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Nurses/Drs hate women who don't get medication
I threw a shower for a friend this weekend. Her cousin is a nurse in the maternity ward. Someone asked her about medication & the cousin said that nurses & drs hate people who don't get it. I didn't say anything b/c I didn't want to get into a debate at the shower I was hosting BUT how rude! Nurses & drs should support whatever the woman decides to do. It makes me sad how most drs have gotten away from putting the woman & baby first & put their schedule first by trying to schedule inductions & c/s.
On the other hand, I can see how it would make their job easier but still....
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Re: Nurses/Drs hate women who don't get medication
Maybe at that hospital.
My sister is a L&D nurse and the actually promote natural labor as they feel it is easiest on the baby while passing through the birth canal - since mom can actually feel pushing.
I think you are making a generalization on a topic that shouldn't really be generalized.
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Not at my DR's office they are all about natural childbirth... but I'm not, give me the drugs!! haha
Thankfully, I will be at the same hospital I was at with DD & they didn't seem to be bothered by it.
You can most definitely refuse a c-section if it's not a medical emergency. My sister's first labor took *forever* (or so it seemed). The dr kept wanting her to do a c-section because it was taking so long, but my sister refused. There was nothing wrong with the baby, he just didn't want to come out yet. Eventually they used the vacuum to get my nephew out instead.
I said most drs but there have been studies & drs have admitted to doing this. My dr tried to schedule an induction before her vacation.....Not cool. I was only 38 weeks.
A friend of mine is an obgyn and is completely open to whatever the woman wants as far as birth plans go but she said on occasion they get the mom who thinks she wants a med free birth but has not properly prepared herself and wants an epi at transition or those over the top moms who want will not budge on their birth plans no matter what even though baby may be compromised.
It's extremely important to find a dr who you jive with as far as interventions go. That way you'll be much happier. Some women want to be induced while others want to labor at home until they're ready to push. To each their own, just find someone you like:)
Ditto this. I am an RN (althought not in L&D) but one of my good friends works in L&D. She is one of the nurses who is a huge advocate for whatever the woman wants, and who puts the safety of the mom and baby first. Granted, there are a few "old fashioned" nurses who think all women should get the epi and be done with it. If you end up not liking your nurse, you can always request another one.
I do think that there are a few things that docs and nurses encourage you to do (i.e. getting an IV), that some people would rather not have, but unless you are in the medical field you wouldnt understand the necessity of this and how they are simply preparing for what could happen and putting your best interest in mind.
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You most certainly can refuse a c/s in that case. They did the SAME thing to my friend. And then moved the c/s up b/c of something else that came up in the drs schedule.
She went on to say that they are easier to deal with. I don't think she would care about what each patient would pay.
This.
I read a lot of books while pregnant with DD. The rate of inductions & c/s is MUCH higher in the US than any other country. The rate has also increased tremedously in the past 20 years. Everything is more "controlled" these days.
Ahh. Well... personally I think they're paid to be there for the patient, no matter how hard or easy the patient is to deal with.
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ACTUALLY, I think a lot of it might have to do with where you live. Here in Las Vegas, Dr.'s like to schedule births, they don't like when things don't fit in their 'schedule'. Of everyone in my office (which, we have a huge office with a lot of women) every one of tehm have had a scheduled induction. Not one woman in my work has had a natural birth of 'oh hey my water broke, guess it's time to go to the hospital!'. I think THAT was a pretty ridiculous assumption on your part. Just sayin'
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THIS!
EVERY single friend of mine or co-worker etc. has been induced or had a c/s after the induction didn't go quick enough. NOT one of them was past their due date.
Nurses and doctors are paid medical professionals.
They make their livings off of medical procedures and drugs. There is a whole field of medicine dedicated to knocking people out.
I don't know why these types of comments shock people. They became doctors and nurses because they believe in medicine.
That said, I hope they dope me up with everything they legally can.
ETA: I don't think every doctor and nurse thinks this way. I am just saying I can understand those that do, and I see nothing wrong with it.
Not ashamed to admit I am the same way.
Guys, as far as these stories are concerned about doctors "scheduling c-sections and inductions around their schedules"...could it be they just want to make sure they are there for your baby's birth? I mean, wouldn't you rather have the doctor you know be there as opposed to some doctor you've never met? There is a school of thought that having the technology we do makes things more predictable and manageable for everyone involved. We don't have to give birth in mud huts anymore, folks. And as far as I know, C-sections are still reserved for extreme situations. "Not progressing fast enough" can lead to things like Cerebral Palsy and other brain defects that could have otherwise been avoided with proper intervention. I don't know though. I'm not a doctor.
THAT said, there's also an argument for defending the medical profession against a generation of people self-educating on the internet to the point where lay-people thinkg THEY have the phDs and know the best courses of action in their care...there's no trust for doctors and nurses anymore. It's sad. These people go to school for YEARS to become qualified to care for us and most of the time the just get abused by know-it-all patients who aren't going to take their advice anyway.
My personal opinion?
I think patients and doctors should work together to find the best course of treatment for the individual. That includes the possibility that the patient may not get what she wants because her body just might not be built the way that it needs to be to GET what she wants.
Maybe that's one nurse's opinion, but I definitely wouldn't generalize that to all doctor's nurses. For me, personally, my water broke on a Saturday night and I didn't have DS until a Monday night. I had a hard time dialating and needed pitocin to speed things up. They never once pushed an epidural on me (thought I did ask for one) or any other medication. Though it was coming close to having to get a c section after having my water broken for nearly 48 hours, they did everything they possibly could to make sure I had the baby vaginally. I had wonderful nurses also, that always presented me with all the options.
I don't know if its different here in Canada, because doctor's can't charge you more for medications, c-sections, etc (though I'm sure the government pays them more for these services), but I sometimes feel that people make assumptions about doctors/nurses/hospital deliveries and are critical or them as much as some people are about natural births. JMO, but my medicated, hospital birth was a wonderful experience.
You said it so well.
When I go to med school for 10 years or whatever it is for OBGyns I'll start making huge decisions.
You can read whatever you want on the internet, but at the end of the day that doctor has a medical degree and I don't.
Your friend's cousin sounds like a crappy nurse. A lot of people who are selfish in their opinions justify it because "everyone" (or, in her case, people in her profession) thinks the way they do.
My OB discouraged induction unless absolutely necessary (and I went 2 weeks late with DD). The nurses and doctors when DD was born were completely supportive of a med-free birth.
Very well said! I 100% agree!
And I think the point of having your doctor deliver your baby is a good one. I know that I want my Peri to deliver me and she is aware of this. We will do whatever it takes (including an induction or c-section) to make this happen so that I am comfortable.
I also think some women talk a big talk when it comes to wanting a med free birth and don't prepare their body or mind for the natural process nor do they do any research about med free deliveries. Those are the women, in my opinion, that give med free births a bad name.
You know, this, I could see (and I'm sympathetic to the medical folks). More (not all) people who want med-free get hung up on the specifics of their birth experience and expect the Dr.'s/nurses to read through some long plan about every little detail, and I gotta think that's annoying. I doubt if you demonstrate you aren't trying to tell them how to do their job that nurses/doctors care too much about drugs or no.
THAT person probably hates it, but I think you'll actually find a lot that are all for it. My hospital offers water birth, if they were so anti-natural, why the heck would they do that?
Also, all the nurses told me if it's truly what I wanted to to, they would not say one word about medication the entire time, and if I did, they would do what they could to talk me out of it (if that's what I wanted).
All the nurses on that day & my OB's were excited about me going natural & having a water birth. I had about 15 medical personnel in the room b/c they all wanted to watch the water birth. And just about everyone that works on the L&D floor came it at some point while I was there to talk about it with me.
I hate to say it, but I've heard similar things as well... my friend is an L&D nurse at a HIGHLY intervention oriented hospital. It is where she got her training, and quite frankly they just aren't as open to more "natural" birth choices. The hospital is very unwelcoming to doulas, they roll their eyes at women going med-free and they DO schedule inductions very often for middle of the week (so the docs are free for the weekends).
Clearly this is not every hospital (definitely not mine) but I fear it is a little more common than we'd like to think. The good thing is that now I think there is a shift in the other direction, where obstetrics is becoming more open and relaxed about women choosing how much intervention they want.