Honestly, that's wonderful for you, but not every child is the same. If you had a child who didn't sleep well or nap well than maybe you would be a little more understanding of other mothers who don't have the luxury of free time.

AMYfromKY · May 2010

mavilabride:
As far as I am concerned, you are alone in this opinion and very judgmental. Things don't come across the way they are meant online and you can't take everything to literal. I don't know a single child that can actually sit that long without calling out for attention so I'm sure her LO isn't confined to the PNP for the entire 2.5 hours. And if her LO is ok with independent play for that long and she can get stuff done, then kuddos to her. Maybe LO spends those 2 hours playing quietly and the rest of the day hanging out with momma. Also, a PNP is not the same as a bumbo. There's plenty of space to crawl around, stand, and play with toys.

I have to agree with this. Independent play is actually very important and should be done as long as the baby is happy.

UrbanHippieMama · May 2010

MrsBatty:

Well Becko ... looks like you and I are taking the same crazy pills, b/c I totally agree with every point you've made.

I don't blame you for questioning that statement. At all.

I agree.

zeesbride · May 2010

trackchik6:
kit443:
I just don't clean or fold laundry - problem solved!
lol me either! But that's b/c DS won't sit in the pnp happily for even 5 mins.. if i am lucky i can get 10 mins in the exersaucer.

Haha same here!

userdeleted · May 2010

The original wording did sound like the baby was in the pnp for 2.5 hrs straight, and 2.5 straight hours of awake time in the pnp is too long, whether the baby is being checked on or not. Period.

I'm glad that the OP came back and clarified, but a little surprised that so many people were willing to defend her even if MrsBeckO was correct in her interpretation. Yes, independent play is good - my first has always been very very independent and spends most of his day playing on his own - but that doesn't mean being confined to a very small space by themselves with a few toys is a good thing. Children need to explore their environment to learn and develop.

Of course I'm very sympathetic to those who are trying to get things done around the house. The superyards are great...so is extensive babyproofing (which is the route we've taken). Leaving your child in a tiny little pack and play for hours is not okay even if they seem "fine." Again, I understand that that isn't what the OP did, but the fact that some of you defended it is...strange.

nmc29 · May 2010

And this is why we have this pnp...although..it's not really a pnp..it's much bigger than a regular one..it's a little over 3' on each side.

gumiberg · May 2010

Rach03k:

The original wording did sound like the baby was in the pnp for 2.5 hrs straight, and 2.5 straight hours of awake time in the pnp is too long, whether the baby is being checked on or not. Period.

I'm glad that the OP came back and clarified, but a little surprised that so many people were willing to defend her even if MrsBeckO was correct in her interpretation. Yes, independent play is good - my first has always been very very independent and spends most of his day playing on his own - but that doesn't mean being confined to a very small space by themselves with a few toys is a good thing. Children need to explore their environment to learn and develop.

Of course I'm very sympathetic to those who are trying to get things done around the house. The superyards are great...so is extensive babyproofing (which is the route we've taken). Leaving your child in a tiny little pack and play for hours is not okay even if they seem "fine." Again, I understand that that isn't what the OP did, but the fact that some of you defended it is...strange.

i agree.

Mike&Care · May 2010

I agree. We have something that I call a "cage" LOL that is this huge wooden playpen in the living room. She goes in it twice a day. 30 minutes in the morning after breakfast (while I make other daughter breakfast and have coffee). Then in the afternoon I will sit in there with her while she plays (she usually doesnt want to be alone in there. Sometimes my older daughter will play w/ her too. She "helps" me fold laundry and I clean while she naps or after bedtime. I dont understand putting your baby in a pnp for 2 1/2 hours...

ETA: Saw the post from the original poster. Still too long for me, but whatever works for her.

Here's the thing we have if anyone is interested.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GQ4CL0/?tag=plentyofnuts-20

(Not my photo)

mcgee · May 2010

smellycat15:
I dont need to "teach" her anything yet. She's 11 months old. Once she is old enough to actually help then I will happily ask for her to help me fold clothes or clean.

You "teach" an infant/young toddler by constantly talking to them - not in baby talk - about what you're doing. You describe things to them - this is yellow, this is rough, this is smooth, up high, down low, in/out, etc. It doesn't seem like much, but it makes a world of difference to a child. Our daughter knew most of her colors by age 13 months. Why? Because we had these colored balls in a little inflatable ball pit, and I kept showing her different balls and telling her the colors. I could hold up two balls and say, "Show me the green (or whatever color) one," and she'd get it right most of the time. A child doesn't learn that if he or she is sitting in a PnP alone for several hours at a time.

Sadly, if you are going to wait until your child is "old enough to help" you will be missing out on some great learning opportunities. Even very young children can "help" if you can be patient with them. My daughter is almost four, but she has been helping load and unload the dishwasher and set the table since she was about 18 months old. It's much quicker to do it myself, but she doesn't learn anything that way. Even a toddler can be given a wet washcloth and taught to wipe a table or wipe up a spilled drink on the floor. It teaches responsibility, and it allows the child to feel that he or she is a "big kid" who can help Mama.

mcgee · May 2010

lizrenee06:
look people, i have a larger home. lots of places for him to get hurt, lots of electrical sockets for him to play with. i feel it safer to put him in his pnp vs letting him roam free. my insurance prefers it, too

Confused It's called childproofing, and you really should look into it. Get some socket plugs, put up some gates, and supervise him.

MrsBatty · May 2010

Gina1221:
MrsBatty:
Well Becko ... looks like you and I are taking the same crazy pills, b/c I totally agree with every point you've made.
I don't blame you for questioning that statement. At all.
Didn't you start a whole thread about what a great napper your DD is and that's how you have free time to do things like Bump? Honestly, that's wonderful for you, but not every child is the same. If you had a child who didn't sleep well or nap well than maybe you would be a little more understanding of other mothers who don't have the luxury of free time.

Nope. My thread was a response to someone else (n22) telling me that I bump 24-7 ... and I was explaining that I only bump when she's napping. (Like right now.)

I realize not every child was the same.

I was not pointing fingers or making accusations.

I was stating that I agree with MrsBecko and that I also (without knowing details) found that comment disturbing.

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

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