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my opinion on felons and jobs - - personal experience included

Now, I know what Michael Vick did was sick and wrong and everyone has opinions on whether or not he should work again the NFL.  Just thought I'd put a personal face on this:

My dad is a convicted felon for stealing money from his job.  He served a jail sentence and did community service, paid back everything he took.  He is a lawyer and a pastor.  He screwed up big time and has acknowledged this.  He has made complete restitution and has been through a lengthy restoration program, including a 12 step program to combat his gambling addiction. (His reason for stealing in the first place.)

My point is that people screw up and make mistakes.  It took him over 5 years to find someone who would even consider hiring him.  I understand that's the natural consequences of his actions, but it still sucks that people aren't willing to give someone a second chance.  5 years of no income, foreclosed house and constant job hunting.  Convicted felons are not all the scum of the earth who don't deserve some grace. (Assuming they've begun to make right choices, accountability, etc.)   My dad is a normal suburban pastor who made really bad choices.  This whole thing has been eye-opening for me and gives me better understanding for those who have been incarcerated.

I have no opinion about Michael Vick.  Just thought I'd give ya'll something else to chew on.

Re: my opinion on felons and jobs - - personal experience included

  • I think convicted felons deserve a second chance. But not all felonies are the same. What Michael Vick did is disgusting and after watching those animals die and not caring, I wonder if he's really grown a heart since then. Also, getting a normal job and playing for the NFL are two very different things.
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  • I agree.  There are different degrees of "wrong" for lack of a better word.  It's hard to tell whether or not Michael Vick has actually had a change of heart.  And yes--wouldn't be nice if we could all get our second chances in the NFL making millions?
  • When analyzing something like that, I definitely look at what type of crime it was, especially whether it was violent or non violent. Not all felonies are created equal. What Michael Vick did was horrible, but I am sort of surprised that so many people are up in arms about it.

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    I think convicted felons deserve a second chance. But not all felonies are the same. What Michael Vick did is disgusting and after watching those animals die and not caring, I wonder if he's really grown a heart since then. Also, getting a normal job and playing for the NFL are two very different things.

    This I just don't get how hard THIS is to understand. 

    As I stated in one of my comments in FFFC my COUSIN is a convicted felon and I don't wish he ill will.  She deserves a second chance (I guess) she also was living on welfare.  

    ALL CRIMES ARE NOT EQUAL in my opinion.  How can you compare embezzlement to killing and mistreating animals? 

    Of course Felons deserve to get a job again.  But lets say this, if my DH got a DUI which isn't a felony he would more than likely lose his job and never be able to be a cop again or DRIVE a vehicle for a living (He was a truck driver before).  Sure people make mistakes, but I am pretty sure they were aware they were doing something wrong.  SO I don't feel sorry for them.

  • Calm down.  I'm not comparing stealing to killing dogs.  I'm just trying to get people to understand that not all felons should be lumped together.  Some actually do turn their lives around.  I'm not defending Michael Vick and I'm pretty sure my op didn't either.
  • My brother is a convicted felon. He's also a moron who did something really stupid and got caught. Does this mean he should never be hired again? No. He isn't a violent offender, and he has done his time. But once anyone hears "felon," it's over. No one will give him a second look.

     I love how many people are saying "Oh well then in THAT case, I agree that felons should be treated xyz." There's no way to tell one felon apart on a job application. And the blanket statements I've seen today prove that this is the common mentality.

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    My brother is a convicted felon. He's also a moron who did something really stupid and got caught. Does this mean he should never be hired again? No. He isn't a violent offender, and he has done his time. But once anyone hears "felon," it's over. No one will give him a second look.

     I love how many people are saying "Oh well then in THAT case, I agree that felons should be treated xyz." There's no way to tell one felon apart on a job application. And the blanket statements I've seen today prove that this is the common mentality.

    Thank you.  This is my point, especially the bold part.  I'm glad someone else understands what the heck I was trying to say.  My dad screwed up, broke the law and lost his law license and ordination in the process.  Finding a job is next to impossible and yes--most places see felon on the app and he's automatically out, regardless of qualifications or experience. 

  • I agree whole heartedly that felons should be given a 2nd chance.  I also think that there should be different degrees of felonies.  If you are against giving felons a 2nd chance think about it this way - if they aren't able to get a job, what do you think they are going to do to make ends meet???  I 100% think that the only way to stop repeat offenders is by education, rehabilitation, and then giving them a 2nd chance.  If they screw up again then they probably don't deserve a 3rd chance.
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