I think those shopping carts with TVs in them are the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Not only are they a ploy to make you stay in the store longer and spend more money but they are doing your child a disservice. Going to the store can be a learning experience if you make it one, instead of parking them in front of a TV.
lol while i totally agree that it can be a fun, learning experience, that is not the case for all children. alone with sawyer or aidan and 90% of the time both of them - SO MUCH FUN. i freaking love the store. we talk about colors, food, animals, whatever.
that other 10% is a time where i *needed* to go and a fun cart (tv, just a car cart, etc) is a lifesaver. 1 kid under 2 is not the same as 2 under 3. or 3 under 4 LOL
I think those shopping carts with TVs in them are the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Not only are they a ploy to make you stay in the store longer and spend more money but they are doing your child a disservice. Going to the store can be a learning experience if you make it one, instead of parking them in front of a TV.
Wow, supermarkets actually have those? What a terrible idea!
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I think those shopping carts with TVs in them are the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Not only are they a ploy to make you stay in the store longer and spend more money but they are doing your child a disservice. Going to the store can be a learning experience if you make it one, instead of parking them in front of a TV.
lol while i totally agree that it can be a fun, learning experience, that is not the case for all children. alone with sawyer or aidan and 90% of the time both of them - SO MUCH FUN. i freaking love the store. we talk about colors, food, animals, whatever.
that other 10% is a time where i *needed* to go and a fun cart (tv, just a car cart, etc) is a lifesaver. 1 kid under 2 is not the same as 2 under 3. or 3 under 4 LOL
I go to the store all the time with our 3 kids. Trust me. I don't need to be told what it is like from someone with 2 kids. My autistic step son is also a lot easier to deal with if I park him in front of a TV. But that is not helping him, and every minute counts that we work on communication since his mom is a TV parker.
My other UO is you always talking to people saying things that sounds like *just you wait until you have more than one kid* then make other posts saying *it is not a big deal to have a million kids it is easy*. Not everyone parents like you, and has kids like yours.
That 10% of time when you flip that TV on has a habit of turning into 20% than 30% etc.
Also you and I have talked about this before punk about the TV stuff. It is not like I don't turn on the TV for them. The older one is like Aiden and needs TV to wind down at night and relax. But it is even more important for moms like us with those kids to limit the exposure. We know they need it at night so that makes me want to limit it other places like the car and the store, and imo makes it so much more important.
I think those shopping carts with TVs in them are the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Not only are they a ploy to make you stay in the store longer and spend more money but they are doing your child a disservice. Going to the store can be a learning experience if you make it one, instead of parking them in front of a TV.
lol while i totally agree that it can be a fun, learning experience, that is not the case for all children. alone with sawyer or aidan and 90% of the time both of them - SO MUCH FUN. i freaking love the store. we talk about colors, food, animals, whatever.
that other 10% is a time where i *needed* to go and a fun cart (tv, just a car cart, etc) is a lifesaver. 1 kid under 2 is not the same as 2 under 3. or 3 under 4 LOL
I go to the store all the time with our 3 kids. Trust me. I don't need to be told what it is like from someone with 2 kids. My autistic step son is also a lot easier to deal with if I park him in front of a TV. But that is not helping him, and every minute counts that we work on communication since his mom is a TV parker.
My other UO is you always talking to people saying things that sounds like *just you wait until you have more than one kid* then make other posts saying *it is not a big deal to have a million kids it is easy*. Not everyone parents like you, and has kids like yours.
That 10% of time when you flip that TV on has a habit of turning into 20% than 30% etc.
you have school aged older kids, correct?
and i do think that having 2 is easy. i think its weird when people are overwhelmed with it past newborn stages. but i guess thats bc that 10% of the time, i take advantage of the comforts of modern day technology (even though that is not true bc we only recently got carts with tvs, but im referring to fun carts like the car ones).
i have no sympathy for people who want to make things harder on themselves bc "the store could be a learning experience!!" (and i dont know how you switched this conversation to talking about home since i wasn't referring to that).
Also you and I have talked about this before punk about the TV stuff. It is not like I don't turn on the TV for them. The older one is like Aiden and needs TV to wind down at night and relax. But it is even more important for moms like us with those kids to limit the exposure. We know they need it at night so that makes me want to limit it other places like the car and the store, and imo makes it so much more important.
then don't make a general UO when you don't mean it (or when you make points like "all kids are different" in the same thread). if you really believe that, then how can you say they are useless? we dont watch tv a lot during the day bc we aren't home usually. so that would make a cart tv pretty fun.
Haha Punk I totally agree w/ you on some of the 'pro pics' posts lately... I want to slap my forehead in frustration, but I guess everyone has their own tastes or er... appreciation? :P I dunno, I'd be mad if I paid for some of the photos I've seen and if I by some chance took them I'd offer a reshoot before even sharing said photos
My UO: I don't like my grandmother. I don't care if other people have grandparents they've lost and feel the need to tell me I should appreciate that I have one at all - I don't like my grandmother (and thank GOD she lives 4 hours away). And I wish she'd defriend me on facebook because I'm sick of her crazy, ignorant wall posts. And when she calls me "Missy", it makes me sort of want to punch her in the face.
The store is an opportunity for you to interact in a educational way with your kids. Teaching things like the value of money, teaching them how to make healthy choices, teaching them that you can't have everything they want I could go on and on. But they miss out on all of that if they are zonked in front of a TV in a shopping cart.
At home you don't have all those opportunities.
My DD doesn't watch TV at all. She never has, she has no interest in it. So I don't have it on at all during the day and I would never even use one of those carts because she wouldn't look at it.
Honestly, I feel the same way about the TVs at the haircut places too (and I used to cut hair for a living so I am all for a non wiggly kid). I think this stuff makes your kid turn to the TV for comfort when really they need to be learning to sit still and listen to mom and dad. I don't think it is ever to young to start working on that.
Having older kids I know that these kind of things set them up for failure. When you go to the haircut place without a TV or the store without a TV cart they will be upset because the store/place doesn't have it when really they need to learn to just behave at the store without the TV.
If you have a difficult child or a child who calms down for the TV I think it is even more important to reinforce and work on.
The whole school age thing, let me turn the tables on you and pull a punk. You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
My UO is that I get annoyed when some people who have degrees think they are better than those w/out. Right now I'm a receptionist because I needed a job w/ benefits. Before that I worked in publishing for 10 years. Worked my way up to Production Manager. I over saw the production of 4 monthly publications. This is on the business/editorial end of publishing not manufactering. I worked in NY & our plant was in TN. I was & am very proud of that fact. I was laid off because they where doing cutback & starting to cancel publications. Since than the company has gone downhill.
Just because I don't have a degree doesn't mean I'm lazy or stupid. It's just not something I was able finish because I always had to work at least 2 jobs to get by. I am thinking about going back to school though & gaining a degree. I just hate that people are judged by this. I've worked hard my whole life. A degree doesn't mean you are any better than me.
The store is an opportunity for you to interact in a educational way with your kids. Teaching things like the value of money, teaching them how to make healthy choices, teaching them that you can't have everything they want I could go on and on. But they miss out on all of that if they are zonked in front of a TV in a shopping cart.
At home you don't have all those opportunities.
My DD doesn't watch TV at all. She never has, she has no interest in it. So I don't have it on at all during the day and I would never even use one of those carts because she wouldn't look at it.
Honestly, I feel the same way about the TVs at the haircut places too (and I used to cut hair for a living so I am all for a non wiggly kid). I think this stuff makes your kid turn to the TV for comfort when really they need to be learning to sit still and listen to mom and dad. I don't think it is ever to young to start working on that.
Having older kids I know that these kind of things set them up for failure. When you go to the haircut place without a TV or the store without a TV cart they will be upset because the store/place doesn't have it when really they need to learn to just behave at the store without the TV.
If you have a difficult child or a child who calms down for the TV I think it is even more important to reinforce and work on.
The whole school age thing, let me turn the tables on you and pull a punk. You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
hahaha you are condradicting yourself over and over. if all kids are different, then youd realize that for some kids, new situations may need a distraction (not comfort). so just because you tell your kid "um you have to sit down and listen to mom and dad!", that doesn't mean that the situation scares them and that a distraction might be needed for the sake of all parties. there are dozens of chances to teach those things throughout the day. and the things you mentioned at the store (money, healthy choices, etc) are not things a child under 3 can truly comprehend.
i shouldnt feel as if i failed as a parent bc my kid understands "you have to sit still" at church or at the dr's office, but heaven forbid they need a distraction for something new like a haircut.
i dont think anyone said "difficult kid" or "needs to be calmed by the tv". that is a huge exaggeration from me saying "having to run into the store at a bad time bc of necessity".
eta: comfort v distraction in the sense that ie: sawyer does not like tv. she'll stop and dance for a song, but thats it. but if she was crying getting a haircut (obviously hypothetical LOL) turning on the tv would make her go "huh. wait whats that?" long enough for someone to trim her up. not bc she is like ::drool tv::: but bc its a random thing in a random place.
The store is an opportunity for you to interact in a educational way with your kids. Teaching things like the value of money, teaching them how to make healthy choices, teaching them that you can't have everything they want I could go on and on. But they miss out on all of that if they are zonked in front of a TV in a shopping cart.
At home you don't have all those opportunities.
My DD doesn't watch TV at all. She never has, she has no interest in it. So I don't have it on at all during the day and I would never even use one of those carts because she wouldn't look at it.
Honestly, I feel the same way about the TVs at the haircut places too (and I used to cut hair for a living so I am all for a non wiggly kid). I think this stuff makes your kid turn to the TV for comfort when really they need to be learning to sit still and listen to mom and dad. I don't think it is ever to young to start working on that.
Having older kids I know that these kind of things set them up for failure. When you go to the haircut place without a TV or the store without a TV cart they will be upset because the store/place doesn't have it when really they need to learn to just behave at the store without the TV.
If you have a difficult child or a child who calms down for the TV I think it is even more important to reinforce and work on.
The whole school age thing, let me turn the tables on you and pull a punk. You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
I didn't even know that stores had TVs on the carts. I won't lie I think that might be great. However, I wouldn't really like it for DD. I'd prefer to interact with her. I think technology is great but there is a time & place for it. I think that the social structure of modern age is really starting to go downhill because of it. People need to learn how to interact with people again. Not through technology.
The store is an opportunity for you to interact in a educational way with your kids. Teaching things like the value of money, teaching them how to make healthy choices, teaching them that you can't have everything they want I could go on and on. But they miss out on all of that if they are zonked in front of a TV in a shopping cart.
At home you don't have all those opportunities.
My DD doesn't watch TV at all. She never has, she has no interest in it. So I don't have it on at all during the day and I would never even use one of those carts because she wouldn't look at it.
Honestly, I feel the same way about the TVs at the haircut places too (and I used to cut hair for a living so I am all for a non wiggly kid). I think this stuff makes your kid turn to the TV for comfort when really they need to be learning to sit still and listen to mom and dad. I don't think it is ever to young to start working on that.
Having older kids I know that these kind of things set them up for failure. When you go to the haircut place without a TV or the store without a TV cart they will be upset because the store/place doesn't have it when really they need to learn to just behave at the store without the TV.
If you have a difficult child or a child who calms down for the TV I think it is even more important to reinforce and work on.
The whole school age thing, let me turn the tables on you and pull a punk. You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
hahaha you are condradicting yourself over and over. if all kids are different, then youd realize that for some kids, new situations may need a distraction (not comfort). so just because you tell your kid "um you have to sit down and listen to mom and dad!", that doesn't mean that the situation scares them and that a distraction might be needed for the sake of all parties. there are dozens of chances to teach those things throughout the day. and the things you mentioned at the store (money, healthy choices, etc) are not things a child under 3 can truly comprehend.
i shouldnt feel as if i failed as a parent bc my kid understands "you have to sit still" at church or at the dr's office, but heaven forbid they need a distraction for something new like a haircut.
i dont think anyone said "difficult kid" or "needs to be calmed by the tv". that is a huge exaggeration from me saying "having to run into the store at a bad time bc of necessity".
eta: comfort v distraction in the sense that ie: sawyer does not like tv. she'll stop and dance for a song, but thats it. but if she was crying getting a haircut (obviously hypothetical LOL) turning on the tv would make her go "huh. wait whats that?" long enough for someone to trim her up. not bc she is like ::drool tv::: but bc its a random thing in a random place.
We will go the route of your distract theory.I don't turn on the TV to distract while I cook dinner, I have them help me (no matter the age) and a ton more examples. My whole argument is I think that if you keep using the TV to distract your kids you will find more and more situations you need to use it t distract them.
If Sawyer really doesn't watch TV then the TV on at the haircut place wouldn't distract her anyways because she doesn't watch it
you keep talking about home when no one is talking about that.
we are talking about useful random places - the store, the haircutting place, a movie playing in the dr's office (i dont know if places do that, but im sure some do), etc.
and a tv in a random place would make most kids go "hey whats going on there?" for about a min. long enough to snip snip and go. whether they *watch* tv normally or not.
.You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
Amen! Imagine hauling four kids the store! Two under two, and two five year olds. INSANITY.
And I would never let them watch tv in the store...it's lazy parenting, LOL!
lol of course that would be insane do you have twin 5 year olds? that is barely school aged. (and if so - did you sah with all 4 of them before they went to kindy?)
.You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands. ??
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Amen! ?Imagine hauling four kids the store! ?Two under two, and two five year olds. ?INSANITY.
And I would never let them watch tv in the store...it's lazy parenting, LOL!?
One in the cart, one in the ergo, and one walking who can help out grabbing stuff on low shelves. ?That's how I do the store : )?
you keep talking about home when no one is talking about that.
we are talking about useful random places - the store, the haircutting place, a movie playing in the dr's office (i dont know if places do that, but im sure some do), etc.
and a tv in a random place would make most kids go "hey whats going on there?" for about a min. long enough to snip snip and go. whether they *watch* tv normally or not.
But you're missing what I am saying about it all adding up. You use the TV to distract in one day:
-the car
-the store
-the doctor's
-while you cook dinner
-while you take a shower
-while you poop
-for a child to wind down at night
on and on and on. Why would you want to add to that list. You're arguing from your perspective saying "well I don't turn on the TV at home so it is just the haircut distraction". But that is not how everyone does it hence my not everyone parents like you they will take all those routes. So they really don't need one more place to add more TV.
I don't know I am just sick of people criticising the plan and sticking with the status quo.
Ok do you mean criticizing?
Either you don't realize that "criticising" is an alternative spelling or you're being a snark about her european-ness. Either way:
But in this vein, I myself have to point out:
InternetExplorer:
I think ex patriot Americans who have
abdicated the franchise they are entitled to telling people to STFU and
demand solutions to complex problems are LOLtastic and AWific.
I don't care about your reproductive history and I find it annoying to see it in your siggy. ESPECIALLY if you already have a live child.
The only exception is if you are still working to have a first child.
Meh, I think if you don't like it, don't read it. To be honest, I find it annoying when people are annoyed by things like this...
I don't have my history in my sig, but once I start again, I will... MUCH easier than typing it all out over and over when I post a question or share an issue...
I do TOTALLY understand when people have milelong sigs with details like, date and result of 17 cycles... but a dx, an IVF or 2, that makes sense....
A shopping cart with a TV would be fantastic for the end of the shopping trip while we are standing in line, which is right about when my DS is *done* with sitting still in the cart. Until my kid is old enough to understand sitting still, I do whatever works to make some of these experiences easier.
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A shopping cart with a TV would be fantastic for the end of the shopping trip while we are standing in line, which is right about when my DS is *done* with sitting still in the cart. Until my kid is old enough to understand sitting still, I do whatever works to make some of these experiences easier.
um you could be using that time to teach him about money. duh.
and why IS IT that kids are totally happy until the checkout line? lol
A shopping cart with a TV would be fantastic for the end of the shopping trip while we are standing in line, which is right about when my DS is *done* with sitting still in the cart. Until my kid is old enough to understand sitting still, I do whatever works to make some of these experiences easier.
um you could be using that time to teach him about money. duh.
and why IS IT that kids are totally happy until the checkout line? lol
no kidding...i lie to Brock and tell him "SSSHHHH I can hear airplanes coming" I can buy about 3 minutes with that line. He is quite the plane enthusiast.
I go to the store all the time with our 3 kids. Trust me. I don't need to be told what it is like from someone with 2 kids. My autistic step son is also a lot easier to deal with if I park him in front of a TV. But that is not helping him, and every minute counts that we work on communication since his mom is a TV parker.
My other UO is you always talking to people saying things that sounds like *just you wait until you have more than one kid* then make other posts saying *it is not a big deal to have a million kids it is easy*. Not everyone parents like you, and has kids like yours.
That 10% of time when you flip that TV on has a habit of turning into 20% than 30% etc.
I think it's kind of unfair to criticize based on your stepson's medical condition. My kid loves Diego and Wonder Pets. It's not his fault, or my fault, that you have a child whose exposure should be limited because of other factors. That would be like Mom X criticizing Mom Y for letting her kids play video games because X's son is epileptic and could have a seizure. The one has nothing to do with the other.
I'm confused about the photography comments. How do you know they are not amateurs taking the photos themselves?? Maybe even have a really nice camera but just starting out?
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I'm confused about the photography comments. How do you know they are not amateurs taking the photos themselves?? Maybe even have a really nice camera but just starting out?
I'm personally speaking about some that say "DS/DD's PRO PICS AW!" And then ...yeah, and are watermarked w/ a website for more pics to look at etc.
I'm confused about the photography comments. How do you know they are not amateurs taking the photos themselves?? Maybe even have a really nice camera but just starting out?
I'm personally speaking about some that say "DS/DD's PRO PICS AW!" And then ...yeah, and are watermarked w/ a website for more pics to look at etc.
Oh, okay. I got paranoid for a second!
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I'm confused about the photography comments. How do you know they are not amateurs taking the photos themselves?? Maybe even have a really nice camera but just starting out?
I'm personally speaking about some that say "DS/DD's PRO PICS AW!" And then ...yeah, and are watermarked w/ a website for more pics to look at etc.
Oh, okay. I got paranoid for a second!
I love the photos you have in your sig. Pro or not.
A shopping cart with a TV would be fantastic for the end of the shopping trip while we are standing in line, which is right about when my DS is *done* with sitting still in the cart. Until my kid is old enough to understand sitting still, I do whatever works to make some of these experiences easier.
um you could be using that time to teach him about money. duh.
and why IS IT that kids are totally happy until the checkout line? lol
my kids are GREAT in the store until we get to the checkout line...so frustrating b/c it is the only time in the store that i have NO FREE HANDS...a TV @ the checkout is probably the solution, lol!
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No are you kidding? I see so many great siggy pics from folks with decent cameras on here, it's crazy! I mean very specific awing pro's - don't get me wrong, there are lots that are great, just sometimes they pop up and I go "wow really? your kid is still really cute but this photographer should get a serious tsk for delivering this if they charged you."
I hope that makes sense. I'm not trying to sound snotty, just being in this business I don't think it's fair to consumers to deliver 'ok' photos if they're paying!
I'm confused about the photography comments. How do you know they are not amateurs taking the photos themselves?? Maybe even have a really nice camera but just starting out?
I'm personally speaking about some that say "DS/DD's PRO PICS AW!" And then ...yeah, and are watermarked w/ a website for more pics to look at etc.
Oh, okay. I got paranoid for a second!
I love the photos you have in your sig. Pro or not.
Awww, thanks! (((hugs))))
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No are you kidding? I see so many great siggy pics from folks with decent cameras on here, it's crazy! I mean very specific awing pro's - don't get me wrong, there are lots that are great, just sometimes they pop up and I go "wow really? your kid is still really cute but this photographer should get a serious tsk for delivering this if they charged you."
I hope that makes sense. I'm not trying to sound snotty, just being in this business I don't think it's fair to consumers to deliver 'ok' photos if they're paying!
I totally understand what you're saying. It's just funny because when I read that I got paranoid and thought "I hope people don't think I got robbed on pro pics". I especially wouldn't dress DS in the shirt he has on for pro pics! My thinking just got totally off track.
But I get what you're saying :-)
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I think that if you owe money to loved ones, you don't deserve to have nice things, even if they are things you won and didn't pay for. You should immediately offer those to the loved ones you borrowed money from as an offer of payment on the loan. ESPECIALLY if they are something the loved one really wants or are worth $$ that they could easily sell on craigslist.
I'm sorry if you're talking about a specific person who may or may not be reading this (I have a feeling that it is definitely about someone specific), but I don't get it.
If they could have sold something on craigslist for the money in the first place, then why would they need to borrow money? Or if you wanted something they had, then why wouldn't you just offer to buy it? Or why would you lend someone money if you don't think they would pay it back right away?
I go to the store all the time with our 3 kids. Trust me. I don't need to be told what it is like from someone with 2 kids. My autistic step son is also a lot easier to deal with if I park him in front of a TV. But that is not helping him, and every minute counts that we work on communication since his mom is a TV parker.
My other UO is you always talking to people saying things that sounds like *just you wait until you have more than one kid* then make other posts saying *it is not a big deal to have a million kids it is easy*. Not everyone parents like you, and has kids like yours.
That 10% of time when you flip that TV on has a habit of turning into 20% than 30% etc.
I think it's kind of unfair to criticize based on your stepson's medical condition. My kid loves Diego and Wonder Pets. It's not his fault, or my fault, that you have a child whose exposure should be limited because of other factors. That would be like Mom X criticizing Mom Y for letting her kids play video games because X's son is epileptic and could have a seizure. The one has nothing to do with the other.
It's not even his situation. I just think kids need limits on TV overall no matter what their condition. Everything in moderation. There are moms who park their kids in front of the TV all day because it makes life easier. My whole argument was when you use it everywhere you are it adds up.
It's ok for people to think I am being uptight about it. I let them watch TV I just don't let them watch TV all day long everywhere we go.
Well, while we're on the topic, our tv is on almost all day. My DD watches bits and pieces most of the day. Although she makes a liar out of me to anyone I've discussed it with, my child is a nightmare in public. I don't know what else I can do to change it. She's such a HAPPY kid, but you put her in the car seat, stroller, or shopping cart, and she turns into "that kid".
What I'm trying to say is, please make sure they get some of those tv carts to us soon Because I'll use it a lot.
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lol while i totally agree that it can be a fun, learning experience, that is not the case for all children. alone with sawyer or aidan and 90% of the time both of them - SO MUCH FUN. i freaking love the store. we talk about colors, food, animals, whatever.
that other 10% is a time where i *needed* to go and a fun cart (tv, just a car cart, etc) is a lifesaver. 1 kid under 2 is not the same as 2 under 3. or 3 under 4 LOL
Wow, supermarkets actually have those? What a terrible idea!
Aah, common ground. I feel better now.
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I go to the store all the time with our 3 kids. Trust me. I don't need to be told what it is like from someone with 2 kids. My autistic step son is also a lot easier to deal with if I park him in front of a TV. But that is not helping him, and every minute counts that we work on communication since his mom is a TV parker.
My other UO is you always talking to people saying things that sounds like *just you wait until you have more than one kid* then make other posts saying *it is not a big deal to have a million kids it is easy*. Not everyone parents like you, and has kids like yours.
That 10% of time when you flip that TV on has a habit of turning into 20% than 30% etc.
you have school aged older kids, correct?
and i do think that having 2 is easy. i think its weird when people are overwhelmed with it past newborn stages. but i guess thats bc that 10% of the time, i take advantage of the comforts of modern day technology (even though that is not true bc we only recently got carts with tvs, but im referring to fun carts like the car ones).
i have no sympathy for people who want to make things harder on themselves bc "the store could be a learning experience!!" (and i dont know how you switched this conversation to talking about home since i wasn't referring to that).
then don't make a general UO when you don't mean it (or when you make points like "all kids are different" in the same thread). if you really believe that, then how can you say they are useless? we dont watch tv a lot during the day bc we aren't home usually. so that would make a cart tv pretty fun.
Haha Punk I totally agree w/ you on some of the 'pro pics' posts lately... I want to slap my forehead in frustration, but I guess everyone has their own tastes or er... appreciation? :P I dunno, I'd be mad if I paid for some of the photos I've seen and if I by some chance took them I'd offer a reshoot before even sharing said photos
My UO: I don't like my grandmother. I don't care if other people have grandparents they've lost and feel the need to tell me I should appreciate that I have one at all - I don't like my grandmother (and thank GOD she lives 4 hours away). And I wish she'd defriend me on facebook because I'm sick of her crazy, ignorant wall posts. And when she calls me "Missy", it makes me sort of want to punch her in the face.
THERE, I SAID IT.
/end grumpy UO.
Maybe I didn't convey it correctly.
The store is an opportunity for you to interact in a educational way with your kids. Teaching things like the value of money, teaching them how to make healthy choices, teaching them that you can't have everything they want I could go on and on. But they miss out on all of that if they are zonked in front of a TV in a shopping cart.
At home you don't have all those opportunities.
My DD doesn't watch TV at all. She never has, she has no interest in it. So I don't have it on at all during the day and I would never even use one of those carts because she wouldn't look at it.
Honestly, I feel the same way about the TVs at the haircut places too (and I used to cut hair for a living so I am all for a non wiggly kid). I think this stuff makes your kid turn to the TV for comfort when really they need to be learning to sit still and listen to mom and dad. I don't think it is ever to young to start working on that.
Having older kids I know that these kind of things set them up for failure. When you go to the haircut place without a TV or the store without a TV cart they will be upset because the store/place doesn't have it when really they need to learn to just behave at the store without the TV.
If you have a difficult child or a child who calms down for the TV I think it is even more important to reinforce and work on.
The whole school age thing, let me turn the tables on you and pull a punk. You just wait and see what it is like punk to go to the store with 3 kids regardless of their age. It is different when you have more kids than hands.
My UO is that I get annoyed when some people who have degrees think they are better than those w/out. Right now I'm a receptionist because I needed a job w/ benefits. Before that I worked in publishing for 10 years. Worked my way up to Production Manager. I over saw the production of 4 monthly publications. This is on the business/editorial end of publishing not manufactering. I worked in NY & our plant was in TN. I was & am very proud of that fact. I was laid off because they where doing cutback & starting to cancel publications. Since than the company has gone downhill.
Just because I don't have a degree doesn't mean I'm lazy or stupid. It's just not something I was able finish because I always had to work at least 2 jobs to get by. I am thinking about going back to school though & gaining a degree. I just hate that people are judged by this. I've worked hard my whole life. A degree doesn't mean you are any better than me.
Sorry, that turned into a rant.
hahaha you are condradicting yourself over and over. if all kids are different, then youd realize that for some kids, new situations may need a distraction (not comfort). so just because you tell your kid "um you have to sit down and listen to mom and dad!", that doesn't mean that the situation scares them and that a distraction might be needed for the sake of all parties. there are dozens of chances to teach those things throughout the day. and the things you mentioned at the store (money, healthy choices, etc) are not things a child under 3 can truly comprehend.
i shouldnt feel as if i failed as a parent bc my kid understands "you have to sit still" at church or at the dr's office, but heaven forbid they need a distraction for something new like a haircut.
i dont think anyone said "difficult kid" or "needs to be calmed by the tv". that is a huge exaggeration from me saying "having to run into the store at a bad time bc of necessity".
eta: comfort v distraction in the sense that ie: sawyer does not like tv. she'll stop and dance for a song, but thats it. but if she was crying getting a haircut (obviously hypothetical LOL) turning on the tv would make her go "huh. wait whats that?" long enough for someone to trim her up. not bc she is like ::drool tv::: but bc its a random thing in a random place.
I didn't even know that stores had TVs on the carts. I won't lie I think that might be great. However, I wouldn't really like it for DD. I'd prefer to interact with her. I think technology is great but there is a time & place for it. I think that the social structure of modern age is really starting to go downhill because of it. People need to learn how to interact with people again. Not through technology.
We will go the route of your distract theory.I don't turn on the TV to distract while I cook dinner, I have them help me (no matter the age) and a ton more examples. My whole argument is I think that if you keep using the TV to distract your kids you will find more and more situations you need to use it t distract them.
If Sawyer really doesn't watch TV then the TV on at the haircut place wouldn't distract her anyways because she doesn't watch it
you keep talking about home when no one is talking about that.
we are talking about useful random places - the store, the haircutting place, a movie playing in the dr's office (i dont know if places do that, but im sure some do), etc.
and a tv in a random place would make most kids go "hey whats going on there?" for about a min. long enough to snip snip and go. whether they *watch* tv normally or not.
lol of course that would be insane
do you have twin 5 year olds? that is barely school aged. (and if so - did you sah with all 4 of them before they went to kindy?)
One in the cart, one in the ergo, and one walking who can help out grabbing stuff on low shelves. ?That's how I do the store : )?
But you're missing what I am saying about it all adding up. You use the TV to distract in one day:
-the car
-the store
-the doctor's
-while you cook dinner
-while you take a shower
-while you poop
-for a child to wind down at night
on and on and on. Why would you want to add to that list. You're arguing from your perspective saying "well I don't turn on the TV at home so it is just the haircut distraction". But that is not how everyone does it hence my not everyone parents like you they will take all those routes. So they really don't need one more place to add more TV.
Either you don't realize that "criticising" is an alternative spelling or you're being a snark about her european-ness. Either way:
But in this vein, I myself have to point out:
OK, do you mean "expatriate"? lol.
Meh, I think if you don't like it, don't read it. To be honest, I find it annoying when people are annoyed by things like this...
I don't have my history in my sig, but once I start again, I will... MUCH easier than typing it all out over and over when I post a question or share an issue...
I do TOTALLY understand when people have milelong sigs with details like, date and result of 17 cycles... but a dx, an IVF or 2, that makes sense....
DD #1 passed away in January 2011 at 14 days old due to congenital heart disease
DD#2 lost in January 2012 at 23 weeks due to anhydramnios caused by a placental abruption
um you could be using that time to teach him about money. duh.
and why IS IT that kids are totally happy until the checkout line? lol
no kidding...i lie to Brock and tell him "SSSHHHH I can hear airplanes coming" I can buy about 3 minutes with that line. He is quite the plane enthusiast.
Kids + TV = Good. I make an amazing babysitter.
I think it's kind of unfair to criticize based on your stepson's medical condition. My kid loves Diego and Wonder Pets. It's not his fault, or my fault, that you have a child whose exposure should be limited because of other factors. That would be like Mom X criticizing Mom Y for letting her kids play video games because X's son is epileptic and could have a seizure. The one has nothing to do with the other.
I'm personally speaking about some that say "DS/DD's PRO PICS AW!" And then ...yeah, and are watermarked w/ a website for more pics to look at etc.
Oh, okay. I got paranoid for a second!
I love the photos you have in your sig. Pro or not.
my kids are GREAT in the store until we get to the checkout line...so frustrating b/c it is the only time in the store that i have NO FREE HANDS...a TV @ the checkout is probably the solution, lol!
No are you kidding? I see so many great siggy pics from folks with decent cameras on here, it's crazy!
I mean very specific awing pro's - don't get me wrong, there are lots that are great, just sometimes they pop up and I go "wow really? your kid is still really cute but this photographer should get a serious tsk for delivering this if they charged you."
I hope that makes sense. I'm not trying to sound snotty, just being in this business I don't think it's fair to consumers to deliver 'ok' photos if they're paying!
Awww, thanks! (((hugs))))
I totally understand what you're saying. It's just funny because when I read that I got paranoid and thought "I hope people don't think I got robbed on pro pics". I especially wouldn't dress DS in the shirt he has on for pro pics! My thinking just got totally off track.
But I get what you're saying :-)
I'm sorry if you're talking about a specific person who may or may not be reading this (I have a feeling that it is definitely about someone specific), but I don't get it.
If they could have sold something on craigslist for the money in the first place, then why would they need to borrow money? Or if you wanted something they had, then why wouldn't you just offer to buy it? Or why would you lend someone money if you don't think they would pay it back right away?
It's not even his situation. I just think kids need limits on TV overall no matter what their condition. Everything in moderation. There are moms who park their kids in front of the TV all day because it makes life easier. My whole argument was when you use it everywhere you are it adds up.
It's ok for people to think I am being uptight about it. I let them watch TV I just don't let them watch TV all day long everywhere we go.
Well, while we're on the topic, our tv is on almost all day. My DD watches bits and pieces most of the day. Although she makes a liar out of me to anyone I've discussed it with, my child is a nightmare in public. I don't know what else I can do to change it. She's such a HAPPY kid, but you put her in the car seat, stroller, or shopping cart, and she turns into "that kid".
What I'm trying to say is, please make sure they get some of those tv carts to us soon
Because I'll use it a lot.
Breleigh & Mason