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DB took my chocolate lab :(
When he came for his visit yesterday he left angry, calling me a b*tch because I am trying to be very "by the book". Not letting him eat my food, take a shower, show up late without documenting it, change times, etc. He grabbed a beer from the fridge and I told him if he wanted to drink it he needed to leave. I said there would be no more drinking when he was at my home for visits. He left and I locked the door. A little while later I went out to feed the dog and he was gone. I knew instantly DB had taken him and he confirmed this in a text. I am so sad...I don't know if I will be able to get him back. Originally he was XH's dog (he is seven) but then we got married and he become "our dog". When we split he took our two other dogs and left me with our lab. And that was eight months ago. I am hoping he can't do this legally. Going to call my lawyer when they open.
It also makes me worried he would try to take DS which is obviously my worst nightmare in all of this. Think I am overreacting?
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Re: DB took my chocolate lab :(
WHOA that was kind of mean. Some dogs really like to be outside, especially labs!!! And who said she had him out there all the time.
WTF? What in the world does that have to do with anything?? Once again, lurkers from somewhere else adding two cents that is useless. I see you have your dogs inside based on siggy pics-so obviously everyone should be just like you.
Why don't you hightail it back to your own board-maybe they have a special board just for ppl with "inside dogs".
You're right I jumped to conclusions based on the post. But I've never heard of someone feeding their dog outside that doesn't in fact, live outside. It's just another one of the million reasons to not leave your dogs outside, unattended (which was clearly done).
They do, it's called the "responsible dog owner" board which you obviously wouldn't belong.
You kept your dog outside. It was stolen. Which is the #1 reason why dogs should be kept inside. I will be saving your post for all the "dogs should be kept outside" arguments that happen on the boards. Thank you for providing a stunning example.
Um, had your dog not been banished to the outdoors, he'd still be with you right now. Pretty revelant, actually.
Right, I am sorry, ppl that leave their dogs outside in their KENNEL inside their YARD, on their PROPERTY deserve to have them stolen. Thanks for clearing that up for me! So if someone comes and steals my car from my garage that's ok too, or the lawnmower, because it is OUTSIDE. Once again, you are posting here because why??
If that's how you view your dog, as a piece of property, then you don't deserve to have one anyway. And, as far as I know, it's a PUBLIC message board and I can post anywhere I damn well please.
Untwist your panties, I didn't say you deserve to have your dog stolen. I said it's the #1 reason why you shouldn't keep your dog outside. #2 is because people can and do poison outside dogs as nuisances. #3 is threat from other animals and stinging insects. #4 is increased likelyhood of running away. Should I continue?
Last I checked there wasn't a guard on the board prohibiting me from posting.
As far as your dog, yes, he is considered property, so call the police and report the theft. You'll have to provide records that you own the dog (vet records, licensing records, etc.). If you have the records in your possession then the dog is yours and legally you can get him back. I suggest keeping him inside to avoid further complications.
This is a nice suggestion but likely won't work for several reasons. DS is inside and Tug is a large dog and knocks him over because he is playful. Also my house is pretty small for a 70 lb dog. Another point that everyone who is lurking and posting about what an irresponsible pet owner I am fails to see is that the problem is with XH....I am very concerned he will take DS given his actions with Tug. He is 6'1, 240 plus pounds and BSC and on drugs....keeping the dog inside wouldn't stop him from taking him, or from taking DS.
Train your dog (crate training, NILIF, etc.). People keep dogs and babies in small houses all the time. Yes, it takes training and work, but it's doable.
Do you have a restraining order on your ex? If not, I would file one immediately. Stealing your dog should give you good cause. Your dog was outside unsupervised making it an easy target. Your ex might think twice before physically breaking into the house.
wow thanks PETA for jumping in on our board... If you knew anything about breeding you'd know that your dogs (considering they don't look like toy dogs) want to be outside. I grew up with a St. Bernard and she refused to come in the house, in the summer we would let her stay outside in OUR YARD and give her water and food (during the day) - she loved interacting with the neighbors and laying in the sun... I think you people are fvcking crazy and need to hightail it back to your own damn board...
achase: sorry DB took the lab!!! It sounds like that was the only thing he could think of to piss you off... I'd definitely do like PP said and go and take him out of his yard. But I also agree that 3 dogs is going to be too much responsibility for him so I'm sure he'll come around.
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I usually don't weigh in on stuff like this, but there is no reason for some of these responses.
To the inside dog advocates, yes, the dog was outside, but that is not sufficient reason to turn the tragedy back on the victim. Dogs need to be outside, although op didn't say the dog is out all the time. My father was a licensed dog breeder and trainer my entire life, my sister currently trains and handles police dogs, so I have owned and raised (and loved) many, many dogs in my life. People do feed their dogs outside, even if the dog does not primarily live outside. The fact that she went outside to feed her dog is not sufficient evidence that he solely lives outside. The point of the post was not "please tell me how to raise by dog" but rather "I need to deal with a terrible ex who could even do such a thing," so turning this post into an argument about dog raising is a bit beside the point.
I recognize your 4 reasons for keeping dogs inside, however, they are really quite exceptional.
1- the dog wasn't stolen by some random klepto who was out stealing dogs
2- anyone who would go to such lengths as to poison a dog who is a nuisance would have to be someone who is constantly irritated with the dog, narrowing that down to a neighbor who lives nearby. a neighbor will usually talk to the owner first, followed by calling the police if the problem does not get resolved.
3-threats from other animals (in this case one big enough to hurt a chocolate lab?) can easily be avoided with a fence. insect bites can happen anywhere, while walking the dog or even inside the home.
4- finally, one that is valid. there is an increased chance of a dog running away if they are outside. however, a responsible dog owner will be able to train their dog not to run away, rather than relying on keeping them constantly housebound.
Hi, ignorance, thanks for making an appearance in this thread. Many, many behaviorists and studies have proven that it's better to have an inside dog both behavioral and safety wise. If you're the *responsible* human you don't let your dog do whatever it wants to do.
Thanks kjh44. He doesn't have a yard because he is here there and everywhere. He has an apt 4 hours away and is in between living there and here. But when he stays here he sleeps at his shop in the office....I don't even know where he will keep the dog! Hopefully he will bring him back.
And the answer to the restraining order ? is that I had one but it was temporary. I am trying to get it reinstated.
1. The dog was STOLEN. Doesn't matter by who.
2. I've known 4 dogs in my lifetime that were poisoned by someone in different neighborhoods. I know several other people that know poisoned dogs. It happens.
3. The neighbor dog behind us was in a secure privacy fence. Another dog jumped the fence and they fought. Both dogs had severe lacerations before they were found. Another dog I know was killed by bee stings, and several others I know were bitten by fire ants.
4. Please tell me how you would stop a dog with high prey drive from running away without someone to recall them back to the yard. I'm all ears.
Thank you for posting. I think all of those points are very valid. My post had nothing to do with whether or not Tug is an inside or an outside dog (btw he is BOTH). But thank you for your thoughts. You made a great deal more sense than other drive-by posters.
It sounds like maybe you should just move to a safer neighborhood... I've never seen/heard of these problems happening anywhere close to where I live... and as for number 4. I thought you were talking to us about how "bad" we were at training our dogs... my St. Bernard use to take walks with us and we never had to have her on a leash because she was so well trained. She listened 100% to every command and we never once had a problem.
This.
Two were small town rural NE, just about as safe as you can come. 2 were small city, again very safe with low crime rate.
As for your #4 comment, how does that compare apples to oranges? I'm sorry, but training your dog to walk on a leash is very different than training a dog with high prey drive from bolting. You can train the dog to live in the house peacefully, and work with their tendencies. However, giving them the opportunity to bolt is just foolish.
I'm sure your neighbors were thrilled that your dog walked without a leash. I know I always am when I encounter unleashed dogs.
Of course you would agree. As I said in the other post, outside supervised time is fine. As for the other examples, there's a difference between being "right there" and to finding your dog dead after a few hours because no one was there to see the reaction. Big difference.
BrittAny Nicole
Thank you! The horse is dead ppl. Move on.
Honestly there should not have been an issue in the first place. Is the person who started this a single mom? I just feel like this is a safe place. We already have enough on our overflowing plate that we don't need to be guilted for putting the dog outside.
BrittAny Nicole
Achase, I leave my lab UNATTENDED outside and in the backyard. She's a big dog, loves the outdoors, and makes a mess when she eats (I broke my foot 5 years ago from her slopping water all over the kitchen floor). She barks a lot, so if anything were to go wrong I would hear it. I don't banish her to the outdoors, in fact she's sleeping on my couch right now. But I refuse to sit outside and chase her around the yard when I'm ready for her to come inside though. I don't think you did anything wrong. I hope you get your baby back. You X is an ass.
Sometimes people like to inflict misery on others. There is not enough drama in their "perfect lives", so they feel the need to bring it over here.
Yes, yes I am.
Lol. The person who started the drama by yelling at you. She is kinda a b!tch. And I just don't see how another single mom would do that.
BrittAny Nicole
I think she was referring to the original flame. Which in that case, no... the b*tch on her high horse is not a single mom. That's why she can't see the sacrifices that we as single parents have to make.
Oh got it!