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Can we discuss Seamus? AkA Semen ending with "us"?

This was in the 'Worst names you ever saw on the Bump' thread, FYI.

I guess I am just shocked that anyone doesn't know how this one is pronounced, but then again, I guess you wouldn't unless you had heard it before or were familiar with Irish names.

I love the name Saoirse but I think maybe 1 in 10 Americans can pronounce it, so I won't be using it.

Raise your hand if you don't know how to say Seamus. Then raise your hand if you do but had to look it up first.

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  • I actually really like the name Seamus. Growing up in highly Irish populated area this name was not unusual to me at all. My son has gone all through school with a really nice boy named Seamus.

    I can see how someone who comes from different areas of the country might not be able to pronounce it correctly, but to compare it to Semen just shows illiteracy to me!

  • hand is raised and I didn't even have to look it up!

    However, I also knew someone who had a dog named Seamus so to me it's a dog's name.  And to be perfectly honest, even if I didn't know a dog I think the name is terrible!

  • I love Seamus and I've never thought it was pronounced like "See-mus".

    I really love Saoirse, too, but you're right - no one will know how to pronounce it! 

  • I live in Boston as well with a high population of both Irish and Italian, depending on what block you are on, so know how to pronounce most Irish and Italian names.

    But you do have to tread softly in the Gaelic naming department since most people would not have a clue what half the names are by their spelling.

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  • I didn't know how to pronounce it until I studied the poet Seamus Heaney in college.  But we don't see many Gaelic names in Eastern NC.  I think it all depends on where you live.  Plus, as a PP mentioned, there's a Seamus in the Harry Potter books/movies so I'd bet a lot more people are aware of the correct pronunciation now than they used to be. 
  • I've never heard this name IRL. If I have, I obviously wasn't paying attention. Whenever I've seen this name on the bump, I've always seen it as see-mus. I am very good at spelling and pronunciation in the English language. This is an Irish name, not English. In the English language, it would be pronounced see-mus. Not knowing how this name is pronounced in Gaelic does not make me illiterate in the English language. I've just never heard the name so how would I know how to pronounce it? I've never cared enough to look it up until now. And now that I've looked up the pronunciation (Shay-mus), I think it's even more terrible than See-mus. Everyone comes from a different background; that affects how they perceive different things. While this name might have been normal where you grew up, it is just odd where I come from.
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    I've never heard this name IRL. If I have, I obviously wasn't paying attention. Whenever I've seen this name on the bump, I've always seen it as see-mus. I am very good at spelling and pronunciation in the English language. This is an Irish name, not English. In the English language, it would be pronounced see-mus. Not knowing how this name is pronounced in Gaelic does not make me illiterate in the English language. I've just never heard the name so how would I know how to pronounce it? I've never cared enough to look it up until now. And now that I've looked up the pronunciation (Shay-mus), I think it's even more terrible than See-mus. Everyone comes from a different background; that affects how they perceive different things. While this name might have been normal where you grew up, it is just odd where I come from.

     

    IndifferentSo...Seamus is terrible because it doesn't come from your background? Am I wrong, or is that how I just read this?

    Do you also think that names that look funny in other languages should be phonetically spelled? Shivonne? Seersha? Shaymus? I think those look wretched, and the original spellings are beautiful.

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    I've never heard this name IRL. If I have, I obviously wasn't paying attention. Whenever I've seen this name on the bump, I've always seen it as see-mus. I am very good at spelling and pronunciation in the English language. This is an Irish name, not English. In the English language, it would be pronounced see-mus. Not knowing how this name is pronounced in Gaelic does not make me illiterate in the English language. I've just never heard the name so how would I know how to pronounce it? I've never cared enough to look it up until now. And now that I've looked up the pronunciation (Shay-mus), I think it's even more terrible than See-mus. Everyone comes from a different background; that affects how they perceive different things. While this name might have been normal where you grew up, it is just odd where I come from.

    Maria isn't an English name either, but if you don't know how to pronounce it, you've got problems. 

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  • Seamus is one of our top picks if we have a boy. I'm first generation off-the-boat Irish, so I'm really leaning towards a name that is a nod to my background. Conor is an option too, but it's not as unique...

    DH and I are definitely concerned that a lot of people won't know how to pronounce it based on the spelling alone. It's a highly recognizable name when you hear it (pronounced properly), at least.

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  • When I read your heading, I was so confused!!!  I love the name Seamus (and know how to pronounce it).  To those that do not know how to pronounce it, I ask this: how to you say "Sean"?
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    imagejiffy-pop:
    I've never heard this name IRL. If I have, I obviously wasn't paying attention. Whenever I've seen this name on the bump, I've always seen it as see-mus. I am very good at spelling and pronunciation in the English language. This is an Irish name, not English. In the English language, it would be pronounced see-mus. Not knowing how this name is pronounced in Gaelic does not make me illiterate in the English language. I've just never heard the name so how would I know how to pronounce it? I've never cared enough to look it up until now. And now that I've looked up the pronunciation (Shay-mus), I think it's even more terrible than See-mus. Everyone comes from a different background; that affects how they perceive different things. While this name might have been normal where you grew up, it is just odd where I come from.

    Maria isn't an English name either, but if you don't know how to pronounce it, you've got problems. 

    This. There are many many many names used in English speaking countries that aren't actually English names.

    How do you pronounce "Sean"??


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    When I read your heading, I was so confused!!!  I love the name Seamus (and know how to pronounce it).  To those that do not know how to pronounce it, I ask this: how to you say "Sean"?

    Go down and read the other post I was talking about, I think it is on page 3, very strange.

    I didn't even think about that, yes, I would like to know how others pronounce Sean! Should they all spell it Shawn just to make it easier on Americans who can't be bothered?

  • In the same vane, how would you say Jose?

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  • Oh my gosh, that post was so ridiculous. She was all like "pronounced like semen. Really." It just was hilarious.
  • I knew how to pronounce it without looking it up, and I think it's a great name.
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  • imagejiffy-pop:
    I've never heard this name IRL. If I have, I obviously wasn't paying attention. Whenever I've seen this name on the bump, I've always seen it as see-mus. I am very good at spelling and pronunciation in the English language. This is an Irish name, not English. In the English language, it would be pronounced see-mus. Not knowing how this name is pronounced in Gaelic does not make me illiterate in the English language. I've just never heard the name so how would I know how to pronounce it? I've never cared enough to look it up until now. And now that I've looked up the pronunciation (Shay-mus), I think it's even more terrible than See-mus. Everyone comes from a different background; that affects how they perceive different things. While this name might have been normal where you grew up, it is just odd where I come from.

     If you want to use that argument you'd be pronouncing a lot of names and words incorrectly.

  • Like I said, my opinion is based on where I come from which is how you and everyone else base their opinions. I've never heard the name, and it is a name that sounds wierd to me. Yes, I know other names that have come from other countries like Maria and Jose but those are names that are VERY common. Those are names that have been "americanized," if you will. Even though they came from somewhere else a long time ago, they are common in America now. I'm not saying that all names from other countries are bad. I'm just saying I wouldn't name my child Seamus b/c I don't like the way the name sounds. I think there are names from other countries that sound very pretty but Seamus, IMO, is not one of them. I hope that explains my views a little better.

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    Like I said, my opinion is based on where I come from which is how you and everyone else base their opinions. I've never heard the name, and it is a name that sounds wierd to me. Yes, I know other names that have come from other countries like Maria and Jose but those are names that are VERY common. Those are names that have been "americanized," if you will. Even though they came from somewhere else a long time ago, they are common in America now. I'm not saying that all names from other countries are bad. I'm just saying I wouldn't name my child Seamus b/c I don't like the way the name sounds. I think there are names from other countries that sound very pretty but Seamus, IMO, is not one of them. I hope that explains my views a little better.

    I guess being from the Northeast, I think of Seamus as a fairly common name.  I see that you're from Alabama, which definitely makes your argument make sense.  (Do not take this as a negative comment against Alabama.  My point is that the Irish population in the Northeast greatly outweighs the Irish population in the south.)

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  • I actually didn't see the original post about this. I am jewish and from a very jewish area. I have heard of this name and know how to pronounce it. I never knew anyone IRL with this name. It's NMS and I obviously wouldn't use it, because well, I'm jewish and it would be odd if I named my child a very irish name. I just don't understand how someone could think that a name is horrible just because it is not from their background. Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.
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  • The first time I ever saw that name was on here.  I think I may have opened the post (i usually don't open post of names that I know i don't like b/c I figure there will be enough No), everyone loved it and I was surprised but I just said eh maybe it's popular somewhere and I'm missing it. I thought it was pronounced see-mus as well, but it didnt bother me. It just isnt a name that I would chose either way.

    So is it shay-mus or shaw-mus?  I saw someone compare Sean, so I just want to have my pronunciation correct. thanks


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    Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.

    Trust me it happens all of the time. Sad isn't it.

    oh btw i am not saying that this is what jiffy-pop meant by her comment comment bc i dont think that is where she was going with it.  Internet talk can be so messed up, often times what you are saying/typing doesn't read the way you would want it to.


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  • Seamus is a great name. Yes, I knew how to pronounce it. I definitely agree with the comments about how names like Sean and Jose are pronounced. I'm not sure why people can't figure out/understand Seamus if they get Sean and Jose. And, fwiw, I've never actually known anyone named Seamus, but I still know how to say it!

    BTW, Saoirse is also a great name!
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  • I cannot imagine this is a problem in a post-Harry Potter world.  Kids are going to know how to pronounce Seamus and Cedric and Hermione.
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    I actually didn't see the original post about this. I am jewish and from a very jewish area. I have heard of this name and know how to pronounce it. I never knew anyone IRL with this name. It's NMS and I obviously wouldn't use it, because well, I'm jewish and it would be odd if I named my child a very irish name. I just don't understand how someone could think that a name is horrible just because it is not from their background. Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.

     

     

    There are Irish Jews.  The Lord Mayor of Dublin at one point was a Jewish guy.  Robert Briscoe believed his being Jewish didn't lesson his "Irishness"

    So sure, if you aren't Irish it would be odd, but there *are*  Irish Jews!

    LOL true, but I don't have an ounce of Irish in me AND it would sound REALLY funny with my LN!

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    I actually didn't see the original post about this. I am jewish and from a very jewish area. I have heard of this name and know how to pronounce it. I never knew anyone IRL with this name. It's NMS and I obviously wouldn't use it, because well, I'm jewish and it would be odd if I named my child a very irish name. I just don't understand how someone could think that a name is horrible just because it is not from their background. Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.

    I don't like Seamus b/c it just doesn't sound good to me, not b/c it is from a different background. Let me give an example: Aiden is Gaelic and I like the way the name sounds, Seamus is Gaelic and I don't like the way it sounds. There are names in the English language that I don't like b/c they sound terrible to me. Seamus probably sounds better to someone that has been exposed to that name a lot more than I have.

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    The first time I ever saw that name was on here.  I think I may have opened the post (i usually don't open post of names that I know i don't like b/c I figure there will be enough No), everyone loved it and I was surprised but I just said eh maybe it's popular somewhere and I'm missing it. I thought it was pronounced see-mus as well, but it didnt bother me. It just isnt a name that I would chose either way.

    So is it shay-mus or shaw-mus?  I saw someone compare Sean, so I just want to have my pronunciation correct. thanks

    It's Shay-mus

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    I cannot imagine this is a problem in a post-Harry Potter world.  Kids are going to know how to pronounce Seamus and Cedric and Hermione.

    Ditto on Hermione. An actress on Mary Poppins was named Hermione Baddley and I always pronounced it Hermy-own. Thankfully I was corrected!

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    I actually didn't see the original post about this. I am jewish and from a very jewish area. I have heard of this name and know how to pronounce it. I never knew anyone IRL with this name. It's NMS and I obviously wouldn't use it, because well, I'm jewish and it would be odd if I named my child a very irish name. I just don't understand how someone could think that a name is horrible just because it is not from their background. Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.

    I don't like Seamus b/c it just doesn't sound good to me, not b/c it is from a different background. Let me give an example: Aiden is Gaelic and I like the way the name sounds, Seamus is Gaelic and I don't like the way it sounds. There are names in the English language that I don't like b/c they sound terrible to me. Seamus probably sounds better to someone that has been exposed to that name a lot more than I have.

    I get that, but if you were familiar with it I don't think you'd think twice about it. You might not like the name as in, it's nms, but it's "horrible" to you because you don't know the name AND you don't like the sound of it. Aiden is very americanized now. Seamus in Ireland is very common like John is in the US. John is nms, but I don't think it's horrible and it's not "strange" to me.

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    imagenycitylove:
    I actually didn't see the original post about this. I am jewish and from a very jewish area. I have heard of this name and know how to pronounce it. I never knew anyone IRL with this name. It's NMS and I obviously wouldn't use it, because well, I'm jewish and it would be odd if I named my child a very irish name. I just don't understand how someone could think that a name is horrible just because it is not from their background. Just because you aren't familiar with a name it's horrible? That doesn't make any sense. There are plenty of names from other backgrounds that I think are are beautiful, there are some that I don't like and there are some that I just never heard of and don't think twice about.

    I don't like Seamus b/c it just doesn't sound good to me, not b/c it is from a different background. Let me give an example: Aiden is Gaelic and I like the way the name sounds, Seamus is Gaelic and I don't like the way it sounds. There are names in the English language that I don't like b/c they sound terrible to me. Seamus probably sounds better to someone that has been exposed to that name a lot more than I have.

    I get that, but if you were familiar with it I don't think you'd think twice about it. You might not like the name as in, it's nms, but it's "horrible" to you because you don't know the name AND you don't like the sound of it. Aiden is very americanized now. Seamus in Ireland is very common like John is in the US. John is nms, but I don't think it's horrible and it's not "strange" to me.

    I think we are both making the same point.

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  • I knew.
    In college, one of my coaches was from Ireland and named Seamus.  Great guy.  Okay coach.

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    I knew.
    In college, one of my coaches was from Ireland and named Seamus.  Great guy.  Okay coach.

    For some reason this just cracked me up. Maybe it's because I could picture someone sitting there saying it out loud as they typed it.

     

    I love, love, love Gaelic names. I think they are beyond beautiful. That being said, it is a shame that you would have to consider not naming your child something because the good majority of people (depending on where you live, I suppose) would butcher it. 

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    I love, love, love Gaelic names. I think they are beyond beautiful. That being said, it is a shame that you would have to consider not naming your child something because the good majority of people (depending on where you live, I suppose) would butcher it. 

    People butcher most names. I had THE most common, easiest to pronounce last name (which is also a pretty common first name) and you would noit believe some of the ways people have said it. All it takes is one correction - usually.

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    I love, love, love Gaelic names. I think they are beyond beautiful. That being said, it is a shame that you would have to consider not naming your child something because the good majority of people (depending on where you live, I suppose) would butcher it. 

    People butcher most names. I had THE most common, easiest to pronounce last name (which is also a pretty common first name) and you would noit believe some of the ways people have said it. All it takes is one correction - usually.

     

    Wow...that's sad. I have found a lot of times if people pronounce something wrong that is only slightly unique, it is probably because they don't want to take the effort to figure it out in their head before saying it.

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  • I know how to pronounce it and I still think its a horrible name.
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  • I do know how and I did not have to look it up. Shay-mus.
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    Raise your hand if you don't know how to say Seamus. Then raise your hand if you do but had to look it up first.

     I actually do know how to pronounce Seamus, which sounds nothing like it looks (Shame-us). The only reason I know how is because I met a little 3rd grade boy with that name a few weeks ago. Cutest little boy, horrible name..


  • I'm from the south (well, Florida - does that count?), have never met a Seamus, thought it was pronounced "See-mus" until this thread, and not ashamed to admit it.  I didn't know it was Gaelic.

    Thanks for the lesson girls.  :) 

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