My kids don't even realize there's a difference between them and a child who is not white--people are people, and to them it's no different than a white person with red hair and one with brown.
My cousin noticed a difference around Jackson's age - we were at the country club pool and she said loudly, "UH Bethy, why are those kids so dark chocolate?" Awkward - I was 15 at the time and was her summer sitter.
I think she thought they had just gotten a really dark tan - she recognized getting tan at that age, because she is really dark complected and people would always comment on whether she wore sunscreen or not. So I think her knowledge of skin tone was a bit heightened due to years of those types of questions/comments. That's something Jackson has no clue about, though.
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Tay did say something once when she was 4 ish, close to 5. Along the lines of "that boy looks like Barack Obama." I gave her the "yes, everyone has different skin shades" speech.
Now that she is in school, I think they did a unit on multiculturalism, and really its not been an issue with her.
My other two don't care, never have said anything.
I think its normal if you aren't around people of different races to ask at some point.
DD did before she turned three. There was an Indian boy in her Gymboree class (he had been in our classes for over a year) and one day after the class as she was going down for her nap, she said "mommy, remember the little brown boy in Gymbo?"
No, he's never mentioned anything about skin color. I do have a book called Shades of Black from my teaching days that we've read a couple times (he picked it out from his bookcase), but he's never commented on it. He's also been around all different ethnicities since he was very young, though, so I'm sure it just seems normal to him for people to have a range of skintones.
He did think an Ethiopian boy we didn't know was his friend who's Ethiopian, though. He ran up and started tickling him. It was pretty cute.
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She just has started to notice in the last few months, mostly while watching tv. To be honest, where we live, there are very few african americans, so she notices and has asked questions. I mean, I could go months without seeing someone who is black. On the other hand, there are plenty of native americans here, and that doesn't phase her one bit.
My son just started asking about it. He was asking what my dr. looked like and I told him a man a little older than me and daddy. He said "what is his color?" He has asked me this weekend about a coworker I was talking about as well - so it's pretty recent. DH is black and I am white so I was wondering when he would notice - it's not like he has asked why are we different, I see it as another physical trait like someone with blond or red hair.
Last month we were talking about the beach. One of his friends at school said he didn't like the beach that much because you get sunburned. I didn't want DS to not like the beach so I told him that some people do get sunburned when they go to the beach some don't depending on how their skin does with the sun (DS won't burn whereas I will) and we will put sunscreen on to make sure it doesn't happen. This conversation is probably what sparked his comments and realizations.
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I mentioned this in a post the other day, but Rory came to her own conclusion that peoples' skin turned different colors over time. LOL! And for awhile there she thought every Asian person she saw was a friend of ours who is Asian.
It is just another thing for her to learn as she grows.
My DS doesn't notice any differences. DD has always been super observant and she notices that people look different, have different hair, eye and skin color. She doesn't care about those things, she just knows that everyone is different.
My daughter notices. We have good friends with two girls who are AA. DD ask, we talk about it. Her teachers are also AA. She likes them, but she has "noticed", kind of hard not to. Nothing wrong with talking about it. I think not talking about the differences in people is kind of a mistake. If you don't talk about it, then they make their own assumptions, which may or may not be correct. Skin is just skin, but there are cultural differences (in our community at least) and I want DD to know that those are just as valid as our cultural
No, they don't thank goodness and we live in a rural, kind of white area. Maybe it is because we have family friends who are not white, I don't know. I just remember my cousins grew up in a rural area that was mostly white and the first time my cousin saw someone who wasn't white she asked her mom why they had makeup on all over and dark....we grew up in the city so I always thought that was kind of crazy. I want to expose my kids to all different kinds of people.
No. Our family is not all caucasion and we live in the SF Bay Area so they've never known anything other than daily interactions with people that dont look just like them. Thank God. It would suckass to live in an all white area. My parents do and my mom can't stand that aspect of her town.
Yes, Winnie has commented on it a few times. She has eyes & knows colors so of course she notices there is a difference--I am sure your kids do too but may not say anything yet--Does she make judgments or have negative thoughts/comments based on that? No. She asked to have beads & braids in her hair like Sophie in her class--So I talked to Sophies Mom & she told me how to do it--Win came to school w/ braids & beads & another white girl did too a couple days later. She sometimes describes my brother as the Uncle w/ the dark skin that is a Soldier...because she can't keep all 5 of her uncles straight by names (since she only sees one often). Same with her Aunt Joy...she notices she's dark. She probably doesn't notice slighter differences in skin color tone but if she didn't that her Dad had freckles & red hair was different than her Aunt who is super dark, I'd think it was odd. I don't think it's a positive to ignore the issue & hope it doesn't come up. I want my kids to acknowledge it at some level & talk about it...we really have no choice since my family is multiracial.
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Yes, ds does notice different skin colors. It's not a big deal to him and he doesn't seem to assign any value (good or bad) to it, but just notices in a matter-of-fact way similarly to how he'd notice that some people have brown eyes, other people have blue: hair can be blonde, brown, red, etc. Skin can be peach, or different shades of brown...
Yes, she notices, but I don't think that's a bad thing. It's like noticing someone is taller, or has red hair, or runs really fast. There is nothing inherently bad about NOTICING differences. What I focus on teaching Kate is not to make judgments or generalizations about differences, but honestly, that this age kids don't even know what sterotypes or judgments are out there for difference ethnicities.
I don't think parents should hush kids or try to tell them everyone is the same. It's not true, people do look different from each other in all sorts of ways (not just skin color) so to ask your child not to NOTICE is just ridiculous. You can work on politeness about comments, and later on how to treat everyone the same and that everyone is the same on the inside, but I think it's hypersensitive to not allow kids to notice.
Yes, Winnie has commented on it a few times. She has eyes & knows colors so of course she notices there is a difference--I am sure your kids do too but may not say anything yet--Does she make judgments or have negative thoughts/comments based on that? No. She asked to have beads & braids in her hair like Sophie in her class--So I talked to Sophies Mom & she told me how to do it--Win came to school w/ braids & beads & another white girl did too a couple days later. She sometimes describes my brother as the Uncle w/ the dark skin that is a Soldier...because she can't keep all 5 of her uncles straight by names (since she only sees one often). Same with her Aunt Joy...she notices she's dark. She probably doesn't notice slighter differences in skin color tone but if she didn't that her Dad had freckles & red hair was different than her Aunt who is super dark, I'd think it was odd. I don't think it's a positive to ignore the issue & hope it doesn't come up. I want my kids to acknowledge it at some level & talk about it...we really have no choice since my family is multiracial.
I don't know about this. My kids are 6.5 and 5 and don't mention it. I'm happy to talk about it if they ever ask but I'm not going to all sudden start discussing all of their friends and cousins skin colors out of the blue. That would seem odd and they'd probably be totally lost.
I agree that noticing is not bad at all - it's just not come up here, and I think it's something that we'll wait for him to bring up because it's an easier way to broach the conversation and see what he wants to/needs to know.
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Yes, they notice. They've asked about the "brown guy" on the Electric company before. I think all kids notice. They don't say anything, nor do they know what it means, but it doesn't mean they don't notice. We're white, but I've been talking about race (colors) for a little while now. I've pointed out that president Obama has darker skin than ours, but it doesn't matter what your skin color is you can be anything you want to be/do. It's the inside that counts, not the outside. I read this article in Newsweek sometime ago and it prompted me to be more proactive.
I'm sure she notices, but doesn't think anything of it. Just like she notices that Preston got a red balloon and she got an orange one and Christine got a green one - it's just something to notice, how could you not? She has always had hispanic, AA, and mixed race kids in her class, so I think it's just normal to her that people come in different colors.
Back in grad school, my roommate's family came from Kenya to visit her. Her little nephew was not even 2yo, but he'd never seen a white person close up. He would sneak up behind me and pet my hair and poke at my skin just because it was so different looking to him. He was totally fascinated by me and it was adorable though I think his mom was embarrassed.
Not yet. DH is white and I am black. DS doesn't seem to think anything of it.
We live in a mostly white area so I'm the oddball but he still hasn't said anything yet. However, I do get a lot of wide eye stares from children all the time.
My DD had never said anything about her AA friend being a different color, so I didn't think she noticed. Then one day she pointed out a black doll and said it looked just like her friend, so I clearly she did notice but didn't think it was worth mentioning. That was last fall, so she was 2.5.
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Notice, yes. Give a rats? no. She gravitates toward anyone who doesn't look like her - whether they be red haired, blonde, wearing glasses, different skin, etc. She thinks it's cool. The only thing she has said so far is "why does that girl have candies in her hair, that's so silly!!" She thought the beads were from a candy necklace LOL
DS's developmental pedi says most well developing kids notice this on their own about age 4-5.
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I am sure your kids notice, it's really ridiculous to think they can't distinguish/notice something as basic as that. Do your kids not notice that they have brown hair & brown eyes. I know my DD#2 commented on that as early as 2yrs old. Whether or not they deem it noteworthy or comment worthy is another thing. I bet if you asked N to draw herself & her black friend & gave her colors she would not draw them exactly the same.
I can tell you we adopted my brother when I was 4 & I noticed that he was brown the moment I saw him as I remember thinking it--I am sure I didn't say anything about it though. He noticed people of different colors as a toddler I know for a fact.
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They arent color blind, though my DD sometimes dresses like she is, so they color people appropriatly. Beyond that its never been brought up. I suspect its in the same category as eye color, hair color etc. Thus the non issueness (not a word..I know!!) of it all and the lack of a desire to ask me anything about it. They also never asks me why DH has has blue eyes versus hazel brown like the me. So I guess my answer should be that knowing they are not color blind I can only assume that yes they see shades of skin color. But the question is sort of odd because unless you are blind or color blind you'll notice a variety of shades and colors. So this question can only truly be answered as a true "yes" if you child truly physically cannot see the color of a persons skin. I personally did not take the question that literally.
We've had a few convos about skin color with Ben before. He brought it up every time....just random comments.He's said before (before the twins were born) that he and I were "tan" and Nat and DH were "brown." About a month ago he decided that we were all "white" except DH, who is "brown." And also in the last month or so he mentioned that Eli was "more white" than he is. If I ask him what color T & D at daycare are, he'll say "brown."
There's nothing negative to it, of course, but I would also be a little surprised if he hadn't noticed anything at all by now. I would assume if it was more rare to see people of other etnicities, then kids would be more sensitive to the differences, but I'd never assume that just because a child isn't mentioning it that they weren't noticing or drawing their own conclusions.
Re: Do your children notice difference in skin color?
No, but I can't imagine many children this age do notice a difference.
No.
My cousin noticed a difference around Jackson's age - we were at the country club pool and she said loudly, "UH Bethy, why are those kids so dark chocolate?" Awkward - I was 15 at the time and was her summer sitter.
I think she thought they had just gotten a really dark tan - she recognized getting tan at that age, because she is really dark complected and people would always comment on whether she wore sunscreen or not. So I think her knowledge of skin tone was a bit heightened due to years of those types of questions/comments. That's something Jackson has no clue about, though.
Tay did say something once when she was 4 ish, close to 5. Along the lines of "that boy looks like Barack Obama." I gave her the "yes, everyone has different skin shades" speech.
Now that she is in school, I think they did a unit on multiculturalism, and really its not been an issue with her.
My other two don't care, never have said anything.
I think its normal if you aren't around people of different races to ask at some point.
DD did before she turned three. There was an Indian boy in her Gymboree class (he had been in our classes for over a year) and one day after the class as she was going down for her nap, she said "mommy, remember the little brown boy in Gymbo?"
No, he's never mentioned anything about skin color. I do have a book called Shades of Black from my teaching days that we've read a couple times (he picked it out from his bookcase), but he's never commented on it. He's also been around all different ethnicities since he was very young, though, so I'm sure it just seems normal to him for people to have a range of skintones.
He did think an Ethiopian boy we didn't know was his friend who's Ethiopian, though. He ran up and started tickling him. It was pretty cute.
Alex (11/14/06) and Nate (5/25/10)
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My son just started asking about it. He was asking what my dr. looked like and I told him a man a little older than me and daddy. He said "what is his color?" He has asked me this weekend about a coworker I was talking about as well - so it's pretty recent. DH is black and I am white so I was wondering when he would notice - it's not like he has asked why are we different, I see it as another physical trait like someone with blond or red hair.
Last month we were talking about the beach. One of his friends at school said he didn't like the beach that much because you get sunburned. I didn't want DS to not like the beach so I told him that some people do get sunburned when they go to the beach some don't depending on how their skin does with the sun (DS won't burn whereas I will) and we will put sunscreen on to make sure it doesn't happen. This conversation is probably what sparked his comments and realizations.
I mentioned this in a post the other day, but Rory came to her own conclusion that peoples' skin turned different colors over time. LOL! And for awhile there she thought every Asian person she saw was a friend of ours who is Asian.
It is just another thing for her to learn as she grows.
Yes, she notices, but I don't think that's a bad thing. It's like noticing someone is taller, or has red hair, or runs really fast. There is nothing inherently bad about NOTICING differences. What I focus on teaching Kate is not to make judgments or generalizations about differences, but honestly, that this age kids don't even know what sterotypes or judgments are out there for difference ethnicities.
I don't think parents should hush kids or try to tell them everyone is the same. It's not true, people do look different from each other in all sorts of ways (not just skin color) so to ask your child not to NOTICE is just ridiculous. You can work on politeness about comments, and later on how to treat everyone the same and that everyone is the same on the inside, but I think it's hypersensitive to not allow kids to notice.
I don't know about this. My kids are 6.5 and 5 and don't mention it. I'm happy to talk about it if they ever ask but I'm not going to all sudden start discussing all of their friends and cousins skin colors out of the blue. That would seem odd and they'd probably be totally lost.
I agree that noticing is not bad at all - it's just not come up here, and I think it's something that we'll wait for him to bring up because it's an easier way to broach the conversation and see what he wants to/needs to know.
Yes, they notice. They've asked about the "brown guy" on the Electric company before. I think all kids notice. They don't say anything, nor do they know what it means, but it doesn't mean they don't notice. We're white, but I've been talking about race (colors) for a little while now. I've pointed out that president Obama has darker skin than ours, but it doesn't matter what your skin color is you can be anything you want to be/do. It's the inside that counts, not the outside. I read this article in Newsweek sometime ago and it prompted me to be more proactive.
https://www.newsweek.com/id/214989
I'm sure she notices, but doesn't think anything of it. Just like she notices that Preston got a red balloon and she got an orange one and Christine got a green one - it's just something to notice, how could you not? She has always had hispanic, AA, and mixed race kids in her class, so I think it's just normal to her that people come in different colors.
Back in grad school, my roommate's family came from Kenya to visit her. Her little nephew was not even 2yo, but he'd never seen a white person close up. He would sneak up behind me and pet my hair and poke at my skin just because it was so different looking to him. He was totally fascinated by me and it was adorable though I think his mom was embarrassed.
Not yet. DH is white and I am black. DS doesn't seem to think anything of it.
We live in a mostly white area so I'm the oddball but he still hasn't said anything yet. However, I do get a lot of wide eye stares from children all the time.
Ruh Roh!
I am sure your kids notice, it's really ridiculous to think they can't distinguish/notice something as basic as that. Do your kids not notice that they have brown hair & brown eyes. I know my DD#2 commented on that as early as 2yrs old. Whether or not they deem it noteworthy or comment worthy is another thing. I bet if you asked N to draw herself & her black friend & gave her colors she would not draw them exactly the same.
I can tell you we adopted my brother when I was 4 & I noticed that he was brown the moment I saw him as I remember thinking it--I am sure I didn't say anything about it though. He noticed people of different colors as a toddler I know for a fact.
They arent color blind, though my DD sometimes dresses like she is, so they color people appropriatly. Beyond that its never been brought up. I suspect its in the same category as eye color, hair color etc. Thus the non issueness (not a word..I know!!) of it all and the lack of a desire to ask me anything about it. They also never asks me why DH has has blue eyes versus hazel brown like the me. So I guess my answer should be that knowing they are not color blind I can only assume that yes they see shades of skin color. But the question is sort of odd because unless you are blind or color blind you'll notice a variety of shades and colors. So this question can only truly be answered as a true "yes" if you child truly physically cannot see the color of a persons skin. I personally did not take the question that literally.
We've had a few convos about skin color with Ben before. He brought it up every time....just random comments.He's said before (before the twins were born) that he and I were "tan" and Nat and DH were "brown." About a month ago he decided that we were all "white" except DH, who is "brown." And also in the last month or so he mentioned that Eli was "more white" than he is. If I ask him what color T & D at daycare are, he'll say "brown."
There's nothing negative to it, of course, but I would also be a little surprised if he hadn't noticed anything at all by now. I would assume if it was more rare to see people of other etnicities, then kids would be more sensitive to the differences, but I'd never assume that just because a child isn't mentioning it that they weren't noticing or drawing their own conclusions.