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Babies on the Brain
Well, they passed it.
What are every one's thoughts?
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Re: Well, they passed it.
HUGE dislike.
HUGE.
I can't even put into words how disappointed I am.
Aaaaand another thing, my child owes 100,000 dollars already just for being a US citizen, why not just tack on a few 500,000 more.
And those are my feeling in a nut shell.
Reform was necessary. But I think this was the wrong way to do it. I think it got to a point where those who were in favor of it wanted to pass *something* and call it a victory rather than to try to craft the best possible bill.
I spent most of my childhood and a good part of my adult years without health insurance, so the importance isn't lost on me. But I think there had to be better waysto fix the system
This. It's not a cure-all and it's not the ultimate answer, but I think it is a step in the right direction and we can tinker with it as we go.
My office is going to be PISSED tomorrow. I am the only (semi) liberal in an office of uber-conservatives.
Oh, thank heavens someone else can put this together. Just looking at the government-run VA system should be reason enough to not have the government in charge of our health care. Private health insurance looks freaking golden compared to our VA system.
Yes, the current system has flaws. Huge ones. But the government taking control is not the answer, IMO.
From what I understand it's NOT a government run health plan. The government is imposing regulations on the insurance industry. There's no public option or gov't funded plan as part of this bill.
But there are tons of people on Medicare who get great service. The Senators and Congressmen are all on a gov't plan and they aren't complaining.
Honestly I haven't paid much attention to the details of it lately because I was so disgusted by the first drafts of this bill. And I don't look at the treatment that Senators and Congressmen receive as proof of what a government health plan will be for everyone.
Regulations on the insurance industry? That would be great, depending on what they are and how they're imposed. Judging by the original drafts of this bill I still don't think they're going in the right direction, but who knows maybe I'll be proved wrong.
To those of us who pay taxes.
I don't consider Medicare a true success. I used to be a social worker. And majority of my time was spent with Medicare recipients. They were on the poverty end of the spectrum and were still required to pay 20 percent of their costs. Until the last several years, there weren't even drug coverages for Medicare recipients. The ins and outs of the Medicare Part D would be too much to go into. But just know it's a mess and I would be the one to have to sort through that mess. These people would also have to find supplemental coverage for their gap. Meaning that 20 percent medicare didn't cover they would be responsible for or they could choose to pay for Gap coverage. It's a complete disaster in my book. And a lot of people are at an income level where they are right above the poverty guidelines of qualifying for medicaid to cover that gap. And those are the ones who also can't afford that supplemental insurance. So a lot would for go medications and just pray they don't get sick because their social security check wasn't big enough to cover it. horrible.
Obviously I can't get cut and dry answers from anything I read, but aren't I to understand that some of my tax dollars will go to paying for people's abortions? That is s huge deal to me. I do not agree with abortion (my opinion and I'm entitled to it), and I don't feel like I should be paying for others to get them.
I could be off though. It's so difficult to get the cut and dry on the reform.
This is a huge problem - right now my mom is dealing with it. She gets her medications because her doctor gives her all the free samples he can get his hands on. When she runs out, she suffers. It is horrible.
If you want to PM some of her meds and stuff, I'll see what I can do to help. What state is she in?
Oh, thank goodness.
Ah, so reform is truly needed then, right?
Yes. And this terrifies me. I'm very Pro-life.
Ditto!
I guess I didn't read about that. Thanks for sharing.
No problem, it was released this morning I believe.
I haven't read enough about it, to have a true opinion.
However, when Anna arrives our healthcare cost will go up to $500 a month for 3 of us. The company I work for has over 160,000 employees. Something just seems off about that.
Also, I have been without insurance for 30 frickin days and of course had a medical issue. I now make payments on my $15,000 debt. However, had I had insurance I'm sure they would have only been charged, what half maybe less?
Health insurance in general peeves me off.
I think its stupid that if you don't have insurance you'll get fined. Just another way for the government to make some money...
But really it won't affect me much as I feel heathcare (all of it) is a crock. We only use it for major catastophes, like Ds's broken arm, since beginning chiropractic.
SAHM to 4 kiddos... K (5/05), N (4/09), C (11/10) and Baby A 1/13/14
I don't recall saying that that was my only concern. That was a major one for me though. But wow, you jumped on me quick about that. Not trying to fight here!
I honestly don't like most of the entire reform. I'm terrified that hospitals are going to turn into the equivalent of DMVs...lines and horrible amounts of paperwork. Sooo much I don't agree with.
agree. Just look at the VA systems, Medicare systems. Honestly I think Medicaid is what they got somewhat right. But that's stretching it. I have issues with the Medicaid system too.
Oh, and as someone on military insurance, where yes we're lucky enough to not pay a dime for a lot of things... the quality of care is atrocious. I made sure when we moved here that we all had civilian doctors because of how awful the level of care is through military (aka government) facilities.*
*I'm not saying the military doctors/nurses/people are awful and don't know how to do their jobs, it's all the other BS you have to go through and deal with. You never see the same doctor twice, unless it's a specialist and they happen to be the only doctor of their kind in your area. In the 4 months that the kids were assigned to a military PCM, we never ONCE saw their actual doctor. No one ever knew what the fukc was going on because they had never seen this patient before, or had just recently started working at that clinic. It was ridiculous. And the amount of red tape you have to go through to get a referral to see a specialist for anything? Yeah, it took me over 8 MONTHS to finally get approved to see a dermatologist for a suspicious mole. I'm sure glad it turned out to be benign.
No this bill isn't going to take things to that level right now, but I think the farther we get into government run healthcare the more like that it's going to be.
I think reform is needed. Healthcare is too expensive. Health insurance for my husband, son and I costs me $1,100.00 a month.
Here's a good place to start reform: tort reform. Malpractice insurance costs doctors a LOT of money. Tort reform could go a long way towards bringing costs down.
Can I "like" this? If the entire country's healthcare is going to be run the way they handle Tricare/VA, there is absolutely no hope in sight for this thing.
AMEN! Every single bit of it!!! DH is in the reserves so we aren't on Tricare or anything like that, but my sister and her family are.
They are still waiting approval for mental health counseling services for my nephew (who had something absolutely horrible happen to him that I can't disclose). The event happened back in DECEMBER and they are STILL waiting approval for it. She's had to go through all this paperwork. It's nonsense! This child needed help ASAP! So they are paying out of pocket for him to talk to someone. And they can barely afford that.
And I swear to all that is holy, if for some reason we have to give up our civi doctors over this, I will go Standard and pay the damn 20% of everything just to not have to be seen at a MTF.
My friend just texted me worried this might fvck up standard. I hate that I have to be on prime being active, but if they do anything to take away our options as dependents to even use standard, I will be seriously pissed the fvck off. I'm amazed you've even been able to get civilians on prime.
At Hood it was impossible. Well, I managed to finally get one for me by waiting to change my PCM until I knew the MTFs were full, but I couldn't get one for the kids. Here it was really easy for some reason. I called, prepared to put up a fight over it, and they were just like, ok pick one on the list, make sure they're accepting new patients, and let us know! I was beyond shocked.