First of all "panda girl" I don't recall her screen name was just trying to prevent GP from adding siggies if they are not "part of the IF board" I understand that. However, I really don't think she approached it in a way that everyone understood what she was trying to do.
Second, name calling really?
Third, I Lurve the ae OMGpenguins!
She should have asked before trying to scold us.
Um sorry Mom, I didn't know I should ask before posting on a public message board.
::head desk::
::Double head desk:: not asking to post, asking if she was an IFer, too.
The post was on the GP board. Not the IF board. It certainly looked to me like GP wanted in on ya'lls penguins.
Well you should know that people cross post on more than one board
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I didn't read the whole thing, but Snarky has pandas, IF has penguins, so shouldn't GP have their own board mascot?
Yes, they should. If they want one. In this case, it was IFers who were on GP at the moment that were grabbing penguins. The GPers pretty much stayed out of it til the panda invasion.
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I didn't read the whole thing, but Snarky has pandas, IF has penguins, so shouldn't GP have their own board mascot?
Some of the ladies who started on GP, have recently moved over to IF. They were the ones with penguins in there siggy. I think that's where it started to go downhill, when JenniferL said those girls were copying.
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It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
Because the GPer was the one to ask the question. if she didn't know where they came from, she wouldn't have known to go on the IF board and ask the question.
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It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
Because the GPer was the one to ask the question. if she didn't know where they came from, she wouldn't have known to go on the IF board and ask the question.
No I get that thanks.
I'm saying the ensuing conversation about getting a friggin' penguin. Why didn't it happen over here then? The GPers question got answered. What you're telling me is that IF ran over there to get in on the penguins then? I'm asking why didn't that ensuing conversation happen here.
It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
Because the GPer was the one to ask the question. if she didn't know where they came from, she wouldn't have known to go on the IF board and ask the question.
No I get that thanks.
I'm saying the ensuing conversation about getting a friggin' penguin. Why didn't it happen over here then? The GPers question got answered. What you're telling me is that IF ran over there to get in on the penguins then? I'm asking why didn't that ensuing conversation happen here.
No one ran over anywhere. The IFers you saw at the beginning of the post, also post on GP. Actually I post more on GP than I do IF. So instead of stating "Hey [insert sn] you have a PM or another post on IF to discuss the penguin thing. Why not just post in the post? We knew each other were IFers.
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I see. I am trying hard to keep track of the influx of GPers on IF now over the past month or two.
Isn't that a natural progression?
I think so. I just have never seen so many come to IF at once, that's all. Maybe it's because it was the end of the year/beginning of a new year and that is when people started TTC, and their year is now up. It seems like there are several new intros a day now!
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It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
Because the GPer was the one to ask the question. if she didn't know where they came from, she wouldn't have known to go on the IF board and ask the question.
No I get that thanks.
I'm saying the ensuing conversation about getting a friggin' penguin. Why didn't it happen over here then? The GPers question got answered. What you're telling me is that IF ran over there to get in on the penguins then? I'm asking why didn't that ensuing conversation happen here.
The first few girls who responded about getting the penguins in their siggy are the girls who have moved over here. The next post was yours where you "put the facts" out there about penguins. Honestly, it was a bit of negative post. You basically crapped on people for choosing the penguin as a mascot, lucky charm, whatever. Because it wasn't exactly accurate to what we interpreted it meaning to be.
That is where the shitstorm started.
I think most people who responded after that were defending either the choice to have a the penguin or on the copying part.
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Now if you GPers just take the penguins, that's just blatant copying. But if that's what you want, go right ahead. I have no dog in this fight other than a bunch of useless knowledge about animals (since I work in finance, not a zoo).
What I'm not understanding also is that how that was an attack on IFers, when I clearly said "You GPers".
Me thinks people just got defensive and started attacking me.
Honestly all animals are just that animals. I also put a different spin on what JenniferL said. When it came to penguins "stealing" abandoned babies..I see other roads in the IF travels (adoption etc). There is a different spin on the negatives that she pointed out!
The fact that we picked a unifying animal is no different then her board choosing the pandas..I have been to zoo's where pandas weren't so cuddley..(I have seen them throwing feces etc)..but they are animals and it means something to her board. That is all that matters.
What I am trying to say is they are mascots and animals..not our identity. It is a unifying badge for the ones going through terrible life events and painful experiences together.
I am happy they have the pandas and we have penguins and biitches bathing in bitter which I would love to have the code for b/c Iwant that in my siggy
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Now if you GPers just take the penguins, that's just blatant copying. But if that's what you want, go right ahead. I have no dog in this fight other than a bunch of useless knowledge about animals (since I work in finance, not a zoo).
What I'm not understanding also is that how that was an attack on IFers, when I clearly said "You GPers".
Me thinks people just got defensive and started attacking me.
Me thinks you're just a drama queen keeping stuff going. Have you even been on the panda board today? Both of these posts are over, if you haven't noticed.
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Now if you GPers just take the penguins, that's just blatant copying. But if that's what you want, go right ahead. I have no dog in this fight other than a bunch of useless knowledge about animals (since I work in finance, not a zoo).
What I'm not understanding also is that how that was an attack on IFers, when I clearly said "You GPers".
Me thinks people just got defensive and started attacking me.
You say that now, but at the time you thought we were all GPers.
I don't think you should have been attacked the way you were, but I don't think you should have posted the way you did. It's done with now. Nothing can be changed.
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Now if you GPers just take the penguins, that's just blatant copying. But if that's what you want, go right ahead. I have no dog in this fight other than a bunch of useless knowledge about animals (since I work in finance, not a zoo).
What I'm not understanding also is that how that was an attack on IFers, when I clearly said "You GPers".
Me thinks people just got defensive and started attacking me.
Damn I got sucked in. I don't know about other girls but my problem with your post wasn't the comment about GPers copying Penguins it was your little factoids about Penguins and how they aren't a great mascot. I would be happy to quote what you said if need be. Especially when someone then quoted a wikki page listing some of the not so great parenting skills panda's have and you responded with this:
"It actually had nothing to do with the baby pandas at all, it was purely from their difficulties getting pregnant. I wasn't even looking ahead to the resulting baby panda. Baby steps is what I was working with. If I couldn't even get pregnant, why would I start worrying about the baby?"
Um half the stuff you said about penguins were about what bad parents they were to their baby chicks. Hypocritical much? None of us can get PG either so why would we worry about the baby penguin chick?
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Now if you GPers just take the penguins, that's just blatant copying. But if that's what you want, go right ahead. I have no dog in this fight other than a bunch of useless knowledge about animals (since I work in finance, not a zoo).
What I'm not understanding also is that how that was an attack on IFers, when I clearly said "You GPers".
Me thinks people just got defensive and started attacking me.
Damn I got sucked in. I don't know about other girls but my problem with your post wasn't the comment about GPers copying Penguins it was your little factoids about Penguins and how they aren't a great mascot. I would be happy to quote what you said if need be. Especially when someone then quoted a wikki page listing some of the not so great parenting skills panda's have and you responded with this:
"It actually had nothing to do with the baby pandas at all, it was purely from their difficulties getting pregnant. I wasn't even looking ahead to the resulting baby panda. Baby steps is what I was working with. If I couldn't even get pregnant, why would I start worrying about the baby?"
Um half the stuff you said about penguins were about what bad parents they were to their baby chicks. Hypocritical much? None of us can get PG either so why would we worry about the baby penguin chick?
No you all argue about the baby chick as the reason you picked penguins....at least in all the posts I see and when its asked....you refer to March of the Penguins. Someone over here has previously told me that penguins are awesome because the male has such a factor in child rearing.
I'm saying yeah, I hadn't gotten there to even consider that yet.
And PS - I didn't pick the panda as our mascot, the panda just happened. We didn't have some debate or even post about it in a thread. It could have been a rattlesnake....but it worked.
I just read through some of those posts - there's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
but LOL @ whoever started the S/N "OMG Penguin"
Exactly what I was thinking, but you need to go over and catch up on it now. The end is brilliant.
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Re: Somebody on GP asked why the penguins....
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Well you should know that people cross post on more than one board
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Yes, they should. If they want one. In this case, it was IFers who were on GP at the moment that were grabbing penguins. The GPers pretty much stayed out of it til the panda invasion.
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Some of the ladies who started on GP, have recently moved over to IF. They were the ones with penguins in there siggy. I think that's where it started to go downhill, when JenniferL said those girls were copying.
As do you apparently. You seem to only pipe in to bash me. What's your beef? When did I ruffle your feathers ma'am?
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It appeared to me like people started grabbing penguins.....which if it was an IF thing, why didn't the conversation about getting a penguin in your sig happen on the IF board?
I don't think Snarky would have done that with pandas....so I think me and others got pretty darn confused.
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My TTC/PG blog / Panda Phenomenon Explained
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
Glad I'm not the only one who can't figure out who "belongs" where.
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Because the GPer was the one to ask the question. if she didn't know where they came from, she wouldn't have known to go on the IF board and ask the question.
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No I get that thanks.
I'm saying the ensuing conversation about getting a friggin' penguin. Why didn't it happen over here then? The GPers question got answered. What you're telling me is that IF ran over there to get in on the penguins then? I'm asking why didn't that ensuing conversation happen here.
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Simmer down, don't wet yourself.
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Isn't that a natural progression?
No one ran over anywhere. The IFers you saw at the beginning of the post, also post on GP. Actually I post more on GP than I do IF. So instead of stating "Hey [insert sn] you have a PM or another post on IF to discuss the penguin thing. Why not just post in the post? We knew each other were IFers.
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(Former username: xxbblueangelxx)
I think so. I just have never seen so many come to IF at once, that's all. Maybe it's because it was the end of the year/beginning of a new year and that is when people started TTC, and their year is now up. It seems like there are several new intros a day now!
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
The first few girls who responded about getting the penguins in their siggy are the girls who have moved over here. The next post was yours where you "put the facts" out there about penguins. Honestly, it was a bit of negative post. You basically crapped on people for choosing the penguin as a mascot, lucky charm, whatever. Because it wasn't exactly accurate to what we interpreted it meaning to be.
That is where the shitstorm started.
I think most people who responded after that were defending either the choice to have a the penguin or on the copying part.
My OP said this:
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Honestly all animals are just that animals. I also put a different spin on what JenniferL said. When it came to penguins "stealing" abandoned babies..I see other roads in the IF travels (adoption etc). There is a different spin on the negatives that she pointed out!
The fact that we picked a unifying animal is no different then her board choosing the pandas..I have been to zoo's where pandas weren't so cuddley..(I have seen them throwing feces etc)..but they are animals and it means something to her board. That is all that matters.
What I am trying to say is they are mascots and animals..not our identity. It is a unifying badge for the ones going through terrible life events and painful experiences together.
I am happy they have the pandas and we have penguins and biitches bathing in bitter which I would love to have the code for b/c Iwant that in my siggy
Me thinks you're just a drama queen keeping stuff going. Have you even been on the panda board today? Both of these posts are over, if you haven't noticed.
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Provera to end Cycles 1-9 (anovulatory)
Cycle #4 & 5: Clomid 50 mg FAIL
RE Visit: 2000 mg Metformin
Cycle 6:Forced Break, looking for androgen secreting tumor
Cycle 7:Clomid CD 3-10, 12-17 FAIL
Cycle 8: Clomid CD 3-10, Bravelle CD 12-24 Hyperstimmed
New RE: Put on Byetta, lost 23 lbs
Cycle 9: Financial Break
Cycle 10: Femara CD 3-7, IUI CD 17 BFP on 2/14/11, m/c 3/7/11
You say that now, but at the time you thought we were all GPers.
I don't think you should have been attacked the way you were, but I don't think you should have posted the way you did. It's done with now. Nothing can be changed.
My Chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28017b
TTC #1- 3 failed rounds of Clomid/ Surprise Natural BFP w/weight loss- 9/22/11 DD 5/12
DX. Dec '09 w/ Inappropriate LH Secretion Syndrom/PCOS/ Anov 28 months
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Damn I got sucked in. I don't know about other girls but my problem with your post wasn't the comment about GPers copying Penguins it was your little factoids about Penguins and how they aren't a great mascot. I would be happy to quote what you said if need be. Especially when someone then quoted a wikki page listing some of the not so great parenting skills panda's have and you responded with this:
"It actually had nothing to do with the baby pandas at all, it was purely from their difficulties getting pregnant. I wasn't even looking ahead to the resulting baby panda. Baby steps is what I was working with. If I couldn't even get pregnant, why would I start worrying about the baby?"
Um half the stuff you said about penguins were about what bad parents they were to their baby chicks. Hypocritical much? None of us can get PG either so why would we worry about the baby penguin chick?
No you all argue about the baby chick as the reason you picked penguins....at least in all the posts I see and when its asked....you refer to March of the Penguins. Someone over here has previously told me that penguins are awesome because the male has such a factor in child rearing.
I'm saying yeah, I hadn't gotten there to even consider that yet.
And PS - I didn't pick the panda as our mascot, the panda just happened. We didn't have some debate or even post about it in a thread. It could have been a rattlesnake....but it worked.
Dx with endo & blocked left tube - TTC #1 for 29 cycles before miracle BFP, #2 - Surprise!!
My TTC/PG blog / Panda Phenomenon Explained
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
Exactly what I was thinking, but you need to go over and catch up on it now. The end is brilliant.
Started TTC 05.08
Me: Stage II endo, borderline high FSH
DH: perfect
1 lap, 5 IUIs = 4 BFNs and 1 c/p
2 IVFs, 2 FETs = 1 BFN, 1 c/p, 1 ectopic and finally a sticky BFP in May 2011!
1 FET in Aug 2013 = BFP!
Hah! This just makes me happy. And yes, I am quite impressed.
6 IUIs,IVF #1 w/ICSI = BFP!
Betas, 332 & 856 = twins!
Our baby girl is here!