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Luna's Sad IVF Update (long)

First of all, I saw all of the well-wishes last week while I was at my appointment so I want to thank you guys.  It meant a lot.  Here's my update:

My first appointment was with only a nurse.  She gave me my med protocol and told me that my RE suddenly and without warning retired and is no longer there. Sad

Then I got a call the next day to tell me that the nurse gave me the wrong protocol and I got a new one without full training on the new meds. Angry

Then I meet with the RE who is filling in for my sweet, wonderful, optimistic RE who left.  The new RE tells me that we should not expect this to go well, my eggs are too old, he would never have recommended doing this without using donor eggs and to expect the worst. He gave it a 5% chance of working and wants to call it a "Convert to IVF" instead of IVF.  What this means is that if I don't produce at least 4 follies at 16mm or better, he will cancel it and won't let me continue without donor eggs. Crying

Then after all of that news, while I am crying my eyes out, he says "OK, that's the last time we will talk about any of this because if we are going to do it we need to be positive and believe it will work".  Wow, thanks.  I believed it would work until you told me it had no chance in hell.  Thanks new RE. Super Angry

HOWEVER, I say F that guy, I am going to prove him wrong and this IVF will work.  He made me want this to work even more now.  If it doesn't, I will find a new RE.  I'm not ready to give up yet. Smile

Ladies, getting old sucks.  Embrace your youth.

4/08 BFP resulted in m/c
8/08 BFP resulted in m/c
3/09 Polyp removed and dx MTHFR (both copies)
6 Clomid cycles, all BFN
5/09 IUI#1 with Clomid=BFN
6/09 IUI#2 with Clomid=BFN
8/09 IUI#3 with Clomid=BFN
IVF#1 = BFN
IVF#2 = BFN
IVF#3 ET 2 Grade A blasts 11/16/11
Beta #1: 485
Beta #2: 2,495
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Re: Luna's Sad IVF Update (long)

  • Eff him is right. I want to kick him in the nuts for you.

    This is your cycle, and I can't wait for him to eat serious crow.

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  • Oh luna, I'm so sorry. What a crappy thing for him to say. I know you will prove him wrong! I will be praying for you (((HUGS)))
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  • WTF that guy sucks!  I pray you and your eggs prove him wrong!!!
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  • I sooo hope this IVF cycle works for you luna!  I got sad news from the IRL friend who has done (now) 6 failed IVF cycles.  They are now moving on to donor eggs for the same reason. Their last cycle -that just ended-they only had 1 embie...and it did not take.  IF and getting old sucks the big one!  

    Wishing you the VERY best, luna! 

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  • OMG, Luna, no!!! That is so unfair. WTF, you RE retired and you never heard?

    Do you go to CCRM? There's a lady in my support group who went there after like, I dunno 72 failed IVFs and 438157 failed IUIs. She LOVES them. There's another lady considering going (from Arizona).

  • I'm so sorry that the new RE sucks, but you have an amazing attitude and I know you are going to prove him wrong!  Good luck!!!!!  Please keep us posted on how the cycle is going.
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  • Wow a negative unpleasant person....who has the nerve to tell you to be positive.  Prove him wrong girly!!
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    OMG, Luna, no!!! That is so unfair. WTF, you RE retired and you never heard?

    Do you go to CCRM? There's a lady in my support group who went there after like, I dunno 72 failed IVFs and 438157 failed IUIs. She LOVES them. There's another lady considering going (from Arizona).

    I do not go to CCRM but it's funny you mentioned it because I just told DH last night that we are going there if this doesn't work.  I loved my RE.  He went on a leave of absence a month ago and they just told me that he isn't coming back.  There's no way I'm staying at this place if this IVF fails.

    4/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    8/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    3/09 Polyp removed and dx MTHFR (both copies)
    6 Clomid cycles, all BFN
    5/09 IUI#1 with Clomid=BFN
    6/09 IUI#2 with Clomid=BFN
    8/09 IUI#3 with Clomid=BFN
    IVF#1 = BFN
    IVF#2 = BFN
    IVF#3 ET 2 Grade A blasts 11/16/11
    Beta #1: 485
    Beta #2: 2,495
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  • I'm so sorry.  He just sucks.  I hope you prove him wrong and call him on it.
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  • what a douchy mcdoucherson.  I would have walked about and been calling a new RE on the way out.  This IS your cycle! It will go perfect!
  • (((hugs)))

    eff that guy.  This will work. 

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  • The new RE sucks ballz.  That is ridiculous.  I pray that you prove him wrong!!
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  • Ugh to your new RE.  I hope you prove him wrong!
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  • What a jack ass!  I am sorry your appointment didn't go well.
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  • Wow, what a douche!  I hope this is your cycle and you can prove him wrong.  Or if not, definitely find a new dr.  I'm so sorry.
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  • I'm so sorry.  I'm praying that you prove him wrong. 
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  • I'm sorry this RE sucks. Def prove him wrong!
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  • what a douche monkey! Super Angry

    Prove him wrong!!!

  • Omgosh, that guy sounds like such a douche! Who acts like that? I am so pulling for you to prove him wrong, too :-) Lots of T&P for you dear!
  • I'm sorry stand in RE is such an asshat.

    I hope you totally prove him wrong!

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  • Aw, I'm so sorry he sucks so bad!  Can you switch to a different RE or did you already start the meds for this cycle?
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  • What a terrible thing to tell you!!! Obviously thats how he approaches everything. Talk about blunt!!

    I know that this will be a success, Luna!! Keep your head held high! When do you start your protocol??

    Oh, Baby Bean! We will always miss you! With us for 6w3d -- June 9, 2008.
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    Aw, I'm so sorry he sucks so bad!  Can you switch to a different RE or did you already start the meds for this cycle?

    The meds have been ordered so I think I will go through with it.  All the insurance has been straightened out and all. I don't want to delay it.  Especially if my eggs are wilting.

    4/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    8/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    3/09 Polyp removed and dx MTHFR (both copies)
    6 Clomid cycles, all BFN
    5/09 IUI#1 with Clomid=BFN
    6/09 IUI#2 with Clomid=BFN
    8/09 IUI#3 with Clomid=BFN
    IVF#1 = BFN
    IVF#2 = BFN
    IVF#3 ET 2 Grade A blasts 11/16/11
    Beta #1: 485
    Beta #2: 2,495
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    What a terrible thing to tell you!!! Obviously thats how he approaches everything. Talk about blunt!!

    I know that this will be a success, Luna!! Keep your head held high! When do you start your protocol??

    I actually have b/w scheduled for tomorrow and I start the estrace on Wednesday.  I have been preparing my body for this IVF for 4 months now so I don't understand why all the negativity, you know?  Why is he assuming it won't go better than the last one?

    4/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    8/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    3/09 Polyp removed and dx MTHFR (both copies)
    6 Clomid cycles, all BFN
    5/09 IUI#1 with Clomid=BFN
    6/09 IUI#2 with Clomid=BFN
    8/09 IUI#3 with Clomid=BFN
    IVF#1 = BFN
    IVF#2 = BFN
    IVF#3 ET 2 Grade A blasts 11/16/11
    Beta #1: 485
    Beta #2: 2,495
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  • Luna, I'm praying you prove this asshat wrong!  Sorry the way your appointment went.
  • I'm sorry Luna. What a terrible thing for him to say to you. I am hoping and praying that you prove that jerk wrong. Hang in there Luna. ::crossing my fingers and toes for you::

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    What a terrible thing to tell you!!! Obviously thats how he approaches everything. Talk about blunt!!

    I know that this will be a success, Luna!! Keep your head held high! When do you start your protocol??

    I actually have b/w scheduled for tomorrow and I start the estrace on Wednesday.  I have been preparing my body for this IVF for 4 months now so I don't understand why all the negativity, you know?  Why is he assuming it won't go better than the last one?

    What a terrible way to start out a new relationship with the guy. He seems so matter-of-fact and sticks with statistics... but come on! Even science is wrong sometimes. There are plenty of happy older moms that I would bet would be willing to show him he's wrong!

    BTW - I have a beta on Friday and if its negative, start BCP next week. I finally got approval! We'll be in this together!

    Oh, Baby Bean! We will always miss you! With us for 6w3d -- June 9, 2008.
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  • What a total douche!!
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    What a terrible thing to tell you!!! Obviously thats how he approaches everything. Talk about blunt!!

    I know that this will be a success, Luna!! Keep your head held high! When do you start your protocol??

    I actually have b/w scheduled for tomorrow and I start the estrace on Wednesday.  I have been preparing my body for this IVF for 4 months now so I don't understand why all the negativity, you know?  Why is he assuming it won't go better than the last one?

    What a terrible way to start out a new relationship with the guy. He seems so matter-of-fact and sticks with statistics... but come on! Even science is wrong sometimes. There are plenty of happy older moms that I would bet would be willing to show him he's wrong!

    BTW - I have a beta on Friday and if its negative, start BCP next week. I finally got approval! We'll be in this together!

    Wow!  Well, I hope you are KU and don't have to deal with this crap.  But, if you do, I'm glad to have an IVF buddy!!  Yours will work for sure though.  I know it.  You will be KU soon!!!!

    4/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    8/08 BFP resulted in m/c
    3/09 Polyp removed and dx MTHFR (both copies)
    6 Clomid cycles, all BFN
    5/09 IUI#1 with Clomid=BFN
    6/09 IUI#2 with Clomid=BFN
    8/09 IUI#3 with Clomid=BFN
    IVF#1 = BFN
    IVF#2 = BFN
    IVF#3 ET 2 Grade A blasts 11/16/11
    Beta #1: 485
    Beta #2: 2,495
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    imageislelily:

    What a terrible thing to tell you!!! Obviously thats how he approaches everything. Talk about blunt!!

    I know that this will be a success, Luna!! Keep your head held high! When do you start your protocol??

    I actually have b/w scheduled for tomorrow and I start the estrace on Wednesday.  I have been preparing my body for this IVF for 4 months now so I don't understand why all the negativity, you know?  Why is he assuming it won't go better than the last one?

    What a terrible way to start out a new relationship with the guy. He seems so matter-of-fact and sticks with statistics... but come on! Even science is wrong sometimes. There are plenty of happy older moms that I would bet would be willing to show him he's wrong!

    BTW - I have a beta on Friday and if its negative, start BCP next week. I finally got approval! We'll be in this together!

    Wow!  Well, I hope you are KU and don't have to deal with this crap.  But, if you do, I'm glad to have an IVF buddy!!  Yours will work for sure though.  I know it.  You will be KU soon!!!!

    Thanks. :) With adversity comes triumph, right? I would love to see this guy get knocked back a few with your BFP this month. And maybe he'll take a different approach with his other patients then!

    Oh, Baby Bean! We will always miss you! With us for 6w3d -- June 9, 2008.
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  • Well fvcking A.  Thanks for being positive sucky RE dude.  Eff that douchemaster...this is it.  This is THE cycle. You can do it!!!!
  • I'm sorry. New RE=asshat. It will work Smile
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  • I want to kick that guy's @ss! I can't believe how he treated you! What a schizo. I am praying and praying and praying that you DO prove him wrong and you get two sticky babies. :)
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  • I can't wait for you to prove him wrong. :::hugs:::
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  • You are going to prove him wrong, Luna. I will be praying very hard for your 4+ follies and I want updates on your progress. I have faith in this round!

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    10/08 Clomid Cycle #1 = m/c 11/7/08 (6 weeks)
    03/09 Clomid Cycle #2 = BFN
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    10/18/09 2nd Break Cycle (post HSG) before IVF #1 = BFP!

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  • you are going to show him!! we believe in you! ((hugs)) sorry you had to deal with his crap.
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  • What an @ss....I would have kicked him right in the nutz...I know this is your cycle...You prove him wrong hun!

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  • He needs to be poked in the eyeballs. In the eyes and balls. You will prove him worng, I can't wait to meet your twins :)
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  • Oh and remember those 6 follies I envisioned??? They are now 16. Just sayin'.
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  • Who is this kook doling out negativity to our Luna??  Boo on him.  Keep your positive outlook.  You've got tons of positive vibes coming your way!  I really hope this is your cycle!!
     
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