Toddlers: 12 - 24 Months

F/U to unemployment question

My job is seriously a nightmare. The work itself is pretty stressful but it?s the environment that makes it unbearable. I?ve been applying for jobs for two years but haven?t found anything yet (weird, specialized type job and crappy job market). I work with someone who blatantly lies about things, takes credit for my projects, badmouths everyone to everyone else (including to me and about me), among a whole bunch of other stuff. For a while, I thought I was just being supersensitive. Then we hired a new person and she?s been here just six months and has already cried several times and has the same issues I have ? so it wasn?t just my imagination.

 

The problem is that person causing all the drama is considered a rising star at my company. No one would believe any of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

 

In terms of health problems, I struggled with chronic pain that laid up in bed for two weeks about two years ago ? they never found a problem but diagnosed with me fibromyalgia and said the outbreak was prob due to stress. I also suffer from migraines. Finally, I am convinced my gestational diabetes was due to my work environment ? because the only time I ever had trouble with my blood sugar was at work ? never at home, never on weekends. And stress is known to cause blood sugar levels to rise.

 

Anyway, just wanted to put that out there ? I?m not a deadbeat who?d try to scam the system or anything. I may just quit and find a nanny job that will let me bring DS along with me. I was just wondering about unemployment because obvs it would be great to collect while I looked for something else.

Re: F/U to unemployment question

  • You aren't going to be able to draw unemployment. I saw your previous post, and even given the conditions, you would have to likely hire a lawyer, because it's going to be hard to prove you should get unemployment because of those reasons.

    Your DH is unemployed too. I am worried about you RR. I really think that even though your job is stressful, your family likely needs your income and health benefits. 

    I would continue looking for a new job, and definitely DO NOT quit until you have something else lined up.

    You know me, I tell it how I see it, and I am concerned that you are going to quit and really screw yourself. Given your current financial situation, this seems like one of those cases where you just have to suck it up. Go to HR w. your complaints about this person.  It may help the situation if they are made aware of it.

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    You aren't going to be able to draw unemployment. I saw your previous post, and even given the conditions, you would have to likely hire a lawyer, because it's going to be hard to prove you should get unemployment because of those reasons.

    Your DH is unemployed too. I am worried about you RR. I really think that even though your job is stressful, your family likely needs your income and health benefits. 

    I would continue looking for a new job, and definitely DO NOT quit until you have something else lined up.

    You know me, I tell it how I see it, and I am concerned that you are going to quit and really screw yourself. Given your current financial situation, this seems like one of those cases where you just have to suck it up. Go to HR w. your complaints about this person.  It may help the situation if they are made aware of it.

    In terms of health insurance, there's always COBRA or private insurance. And DH is working as a bartender now so he is bringing in some money (though not nearly as much as he used to or I do now). We are already losing our house (DH has admitted that he's not going even try to get a job like he had before so there's no way we can afford it anymore -  we are trying to short sell).

    So basically I'm busting my ass at a horrible job so that I still can't afford our bills and DH gets to bartend? I can't keep doing it. I know it sounds irresponsible but my staying here is affecting my health, my marriage, and I'm afraid it will start affecting my time with DS. He doesn't deserve to have a mom who is so stressed out and miserable all the time.

  • I just saw your OP a few minutes ago.  I think this varies from state to state.  I'm pretty sure in PA that if you quit, you can't collect.  Now being fired is a different story.  In PA, if you are fired for cause (stealing, selling clients to the competition, etc.), you cannot collect.  If you have a proven solid history with the company and get fired for no reason, it's quite possible you could collect.  If you suspect that you could be fired, save all letters, emails, etc. that praise/compliment your work.

    I am on unemployment right now.  The company that I worked for for 11 years was struggling - big time - and the managing partner said it was only a matter of time until someone got laid off.  DH and I crunched the numbers and with the 20% paycut I had been given, if I could get laid off, collect unemployment and us not have to pay daycare, it was pretty much a wash.  So, after weeks of talking it over with DH, I approached my boss with this proposition and he agreed to it.  It helped us (we were having issues with the one woman who watched Ben 2 days/week) and it helped save one of my co-workers from losing their job.  I have worked full-time for 18.5 years (half my life), I've paid my taxes and have never taken advantage of the system.  I don't have one regret/speck of guilt for taking this time with my son and collecting unemployment while I do so. 

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    I just saw your OP a few minutes ago.  I think this varies from state to state.  I'm pretty sure in PA that if you quit, you can't collect.  Now being fired is a different story.  In PA, if you are fired for cause (stealing, selling clients to the competition, etc.), you cannot collect.  If you have a proven solid history with the company and get fired for no reason, it's quite possible you could collect.  If you suspect that you could be fired, save all letters, emails, etc. that praise/compliment your work.

    I am on unemployment right now.  The company that I worked for for 11 years was struggling - big time - and the managing partner said it was only a matter of time until someone got laid off.  DH and I crunched the numbers and with the 20% paycut I had been given, if I could get laid off, collect unemployment and us not have to pay daycare, it was pretty much a wash.  So, after weeks of talking it over with DH, I approached my boss with this proposition and he agreed to it.  It helped us (we were having issues with the one woman who watched Ben 2 days/week) and it helped save one of my co-workers from losing their job.  I have worked full-time for 18.5 years (half my life), I've paid my taxes and have never taken advantage of the system.  I don't have one regret/speck of guilt for taking this time with my son and collecting unemployment while I do so. 

    I hope you don't think I was implying that I think people on unemployment are deadbeats! Not at all - DH is also collecting after being laid off in Feb. I just didn't want readers to think I was thinking of quitting because I was lazy and didn't want to work and still get paid. What you did is totally legit and I would do the same. If they told me they were going to have to lay someone off, I would be first in line to volunteer.

  • Oh, and I forgot to say, do you know a labor attorney?  A friend of mine knows one and I spoke with him before I had this conversation with my boss.  I just wanted to make sure I wasn't shooting myself in the foot.

    As far as COBRA goes, how many employees does your company have?  Mine has less than 20, and was not required to offer COBRA.  Now, there was just some new legislation passed that stipulates that small companies do have to make COBRA available - but there are quite a few conditions to the way you separate from the company (which I also believe is the case if it were a larger company). 

    Just be careful...and definitely talk to an attorney, if you can.  Best of luck to you!

  • I don't think you were implying that at all.  I noticed a comment in your OP about taking a vacay while abusing the system and my post was geared towards that.  To make blanket statements like that is ridiculous...not every situation is so cut and dry.
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    I may just quit and find a nanny job that will let me bring DS along with me.

    If you can do this, I absolutely would.  Several years ago DH was in a job that nearly destroyed him and our marriage, honestly.  I have seen first hand the toll that a toxic work environment can take on a person physically, mentally, and emotionally.  He did end up quitting.  Our situation was a bit different because I was also employed full-time, although my salary isn't spectacular.  It was really tight, and we were pretty broke until he found another job, but it was like he became a completely different person once he was out of that environment. 

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  • I know I am late posting but why the don't you look for a new job right now?  Find something, line it up, and than quit.  No one should stay in a job they are miserable in but I think it is irresponsible to quit w/o lining something else up (or having the means to support yourself like pp's have). 

    Also there is nothing wrong with being a FT bartender but this better be something that you are both okay with.  It sounds like you are not too thrilled with this.  If that is the case you need to talk with him and really come up with a good solid long term family plan.  There is no reason he too can't be looking for other work that is more comporable to his last position. 

    GL!  It sounds like you are all making some big decisions that will change your family and lives.

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