Trying to stir up trouble on a board that you rarely post (at least with this
SN) on isn't on my list of 'okay', either. Especially if it is due to
the person who posted OP.
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Didn't get the answers you wanted on 12-24 so you thought you would try again here?
Actually no, I am really and truly offended and shocked. I did NOT think EFF would tolerate such hate.
As I posted in your thread on 12-24, even though it was so obvious to you, I didn't realize it was faked. Do I think faking a sign like that is insensitive and offensive? Yes. Do I think that if such a sign were to exist for real, it would be internet fodder? Also yes.
Would you be so offended and shocked if it weren't photoshopped and was a real sign?
I only ask because that seemed to be a major point on your 12-24 post and it never crossed my mind that it would be photoshopped until you said something about it (think the "headlines" bit on Jay Leno ...)
Didn't get the answers you wanted on 12-24 so you thought you would try again here?
Actually no, I am really and truly offended and shocked. I did NOT think EFF would tolerate such hate.
As I posted in your thread on 12-24, even though it was so obvious to you, I didn't realize it was faked. Do I think faking a sign like that is insensitive and offensive? Yes. Do I think that if such a sign were to exist for real, it would be internet fodder? Also yes.
Are we talking about the Chinese food sign about the cats?
Didn't get the answers you wanted on 12-24 so you thought you would try again here?
Actually no, I am really and truly offended and shocked. I did NOT think EFF would tolerate such hate.
As I posted in your thread on 12-24, even though it was so obvious to you, I didn't realize it was faked. Do I think faking a sign like that is insensitive and offensive? Yes. Do I think that if such a sign were to exist for real, it would be internet fodder? Also yes.
Are we talking about the Chinese food sign about the cats?
Trying to stir up trouble on a board that you rarely post (at least with thisSN) on isn't on my list of 'okay', either. Especially if it is due tothe person who posted OP.
alert! alert! board police, LOL!
c'mon I'm here all the time.
I like my badge!
Honestly, I didn't even know what the issue was when you posted, as I didn't think it was photoshoped, and didn't even realize there was a stereotype of persons of Asian descent chopping up house cats. It's hard to find something offensive when it needs that much background.
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Ok, seriously, do you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble? If you hadn't noticed hardly anyone replied to the post you're referencing. I don't know why you need to make this a board-wide thing. If you want to stay and post about EFF related items feel free. If you just want to cause trouble please leave. We like our drama free status.
Trying to stir up trouble on a board that you rarely post (at least with thisSN) on isn't on my list of 'okay', either. Especially if it is due tothe person who posted OP.
alert! alert! board police, LOL!
c'mon I'm here all the time.
I like my badge!
Honestly, I didn't even know what the issue was when you posted, as I didn't think it was photoshoped, and didn't even realize there was a stereotype of persons of Asian descent chopping up house cats. It's hard to find something offensive when it needs that much background.
Well, exactly. I thought the shop proprietor was just tired of being
asked about a lost cat and was not entirely fluent. I didn't realize
all the background until I read the links on 12-24.
Would you be so offended and shocked if it weren't photoshopped and was a real sign?
I only ask because that seemed to be a major point on your 12-24 post and it never crossed my mind that it would be photoshopped until you said something about it (think the "headlines" bit on Jay Leno ...)
How would that ever be a real sign? It is a mockery of how an Asian speaks English, but written and spoken English are different.
And it is very obviously a "sign generator." I think the people who could even conceive of it as a real sign have a funky latent bias that is worth examining, no?
I didn't know that "sign generators" even existed let alone would assume that someone was using one on a particular occasion. I have seen menus with incorrect English on them, so why would a sign be any different? Call me naive or gullible for not immediately knowing about such things but to leap to thinking that everyone should automatically know that a particular picture is not real is a bit ridiculous.
Was it badly construed humor? Yes. Did I find it offensive? No.
This.
Also when I lived in China a lot of the English translations were extremely funny (ie: the sign in the park with a picture of a dog squatting over steaming poo inside the red "do not circle" and the English "translation" said "do not let your animal shiit here") or offensive (translation on a handicapped bathroom "retards bathroom") or a combination of the two (another handicapped bathroom said "old hag bathroom") I have a memory card full of them.
Ok, seriously, do you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble? If you hadn't noticed hardly anyone replied to the post you're referencing. I don't know why you need to make this a board-wide thing. If you want to stay and post about EFF related items feel free. If you just want to cause trouble please leave. We like our drama free status.
yup, calling our a racist and culturally insesitive post is "stirring up trouble"
If I wanted to do that I would have commented in another post, kwim?
Please clarify - by 'would have commented in another post' do you mean you would have brought it over to 12-24??
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Ok, seriously, do you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble? If you hadn't noticed hardly anyone replied to the post you're referencing. I don't know why you need to make this a board-wide thing. If you want to stay and post about EFF related items feel free. If you just want to cause trouble please leave. We like our drama free status.
yup, calling our a racist and culturally insesitive post is "stirring up trouble"
If I wanted to do that I would have commented in another post, kwim?
Please clarify - by 'would have commented in another post' do you mean you would have brought it over to 12-24??
Seriously. You posted in the original post, on 12-24, and made another thread here about it. Which part of that was not commenting in another post?
Would you be so offended and shocked if it weren't photoshopped and was a real sign?
I only ask because that seemed to be a major point on your 12-24 post and it never crossed my mind that it would be photoshopped until you said something about it (think the "headlines" bit on Jay Leno ...)
How would that ever be a real sign? It is a mockery of how an Asian speaks English, but written and spoken English are different.
And it is very obviously a "sign generator." I think the people who could even conceive of it as a real sign have a funky latent bias that is worth examining, no?
I didn't know that "sign generators" even existed let alone would assume that someone was using one on a particular occasion. I have seen menus with incorrect English on them, so why would a sign be any different? Call me naive or gullible for not immediately knowing about such things but to leap to thinking that everyone should automatically know that a particular picture is not real is a bit ridiculous.
well then maybe you should have read the thread about calling pork "kitty on a stick" or the like.
It's xenophobic nonsense and I don't for one hot second believe you can't see that.
If you want to start noting posts for people to read (I will say I didn't see the sign when originally posted or anything else related), try the one entitled "gtky" from earlier today and look at what I do for a living. I didn't say I thought it was funny, I actually thought it was more sad because I assumed that someone was harassing the restaurant owners based on a stereotype. My point, like other posters in here, is that you immediately leapt to certain conclusions and faulted anyone who didn't follow your line of thinking thus making it into a bigger deal than what it needed to be.
Why do you continue to come here, Brahim? This happens every.single.time you visit.
You know we are a happy people. Are you so incredibly miserable that you have an insatiable need to stir trouble among those of us who aren't inherently snarky?
Ok, seriously, do you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble? If you hadn't noticed hardly anyone replied to the post you're referencing. I don't know why you need to make this a board-wide thing. If you want to stay and post about EFF related items feel free. If you just want to cause trouble please leave. We like our drama free status.
yup, calling our a racist and culturally insesitive post is "stirring up trouble"
If I wanted to do that I would have commented in another post, kwim?
Please clarify - by 'would have commented in another post' do you mean you would have brought it over to 12-24??
Seriously. You posted in the original post, on 12-24, and made another thread here about it. Which part of that was not commenting in another post?
I meant another flammable post on EFF. There are plenty of flammable things on EFF; I just object vocally to racist ones. I'm not stirring up trouble, I am standing up here there and everywhere against what I consider hate speech. And not just the picture the rest of the post.
Disagree with me, but I don't let racist schit stand w/o opposing it.
Ok, seriously, do you have nothing better to do than stir up trouble? If you hadn't noticed hardly anyone replied to the post you're referencing. I don't know why you need to make this a board-wide thing. If you want to stay and post about EFF related items feel free. If you just want to cause trouble please leave. We like our drama free status.
yup, calling our a racist and culturally insesitive post is "stirring up trouble"
If I wanted to do that I would have commented in another post, kwim?
Please clarify - by 'would have commented in another post' do you mean you would have brought it over to 12-24??
Seriously. You posted in the original post, on 12-24, and made another thread here about it. Which part of that was not commenting in another post?
I meant another flammable post on EFF. There are plenty of flammable things on EFF; I just object vocally to racist ones. I'm not stirring up trouble, I am standing up here there and everywhere against what I consider hate speech. And not just the picture the rest of the post.
Disagree with me, but I don't let racist schit stand w/o opposing it.
Awesome. I predict that you will, singlehandedly, save the world.
Papagena, I get it. You like Jenni and not me. Fair enough. But I find this racist, insensitive and offensive, and I will take it everywhere I chose. I am completely flabbergasted that people fail to recognize the rudeness involved in insulting Asians.
I find it repugnant that people defend actions like this, finding humor in xenophobia, or rationalizing it. Someone has to beat a drum that stuff like this isn't okay. If it's my turn today, so be it.
For the record, I'm not sure what I think of you... but I think a mountain is being made out of a molehill in this case. If we all took this much offense to every offhand comment or post, well, we'd have to create spin off boards and AE's. And we're too lazy for that.
It's not like OP had a ton of 'oh that is hilarious' comments, either.
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Papagena, I get it. You like Jenni and not me. Fair enough. But I find this racist, insensitive and offensive, and I will take it everywhere I chose. I am completely flabbergasted that people fail to recognize the rudeness involved in insulting Asians.
I find it repugnant that people defend actions like this, finding humor in xenophobia, or rationalizing it. Someone has to beat a drum that stuff like this isn't okay. If it's my turn today, so be it.
EVEN BETTER! Not only will you save the world, but you get to be the martyr at the same time!
Why do you continue to come here, Brahim? This happens every.single.time you visit.
You know we are a happy people. Are you so incredibly miserable that you have an insatiable need to stir trouble among those of us who aren't inherently snarky?
Like it or not, I am part of EFF. I post here, I read here. It's not your board, luv, it's OURS. I am a part of it.
And don't let your dislike of me get in the way of seeing a really offensive thing. If MY friend made a racist post, I'd call it out, too.
Hate on me all you want, but at least break the spell of understand latent xenophobia and racism. It's offensive. It's wrong.
I read stuff all the time that I don't like. I consider posting, but decide to ignore it for board harmony. But stuff like this needs to be called out for what it is.
::content sigh::
You've officially pulled out the Savior of the World card, the Martyr card, and now the I'm So Benevolant and I am a Part of Your Board cards.
You are right, Brahim. I was wrong. Please, please, can you find it in your ever-loving green heart to forgive me?
And it is very obviously a "sign generator." I think the people who could even conceive of it as a real sign have a funky latent bias that is worth examining, no?
Actually, I had no idea it was a sign generator. If you want to call me biased, you're free to do so. But, I live in a town where a church had a sign that said, "Have you found Jesus? No, he is not missing." so I tend to take things like that at face value. Maybe you should just call me stupid, instead.
And it is very obviously a "sign generator." I think the people who could even conceive of it as a real sign have a funky latent bias that is worth examining, no?
Actually, I had no idea it was a sign generator. If you want to call me biased, you're free to do so. But, I live in a town where a church had a sign that said, "Have you found Jesus? No, he is not missing." so I tend to take things like that at face value. Maybe you should just call me stupid, instead.
i didn't know either dobie - we can be dumb together
Re: Racist posts are not okay.
Depends on if they have no clue, at all, about the culture. Sometimes ignorance is just ignorance with no malice.
Now I need a link, or pushed in the right direction...
this. plain naiive ignorance is one thing....
As I posted in your thread on 12-24, even though it was so obvious to you, I didn't realize it was faked. Do I think faking a sign like that is insensitive and offensive? Yes. Do I think that if such a sign were to exist for real, it would be internet fodder? Also yes.
Would you be so offended and shocked if it weren't photoshopped and was a real sign?
I only ask because that seemed to be a major point on your 12-24 post and it never crossed my mind that it would be photoshopped until you said something about it (think the "headlines" bit on Jay Leno ...)
Are we talking about the Chinese food sign about the cats?
Yes.
I like my badge!
Honestly, I didn't even know what the issue was when you posted, as I didn't think it was photoshoped, and didn't even realize there was a stereotype of persons of Asian descent chopping up house cats. It's hard to find something offensive when it needs that much background.
Oh.
  
Was it badly construed humor? Yes. Did I find it offensive? No.
I will say that kinda got me, but I didn't spend much time on it. Although I will forever love the friend rice on my favorite Chineese menu....
Well, exactly. I thought the shop proprietor was just tired of being asked about a lost cat and was not entirely fluent. I didn't realize all the background until I read the links on 12-24.
So no, I didn't find it offensive.I didn't know that "sign generators" even existed let alone would assume that someone was using one on a particular occasion. I have seen menus with incorrect English on them, so why would a sign be any different? Call me naive or gullible for not immediately knowing about such things but to leap to thinking that everyone should automatically know that a particular picture is not real is a bit ridiculous.
This.
Also when I lived in China a lot of the English translations were extremely funny (ie: the sign in the park with a picture of a dog squatting over steaming poo inside the red "do not circle" and the English "translation" said "do not let your animal shiit here") or offensive (translation on a handicapped bathroom "retards bathroom") or a combination of the two (another handicapped bathroom said "old hag bathroom") I have a memory card full of them.
Please clarify - by 'would have commented in another post' do you mean you would have brought it over to 12-24??
Seriously. You posted in the original post, on 12-24, and made another thread here about it. Which part of that was not commenting in another post?
If you want to start noting posts for people to read (I will say I didn't see the sign when originally posted or anything else related), try the one entitled "gtky" from earlier today and look at what I do for a living. I didn't say I thought it was funny, I actually thought it was more sad because I assumed that someone was harassing the restaurant owners based on a stereotype. My point, like other posters in here, is that you immediately leapt to certain conclusions and faulted anyone who didn't follow your line of thinking thus making it into a bigger deal than what it needed to be.
Why do you continue to come here, Brahim? This happens every.single.time you visit.
You know we are a happy people. Are you so incredibly miserable that you have an insatiable need to stir trouble among those of us who aren't inherently snarky?
Awesome. I predict that you will, singlehandedly, save the world.
For the record, I'm not sure what I think of you... but I think a mountain is being made out of a molehill in this case. If we all took this much offense to every offhand comment or post, well, we'd have to create spin off boards and AE's. And we're too lazy for that.
It's not like OP had a ton of 'oh that is hilarious' comments, either.
Papagena, I get it. You like Jenni and not me. Fair enough. But I find this racist, insensitive and offensive, and I will take it everywhere I chose. I am completely flabbergasted that people fail to recognize the rudeness involved in insulting Asians.
I find it repugnant that people defend actions like this, finding humor in xenophobia, or rationalizing it. Someone has to beat a drum that stuff like this isn't okay. If it's my turn today, so be it.
EVEN BETTER! Not only will you save the world, but you get to be the martyr at the same time!::content sigh::
You've officially pulled out the Savior of the World card, the Martyr card, and now the I'm So Benevolant and I am a Part of Your Board cards.
You are right, Brahim. I was wrong. Please, please, can you find it in your ever-loving green heart to forgive me?
Actually, I had no idea it was a sign generator. If you want to call me biased, you're free to do so. But, I live in a town where a church had a sign that said, "Have you found Jesus? No, he is not missing." so I tend to take things like that at face value. Maybe you should just call me stupid, instead.
i didn't know either dobie - we can be dumb together