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ironmommy · October 2009

I haven't seen any of the posts you're referring to, punk, but both are insane.

I would never ever leave Lily in a locked car alone to do anything, and I would not even dream of leaving her in the tub to go to another room. Maybe it's living in Arizona where we are super-schooled on water safety, but what could possibly cause you to go into another room (let alone turn your back) on your kid while they're in the bath? That's really crazy.

cabbage5215 · October 2009

I'm a little over the top with the bath tub. I won't even look away I am so crazy. In the summer my mom was putting DD in the bath tub keep her cool and I was annoyed she was holding a conversation and not paying attention to DD when I came in the room. I told my mom not to look away from DD- joking but not really.

I have not yet left DD in the car at the gas station but I have done it to put my cart away.

Fordlor · October 2009

I'm paranoid of something happening to DD in the tub. I'm always right there. I remember several years ago I went to visit a friend of mine. She had two kids: one was four years old and the other was 20 months old. She put them in the bath and then we went outside to smoke (well, she was smoking, I was just hanging out with her). I couldn't believe she would leave her kids alone in the tub. I kept thinking OMG anything could happen. She left them for a good 10 minutes. I was too shocked to say anything. I vowed I would never do that to any of my kids.

Too much can happen in just a few seconds. Like pp said, water does not forgive.

the_mulva · October 2009

Monkeybuttwhat:

My mom always did that when we were kids like would leave me there for an hour and the water would be freezing but I was too little to get out by myself. It was awful I would cry and scream and bang on the tub to get her to come back and get me. I just never want to be like her.

okay, aside from the fact that you ppl kill me w/ all the "i can't believe you would do x, you're a bad mom!" crapola....

this story is just sad. poor baby!

kirbabe · October 2009

Whoa! I missed last night's poll! That's very unsettling that people would leave their kids, even for a moment. I get nervous if I have to stand up to get a towel (I'm not even moving away from the side of the tub, just standing). DS must have a slippery butt, because that kid has slipped so many times in the tub, not even standing up, just sitting there playing or scooting on his butt, it squirts out from underneath him, and I've caught him everytime.

Gramyson · October 2009

this is why she's never taken a bath without us in there with her. i'm scared shitless of water and i was on the swim team in highschool when she's in there alone in a few months i will hover hover hover. ugh, the above stories are breaking my heart.

i also know 2 different couples who have lost toddlers to drowning. it absolutely breaks my heart.

.DietDrPepper. · October 2009

OH PLEASE.

you started the "hypothetical mom questions" and now you are the first one to throw stones? get over yourself.

DelGrecoBride · October 2009

i lifegaurded through highschool and college and taught swimming lessons up until a couple years ago. Each year i got recertified they stressed how easy it is for babies/children to drown. They can easily drown in just a puddle of water.

SBear12 · October 2009

Momma.Brown:

our bathroom is teeny weeny. i can sit on the toilet, put my feet in the tub and brush my teeth at the sink all at the same time. i dont but i am trying to give a visual as to the teeny-ness. there is literally no place to store towels and there is only one towel rack.

i often forget izzy's towel. know what i do? take off my shirt and use it as a towel. there's no good reason to leave her unattended. i can put another shirt on. i cant fix a drowned or burned baby.

Yep... this exactly. We also have a tiny bathroom and I often forget to restock towels before DD's bath. So I turn on the heat lamp and dry her with my shirt. I thought I was just being paranoid, but the other day she bent her head down to chew on a toy in the water just as I looked away, and I nearly had a heart attack when I turned back and saw her facing down like that.

I am NOT a risk-taker, especially with my kid. Missed the poll the other night, but 50%?!? Seriously???

BriansTracy · October 2009

I missed the first post, but this disturbs me! I couldn't fathom leaving DD in the bath tub even for one second while I left the room. My husband or I are always right next to the tub for her entire bath. She still managed to slip while just sitting in the tub and fall flat in the water. She was scooped up the second she fell, but still choked a little on the water. I couldn't imagine that happening while we "just left for a second".

femmeftle9 · October 2009

LoriFalce:

I would never leave him in the car, either. The difference in the two? He's a risk to himself in the tub. The car that could hit us would be the risk at the gas station. I'm not worried about him being stolen as much as I am something happening to the car and him getting hurt that way.

But what if you have your DH with you & decide to leave them BOTH in the car & walk into the store briefly? The same thing could happen, even though he has an adult with him in the car. That factor voids this analogy to me.

femmeftle9 · October 2009

I take a bath with DD at night, in my master bath in the jacuzzi tub (we have a separate shower stall). Usually, I get out first and finish my routine in the bathroom, DD plays an extra couple minutes. And I'm facing a bigass mirror that has DD in the reflection.

If she starts to get discontent, I usually take her out, dry her off then just let her run around naked and pray she doesn't pee or poop anywhere!

Right now, her favorite thing is to do her own version of the cannonball- She stands up in the tub & then plops right down into the water...LOL.

LoriFalce · October 2009

femmeftle9:
LoriFalce:

I would never leave him in the car, either. The difference in the two? He's a risk to himself in the tub. The car that could hit us would be the risk at the gas station. I'm not worried about him being stolen as much as I am something happening to the car and him getting hurt that way.

But what if you have your DH with you & decide to leave them BOTH in the car & walk into the store briefly? The same thing could happen, even though he has an adult with him in the car. That factor voids this analogy to me.

Not surprising considering you have no problem leaving your daughter in the car to go get coffee.

The difference is that my husband would be in the car with the kid in the event that something would happen. Joseph wouldn't be scared and alone in the car during an accident. And if there was a problem that could be avoided, my husband would be there to move the car, etc.

Seriously, Femme, WTF?

lpennie16 · October 2009

You can also set your water heater in your house at a certain temp so no one is ever even close to being scalded. I guess if there were no towels in the bathroom I'd just set DS down on the rug naked and go get one. (after the bathwater had all drained naturally)

lisaroo · October 2009

Several things in this thread made me so so sad I am glad that I have always been very careful around water and DD and bathtime in general. I am super paranoid of her slipping and hitting her head in there too.

And ditto lpennie; we have our water heater turned down a bit. I am sure she could still hurt herself, but not scald.

Monkeybuttwhat · October 2009

femmeftle9:
I take a bath with DD at night, in my master bath in the jacuzzi tub (we have a separate shower stall). Usually, I get out first and finish my routine in the bathroom, DD plays an extra couple minutes. And I'm facing a bigass mirror that has DD in the reflection.

If she starts to get discontent, I usually take her out, dry her off then just let her run around naked and pray she doesn't pee or poop anywhere!

Right now, her favorite thing is to do her own version of the cannonball- She stands up in the tub & then plops right down into the water...LOL.

Yikes. I hope she never hits her head or anything doing cannon call while you are in the stand up shower. It sounds like your master bath is the same exact setup as mine. That jacuzzi tub is so deep .

femmeftle9 · October 2009

LoriFalce:
femmeftle9:
LoriFalce:

I would never leave him in the car, either. The difference in the two? He's a risk to himself in the tub. The car that could hit us would be the risk at the gas station. I'm not worried about him being stolen as much as I am something happening to the car and him getting hurt that way.

But what if you have your DH with you & decide to leave them BOTH in the car & walk into the store briefly? The same thing could happen, even though he has an adult with him in the car. That factor voids this analogy to me.

Not surprising considering you have no problem leaving your daughter in the car to go get coffee.

The difference is that my husband would be in the car with the kid in the event that something would happen. Joseph wouldn't be scared and alone in the car during an accident. And if there was a problem that could be avoided, my husband would be there to move the car, etc.

Seriously, Femme, WTF?

Really Lori, you can't use that against me any more... did you not read my fvcking drive-thru post???

I'm assuming in your analogy that your DH would be sitting in the passenger side, DS in the backseat. If a car were to hit your sitting car, it would already be too late for your DH to do anything, unless it was a minor collision.

Even if he were in the drivers side, I am willing to say that chances are he would not be able to move the car fast enough or even notice.

Thus, that analogy does not work for your argument. Sorry.

I'm not trying to argue against you, but I'm just saying, that is not a good example.

femmeftle9 · October 2009

Monkeybuttwhat:
femmeftle9:

I take a bath with DD at night, in my master bath in the jacuzzi tub (we have a separate shower stall). Usually, I get out first and finish my routine in the bathroom, DD plays an extra couple minutes. And I'm facing a bigass mirror that has DD in the reflection.

If she starts to get discontent, I usually take her out, dry her off then just let her run around naked and pray she doesn't pee or poop anywhere!

Right now, her favorite thing is to do her own version of the cannonball- She stands up in the tub & then plops right down into the water...LOL.

Yikes. I hope she never hits her head or anything doing cannon call while you are in the stand up shower. It sounds like your master bath is the same exact setup as mine. That jacuzzi tub is so deep .

??? I take a bath with DD. On the rare occasion that I'm in the shower, DD's with me in the shower. What I meant was I stand in front of the counter at the mirror while she's still in the tub, where she is in plain sight in the same room.

VinBert · October 2009

LoriFalce · October 2009

femmeftle9:
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Really Lori, you can't use that against me any more... did you not read my fvcking drive-thru post???

I'm assuming in your analogy that your DH would be sitting in the passenger side, DS in the backseat. If a car were to hit your sitting car, it would already be too late for your DH to do anything, unless it was a minor collision.

Even if he were in the drivers side, I am willing to say that chances are he would not be able to move the car fast enough or even notice.

Thus, that analogy does not work for your argument. Sorry.

I'm not trying to argue against you, but I'm just saying, that is not a good example.

Actually no, I didn't read the drive-thru post. But it doesn't change the fact that you've defended your penchant for leaving her in the car before, and this is a post that cited the same thing. I'd have thought, under the circumstances, you'd be smart enough to back away.

And frankly, anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion, in perpetuity. That's how stuff goes here. Ask KY.

It was your analogy, not mine, that my husband would be in the car. And I don't like to drive, so if he's in the car, he's probably in the driver's seat.

If you can't see the fact that a parent in the car is better than a baby alone in a vehicle, there's really absolutely no point in talking to you. None. It's ludicrous that you would even argue this point.

And in your "it wouldn't help anyway" position, you're missing the same point that was made to you during the Starbucks incident. Say something happens. Someone hits the car. Cops are called. You get in trouble for leaving your kid alone in the car, which is illegal. My husband is in the car, regardless of what seat he's in, we're not getting a ticket.

femmeftle9 · October 2009

LoriFalce:
femmeftle9:
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Really Lori, you can't use that against me any more... did you not read my fvcking drive-thru post???

I'm assuming in your analogy that your DH would be sitting in the passenger side, DS in the backseat. If a car were to hit your sitting car, it would already be too late for your DH to do anything, unless it was a minor collision.

Even if he were in the drivers side, I am willing to say that chances are he would not be able to move the car fast enough or even notice.

Thus, that analogy does not work for your argument. Sorry.

I'm not trying to argue against you, but I'm just saying, that is not a good example.

Actually no, I didn't read the drive-thru post. But it doesn't change the fact that you've defended your penchant for leaving her in the car before, and this is a post that cited the same thing. I'd have thought, under the circumstances, you'd be smart enough to back away.

And frankly, anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion, in perpetuity. That's how stuff goes here. Ask KY.

It was your analogy, not mine, that my husband would be in the car. And I don't like to drive, so if he's in the car, he's probably in the driver's seat.

If you can't see the fact that a parent in the car is better than a baby alone in a vehicle, there's really absolutely no point in talking to you. None. It's ludicrous that you would even argue this point.

And in your "it wouldn't help anyway" position, you're missing the same point that was made to you during the Starbucks incident. Say something happens. Someone hits the car. Cops are called. You get in trouble for leaving your kid alone in the car, which is illegal. My husband is in the car, regardless of what seat he's in, we're not getting a ticket.

You're missing the point. I was not defending anything. I was saying that I did not find that to be a good analogy for your argument for the stated reasons, that is all. Can someone critique an argument? If I see an erroneous (sp) point, I'm going to point it out.

But go on. Continue to be the perfect parent you are.

LoriFalce · October 2009

femmeftle9:
You're missing the point. I was not defending anything. I was saying that I did not find that to be a good analogy for your argument for the stated reasons, that is all. Can someone critique an argument? If I see an erroneous (sp) point, I'm going to point it out.
But go on. Continue to be the perfect parent you are.

Well, if you don't get it, you're never going to get it, so we'll set that aside. It wasn't an error. Leaving a human being in the car with a toddler strapped in a seat isn't ever going to be an error, and neither is the logic behind it.

And I have NEVER said I'm a perfect parent. Ever. Evereverever. My kid watches TV, eats non-organic processed food, likes lollipops and doesn't take a bath every night. There are plenty of places were I could do better and probably should. But there are also areas, like whether I leave my kid alone in a car, where I think I've pretty much got it down.

Mrs.State746 · October 2009

punkfiction:
as to how on earth so many of you would never leave your kid in a locked car while you ran into the gas station (and can see your car), but 50% OF YOU would let your kid sit in the bath tub alone while you went into another room to get a towel. wtf. seriously?

Well here in the state of Washington is AGAINST the law to leave a child in the car unattended. I am a law abiding person. So no I will NOT leave him in the car plus there are way to many unknown factors in this theory.. And second it only takes 2 inches of water for a baby to drown, or a person for that matter. So NO I do not leave the room. If I need a towel I forgot I drain the tub and get it when there is ZERO water in the tub.

But you know what, people are going to do what they want to do, and will have an excuse for it. That's life, no one is perfect everyone is human. I guess for me I always way my options and possible outcomes.

punkfiction · October 2009

.DietDrPepper.:
OH PLEASE.

you started the "hypothetical mom questions" and now you are the first one to throw stones? get over yourself.

when the point of a thread comes flying at you, do you just duck so you miss it completely?

i dont care who does what. as i stated. but its was the hypocrisy of so many people judging others for the car situations, but then in a private clicky poll, 50% listed that theyd leave their kids in the tub alone. like you said in the other thread, so many liars. that sucks that people care so much to have to lie.

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