Agree. Totally. And peanut free schools are definitely giving kids a false sense of security if there are still teachers bringing peanuts in anyway.
But...and this is my last thing on this...
The world isn't peanut-free. Don't peanut-free schools give them, in general, a false sense of security, and a lack of real understanding of what they have to do to keep themselves safe from a condition that will be with them for life?
And this post isn't Nut-Free either! Goodnight ladies...
You all need to get a grip here. Yes, I got annoyed when our school did the peanut free thing. We had signs that said this school is peanut free. Then about a month later we were told to take them down at a faculty meeting because they promised something we could not control. We had to replace them with a sign that said something along the lines of please don't bring peanuts to school.
Guess what, I still ate my granny smith apples with pb during school in the faculty room during my pregnancy. In my opinion, anyone with an allergy should be prepared for a reaction to the allergen. I think we need to educate children about what they are allergic too and teach them what to do if they believe they are having a reaction. Promising that a school is peanut free is a difficult one and it won't happen 100%. I think it's awful for a child to go through a life threatening event/reaction. Attempting to prevent is what should happen. However teaching the child who will become an adult ways to live/protect themselves is imperative. I think peanut free schools give a false sense of security.
My child can't administer her own epi pen during the throat closing process. But I would just adore finding out that you were eating peanuts after specifically being asked not to so that you didn't kill my kid.
Oooh that lawsuit would get her right through 3 PhD's and Med school.
That's what trained caregivers, teachers, and nurses are there for as far as administering an epi pen.
Sue happy? Who are you going to sue when your child has a reaction at WalMart or some other store or restaurant because she came in contact with nuts? I was not asked to not eat peanuts...signs were posted that the school was peanut free and then taken down as there was and can't be a 100% guarantee that a school would be peanut free.
As a mother with a child who has an allergy...start thinking about how you are setting your child up with a false sense of security that they will be protected against an allergic reaction in school. Think of all the places and people your child will come in contact with. How are you going to 100% prevent a reaction everywhere you go? Place the responsiblity on YOU and your child once they are able to have that responsibility.
You all need to get a grip here. Yes, I got annoyed when our school did the peanut free thing. We had signs that said this school is peanut free. Then about a month later we were told to take them down at a faculty meeting because they promised something we could not control. We had to replace them with a sign that said something along the lines of please don't bring peanuts to school.
Guess what, I still ate my granny smith apples with pb during school in the faculty room during my pregnancy. In my opinion, anyone with an allergy should be prepared for a reaction to the allergen. I think we need to educate children about what they are allergic too and teach them what to do if they believe they are having a reaction. Promising that a school is peanut free is a difficult one and it won't happen 100%. I think it's awful for a child to go through a life threatening event/reaction. Attempting to prevent is what should happen. However teaching the child who will become an adult ways to live/protect themselves is imperative. I think peanut free schools give a false sense of security.
I agree with you. Except that daycare and preschool kids are still TOO YOUNG to know what they can and cannot eat. Don't you see that?
Yes, daycare and preschool students are EXTREMELY too young to know better or say protect themselves 100% from a possible allergic reaction. I had students with severy allergies to bee stings...I couldn't keep the bees away, but you know those kids had a pack with an epi pen on them and one that I carried in the emergency bag too. At the age of 3, they knew that if they were stung they had to tell a buddy/teacher immediately. A three year old can begin to have an awareness and learn how to protect themselves from allergens, strangers, fire, etc. However, they are not yet ready to execute this perfectly as they are developing and learning.
For some children, peanuts on your breath will do it. A friend of mine couldn't be in the same room as peanut butter.
How is my child supposed to miraculously know that her teacher disobeyed the rules of the school and faculty, decided to be an ignorant idiot, and breathe on her after downing peanut butter?
BEES? Yes. Peanut butter breath on a selfish teacher? Sorry, my kid won't be psychic by 1st grade.
I've heard very little this selfish on here. Is it worth it to you? Better be. Because OH man that lawsuit would be delish.
The difference is the caregivers. I'm with jo with her epi pen and hyper aware of what we come in contact with at walmart. WIll I be able to prevent it?
No. But "peanut free" schools at least put penalties in place for people such as yourself who, as a teacher, id love to see out on her ass.
You're a sad role model. The school is trying to make a safe environment. I hardly expect it to be entirely nut free from a child perspective but from teachers? i'm shocked at you. really.
You all need to get a grip here. Yes, I got annoyed when our school did the peanut free thing. We had signs that said this school is peanut free. Then about a month later we were told to take them down at a faculty meeting because they promised something we could not control. We had to replace them with a sign that said something along the lines of please don't bring peanuts to school.
Guess what, I still ate my granny smith apples with pb during school in the faculty room during my pregnancy. In my opinion, anyone with an allergy should be prepared for a reaction to the allergen. I think we need to educate children about what they are allergic too and teach them what to do if they believe they are having a reaction. Promising that a school is peanut free is a difficult one and it won't happen 100%. I think it's awful for a child to go through a life threatening event/reaction. Attempting to prevent is what should happen. However teaching the child who will become an adult ways to live/protect themselves is imperative. I think peanut free schools give a false sense of security.
My child can't administer her own epi pen during the throat closing process. But I would just adore finding out that you were eating peanuts after specifically being asked not to so that you didn't kill my kid.
Oooh that lawsuit would get her right through 3 PhD's and Med school.
Exactly! I thought that was mighty irresponsible of her.
I was responsible for my self and my child. I was following my gestational diabetes diet which required protein at lunch. I was responsible by eating in the faculty room away from the child who had an allergy. I was responsible by washing my hands.
Agree. Totally. And peanut free schools are definitely giving kids a false sense of security if there are still teachers bringing peanuts in anyway.
But...and this is my last thing on this...
The world isn't peanut-free. Don't peanut-free schools give them, in general, a false sense of security, and a lack of real understanding of what they have to do to keep themselves safe from a condition that will be with them for life?
And this post isn't Nut-Free either! Goodnight ladies...
You are not nut free either if you think you can post on a public board and get your feathers all ruffled over opinions that don't agree with yours.
Oh please with the false sense of security nonsense. I'm not dumb and neither is my kid. She'll know she has to be careful and how to administer her meds.
But I do expect respect from her teachers, and what your'e doing is pretty disrespectful and selfish.
Agree. Totally. And peanut free schools are definitely giving kids a false sense of security if there are still teachers bringing peanuts in anyway.
But...and this is my last thing on this...
The world isn't peanut-free. Don't peanut-free schools give them, in general, a false sense of security, and a lack of real understanding of what they have to do to keep themselves safe from a condition that will be with them for life?
And this post isn't Nut-Free either! Goodnight ladies...
You are not nut free either if you think you can post on a public board and get your feathers all ruffled over opinions that don't agree with yours.
It's not really your opinion, but your actions which are truly shocking.
Disagree all you like, but breathe on my kid and cause a reaction.Pretty please.
Oh please with the false sense of security nonsense. I'm not dumb and neither is my kid. She'll know she has to be careful and how to administer her meds.
But I do expect respect from her teachers, and what your'e doing is pretty disrespectful and selfish.
This is NOT about respect. This is about YOUR responsibilities as a parent with a child who has a peanut allergy. Name a public place that is peanut free where you will have a 100% guarantee that your child will not be exposed. It's just not going to happen.
I think you might need counseling on how to deal with your daughter's allergies and the othe issues you have as far as thinking that you can lay down the law about peanuts. Hilarious, dear!
Vaelntine you do realize the peanut residue could have/probably was on your clothing, right!?!
Oh my...peanut residue...how horrid! People in public places who eat peanut butter will have peanut residue on thier clothing, peanut breath, peanut residue on their hands...oh my...what do you do? You attempt to sanitize and prevent a reaction. You carry an epi pen with you for your child. You do what YOU can to PREVENT a reaction. You can't change the world or rid everyone of peanut residue.
Oh please with the false sense of security nonsense. I'm not dumb and neither is my kid. She'll know she has to be careful and how to administer her meds.
But I do expect respect from her teachers, and what your'e doing is pretty disrespectful and selfish.
This is NOT about respect. This is about YOUR responsibilities as a parent with a child who has a peanut allergy. Name a public place that is peanut free where you will have a 100% guarantee that your child will not be exposed. It's just not going to happen.
I think you might need counseling on how to deal with your daughter's allergies and the othe issues you have as far as thinking that you can lay down the law about peanuts. Hilarious, dear!
Agree. Totally. And peanut free schools are definitely giving kids a false sense of security if there are still teachers bringing peanuts in anyway.
But...and this is my last thing on this...
The world isn't peanut-free. Don't peanut-free schools give them, in general, a false sense of security, and a lack of real understanding of what they have to do to keep themselves safe from a condition that will be with them for life?
And this post isn't Nut-Free either! Goodnight ladies...
You are not nut free either if you think you can post on a public board and get your feathers all ruffled over opinions that don't agree with yours.
It's not really your opinion, but your actions which are truly shocking. Disagree all you like, but breathe on my kid and cause a reaction.Pretty please.
Now...now...lanie. You are intentionally asking for your child to be harmed? What an irresponsible parent!
Vaelntine you do realize the peanut residue could have/probably was on your clothing, right!?!
Oh my...peanut residue...how horrid! People in public places who eat peanut butter will have peanut residue on thier clothing, peanut breath, peanut residue on their hands...oh my...what do you do? You attempt to sanitize and prevent a reaction. You carry an epi pen with you for your child. You do what YOU can to PREVENT a reaction. You can't change the world or rid everyone of peanut residue.
Generally the general public doesn't get close to my child 8 hours a day as a teacher would. They don't have constant interaction before and after mealtime and they don't have to help children constantly through the day the way EAs and phys ed teachers do. They aren't constantly touching or interacting with things my child touches.
BUt I don't need to tell you all this. You're a great teacher who knows best how to be respectful, kind and considerate of others.
Oh please with the false sense of security nonsense. I'm not dumb and neither is my kid. She'll know she has to be careful and how to administer her meds.
But I do expect respect from her teachers, and what your'e doing is pretty disrespectful and selfish.
This is NOT about respect. This is about YOUR responsibilities as a parent with a child who has a peanut allergy. Name a public place that is peanut free where you will have a 100% guarantee that your child will not be exposed. It's just not going to happen.
I think you might need counseling on how to deal with your daughter's allergies and the othe issues you have as far as thinking that you can lay down the law about peanuts. Hilarious, dear!
It's like talking to a duck.
I just have to stop talking to the quack, quack...aka Lanie.
I think its unfortunate, but its because that way there is a label on everything so the school can't be sued for letting a kid eating something with peanut in it when they are allergic.
same thing happened in my prenatal class. the teacher normally encouraged everyone to contribute break snacks, but in our session we could only bring pre-packaged goods.
I don't give a damn. Someone else's medical issue is not my fault or my responsibility. I have trouble digesting protein. I would never demand that people not have meat, because that's crazy.
There's no food that absolutely everyone would be okay to eat. If I am allergic to peanuts, that's my responsibility to make sure I provide non-peanut alternatives. If my kid is allergic to peanuts, that is absolutely my responsibility to make sure that he knows how to handle it, and until he is capable of doing so, to make sure that other treats are provided for him, but that doesn't mean I have to picket M&M/Mars to get them to close their doors.
I really HATE this issue. It's an abdication of personal responsibility and an infringement on other people's freedom of choice (and lunch).
Are you serious? I know you are, but really?
My daughter attends preK at a public montessori school, which is PreK-grade 6. She is 4 and the oldest in her class is 6. There is a boy in her class with severe nut allergies who just turned 5. You really think children- 4 to 6 year olds- are being stripped of personal responsibility because they cant bring homemade food to share? On what planet do you feel that this should have anything to do with personal responsibility or freedom of choice?
But I can argue the other side if you want. It forces them to take personal responsibility for the well being of a classmate to make sure they create a safe environment instead of an "all about me" mentality. As for freedom of choice? They can CHOOSE not to eat the food if they dont want it.
I think its unfortunate, but its because that way there is a label on everything so the school can't be sued for letting a kid eating something with peanut in it when they are allergic.
same thing happened in my prenatal class. the teacher normally encouraged everyone to contribute break snacks, but in our session we could only bring pre-packaged goods.
I don't give a damn. Someone else's medical issue is not my fault or my responsibility. I have trouble digesting protein. I would never demand that people not have meat, because that's crazy.
There's no food that absolutely everyone would be okay to eat. If I am allergic to peanuts, that's my responsibility to make sure I provide non-peanut alternatives. If my kid is allergic to peanuts, that is absolutely my responsibility to make sure that he knows how to handle it, and until he is capable of doing so, to make sure that other treats are provided for him, but that doesn't mean I have to picket M&M/Mars to get them to close their doors.
I really HATE this issue. It's an abdication of personal responsibility and an infringement on other people's freedom of choice (and lunch).
Are you serious? I know you are, but really?
My daughter attends preK at a public montessori school, which is PreK-grade 6. She is 4 and the oldest in her class is 6. There is a boy in her class with severe nut allergies who just turned 5. You really think children- 4 to 6 year olds- are being stripped of personal responsibility because they cant bring homemade food to share? On what planet do you feel that this should have anything to do with personal responsibility or freedom of choice?
But I can argue the other side if you want. It forces them to take personal responsibility for the well being of a classmate to make sure they create a safe environment instead of an "all about me" mentality. As for freedom of choice? They can CHOOSE not to eat the food if they dont want it.
God, sometimes you are so obtuse.
WTF? I'm arguing an issue, with specific, real-life examples. You, Katie and Matto are being completely personal about this. I'm not coming to your homes and rubbing your kids with cashews.
Meh, it's hard not to question someone's arguments in this thread. Autonomy and choice do not exist in elementary school. You have to put your hand up and ask for permission to pee.I'm ok with someone sending a note home from school asking me not to send tuna because of a fish allergy.
And of course you can't guarantee your child would be completely nut free out at walmart or the mall. But the mall and school can't really be directly compared. It's not somewhere my child needs to be in close confines with people 7 hours a day. Just as people get to have a workplace where they can work without constant danger, children also need to have accommodations made so that they are safe at school. Of course there will be accidents, people will pack peanuts accidentally etc...
but purposely choosing to bring nuts into a attempted nut free environment where you know there are allergies is beyond irresponsible to me.
And FWIW its a PITA to have a kid with a peanut allergy. Do you know how many times I've just wanted to slap PB&J together?
I think its unfortunate, but its because that way there is a label on everything so the school can't be sued for letting a kid eating something with peanut in it when they are allergic.
same thing happened in my prenatal class. the teacher normally encouraged everyone to contribute break snacks, but in our session we could only bring pre-packaged goods.
I don't give a damn. Someone else's medical issue is not my fault or my responsibility. I have trouble digesting protein. I would never demand that people not have meat, because that's crazy.
There's no food that absolutely everyone would be okay to eat. If I am allergic to peanuts, that's my responsibility to make sure I provide non-peanut alternatives. If my kid is allergic to peanuts, that is absolutely my responsibility to make sure that he knows how to handle it, and until he is capable of doing so, to make sure that other treats are provided for him, but that doesn't mean I have to picket M&M/Mars to get them to close their doors.
I really HATE this issue. It's an abdication of personal responsibility and an infringement on other people's freedom of choice (and lunch).
Are you serious? I know you are, but really?
My daughter attends preK at a public montessori school, which is PreK-grade 6. She is 4 and the oldest in her class is 6. There is a boy in her class with severe nut allergies who just turned 5. You really think children- 4 to 6 year olds- are being stripped of personal responsibility because they cant bring homemade food to share? On what planet do you feel that this should have anything to do with personal responsibility or freedom of choice?
But I can argue the other side if you want. It forces them to take personal responsibility for the well being of a classmate to make sure they create a safe environment instead of an "all about me" mentality. As for freedom of choice? They can CHOOSE not to eat the food if they dont want it.
God, sometimes you are so obtuse.
WTF? I'm arguing an issue, with specific, real-life examples. You, Katie and Matto are being completely personal about this. I'm not coming to your homes and rubbing your kids with cashews.
I was using specific, real life examples too. You're contradicting yourself repeatedly and your logic makes no sense. At all.
Just to sum it up: Not allowing children to bring in homemade foods to share is taking
away their civil liberties and undermining personal responsibility, and you feel that one child's god given right to snack preference outweighs the life threatening condition of another child. Got it.
Lori you are arguing for the sake of arguing. You are normally not like this. If a childs life is at risk because of a peanut allergy then yes it is the schools responsibility to take every measure possible to keep that child safe. When my child is in that school for 8 hours a day they have to do that it's what I am paying them to do. I do apologize for making it personal I just get heated about kids,
Weird, but could be due to an allergy thing?? Store bought goods must list the ingredients whereas those w/o allergies aren't always as vigilant...no offense to anyone. I used to be one of those ppl who didn't worry about ingredients b/f DD was born w/ a dairy allergy.
ETA: I didn't realize the sh!t storm that had occurred in all the replies previously.
I think its unfortunate, but its because that way there is a label on everything so the school can't be sued for letting a kid eating something with peanut in it when they are allergic.
same thing happened in my prenatal class. the teacher normally encouraged everyone to contribute break snacks, but in our session we could only bring pre-packaged goods.
I don't give a damn. Someone else's medical issue is not my fault or my responsibility. I have trouble digesting protein. I would never demand that people not have meat, because that's crazy.
There's no food that absolutely everyone would be okay to eat. If I am allergic to peanuts, that's my responsibility to make sure I provide non-peanut alternatives. If my kid is allergic to peanuts, that is absolutely my responsibility to make sure that he knows how to handle it, and until he is capable of doing so, to make sure that other treats are provided for him, but that doesn't mean I have to picket M&M/Mars to get them to close their doors.
I really HATE this issue. It's an abdication of personal responsibility and an infringement on other people's freedom of choice (and lunch).
::standing ovation::
I agree with every word, except having protein digestion issues, I don't have those, but still, well said.
Hmmm. Basically, if you can't make the "sacrifice" of not packing foods containing peanuts in your child's food while they're at school based on some sort of personal rights issue, you really need to pick your battles better.
As it's already been pointed out, toddlers and young children don't know how to control their environment or how to avoid possible peanut contamination. I'm sure their parents will teach them how to do this as they get older, but they don't have the concept of personal responsibility yet. And like Lanie pointed out, a place where children have to stand in line to go to the bathroom and raise their hand to speak may not be the place to exercise their personal liberties. It's where kids learn to respect each other, and part of that is preventing possible death by not packing an ingredient that could kill a child in your lunch.
Seriously. It's peanuts. If your kid can't go 7 hours without ingesting peanuts, there are larger issues there.
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You all need to get a grip here. Yes, I got annoyed when our school did the peanut free thing. We had signs that said this school is peanut free. Then about a month later we were told to take them down at a faculty meeting because they promised something we could not control. We had to replace them with a sign that said something along the lines of please don't bring peanuts to school.
Guess what, I still ate my granny smith apples with pb during school in the faculty room during my pregnancy. In my opinion, anyone with an allergy should be prepared for a reaction to the allergen. I think we need to educate children about what they are allergic too and teach them what to do if they believe they are having a reaction. Promising that a school is peanut free is a difficult one and it won't happen 100%. I think it's awful for a child to go through a life threatening event/reaction. Attempting to prevent is what should happen. However teaching the child who will become an adult ways to live/protect themselves is imperative. I think peanut free schools give a false sense of security.
My child can't administer her own epi pen during the throat closing process. But I would just adore finding out that you were eating peanuts after specifically being asked not to so that you didn't kill my kid.
Oooh that lawsuit would get her right through 3 PhD's and Med school.
Exactly! I thought that was mighty irresponsible of her.
I was responsible for my self and my child. I was following my gestational diabetes diet which required protein at lunch. I was responsible by eating in the faculty room away from the child who had an allergy. I was responsible by washing my hands.
OMG for real? Because we all know that peanut butter is the only protien out there. Have a freakin cheese stick.
You put a child at risk because you had to have peanut butter for lunch, I bet you are a peach of a teacher. I would so want you teaching my kids. I mean if you care this much about a deadly allergy, I bet you are the best in the classroom.
Well, it goes back to my point that attendance is necessary to obtain an education. Having a PB&J at lunchtime is not. It's not a difficult rule to comprehend. Suspending the students doesn't seem fair when it's the parents' responsibility, but the school doesn't have a means to punish parents other than through the students. I guess they could just let the parents of the hospitalized child sue.
But peanut butter isn't a weapon. It's a food. It's a food a lot of young children like, and a food WIC supplies to low-income families as a high-protein food that is good for kids' nutritional needs.
Putting a policy into place actually creates a situation where the district COULD be sued. If you don't have a policy, it's the parents' responsibility to take care of their own kids' health.
Having everyone in a school conform to the needs of a child with disabilties of any kind is not the solution. Creating a mechanism that allows a kid to participate is. Kids in wheelchairs don't demand all kids be in wheelchairs. Kids who are blind don't demand that all kids be blindfolded. It is never the responsibility of the group to conform to the need of the challenged, but to find ways for someone with challenges to better integrate.
Like a bubble? I'm sure the kid would feel completely integrated.
Stay at home mom to a house of boys: two amazing stepsons, 12 and 9, and our 4 year old.
Can I say that I'm honestly glad after watching shoes like Hoarders and How Clean is Your House?
I'm not a germ-o-phobe by any stretch of the imagination, but I do admit that I have a WTF am I REALLY eating moment when I eat food that has been prepared in strangers' kitchens. I wasn't like this until I watched Clean House shows.
For this reason exactly, I hate potlucks at work. I've never been to these people's home. They could be just like those hoarders for all I know. But, to be fair, I also have issues with buffets and other community offered food
Yeaaaah.... I don't do salad bars, or buffets, or potlucks, etc. I won't eat any homemade foods unless I know the kitchen and habits of the cook. I've seen too many people (WOMEN) in the ladies' room walk out without washing their hands. I refuse to eat something someone like that may have cooked. And the general home cleanliness question is an issue for me too.
As for the school thing though, I do think it's sad, but necessary. My mother used to bake for all of my older brother's and my teachers, and I remember several being excited when I showed up in class the first day b/c they joked that meant they'd be getting my mother's goodies around holidays.
But nowadays, it seems like there are so many more issues with allergies, and wackos, that it's not worth the liability.
My son has the same policy at his school. I was a little disappointed, but I can completely understand. Things need to be labeled for allergy purposes, not to mention that there are some real weirdos out there... not that they couldn't just open the package and do something to it.
My daycare has this rule as well and I LOVE it. I don't want DD eating crap that some stranger made. How do I know how clean they cook or if they washed their hands?
weird, but sadly i think it's becoming the "norm". i was shocked to see so many wal-mart/kroger/etc cakes at our christmas bizarre cake walk. if i wanted a wal-mart cake, i'd go by one, kwim?
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I have heard several family members with kids in school say this. Something about allergies to different things but to be honest I am one of those people that won't eat something unless I know who made it and I guess I don't want my kids eating stuff from someone I don't know.
I remember when I was in school if it was someones birthday the parents normally brought in homemade treats, things have changes. I will say I munched on the stuff back then, it was before Horders was on TV. LOL
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Not weird. I would rather bake something to send, but I understand why the rule is there. In the grand scheme of things, I don't see this as a big deal. At all.
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And this post isn't Nut-Free either! Goodnight ladies...
That's what trained caregivers, teachers, and nurses are there for as far as administering an epi pen.
Sue happy? Who are you going to sue when your child has a reaction at WalMart or some other store or restaurant because she came in contact with nuts? I was not asked to not eat peanuts...signs were posted that the school was peanut free and then taken down as there was and can't be a 100% guarantee that a school would be peanut free.
As a mother with a child who has an allergy...start thinking about how you are setting your child up with a false sense of security that they will be protected against an allergic reaction in school. Think of all the places and people your child will come in contact with. How are you going to 100% prevent a reaction everywhere you go? Place the responsiblity on YOU and your child once they are able to have that responsibility.
For some children, peanuts on your breath will do it. A friend of mine couldn't be in the same room as peanut butter.
How is my child supposed to miraculously know that her teacher disobeyed the rules of the school and faculty, decided to be an ignorant idiot, and breathe on her after downing peanut butter?
BEES? Yes. Peanut butter breath on a selfish teacher? Sorry, my kid won't be psychic by 1st grade.
I've heard very little this selfish on here. Is it worth it to you? Better be. Because OH man that lawsuit would be delish.
The difference is the caregivers. I'm with jo with her epi pen and hyper aware of what we come in contact with at walmart. WIll I be able to prevent it?
No. But "peanut free" schools at least put penalties in place for people such as yourself who, as a teacher, id love to see out on her ass.
You're a sad role model. The school is trying to make a safe environment. I hardly expect it to be entirely nut free from a child perspective but from teachers? i'm shocked at you. really.
I was responsible for my self and my child. I was following my gestational diabetes diet which required protein at lunch. I was responsible by eating in the faculty room away from the child who had an allergy. I was responsible by washing my hands.
You are not nut free either if you think you can post on a public board and get your feathers all ruffled over opinions that don't agree with yours.
Oh please with the false sense of security nonsense. I'm not dumb and neither is my kid. She'll know she has to be careful and how to administer her meds.
But I do expect respect from her teachers, and what your'e doing is pretty disrespectful and selfish.
This is NOT about respect. This is about YOUR responsibilities as a parent with a child who has a peanut allergy. Name a public place that is peanut free where you will have a 100% guarantee that your child will not be exposed. It's just not going to happen.
I think you might need counseling on how to deal with your daughter's allergies and the othe issues you have as far as thinking that you can lay down the law about peanuts. Hilarious, dear!
Oh my...peanut residue...how horrid! People in public places who eat peanut butter will have peanut residue on thier clothing, peanut breath, peanut residue on their hands...oh my...what do you do? You attempt to sanitize and prevent a reaction. You carry an epi pen with you for your child. You do what YOU can to PREVENT a reaction. You can't change the world or rid everyone of peanut residue.
Now...now...lanie. You are intentionally asking for your child to be harmed? What an irresponsible parent!
Generally the general public doesn't get close to my child 8 hours a day as a teacher would. They don't have constant interaction before and after mealtime and they don't have to help children constantly through the day the way EAs and phys ed teachers do. They aren't constantly touching or interacting with things my child touches.
BUt I don't need to tell you all this. You're a great teacher who knows best how to be respectful, kind and considerate of others.
I just have to stop talking to the quack, quack...aka Lanie.
Are you serious? I know you are, but really?
My daughter attends preK at a public montessori school, which is PreK-grade 6. She is 4 and the oldest in her class is 6. There is a boy in her class with severe nut allergies who just turned 5. You really think children- 4 to 6 year olds- are being stripped of personal responsibility because they cant bring homemade food to share? On what planet do you feel that this should have anything to do with personal responsibility or freedom of choice?
But I can argue the other side if you want. It forces them to take personal responsibility for the well being of a classmate to make sure they create a safe environment instead of an "all about me" mentality. As for freedom of choice? They can CHOOSE not to eat the food if they dont want it.
God, sometimes you are so obtuse.
WTF? I'm arguing an issue, with specific, real-life examples. You, Katie and Matto are being completely personal about this. I'm not coming to your homes and rubbing your kids with cashews.
Meh, it's hard not to question someone's arguments in this thread. Autonomy and choice do not exist in elementary school. You have to put your hand up and ask for permission to pee.I'm ok with someone sending a note home from school asking me not to send tuna because of a fish allergy.
And of course you can't guarantee your child would be completely nut free out at walmart or the mall. But the mall and school can't really be directly compared. It's not somewhere my child needs to be in close confines with people 7 hours a day. Just as people get to have a workplace where they can work without constant danger, children also need to have accommodations made so that they are safe at school. Of course there will be accidents, people will pack peanuts accidentally etc...
but purposely choosing to bring nuts into a attempted nut free environment where you know there are allergies is beyond irresponsible to me.
And FWIW its a PITA to have a kid with a peanut allergy. Do you know how many times I've just wanted to slap PB&J together?
I was using specific, real life examples too. You're contradicting yourself repeatedly and your logic makes no sense. At all.
Just to sum it up: Not allowing children to bring in homemade foods to share is taking away their civil liberties and undermining personal responsibility, and you feel that one child's god given right to snack preference outweighs the life threatening condition of another child. Got it.
Weird, but could be due to an allergy thing?? Store bought goods must list the ingredients whereas those w/o allergies aren't always as vigilant...no offense to anyone. I used to be one of those ppl who didn't worry about ingredients b/f DD was born w/ a dairy allergy.
ETA: I didn't realize the sh!t storm that had occurred in all the replies previously.
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I agree with every word, except having protein digestion issues, I don't have those, but still, well said.
Hmmm. Basically, if you can't make the "sacrifice" of not packing foods containing peanuts in your child's food while they're at school based on some sort of personal rights issue, you really need to pick your battles better.
As it's already been pointed out, toddlers and young children don't know how to control their environment or how to avoid possible peanut contamination. I'm sure their parents will teach them how to do this as they get older, but they don't have the concept of personal responsibility yet. And like Lanie pointed out, a place where children have to stand in line to go to the bathroom and raise their hand to speak may not be the place to exercise their personal liberties. It's where kids learn to respect each other, and part of that is preventing possible death by not packing an ingredient that could kill a child in your lunch.
Seriously. It's peanuts. If your kid can't go 7 hours without ingesting peanuts, there are larger issues there.
OMG for real? Because we all know that peanut butter is the only protien out there. Have a freakin cheese stick.
You put a child at risk because you had to have peanut butter for lunch, I bet you are a peach of a teacher. I would so want you teaching my kids. I mean if you care this much about a deadly allergy, I bet you are the best in the classroom.
Like a bubble? I'm sure the kid would feel completely integrated.
Yeaaaah.... I don't do salad bars, or buffets, or potlucks, etc. I won't eat any homemade foods unless I know the kitchen and habits of the cook. I've seen too many people (WOMEN) in the ladies' room walk out without washing their hands. I refuse to eat something someone like that may have cooked. And the general home cleanliness question is an issue for me too.
As for the school thing though, I do think it's sad, but necessary. My mother used to bake for all of my older brother's and my teachers, and I remember several being excited when I showed up in class the first day b/c they joked that meant they'd be getting my mother's goodies around holidays.
But nowadays, it seems like there are so many more issues with allergies, and wackos, that it's not worth the liability.
My son has the same policy at his school. I was a little disappointed, but I can completely understand. Things need to be labeled for allergy purposes, not to mention that there are some real weirdos out there... not that they couldn't just open the package and do something to it.
Not weird.
My daycare has this rule as well and I LOVE it. I don't want DD eating crap that some stranger made. How do I know how clean they cook or if they washed their hands?
I have heard several family members with kids in school say this. Something about allergies to different things but to be honest I am one of those people that won't eat something unless I know who made it and I guess I don't want my kids eating stuff from someone I don't know.
I remember when I was in school if it was someones birthday the parents normally brought in homemade treats, things have changes. I will say I munched on the stuff back then, it was before Horders was on TV. LOL
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at the schitstorm this post caused! Wow! I just read all the replies.
Very interesting read for sure.
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I can't believe this post is still going well into the next morning. Aren't you sorry you asked?
Nah, it was interesting reading all of the responses, to be honest.
Plus, I got to see your hilarious siggy pic multiple times throughout.
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