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"Who I am in a nutshell" FFFC

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Since we are letting it all hang out for our FFFCs today....

 I am a gay-marriage supporting, extremely liberal, pro-choice, FF (not by choice), Pro-health care, EXTREMELY anti-death penalty, Episcopalian disability rights activist who hates racists, homophobes, and close-minded Christians.

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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?
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    I'm a supporter of all LGBT rights, I'm liberal on some political issues and somewhat conservative on others, I don't pay a lot of attention to what's happening in the government, I believe that the prison system should be harder on criminals (no cable TV, internet, etc.) and I do believe in the death penalty for some crimes/criminals.

    I'm an Episcopalian who is a proud member of a reconciling ministry. I worked hard during college to help my college church group become a reconciling ministry. We welcome people from all walks of life, race, etc.

    I don't hate anybody, but I believe that some people really need to open their minds and see things outside of their basic upbringing.

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  • ToledoDeuxToledoDeux member

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    Huh.  I always wonder the opposite: advocating giving someone a lethal injection is not exactly "pro-life."

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  • MarthaP18MarthaP18 member
    imageToledoDeux:

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    Huh.  I always wonder the opposite: advocating giving someone a lethal injection is not exactly "pro-life."

    Exactly! I wonder how people can say they're pro-"life" but support the death penalty. That's a huge oxymoron.

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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229
    imageToledoDeux:

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    Huh.  I always wonder the opposite: advocating giving someone a lethal injection is not exactly "pro-life."

    If you look at it either way...to me it doesn't make sense. Again, this is no flame...but pro-choice (it's ok to kill a baby who never had a chance), but anti-death penalty (its NOT ok to kill someone who made a choice and ended up in that situation).

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  • redhotchili83redhotchili83 member

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    I thought this would come up.  I am pro choice, not pro death.  I wish no one would have to be in the situation to have to choose to have an abortion, but I feel as a state, people should be given that ability to choose for themselves. Ive also had a friend who found out her baby was not viable and I would never have wanted her to have to carry that child to term, only to deliver it dead (again, I totally support people who choose this, but she shouldnt be forced to)

    However, I do not see the point of the death penalty.  I think that it doesnt do anything to deter crime.  I believe in prision without parole, but needlessly killing someone in the name of "justice" isnt something I agree with.  I also would rather let a million murderers and rapists sit in prison than execute one innocent person.  Time has already shown that, even with DNA evidence, innocent people have died.

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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229
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    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    I thought this would come up.  I am pro choice, not pro death.  I wish no one would have to be in the situation to have to choose to have an abortion, but I feel as a state, people should be given that ability to choose for themselves. Ive also had a friend who found out her baby was not viable and I would never have wanted her to have to carry that child to term, only to deliver it dead (again, I totally support people who choose this, but she shouldnt be forced to)

    However, I do not see the point of the death penalty.  I think that it doesnt do anything to deter crime.  I believe in prision without parole, but needlessly killing someone in the name of "justice" isnt something I agree with.  I also would rather let a million murderers and rapists sit in prison than execute one innocent person.  Time has already shown that, even with DNA evidence, innocent people have died.

    I understand...I'm pro-choice and for the death penalty, although I agree it really doesn't deter from crimes. Most of the time too, I think it would be better to let them sit and rot in prison for the rest of their lives, but...then the conservative comes out and me and I think...that's eating up a lot of tax payer dollars lol

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  • ToledoDeuxToledoDeux member
    never mind.  i'm out.
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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229

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    never mind.  i'm out.

    I never said I was against all killing...I was just bringing up a curiousity...if you look, I posted that I am pro-choice and for the death penalty.

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  • redhotchili83redhotchili83 member

    imageAFWife1229:
    imageredhotchili83:

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    I thought this would come up.  I am pro choice, not pro death.  I wish no one would have to be in the situation to have to choose to have an abortion, but I feel as a state, people should be given that ability to choose for themselves. Ive also had a friend who found out her baby was not viable and I would never have wanted her to have to carry that child to term, only to deliver it dead (again, I totally support people who choose this, but she shouldnt be forced to)

    However, I do not see the point of the death penalty.  I think that it doesnt do anything to deter crime.  I believe in prision without parole, but needlessly killing someone in the name of "justice" isnt something I agree with.  I also would rather let a million murderers and rapists sit in prison than execute one innocent person.  Time has already shown that, even with DNA evidence, innocent people have died.

    I understand...I'm pro-choice and for the death penalty, although I agree it really doesn't deter from crimes. Most of the time too, I think it would be better to let them sit and rot in prison for the rest of their lives, but...then the conservative comes out and me and I think...that's eating up a lot of tax payer dollars lol


    I hope you dont mind bantering with me :)  I think that with all the appeals done with death penalty cases (which I think SHOULD be allowed to prevent innocent executions), a ton of $$$$ is sucked up with court costs, prosecution costs, etc.  Ive read statistics either way saying its more expensive to execute, more expensive for life in prison.  I agree tho that prisons should be REFORMED!  I had a student years ago who said his dad who lives in prison has a better life than him... and I believe him!!!

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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229
    imageredhotchili83:

    imageAFWife1229:
    imageredhotchili83:

    imageAFWife1229:
    This is not a flame...but I'm always curious how people can be pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

    I thought this would come up.  I am pro choice, not pro death.  I wish no one would have to be in the situation to have to choose to have an abortion, but I feel as a state, people should be given that ability to choose for themselves. Ive also had a friend who found out her baby was not viable and I would never have wanted her to have to carry that child to term, only to deliver it dead (again, I totally support people who choose this, but she shouldnt be forced to)

    However, I do not see the point of the death penalty.  I think that it doesnt do anything to deter crime.  I believe in prision without parole, but needlessly killing someone in the name of "justice" isnt something I agree with.  I also would rather let a million murderers and rapists sit in prison than execute one innocent person.  Time has already shown that, even with DNA evidence, innocent people have died.

    I understand...I'm pro-choice and for the death penalty, although I agree it really doesn't deter from crimes. Most of the time too, I think it would be better to let them sit and rot in prison for the rest of their lives, but...then the conservative comes out and me and I think...that's eating up a lot of tax payer dollars lol


    I hope you dont mind bantering with me :)  I think that with all the appeals done with death penalty cases (which I think SHOULD be allowed to prevent innocent executions), a ton of $$$$ is sucked up with court costs, prosecution costs, etc.  Ive read statistics either way saying its more expensive to execute, more expensive for life in prison.  I agree tho that prisons should be REFORMED!  I had a student years ago who said his dad who lives in prison has a better life than him... and I believe him!!!

    Oh I love a good banter. Lol. I don't pretend to know everything...so I don't take super strong stances on things I don't know everything about. Either way...it sucks that we have to pay for it all.

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    I am for the death penalty in cases that warrant it, I think the executions should fit the crime and not be "humane" and I think they should be carried out soon after the sentencing and not 20 years later.  I am pro life unless there are extreme circumstances such as rape, incest, risk of life to the mother (cases where the mother has cancer and needs treatment right then), and fetal demise.  I don't care if people FF or BF as long as they feed their children.  I can't stand people who claim to be eco friendly and constantly gab gab gab about.  Get off the high horse and live it.  I also have a hard time with Christians that make other Christians look like nut jobs.  If I wasn't so strong in my faith I wouldn't be one because I have been screwed over by other people who call themselves Christians. Oh and on the pro-life thing I get so ticked when people are charged with double homicide when they murder a pregnant woman, yet the law says women can have an abortion and they don't look upon that as murder.  It needs to be one way or the other.  Oh and I think there should be a law that men can't leave the seat up at night when I don't want to turn on the bathroom light and wake the baby and find myself half butt deep in the toilet bowl water.       

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  • AFWife1229AFWife1229

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    I am for the death penalty in cases that warrant it, I think the executions should fit the crime and not be "humane" and I think they should be carried out soon after the sentencing and not 20 years later.  I am pro life unless there are extreme circumstances such as rape, incest, risk of life to the mother (cases where the mother has cancer and needs treatment right then), and fetal demise.  I don't care if people FF or BF as long as they feed their children.  I can't stand people who claim to be eco friendly and constantly gab gab gab about.  Get off the high horse and live it.  I also have a hard time with Christians that make other Christians look like nut jobs.  If I wasn't so strong in my faith I wouldn't be one because I have been screwed over by other people who call themselves Christians. Oh and on the pro-life thing I get so ticked when people are charged with double homicide when they murder a pregnant woman, yet the law says women can have an abortion and they don't look upon that as murder.  It needs to be one way or the other.  Oh and I think there should be a law that men can't leave the seat up at night when I don't want to turn on the bathroom light and wake the baby and find myself half butt deep in the toilet bowl water.       

    amen! lol

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  • EbethM0231EbethM0231

    imagea_brasuell:
    I am for the death penalty in cases that warrant it, I think the executions should fit the crime and not be "humane" and I think they should be carried out soon after the sentencing and not 20 years later.  I am pro life unless there are extreme circumstances such as rape, incest, risk of life to the mother (cases where the mother has cancer and needs treatment right then), and fetal demise.  I don't care if people FF or BF as long as they feed their children.  I can't stand people who claim to be eco friendly and constantly gab gab gab about.  Get off the high horse and live it.  I also have a hard time with Christians that make other Christians look like nut jobs.  If I wasn't so strong in my faith I wouldn't be one because I have been screwed over by other people who call themselves Christians. Oh and on the pro-life thing I get so ticked when people are charged with double homicide when they murder a pregnant woman, yet the law says women can have an abortion and they don't look upon that as murder.  It needs to be one way or the other.  Oh and I think there should be a law that men can't leave the seat up at night when I don't want to turn on the bathroom light and wake the baby and find myself half butt deep in the toilet bowl water.       

    can we be friends?  I agree with everything you just said.

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  • abrazzabrazz member
    imageEbethM0231:

    imagea_brasuell:
    I am for the death penalty in cases that warrant it, I think the executions should fit the crime and not be "humane" and I think they should be carried out soon after the sentencing and not 20 years later.  I am pro life unless there are extreme circumstances such as rape, incest, risk of life to the mother (cases where the mother has cancer and needs treatment right then), and fetal demise.  I don't care if people FF or BF as long as they feed their children.  I can't stand people who claim to be eco friendly and constantly gab gab gab about.  Get off the high horse and live it.  I also have a hard time with Christians that make other Christians look like nut jobs.  If I wasn't so strong in my faith I wouldn't be one because I have been screwed over by other people who call themselves Christians. Oh and on the pro-life thing I get so ticked when people are charged with double homicide when they murder a pregnant woman, yet the law says women can have an abortion and they don't look upon that as murder.  It needs to be one way or the other.  Oh and I think there should be a law that men can't leave the seat up at night when I don't want to turn on the bathroom light and wake the baby and find myself half butt deep in the toilet bowl water.       

    can we be friends?  I agree with everything you just said.

    Lol you would be my first friend on here :)  I just read my post and I sound like one of those Christians I complain about lol.  I need to take a nap.

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