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those who are waiting til 35lbs.
how big are your children now? you realize that could be a 4 year old, correct? *not much snark intended. i am honestly curious if they are going to be 35lbs at 2 or a bit over - or if you are planning on RFing as long as it takes to get to 35lbs*
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Re: those who are waiting til 35lbs.
Two angel babies 11/09 and 4/10
::falling over dead as I semi-agree with punkfiction::
I always wonder about that. Like, they make carseats that seat up to 90lbs. I was practically driving before I weighed more than that!
Ooooh good question. My DD is 20 lbs right now but I still think she will be smallish later. She wears 3-6 month size shoes but 12 month clothes, not sure if the shoes really matter...
But DS was also the same size at about the same age and is just now hitting the 40 lb mark and he is gonna be 6 in august.
My lil' peanut is about 15 pounds at almost 7 months...I may wait until she's over 2 if need be; I guess I'll have to re-evaluate when the time comes.
that is what we were laughing about when we checked out carseats. um, up to 80lbs. that is a freakin middle schooler.
DD is 30lbs now and has been FF for over a year... her legs were just far too long to be RFing anymore. She looked so cramped and would get pissed on rides any longer than across town. Once I turned her around, she does GREAT in the car and I am confident that she is plenty safe.
And yeah, I would have been in kindergarden too! Just like they say boosters should go to 65 lbs... um, I was 65 lbs in middle school.
ditto this.
I am usually the queen of the Judgy McJudgersons when it comes to this, but the longest we'll go is 2 before we turn him around. It'll probably be earlier though, depending on how I do with 2 kids rear facing.
Yeah, I was 90lbs in high school. That seems a little extreme to me as I had pretty good head control by then.
That's an excellent question! DD is super long (90th%) but is fairly thin at 16 lbs. (50th%). I look at her now and her feet are already smushed against the seat. I can't imagine waiting until she's 2 to have her face the front. I guess I'll re-evaluate at 1 year to see where she is height/weight wise, but I can't imagine having her RF if her knees are by her chin and she's absolutely miserable. If she's a few lbs. under the weight limit, we'll switch. I can't see her being 35 lbs. at 1 year, though.
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i just spit out my sweet tea. lol
I know, I think about these things cause I was a small child. I didn't break 100 pounds til I was a sophomore in college and got on the pill.
Anyhoo, I'm waiting for 25 lbs
LMAO no. she won't be 35lbs at a year. dd1 was about your dd's size and she is 25-27lbs at over 2 y/o.
we're going to wait until she's too uncomfortable rear-facing. She's 15 lbs at 7 months, but 29 inches long (90th %) so there's no way we could get to 35 lbs unless she just stops growing in height, but I do plan to leave her RF as long as possible.
That said, DH always laughs at this b/c he was only 4'10 and 85ish lbs until he was a sophomore in HS! He technically would have needed to be in a booster seat to drive - LOL!
Exactly!
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No no, the requirements by law are 20 lbs and 1 year old. But some carseats can handle a child up to 35 lbs rear facing and over a year old. I don't know if you got confused or typed wrong but don't worry about her being 35 lbs at a year old, she prob won't be lol!
I wonder if any studies have been done regarding the saftey of a child having their knees in their face from being 3 years old and rear facing still? Hmmm.
I just have images of broken legs and facial bones...
i agree. nothing is safe about a child having to scrunch his legs up into his chest.
rear facing until 35 lbs. Even if she's 4.
Technically, if it were possible (which it is not), even adults are safer rear facing than forward facing.
We have a 28.5 lb 14 month old. So I imagined she'd be out of it by 2 when i thought of 35 lbs.
2 is our limit. We're turning her at 2. There is a point at which the force of the impact on fully developed leg (age 3) bones could do serious damage to the spine. For us, that is a concern.
Up here we have very different guidelines than down there. Children need to be in a booster seat/carseat until 80 lbs. Or 9 years of age.
They had it at 80 lbs until people complained about their 13 year olds needing carseats.
Id love to see where you got that information.
rear facing until 35 lbs. Even if she's 4.
Technically, if it were possible (which it is not), even adults are safer rear facing than forward facing.
Seriously? Even if your child is eating thier shins, you are going to keep them rear facing?
You have no way of telling! Is your kid walking? Running? Eating ALL table food? My BFF has a son that was 19 lbs (which is what my DS is) at 6 months and he is 18 months now and only weighs 24lbs. So 5lbs in a YEAR! They really slow down when they get more active. EVEN my niece who is off the charts and will be 2 in August isn't NEAR 35lbs.
My other niece is 9 and weighs 70lbs...just another example.
LOL i am asking a carseat tech on another board im on (not on the nest). im waiting for her answer
DS'll get bumped to a highback booster (we're thinking the graco nautilus) when DC2 gets too large for the infant carrier and needs to be moved into the RF convertible. DS'll be 15 mo when DC2 arrives, and i figure he or she will be in the carrier for around 5 months or so, so that would put DS around 20 mos when we flip him for sure (esp since we can't fit to RF seats in DH's car). could be sooner depending on height limits, weight limits, my sanity, etc.
he's about 30" and 22 lbs now.....basically i'll keep him RF as long as feasible for our particular situation, but i'm not militant about the whole 35 lbs or anything....
my nephew is 3 and not yet 35 lbs. he has been forward facing since he was 1ish.
i have never heard of extended rear facing until the nest. there are quite a few fanatics on here.
Sorry, that should say 2 or 3 years, depending on how long she is.
Ditto!
Ok guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but in that one video that SuperCuteBenz has in her siggy, I think it's baby Joseph or something like that? ?They state that children don't gain the adult head/body proportion until they hit around 3 years old, hence the reason to keep them RF...the whole point of RF in an infant/toddler, is because the ratio of the head is so large in proportion to the body, they don't have the neck control to keep their head stabilized in a crash, which is the reason the spine can be injured and the baby can be paralyzed.
The 35lb limit isn't the magic number, it's the proportion of the head/neck, so if your baby is on the smaller side, but has reached the correct ratio (I guess confirm with a pedi on this one? ?I have no idea), then it's ok to turn them FF....I think the 35lbs is probably just the average size of a 3-4 yr old, so the car seat companies are probably making sure they are including the range of really heavy babies as well just to be safe...
FWIW, I think we will keep him RF until he is around 2 yrs...?
ok here is the answer from the carseat tech:
"Ok, being rearfacing will NOT break bones in legs. If by chance a bone is brok.en in a rearfacing accident, it means the accident is severe enough the neck would have been brok.en forward facing, a far more serious injury.
And yes...if your four year old still fits in a rearfacing convertible, absolutely use it rearfacing. It is that much safer.
My kids outgrew the rearfacing limit on their convertibles before three, otherwise they'd all be rearfacing, even the 4.5 year old.
Graco is premiering the MyRide in the summer, with a rearfacing weight limit of 40 lbs.
The short answer is, it is still significantly safer for a four year old to rearface, if he can. It only becomes unsafe when the weight limit is exceeded or the head exceeds the shell.
https://www.cpsafety.com/articles/RFAlbum.aspx
This is an older photo album, but it shows kids 3, 4, and older who are safely rearfacing in American seats. "
so yes. it can be done - as long as they are safely, height-wise, in their seat.
but i agree with bw - i have never seen so many extended rearfacers til here
from the 4 day class required to be able to take the certification class to be a CPS technician.
And for the record, here in MN, there have been ZERO reports of broken legs in a crash related to extended rear facing in the last 5 years. There have however, been plenty of cases of spinal cord and other injuries from a child forward facing (even if they meet the minimum required by law). Kids can cross their legs, it's really not hard.
While our muscular systems are better able to handle the forces of a crash while facing forward, the forces would be spread out over our bodies in a safer and wider pattern than they are with just a seat belt and air bag.