I'm on the fence. I do think that if we are uncomfortable about each other nursing... yeah it isn't helping the rest of the country catch up. But I do think that, especially now when so many people are still eeeked out by nursing in general, it's best to be as discreet as possible. I
This. I think it is fine that women nurse, admirable even, but I don't feel comfortable seeing someone else's boob in public...especially a stranger's or someone I just met. I don't think it has anything to do with women uniting or anything like that, I just think in our culture that many people aren't comfortable with seeing other people's private parts. No conspiracy or anything like that. It's just plain and simple, some poeple don't like being forced to stare at other's privates ;-) I have never been uncomfortable when someone NIP with a blanket or hooter hider....
I agree. Showering is a natural thing as well, but I don't do it in public, nor do I want to see anyone else doing it either.
I guess it's a double standard that society is creating. Society pushes breastfeeding (there is a billboard on 610 now) but we're supposed to only do it at home or in the car...behind closed doors? That's what bothers me. Don't shove it down my throat, but then tell me I have to be private about it. We all shower (or we're supposed to) but that's nothing new! We've been showering for AGES. The whole BFing thing has made a comeback (from when we were babies) but society obviously isn't ready for us to do it in the open. It just seems...like I said, a double standard.
As for me - I don't care if someone else feels comfortable enough to NIP without a cover. I personally don't, so I'll use a cover but that's just me. And my opinion could change once I'm doing it.
I'm on the fence. I do think that if we are uncomfortable about each other nursing... yeah it isn't helping the rest of the country catch up. But I do think that, especially now when so many people are still eeeked out by nursing in general, it's best to be as discreet as possible. I
This. I think it is fine that women nurse, admirable even, but I don't feel comfortable seeing someone else's boob in public...especially a stranger's or someone I just met. I don't think it has anything to do with women uniting or anything like that, I just think in our culture that many people aren't comfortable with seeing other people's private parts. No conspiracy or anything like that. It's just plain and simple, some poeple don't like being forced to stare at other's privates ;-) I have never been uncomfortable when someone NIP with a blanket or hooter hider....
I agree. Showering is a natural thing as well, but I don't do it in public, nor do I want to see anyone else doing it either.
showering and feeding my baby are not comparable.
FYI- when i have NIP no one has ever seen my full boob if i can help it. it sounds like there are only 2 options- NIP with a blanket so no one can see, or NIP w/out one and everyone sees your boob full on. you can be discreat without covering up your baby.
i look at it like gay marriage. i will call gay marriages civil unions if my marriage by a judge is also a civil union. i will promise to always use a cover when i NIP if people who bottle feed also cover their babies while they feed.
I'm on the fence. I do think that if we are uncomfortable about each other nursing... yeah it isn't helping the rest of the country catch up. But I do think that, especially now when so many people are still eeeked out by nursing in general, it's best to be as discreet as possible. I
This. I think it is fine that women nurse, admirable even, but I don't feel comfortable seeing someone else's boob in public...especially a stranger's or someone I just met. I don't think it has anything to do with women uniting or anything like that, I just think in our culture that many people aren't comfortable with seeing other people's private parts. No conspiracy or anything like that. It's just plain and simple, some poeple don't like being forced to stare at other's privates ;-) I have never been uncomfortable when someone NIP with a blanket or hooter hider....
I agree. Showering is a natural thing as well, but I don't do it in public, nor do I want to see anyone else doing it either.
showering and feeding my baby are not comparable.
FYI- when i have NIP no one has ever seen my full boob if i can help it. it sounds like there are only 2 options- NIP with a blanket so no one can see, or NIP w/out one and everyone sees your boob full on. you can be discreat without covering up your baby.
i look at it like gay marriage. i will call gay marriages civil unions if my marriage by a judge is also a civil union. i will promise to always use a cover when i NIP if people who bottle feed also cover their babies while they feed.
Well said. I do understand there are different comfort levels, but I think we all need to remember that this is about babies eating, not about breasts showing. I guess whether someone finds it offensive depends on which aspect they chose to focus on. We would not be doing it if it weren't for a baby that needed to eat. It just happens to be that their food comes out of a woman's breast. Just because our society associates breasts with unclean thoughts does not make a baby eating a dirty thing. I actually find a woman nursing her baby a beautiful thing. But that's just me.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
Haha. Breasts and feeding in their own right is not what I said though. I said I thought nursing is a beautiful thing, and I believe that regardless of where or how it's done. I don't walk around topless because I don't need to do that in order to feed my child. Nor do I need to shower in public to feed him. That's just me though.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
Haha. Breasts and feeding in their own right is not what I said though. I said I thought nursing is a beautiful thing, and I believe that regardless of where or how it's done. I don't walk around topless because I don't need to do that in order to feed my child. Nor do I need to shower in public to feed him. That's just me though.
And you don't need to flash your breasts in order to feed him either, that is what this lady was doing.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
Ha - I thought about the same thing. I would be uncomfortable NIP without a cover, but I also wouldn't go bra-less in public.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
Ha - I thought about the same thing. I would be uncomfortable NIP without a cover, but I also wouldn't go bra-less in public.
How is not wearing a bra the same as breastfeeding in public? Unless someone is braless AND shirtless in public, there is not a comparison. I know plenty of women with modest sized boobs that do not wear bras bc they are not necessary. The purpose of a bra is to assist a woman if she has saggy/large boobs that move alot when she walks (from what I understand of a bra) If your boobs don't sag/move alot etc then there is no need for a bra....Even if someone with large boobs didn't wear a bra, there is no exposure unless they are not covering their boobs. I am very confused.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
How does not wearing a bra expose yourself? Unless I am also not wearing a shirt, I am not exposed.
If breasts and feeding are beautiful to you, why not walk around topless all day?
That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
Ha - I thought about the same thing. I would be uncomfortable NIP without a cover, but I also wouldn't go bra-less in public.
How is not wearing a bra the same as breastfeeding in public? Unless someone is braless AND shirtless in public, there is not a comparison. I know plenty of women with modest sized boobs that do not wear bras bc they are not necessary. The purpose of a bra is to assist a woman if she has saggy/large boobs that move alot when she walks (from what I understand of a bra) If your boobs don't sag/move alot etc then there is no need for a bra....Even if someone with large boobs didn't wear a bra, there is no exposure unless they are not covering their boobs. I am very confused.
If someone is bra-less in a shirt that is covering everything that's one thing but most people I see that go bra-less is due to a lower cut top, those maxi dresses, etc. and I tend to think I see more boob that way then when people bf. Of course this doesn't count for everyone but the majority of what I see. Seeing boobs that I fear are going to fall out of someone's dress due to nothing holding them in makes me uncomfortable.
to me it's kind of like being offended by a speedo... or "marble bag"... it leaves nothing to the imagination and it's almost as going totally exposed. IE wearing no bra in public...
and usually when it's noticed is when the person wearing none shouldn't be. Just guessing though.
now a marble bag doesn't offend me, but I do often laugh at the person wearing it.
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
Ok, let me clarify. Are you seeing the WHOLE thing? Or just the actual boob and baby?
Cause I've seen V bf quite a bit (no cover) and I've seen about as much of her boob as I have of someone who dares to wear a lowcut dress and no bra.
Now, some of the pps mention taking the bra off and then getting the baby situated, so I could see getting a full view. But I guess I'm only comparing my experience to V and Jess and I've never seen either of their full on boob.
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
I agree 100%.
I don't believe anyone here is saying women SHOULDN'T BF in public, I think we are all (the dissenters) saying that it should be done discreetly. Just because one is comfortable with completely exposing oneself to others, doesn't mean others want to be exposed. I just don't see why it can't be done discreetly. I try to teach my child not to expose herself/her panties/etc in public., so isn't seeing this a bit counter-productive to that message. What's wrong with just a little modesty? (and I mean OUT IN PUBLIC, not among friends/family).
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NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
I agree 100%.
I don't believe anyone here is saying women SHOULDN'T BF in public, I think we are all (the dissenters) saying that it should be done discreetly. Just because one is comfortable with completely exposing oneself to others, doesn't mean others want to be exposed. I just don't see why it can't be done discreetly. I try to teach my child not to expose herself/her panties/etc in public., so isn't seeing this a bit counter-productive to that message. What's wrong with just a little modesty? (and I mean OUT IN PUBLIC, not among friends/family).
what's funny is that even those that are pro feeders aren't saying that they shouldn't be discreet. and the OP said would you ever do it.
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
Ok, let me clarify. Are you seeing the WHOLE thing? Or just the actual boob and baby?
Cause I've seen V bf quite a bit (no cover) and I've seen about as much of her boob as I have of someone who dares to wear a lowcut dress and no bra.
Now, some of the pps mention taking the bra off and then getting the baby situated, so I could see getting a full view. But I guess I'm only comparing my experience to V and Jess and I've never seen either of their full on boob.
I agree with Kreeper. I have definitely seen more of my friend's boobs in her maxi dresses (the one from the party at my house) than I have seen of V's or BPaullo's (the only example I can think of right now) boobs and both have nursed around me numerous times.
Granted, I think if someone whipped it out and I saw full on National Geographic, leaking boobs, that would be different and probably awkward (especially if there was sprayage) than just juggling the kid to get them latched on.
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
I agree 100%.
I don't believe anyone here is saying women SHOULDN'T BF in public, I think we are all (the dissenters) saying that it should be done discreetly. Just because one is comfortable with completely exposing oneself to others, doesn't mean others want to be exposed. I just don't see why it can't be done discreetly. I try to teach my child not to expose herself/her panties/etc in public., so isn't seeing this a bit counter-productive to that message. What's wrong with just a little modesty? (and I mean OUT IN PUBLIC, not among friends/family).
what's funny is that even those that are pro feeders aren't saying that they shouldn't be discreet. and the OP said would you ever do it.
it's all kind of gone off topic.
I think it went off-topic b/c the OP was judged/criticized for having a different opinion than a few others on this post.
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She would leave her whole boob out. Her son was crawling around, sometimes he would stop by and eat. I saw it all (well, not really because I kept looking away, but how are you supposed to maintain a conversation with someone like that?).
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
I agree 100%.
I don't believe anyone here is saying women SHOULDN'T BF in public, I think we are all (the dissenters) saying that it should be done discreetly. Just because one is comfortable with completely exposing oneself to others, doesn't mean others want to be exposed. I just don't see why it can't be done discreetly. I try ot teach my child not to expose herself/her panties/etc in public., so isn't seeing this a bit counter-productive to that message. What's wrong with just a little modesty? (and I mean OUT IN PUBLIC, not among friends/family).
I agree 100% with this. Nowhere in here have I read that anyone thinks a woman should retreat to her car or never leave her house if she wants to BF....I think everyone who dissents with full-on NIP has said that they don't have a problem with it if it is done discreetly. I have seen SEVERAL friends/acquiantances BF with hooter-hiders etc and have never even batted an eye....but it is when a boob is right in front of me that makes me uncomfortable. And I agree again with Callmekel, it is different if it is my sister or a close friend of mine and we're in the comforts of our homes....but if I am at lunch and someone is at the booth next to me bare breasted, I get uncomfortable. It has nothing to do with my feelings on BFing as a whole, as I support it and admire women who do it, but I don't like seeing stranger's boobs.
Just this weekend, a very beautiful friend of mine wore a gorgeous strapless black party dress and she didn't have a bra on. I couldn't even tell until she told me a little while ago while we were discussing this post. She looked smashing and I never even once thought of her breasts....there was definitely no exposure to them either...
I think it went off-topic b/c the OP was judged/criticized for having a different opinion than a few others on this post.
Maybe because it sounded like SHE was judging/criticizing those who do NIP. I know she said she didn't, but we all know her stance on NIP. She's said it before quite a few times - I recall a post where she mentioned not even BFing in Nordstroms nursing mom corner (or whatever that is). So we all know it's not her thing. Had she phrased the words differently maybe it would have come across differently. But the way it was said, said to me that she judged that girl. And I don't currently BF at all...
She would leave her whole boob out. Her son was crawling around, sometimes he would stop by and eat. I saw it all (well, not really because I kept looking away, but how are you supposed to maintain a conversation with someone like that?).
Ok. I get that. I'm not all about swinging boobs. But NIP without a cover...like I said, I've seen less of V's boob than I have of a girl in the mall wearing a maxi dress.
I think it went off-topic b/c the OP was judged/criticized for having a different opinion than a few others on this post.
Maybe because it sounded like SHE was judging/criticizing those who do NIP. I know she said she didn't, but we all know her stance on NIP. She's said it before quite a few times - I recall a post where she mentioned not even BFing in Nordstroms nursing mom corner (or whatever that is). So we all know it's not her thing. Had she phrased the words differently maybe it would have come across differently. But the way it was said, said to me that she judged that girl. And I don't currently BF at all...
WTF? Just because I don't personally NIP, does NOT mean I judge anyone who does. Those are some long conclusions you are jumping to.
She would leave her whole boob out. Her son was crawling around, sometimes he would stop by and eat. I saw it all (well, not really because I kept looking away, but how are you supposed to maintain a conversation with someone like that?).
Ok, that is something we'd see on National Geographic. I'd be afraid of getting sprayed (kidding...sort of).
I think it went off-topic b/c the OP was judged/criticized for having a different opinion than a few others on this post.
Maybe because it sounded like SHE was judging/criticizing those who do NIP. I know she said she didn't, but we all know her stance on NIP. She's said it before quite a few times - I recall a post where she mentioned not even BFing in Nordstroms nursing mom corner (or whatever that is). So we all know it's not her thing. Had she phrased the words differently maybe it would have come across differently. But the way it was said, said to me that she judged that girl. And I don't currently BF at all...
WTF? Just because I don't personally NIP, does NOT mean I judge anyone who does. Those are some long conclusions you are jumping to.
I'm basing that on the fact that some of the pps who do NIP felt judged. And based on your previous comments, I can see them feeling that way. You're not a fan of it and you've made that clear in the past. When I read the OP - adding in previous comments, that's what I read. If I were the only person who felt this way, you sure wouldn't have so many responses.
Honestly at the beginning I was really modest. I had issues with nursing N in front of my dad in the hospital and at my own home. I had to go into the other room. My dad and stepmother were shocked that I went into the other room ~ they are hippies. They now expect me to nurse him these days in front of them and are hurt if I go inot the other room.
I often nurse in my car in the back seat. i won't do it in a more public place - I just don't feel comfortable.
The cover never worked for us either and I refused to be stuck in my house 24/7 out of shame. He still nurses multiple times a day! I can't even imagine how stir crazy I would have gone had I never felt comfortable nursing in public. I do it all the time. My playgroup mom's an I are very free about it as well.
this makes me almost cry. I do feel as though I am shut in. N refuses a bottle unless he's been crying and starving and finally he takes a bottle and then he just eats a little and passes out from sheer exhaustion. I usually plan my day around his schedule. I don't get to do a lot of things that I want to because of him. I feel though that this is the work I want to do. I WANT him to feel comfortable when eating and if I'm all worried about people staring at me and some crappy blanket falling off me then he's not going to eat well. I would rather be at home and nursing him in comfort, thus I'm pretty home bound.
The cover never worked for us either and I refused to be stuck in my house 24/7 out of shame. He still nurses multiple times a day! I can't even imagine how stir crazy I would have gone had I never felt comfortable nursing in public. I do it all the time. My playgroup mom's an I are very free about it as well.
this makes me almost cry. I do feel as though I am shut in. N refuses a bottle unless he's been crying and starving and finally he takes a bottle and then he just eats a little and passes out from sheer exhaustion. I usually plan my day around his schedule. I don't get to do a lot of things that I want to because of him. I feel though that this is the work I want to do. I WANT him to feel comfortable when eating and if I'm all worried about people staring at me and some crappy blanket falling off me then he's not going to eat well. I would rather be at home and nursing him in comfort, thus I'm pretty home bound.
nordstrom at the galleria has a very nice mothers room on the 3rd floor. also, the main mall bathrooms on the 2nd floor by nordstrom have nursing stalls with a chair, footstool and full door. the galleria was the 1st place i went with T when he was a baby b/c i knew i had these areas dedicated to me being able to nurse my baby. even target a dressing room works great. if you can change your clothes in one, you can nurse in one! get out of the house or you'll make yourself nuts!
The cover never worked for us either and I refused to be stuck in my house 24/7 out of shame. He still nurses multiple times a day! I can't even imagine how stir crazy I would have gone had I never felt comfortable nursing in public. I do it all the time. My playgroup mom's an I are very free about it as well.
this makes me almost cry. I do feel as though I am shut in. N refuses a bottle unless he's been crying and starving and finally he takes a bottle and then he just eats a little and passes out from sheer exhaustion. I usually plan my day around his schedule. I don't get to do a lot of things that I want to because of him. I feel though that this is the work I want to do. I WANT him to feel comfortable when eating and if I'm all worried about people staring at me and some crappy blanket falling off me then he's not going to eat well. I would rather be at home and nursing him in comfort, thus I'm pretty home bound.
nordstrom at the galleria has a very nice mothers room on the 3rd floor. also, the main mall bathrooms on the 2nd floor by nordstrom have nursing stalls with a chair, footstool and full door. the galleria was the 1st place i went with T when he was a baby b/c i knew i had these areas dedicated to me being able to nurse my baby. even target a dressing room works great. if you can change your clothes in one, you can nurse in one! get out of the house or you'll make yourself nuts!
Yes, hang in there - it gets easier! Most department stores have a place to go. I also used a cover that was like a poncho, wouldn't slip or fall. As you and baby both get better at nursing it's easier. You can focus more on getting comfortable and angled to be less obvious. The more comfortable you are, the less noticable you are. After a few months we ditched the cover and I nursed everywhere - and no one noticed. I could be in a restaurant booth nursing and eating and no one at the table even had a clue. Also - think layers A light sweater or jacket also helps shield and keep you at ease.
i nurse anywhere and everywhere. it's how i feed my baby and i don't feel like i need to give a bottle just because that is how some other people feed theirs.
i will use a blanket if there are older people or men who i don't know well. i always wear a nursing tank with a shirt over it, though, so while it's obvious what i am doing, there is no bare boob showing. i definitely nurse at playgroup and so do a lot of other women. those who are comfortable whip it out, while some use hooter hiders or blankets. i am not really comfortable with a blanket over me- it makes it hard for me to nurse and i can never get the baby latched right when i am worried abotu the blanket.
i was nursing mathis at the russo's lunch a couple weeks ago, so this post could very well even be directed at me.
I was sitting right by you at Russo's as well as the birthday party. I was bothered none.
I did not BF so I don't have a stance on the OP. However, I am not bothered by NIP unless there is complete over exposure. I don't need the entire boob just hanging out for all to see. If I were to ever BF, I would be able to NIP but I would be covered at all times and it would only be if and when the baby wouldn't take a bottle of BM.
Okay, I'll come out of lurking and give my 2 cents. With DD, I was fortunate enough that she wouldn't try to pull / kick the hooter hider away. When I purchased that thing, it was like I was free. I have huge boobs (they are 32/34 Js when nursing) and am super self-conscious about them (they are DDs when I'm not nursing and I fully intend to get them reduced to a B after I'm done having children). I could care less if anyone else shows theirs, but I don't want to show mine.
That being said...I sure hope DS (due in October) will also cooperate with the hooter hider. If he doesn't, I don't know what I'll do. Being discrete is great...and I would sure as heck try. But a 32/34 J doesn't hide easily. And I know it's going to be even harder on me knowing that people will probably be judging me if I can't hide them well.
But a 32/34 J doesn't hide easily. And I know it's going to be even harder on me knowing that people will probably be judging me if I can't hide them well.
really, sometimes i think the nest/bump is a total alternate reality. also, people like to be controversial. so with that said, i can tell you that i BF #1 for 17 mos and now am 4 mos in with #2. as i have discussed here, i am very open about NIP. i would say of the 100s of times i have done it, i have only gotten 3 or 4 negative comments and, without getting in to it, i can tell you in those cases i definitely had to consider the source. just today, i was nursing at a hamburger restaurant and 2 people complimented me and said how sweet and special it is to be able to nurse a baby.
i am posting this only in hopes that you know most people really are supportive of nursing moms. even the OP was more about the way she nursed, not the fact that she did so (even though the details weren't posted until the pot was stirred). i am a 36FF so i know what you mean about the boobs being hard to hide (and a D when not nursing). that's why i like nursing tanks- the nipple just sticks out and my boob and belly are covered.
good luck and i hope you decide to post more now that you were forced out of lurking ;P
But a 32/34 J doesn't hide easily. And I know it's going to be even harder on me knowing that people will probably be judging me if I can't hide them well.
really, sometimes i think the nest/bump is a total alternate reality. also, people like to be controversial. so with that said, i can tell you that i BF #1 for 17 mos and now am 4 mos in with #2. as i have discussed here, i am very open about NIP. i would say of the 100s of times i have done it, i have only gotten 3 or 4 negative comments and, without getting in to it, i can tell you in those cases i definitely had to consider the source. just today, i was nursing at a hamburger restaurant and 2 people complimented me and said how sweet and special it is to be able to nurse a baby.
i am posting this only in hopes that you know most people really are supportive of nursing moms. even the OP was more about the way she nursed, not the fact that she did so (even though the details weren't posted until the pot was stirred). i am a 36FF so i know what you mean about the boobs being hard to hide (and a D when not nursing). that's why i like nursing tanks- the nipple just sticks out and my boob and belly are covered.
good luck and i hope you decide to post more now that you were forced out of lurking ;P
I don't think you should feel embarrassed about BFing in public or feel like you're being judged. I don't think anyone here said they "judge" anyone else for BFing in public. (unless i missed something) I think people are just saying they're uncomfortable when someone is flapping a boob around in public and not being discreet or considerate about the comfort level of others. I wouldn't worry too much. And welcome to the boards!!
But a 32/34 J doesn't hide easily. And I know it's going to be even harder on me knowing that people will probably be judging me if I can't hide them well.
really, sometimes i think the nest/bump is a total alternate reality. also, people like to be controversial. so with that said, i can tell you that i BF #1 for 17 mos and now am 4 mos in with #2. as i have discussed here, i am very open about NIP. i would say of the 100s of times i have done it, i have only gotten 3 or 4 negative comments and, without getting in to it, i can tell you in those cases i definitely had to consider the source. just today, i was nursing at a hamburger restaurant and 2 people complimented me and said how sweet and special it is to be able to nurse a baby.
i am posting this only in hopes that you know most people really are supportive of nursing moms. even the OP was more about the way she nursed, not the fact that she did so (even though the details weren't posted until the pot was stirred). i am a 36FF so i know what you mean about the boobs being hard to hide (and a D when not nursing). that's why i like nursing tanks- the nipple just sticks out and my boob and belly are covered.
good luck and i hope you decide to post more now that you were forced out of lurking ;P
I don't think you should feel embarrassed about BFing in public or feel like you're being judged. I don't think anyone here said they "judge" anyone else for BFing in public. (unless i missed something) I think people are just saying they're uncomfortable when someone is flapping a boob around in public and not being discreet or considerate about the comfort level of others. I wouldn't worry too much. And welcome to the boards!!
Thanks ladies! I didn't mean people on this board were judging. I just meant people in general. Now I have a new shopping project! I'm going to try to find those nursing tanks you ladies were talking about. I have a couple, but I don't think they "hold" me well.
Re: BFing in public
So is pooping
(relax everyone, I am teasing about that one!)
I guess it's a double standard that society is creating. Society pushes breastfeeding (there is a billboard on 610 now) but we're supposed to only do it at home or in the car...behind closed doors? That's what bothers me. Don't shove it down my throat, but then tell me I have to be private about it. We all shower (or we're supposed to) but that's nothing new! We've been showering for AGES. The whole BFing thing has made a comeback (from when we were babies) but society obviously isn't ready for us to do it in the open. It just seems...like I said, a double standard.
As for me - I don't care if someone else feels comfortable enough to NIP without a cover. I personally don't, so I'll use a cover but that's just me. And my opinion could change once I'm doing it.
showering and feeding my baby are not comparable.
FYI- when i have NIP no one has ever seen my full boob if i can help it. it sounds like there are only 2 options- NIP with a blanket so no one can see, or NIP w/out one and everyone sees your boob full on. you can be discreat without covering up your baby.
i look at it like gay marriage. i will call gay marriages civil unions if my marriage by a judge is also a civil union. i will promise to always use a cover when i NIP if people who bottle feed also cover their babies while they feed.
Well said. I do understand there are different comfort levels, but I think we all need to remember that this is about babies eating, not about breasts showing. I guess whether someone finds it offensive depends on which aspect they chose to focus on. We would not be doing it if it weren't for a baby that needed to eat. It just happens to be that their food comes out of a woman's breast. Just because our society associates breasts with unclean thoughts does not make a baby eating a dirty thing. I actually find a woman nursing her baby a beautiful thing. But that's just me.
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Haha. Breasts and feeding in their own right is not what I said though. I said I thought nursing is a beautiful thing, and I believe that regardless of where or how it's done. I don't walk around topless because I don't need to do that in order to feed my child. Nor do I need to shower in public to feed him. That's just me though.
And you don't need to flash your breasts in order to feed him either, that is what this lady was doing.
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That's funny!
It reminds me of that post about wearing bras. I wish I could find it. Those people expose themselves, wonder if they have issues in seeing someone NIP?
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Ha - I thought about the same thing. I would be uncomfortable NIP without a cover, but I also wouldn't go bra-less in public.
How is not wearing a bra the same as breastfeeding in public? Unless someone is braless AND shirtless in public, there is not a comparison. I know plenty of women with modest sized boobs that do not wear bras bc they are not necessary. The purpose of a bra is to assist a woman if she has saggy/large boobs that move alot when she walks (from what I understand of a bra) If your boobs don't sag/move alot etc then there is no need for a bra....Even if someone with large boobs didn't wear a bra, there is no exposure unless they are not covering their boobs. I am very confused.
How does not wearing a bra expose yourself? Unless I am also not wearing a shirt, I am not exposed.
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If someone is bra-less in a shirt that is covering everything that's one thing but most people I see that go bra-less is due to a lower cut top, those maxi dresses, etc. and I tend to think I see more boob that way then when people bf. Of course this doesn't count for everyone but the majority of what I see. Seeing boobs that I fear are going to fall out of someone's dress due to nothing holding them in makes me uncomfortable.
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to me it's kind of like being offended by a speedo... or "marble bag"... it leaves nothing to the imagination and it's almost as going totally exposed. IE wearing no bra in public...
and usually when it's noticed is when the person wearing none shouldn't be. Just guessing though.
now a marble bag doesn't offend me, but I do often laugh at the person wearing it.
But, I as I said before... NIP doesn't bother me.
Speedos don't bother me.
People going braless doesn't bother me.
NIP doesn't bother me, as long as there is some modicum of discretion. When there is full on boob flashing, I get uncomfortable.
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Ok, let me clarify. Are you seeing the WHOLE thing? Or just the actual boob and baby?
Cause I've seen V bf quite a bit (no cover) and I've seen about as much of her boob as I have of someone who dares to wear a lowcut dress and no bra.
Now, some of the pps mention taking the bra off and then getting the baby situated, so I could see getting a full view. But I guess I'm only comparing my experience to V and Jess and I've never seen either of their full on boob.
I agree 100%.
I don't believe anyone here is saying women SHOULDN'T BF in public, I think we are all (the dissenters) saying that it should be done discreetly. Just because one is comfortable with completely exposing oneself to others, doesn't mean others want to be exposed. I just don't see why it can't be done discreetly. I try to teach my child not to expose herself/her panties/etc in public., so isn't seeing this a bit counter-productive to that message. What's wrong with just a little modesty? (and I mean OUT IN PUBLIC, not among friends/family).
what's funny is that even those that are pro feeders aren't saying that they shouldn't be discreet. and the OP said would you ever do it.
it's all kind of gone off topic.
I agree with Kreeper. I have definitely seen more of my friend's boobs in her maxi dresses (the one from the party at my house) than I have seen of V's or BPaullo's (the only example I can think of right now) boobs and both have nursed around me numerous times.
Granted, I think if someone whipped it out and I saw full on National Geographic, leaking boobs, that would be different and probably awkward (especially if there was sprayage) than just juggling the kid to get them latched on.
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I think it went off-topic b/c the OP was judged/criticized for having a different opinion than a few others on this post.
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I agree 100% with this. Nowhere in here have I read that anyone thinks a woman should retreat to her car or never leave her house if she wants to BF....I think everyone who dissents with full-on NIP has said that they don't have a problem with it if it is done discreetly. I have seen SEVERAL friends/acquiantances BF with hooter-hiders etc and have never even batted an eye....but it is when a boob is right in front of me that makes me uncomfortable. And I agree again with Callmekel, it is different if it is my sister or a close friend of mine and we're in the comforts of our homes....but if I am at lunch and someone is at the booth next to me bare breasted, I get uncomfortable. It has nothing to do with my feelings on BFing as a whole, as I support it and admire women who do it, but I don't like seeing stranger's boobs.
Just this weekend, a very beautiful friend of mine wore a gorgeous strapless black party dress and she didn't have a bra on. I couldn't even tell until she told me a little while ago while we were discussing this post. She looked smashing and I never even once thought of her breasts....there was definitely no exposure to them either...
Speedos skeeve me out. Period.
Maybe because it sounded like SHE was judging/criticizing those who do NIP. I know she said she didn't, but we all know her stance on NIP. She's said it before quite a few times - I recall a post where she mentioned not even BFing in Nordstroms nursing mom corner (or whatever that is). So we all know it's not her thing. Had she phrased the words differently maybe it would have come across differently. But the way it was said, said to me that she judged that girl. And I don't currently BF at all...
Ok. I get that. I'm not all about swinging boobs. But NIP without a cover...like I said, I've seen less of V's boob than I have of a girl in the mall wearing a maxi dress.
WTF? Just because I don't personally NIP, does NOT mean I judge anyone who does. Those are some long conclusions you are jumping to.
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Ok, that is something we'd see on National Geographic. I'd be afraid of getting sprayed (kidding...sort of).
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I'm basing that on the fact that some of the pps who do NIP felt judged. And based on your previous comments, I can see them feeling that way. You're not a fan of it and you've made that clear in the past. When I read the OP - adding in previous comments, that's what I read. If I were the only person who felt this way, you sure wouldn't have so many responses.
Honestly at the beginning I was really modest. I had issues with nursing N in front of my dad in the hospital and at my own home. I had to go into the other room. My dad and stepmother were shocked that I went into the other room ~ they are hippies. They now expect me to nurse him these days in front of them and are hurt if I go inot the other room.
I often nurse in my car in the back seat. i won't do it in a more public place - I just don't feel comfortable.
this makes me almost cry. I do feel as though I am shut in. N refuses a bottle unless he's been crying and starving and finally he takes a bottle and then he just eats a little and passes out from sheer exhaustion. I usually plan my day around his schedule. I don't get to do a lot of things that I want to because of him. I feel though that this is the work I want to do. I WANT him to feel comfortable when eating and if I'm all worried about people staring at me and some crappy blanket falling off me then he's not going to eat well. I would rather be at home and nursing him in comfort, thus I'm pretty home bound.
nordstrom at the galleria has a very nice mothers room on the 3rd floor. also, the main mall bathrooms on the 2nd floor by nordstrom have nursing stalls with a chair, footstool and full door. the galleria was the 1st place i went with T when he was a baby b/c i knew i had these areas dedicated to me being able to nurse my baby. even target a dressing room works great. if you can change your clothes in one, you can nurse in one! get out of the house or you'll make yourself nuts!
Yes, hang in there - it gets easier! Most department stores have a place to go. I also used a cover that was like a poncho, wouldn't slip or fall. As you and baby both get better at nursing it's easier. You can focus more on getting comfortable and angled to be less obvious. The more comfortable you are, the less noticable you are. After a few months we ditched the cover and I nursed everywhere - and no one noticed. I could be in a restaurant booth nursing and eating and no one at the table even had a clue. Also - think layers
A light sweater or jacket also helps shield and keep you at ease.
I was sitting right by you at Russo's as well as the birthday party. I was bothered none.
I did not BF so I don't have a stance on the OP. However, I am not bothered by NIP unless there is complete over exposure. I don't need the entire boob just hanging out for all to see. If I were to ever BF, I would be able to NIP but I would be covered at all times and it would only be if and when the baby wouldn't take a bottle of BM.
Okay, I'll come out of lurking and give my 2 cents. With DD, I was fortunate enough that she wouldn't try to pull / kick the hooter hider away. When I purchased that thing, it was like I was free. I have huge boobs (they are 32/34 Js when nursing) and am super self-conscious about them (they are DDs when I'm not nursing and I fully intend to get them reduced to a B after I'm done having children). I could care less if anyone else shows theirs, but I don't want to show mine.
That being said...I sure hope DS (due in October) will also cooperate with the hooter hider. If he doesn't, I don't know what I'll do. Being discrete is great...and I would sure as heck try. But a 32/34 J doesn't hide easily. And I know it's going to be even harder on me knowing that people will probably be judging me if I can't hide them well.
really, sometimes i think the nest/bump is a total alternate reality. also, people like to be controversial. so with that said, i can tell you that i BF #1 for 17 mos and now am 4 mos in with #2. as i have discussed here, i am very open about NIP. i would say of the 100s of times i have done it, i have only gotten 3 or 4 negative comments and, without getting in to it, i can tell you in those cases i definitely had to consider the source. just today, i was nursing at a hamburger restaurant and 2 people complimented me and said how sweet and special it is to be able to nurse a baby.
i am posting this only in hopes that you know most people really are supportive of nursing moms. even the OP was more about the way she nursed, not the fact that she did so (even though the details weren't posted until the pot was stirred). i am a 36FF so i know what you mean about the boobs being hard to hide (and a D when not nursing). that's why i like nursing tanks- the nipple just sticks out and my boob and belly are covered.
good luck and i hope you decide to post more now that you were forced out of lurking ;P
I don't think you should feel embarrassed about BFing in public or feel like you're being judged. I don't think anyone here said they "judge" anyone else for BFing in public. (unless i missed something) I think people are just saying they're uncomfortable when someone is flapping a boob around in public and not being discreet or considerate about the comfort level of others. I wouldn't worry too much. And welcome to the boards!!
Thanks ladies! I didn't mean people on this board were judging. I just meant people in general. Now I have a new shopping project! I'm going to try to find those nursing tanks you ladies were talking about. I have a couple, but I don't think they "hold" me well.