This was the first time I have ever watched the show "new" (as in not a rerun when there was nothing else on). I found it incredibly depressing. Those poor kids. I just don't understand why they would keep filming after a divorce!!??!?!? For the love of all that is holy and good, pull the plug and concentrate on providing a sense of normalcy for your children. Divorce is traumatic enough on children without having in play out in front of the world.
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It seems to me that Jon is completely checked out of the marriage. Kate talks about being sad, being scared to do it 'alone', being determined to 'survive', and Jon talks about being excited to 'start over'.
I know she is usually made out to be the bad one, and after watching an episode where she goes crazy over him not using a coupon i can understand why, but i don't think he should be getting off scott free. He made a choice to shut down, check out, move out of his house.
I firmly believe that most people can work through issues...any issues...if they can get back to what they once had, learn to communicate through the bad, and commit...i just don't think he wants to commit. Those kids are so cute...i fear what they will see when they learn how to google...
TTC since 2008
dx MFI March 2009, low motility and low morph
dx Stage I/II endometriosis September 2009.
Multiple failed clomid, injecitble and IUI cycles
IVF #1 Janaury 2011: 28 retrieved, 22 fert normally
5dt of two beautiful blasts (6 frozen)
BFP 2/10/2011 (holy cow!!!)
1st u/s 2/24: 2 gestational sacs, it's twins! Only 1 heartbeat, Baby A, 110 BPM
2nd u/s 2/28: 2 heartbeats! It's twins!
3rd u/s 3/7: Lost Baby B :-( Baby A looking good.
We will always love you Baby B.
It seems to me that Jon is completely checked out of the marriage. Kate talks about being sad, being scared to do it 'alone', being determined to 'survive', and Jon talks about being excited to 'start over'.
I know she is usually made out to be the bad one, and after watching an episode where she goes crazy over him not using a coupon i can understand why, but i don't think he should be getting off scott free. He made a choice to shut down, check out, move out of his house.
I firmly believe that most people can work through issues...any issues...if they can get back to what they once had, learn to communicate through the bad, and commit...i just don't think he wants to commit. Those kids are so cute...i fear what they will see when they learn how to google...
I agree with this.
They are both at fault for sure, but damn, he sure seems completely checked out.
And if they both put their kids first, like they kept saying, they would have turned off the cameras when the problems began.
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
Agree. I am kind of tired of hearing 'we will do what is best for our kids, our kids come first, etc.'. The best thing you can do for your kids is LOVE YOUR SPOUSE. They've 'worked on it' for 6 months? 6 months is not an incredibly long amount of time.
Shut the cameras off, go to counseling, work on it, work on it, work on it, and then make the decision.
Easy for me to say i guess, just my $0.02. We all make mistakes, but we all have a chance to make it right too.
TTC since 2008
dx MFI March 2009, low motility and low morph
dx Stage I/II endometriosis September 2009.
Multiple failed clomid, injecitble and IUI cycles
IVF #1 Janaury 2011: 28 retrieved, 22 fert normally
5dt of two beautiful blasts (6 frozen)
BFP 2/10/2011 (holy cow!!!)
1st u/s 2/24: 2 gestational sacs, it's twins! Only 1 heartbeat, Baby A, 110 BPM
2nd u/s 2/28: 2 heartbeats! It's twins!
3rd u/s 3/7: Lost Baby B :-( Baby A looking good.
We will always love you Baby B.
I also watched it. I felt really sad for them.....I honestly thought they would try and work it out or at least be separated for a while and get back together. I just felt really sad.
Did anyone notice Kate's comment "the show must go on"? I was thinking, umm, no it doesn't. They really should work on their marriage. You have to put your relationship with your spouse first to be able to give your children what they need.
I feel so bad for those kids. Although, during the show they seem to be handling it all ok. I'm sure they edited out a lot, and we don't know how much the kids know. But they seemed to at least be doing the right thing in regards to divorcing because they obviously weren't happy. I'm not so sure I agree about the show going on. I can only hope that they make it work ( like they did in that brunch scene at the end) and can be a good example to everyone in the world going through a divorce, to show that it can be done, and there are ways to be apart, yet together for your kids. Maybe it'll make some dead beat dads realize you can be civil with your ex for you kids.
I also liked how they refused to use the word "Divorce" It is a nasty word, and I think it leaves a little hope that while they will be legally seperated, they are going to be civil and somewhat friendly for the kids.
M: 31 DH: 34
Dx: PCOS, Endo, Uterine Septum
Ovarian Wedge Resection - May 2009
BFP #1 - October 2009 = DS
BFP #2 - June 2011 = DD (Total Surprise!)
Tree nut allergy in DS diagnosed 4/2012. Currently working with EI for SPD and possible ASD.
There's no legal separation in PA, so I don't know that the future looks so good for them. I do think they are better off apart (for themselves) but I feel so awful for those kids.
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Agree. I am kind of tired of hearing 'we will do what is best for our kids, our kids come first, etc.'. The best thing you can do for your kids is LOVE YOUR SPOUSE. They've 'worked on it' for 6 months? 6 months is not an incredibly long amount of time.
Shut the cameras off, go to counseling, work on it, work on it, work on it, and then make the decision.
Easy for me to say i guess, just my $0.02. We all make mistakes, but we all have a chance to make it right too.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night. The best thing you can do for your kids is to love your spouse and stay together!
Baby Beau TTC #1 for 5 years - Many years, many tears
3 Clomid IUIs all BFN
IVF#1 w/ ICSI = BFP!!!!
Beta #1 - 157 11dp3dt, Beta #2 - 340 13dp3dt
FET for #2 9/1/11 Beta #1 9dp5dt - 153!!! Beta #2 11dp5dt - 426!!!
Psalm 113:9 He settles the barren woman in her home
as a happy mother of children. Praise the LORD.
It seems to me that Jon is completely checked out of the marriage. Kate talks about being sad, being scared to do it 'alone', being determined to 'survive', and Jon talks about being excited to 'start over'.
I know she is usually made out to be the bad one, and after watching an episode where she goes crazy over him not using a coupon i can understand why, but i don't think he should be getting off scott free. He made a choice to shut down, check out, move out of his house.
I firmly believe that most people can work through issues...any issues...if they can get back to what they once had, learn to communicate through the bad, and commit...i just don't think he wants to commit. Those kids are so cute...i fear what they will see when they learn how to google...
I agree with this.
They are both at fault for sure, but damn, he sure seems completely checked out.
And if they both put their kids first, like they kept saying, they would have turned off the cameras when the problems began.
Agree with the both of you. Though let me just say that Jon lately has been irking me. He is a great example of men who marry young and later in life want to make up for their "lost youth". They begin to feel tied down and feel as if they missed out on life. Who made that choice though? JMHO Also take note of Jon lately. Buys a sports car, gets new motorcycle, has both ears pierced now, hanging out at bars, etc. Plus he really pushed a button on the American Chopper show saying, "since I am always with my lady friends" and said it with a stupid smirk on his face.
Really is sad. I also feel Jon has shut down and does not even want to work on his marriage. Kate does seem sad but it trying not to go there. I think she knows if she allows herself to get sad she will prob. get depressed.
Last night's show was so depressing. I used to enjoy watching their show because it was nice to see a family who dealt with infertility, but after last night I don't know what is going to happen. I agree with the previous posts about Jon totally checking out of the marriage. Kate made a comment that she has tried to talk to him and to communicate but he doesn't want to. It seems to me that he didn't even try. For someone to say that they are "excited" for the future is just sad. It seems to me that he had a mid-life crisis at 32.
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I watched and cried throughout the whole last half hr. It's just so sad, I get sad whenever I hear about people getting divorced, but with 8 children involved it's even worse.
This whole time I was blaming her for being controlling and for the way she treated him, but after watching last night I am not sure who to blame. I give him mad props for getting a back bone and standing up to her, but it's like he has checked out and doesn't even really want to work it out. They did say that this is something that has been coming for awhile so maybe they were trying to work it out with no success. I do think that he was young when he got married, and young to get have these children and now he is going through a mid life crisis, yes a little early, but whats with the earrings, and the motorcycle? I think he realized this is not the life he wants, I don't doubt that he loves those kids but I think he wants to ba a p/t dad. Kate said it herself, she doesn't think he knows what he wants or what he doing. I hope he doesn't wake up one day and realize what he has done to his family and regret it. She is not innocent either though, she has gone very hollywood and is all about promoting her books. I just felt for her last night cause no one deserves to have their hearts broken.
I think its sad because this is one of my biggest fears. Do I love my Dh? Yes with all my heart! Has IF put a strain on our relationship? Sure has! It was only 8yrs ago that they sat in the same place we are now, they loved each other, they loved each other to go through all we have to have those children. Did they think they would get 6, no way who does! And now here it is 8yrs later and they can't even share the same breathing space. It's sooo sad. Having mutiples will put a strain on your marriage as is,but they had two sets only 2yrs apart, add to that any strain they might have had before from dealing with IF, and then were having their lives filmed, this is a recipe for divorce.
I have been a fan of the show since the begining and have been following all the drama, but it truly makes me sad. I am sad for all of them. I hope they can find peace.
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~12/05 * 7/06 * 12/06 * 4/07 * 10/08~
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After 4yrs, 5 IUI's, 2 IVF's, 2 FET's, PGD, and 5 losses our little miracle is finally here!
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Upcoming Races
Gobble Wobble 5K 11/24/11 - Abington, PA 29:40
Superbowl 10K 02/05/12 - Allentown, PA 54:28 PR!!!!
Broad Street 10 Mile Run 05/06/12 - Philadelphia, PA 1:30:44
Rock and Roll Half Marathon 09/16/12 - Philadelphia, PA
Philadelphia (Half?!?) Marathon 11/18/12 - Philadelphia, PA
It seems to me that Jon is completely checked out of the marriage. Kate talks about being sad, being scared to do it 'alone', being determined to 'survive', and Jon talks about being excited to 'start over'.
I know she is usually made out to be the bad one, and after watching an episode where she goes crazy over him not using a coupon i can understand why, but i don't think he should be getting off scott free. He made a choice to shut down, check out, move out of his house.
I firmly believe that most people can work through issues...any issues...if they can get back to what they once had, learn to communicate through the bad, and commit...i just don't think he wants to commit. Those kids are so cute...i fear what they will see when they learn how to google...
dx MFI March 2009, low motility and low morph
dx Stage I/II endometriosis September 2009.
Multiple failed clomid, injecitble and IUI cycles
IVF #1 Janaury 2011: 28 retrieved, 22 fert normally
5dt of two beautiful blasts (6 frozen)
BFP 2/10/2011 (holy cow!!!)
1st u/s 2/24: 2 gestational sacs, it's twins! Only 1 heartbeat, Baby A, 110 BPM
2nd u/s 2/28: 2 heartbeats! It's twins!
3rd u/s 3/7: Lost Baby B :-( Baby A looking good.
We will always love you Baby B.
I agree with this.
They are both at fault for sure, but damn, he sure seems completely checked out.
And if they both put their kids first, like they kept saying, they would have turned off the cameras when the problems began.
After 2 rounds of IVF & 2 rounds of FET, we were blessed with identical twin girls!
Agree. I am kind of tired of hearing 'we will do what is best for our kids, our kids come first, etc.'. The best thing you can do for your kids is LOVE YOUR SPOUSE. They've 'worked on it' for 6 months? 6 months is not an incredibly long amount of time.
Shut the cameras off, go to counseling, work on it, work on it, work on it, and then make the decision.
Easy for me to say i guess, just my $0.02. We all make mistakes, but we all have a chance to make it right too.
dx MFI March 2009, low motility and low morph
dx Stage I/II endometriosis September 2009.
Multiple failed clomid, injecitble and IUI cycles
IVF #1 Janaury 2011: 28 retrieved, 22 fert normally
5dt of two beautiful blasts (6 frozen)
BFP 2/10/2011 (holy cow!!!)
1st u/s 2/24: 2 gestational sacs, it's twins! Only 1 heartbeat, Baby A, 110 BPM
2nd u/s 2/28: 2 heartbeats! It's twins!
3rd u/s 3/7: Lost Baby B :-( Baby A looking good.
We will always love you Baby B.
I feel so bad for those kids. Although, during the show they seem to be handling it all ok. I'm sure they edited out a lot, and we don't know how much the kids know. But they seemed to at least be doing the right thing in regards to divorcing because they obviously weren't happy. I'm not so sure I agree about the show going on. I can only hope that they make it work ( like they did in that brunch scene at the end) and can be a good example to everyone in the world going through a divorce, to show that it can be done, and there are ways to be apart, yet together for your kids. Maybe it'll make some dead beat dads realize you can be civil with your ex for you kids.
I also liked how they refused to use the word "Divorce" It is a nasty word, and I think it leaves a little hope that while they will be legally seperated, they are going to be civil and somewhat friendly for the kids.
I was thinking the exact same thing last night. The best thing you can do for your kids is to love your spouse and stay together!
Baby Beau
TTC #1 for 5 years - Many years, many tears 3 Clomid IUIs all BFN IVF#1 w/ ICSI = BFP!!!! Beta #1 - 157 11dp3dt, Beta #2 - 340 13dp3dt
FET for #2 9/1/11 Beta #1 9dp5dt - 153!!! Beta #2 11dp5dt - 426!!!
Psalm 113:9 He settles the barren woman in her home as a happy mother of children. Praise the LORD.
Agree with the both of you. Though let me just say that Jon lately has been irking me. He is a great example of men who marry young and later in life want to make up for their "lost youth". They begin to feel tied down and feel as if they missed out on life. Who made that choice though? JMHO Also take note of Jon lately. Buys a sports car, gets new motorcycle, has both ears pierced now, hanging out at bars, etc. Plus he really pushed a button on the American Chopper show saying, "since I am always with my lady friends" and said it with a stupid smirk on his face.
I watched and cried throughout the whole last half hr. It's just so sad, I get sad whenever I hear about people getting divorced, but with 8 children involved it's even worse.
This whole time I was blaming her for being controlling and for the way she treated him, but after watching last night I am not sure who to blame. I give him mad props for getting a back bone and standing up to her, but it's like he has checked out and doesn't even really want to work it out. They did say that this is something that has been coming for awhile so maybe they were trying to work it out with no success. I do think that he was young when he got married, and young to get have these children and now he is going through a mid life crisis, yes a little early, but whats with the earrings, and the motorcycle? I think he realized this is not the life he wants, I don't doubt that he loves those kids but I think he wants to ba a p/t dad. Kate said it herself, she doesn't think he knows what he wants or what he doing. I hope he doesn't wake up one day and realize what he has done to his family and regret it. She is not innocent either though, she has gone very hollywood and is all about promoting her books. I just felt for her last night cause no one deserves to have their hearts broken.
I think its sad because this is one of my biggest fears. Do I love my Dh? Yes with all my heart! Has IF put a strain on our relationship? Sure has! It was only 8yrs ago that they sat in the same place we are now, they loved each other, they loved each other to go through all we have to have those children. Did they think they would get 6, no way who does! And now here it is 8yrs later and they can't even share the same breathing space. It's sooo sad. Having mutiples will put a strain on your marriage as is,but they had two sets only 2yrs apart, add to that any strain they might have had before from dealing with IF, and then were having their lives filmed, this is a recipe for divorce.
I have been a fan of the show since the begining and have been following all the drama, but it truly makes me sad. I am sad for all of them. I hope they can find peace.
~12/05 * 7/06 * 12/06 * 4/07 * 10/08~
"When the world says, "Give up" hope whispers, "Try one more time"
After 4yrs, 5 IUI's, 2 IVF's, 2 FET's, PGD, and 5 losses our little miracle is finally here!