AAP rear facing until minimum 2 years

JARbaby · April 2009

https://baby411.typepad.com/babybargains/2009/04/experts-toddlers-belong-in-rearfacing-car-seat-until-age-2.html

Thank god the experts are backing it up FINALLY to save the dummies from themselves.

SuperCuteBenz · April 2009

Yay!

Unfortunately, it won't change the minds of some. Like the moron on craigslist this morning who swears her DS needed to forward face at 6 months because he was too tall for rear-facing. Ugh.

Rah · April 2009

do you have the other website handy that talk about this?

SuperCuteBenz · April 2009

Rah:
do you have the other website handy that talk about this?

https://www.joelsjourney.org

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DVfqFhseo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=azgBhZfcqaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2LFo8vVi04&NR=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDnBO76RFM&feature=related

www.kyledavidmiller.org.

https://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/c...trics;109/3/550
https://www.carseat.org/Resources/633.pdf
https://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.aspx
https://www.car-safety.org/rearface.html
https://www.cpsafety.com/articles/RFAlbum.aspx
https://www.thecarseatlady.com/car_seats/re...cing_seats.html
https://myangelsaliandpeanut.tripod.com/id5.html
https://www.aap.org/family/carseatguide.htm
https://www.aap.org/family/1to2yrs.htm
https://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/travelsafetytips.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRP7ynNI8mI
https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9916868
https://www.carseatsite.com/rear-face_article.htm

Here are a few crash test links to show you the difference in rear facing vs forward facing:

https://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/...icosipriori.mpg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rsqE-uOtMM4&mode=related&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K62Ea8Fs4ng...related&search=

Here is a crash test of a 12 month old RFing
https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/?action=view&current=video06A_MGA_213_RearFace-Convertib.flv

Then, here is the SAME 12 month old FFing
https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/?action=view&current=video06B_MGA_213_ForwardFace-Conver.flv

Dobie_Mama · April 2009

Thanks for the link!

Rah · April 2009

SuperCuteBenz:

Rah:
do you have the other website handy that talk about this?

https://www.joelsjourney.org

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DVfqFhseo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=azgBhZfcqaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2LFo8vVi04&NR=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDnBO76RFM&feature=related

www.kyledavidmiller.org.

https://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/c...trics;109/3/550
https://www.carseat.org/Resources/633.pdf
https://www.cpsafety.com/articles/stayrearfacing.aspx
https://www.car-safety.org/rearface.html
https://www.cpsafety.com/articles/RFAlbum.aspx
https://www.thecarseatlady.com/car_seats/re...cing_seats.html
https://myangelsaliandpeanut.tripod.com/id5.html
https://www.aap.org/family/carseatguide.htm
https://www.aap.org/family/1to2yrs.htm
https://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/travelsafetytips.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRP7ynNI8mI
https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9916868
https://www.carseatsite.com/rear-face_article.htm

Here are a few crash test links to show you the difference in rear facing vs forward facing:

https://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/...icosipriori.mpg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rsqE-uOtMM4&mode=related&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K62Ea8Fs4ng...related&search=

Here is a crash test of a 12 month old RFing
https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/?action=view&current=video06A_MGA_213_RearFace-Convertib.flv

Then, here is the SAME 12 month old FFing
https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/?action=view&current=video06B_MGA_213_ForwardFace-Conver.flv

HOLY CRAP! I ASK AND THE NESTIES SHALL DELIVER!!! thanks for the links!

Temp174496125006552 · April 2009

Amen.

bim38106 · April 2009

Thank you for posting this!! It gives me another reason to repost as my status on FB

I'm sure I'm annoying people, but the main person I'm trying to reach is a friend who turned her DD around and she's barely 18 lbs! To each their own.. I guess. I'd much rather get the info out there!

mattnlinz03 · April 2009

SuperCuteBenz:

Yay!

Unfortunately, it won't change the minds of some. Like the moron on craigslist this morning who swears her DS needed to forward face at 6 months because he was too tall for rear-facing. Ugh.

I agree with this. I just don't understand how people are so fast to switch their kids to FF especially after seeing those links that you post. Right now DS hates going in his seat RF, but too bad. I would rather listen to him scream for a couple of minutes than switch him to FF.

SuperCuteBenz · April 2009

mattnlinz03:
SuperCuteBenz:

Yay!

Unfortunately, it won't change the minds of some. Like the moron on craigslist this morning who swears her DS needed to forward face at 6 months because he was too tall for rear-facing. Ugh.

I agree with this. I just don't understand how people are so fast to switch their kids to FF especially after seeing those links that you post. Right now DS hates going in his seat RF, but too bad. I would rather listen to him scream for a couple of minutes than switch him to FF.

I feel your pain.

DD screams too. I am hoping that it will pass sooner rather than later. Wink

franciscaz · April 2009

The sad fact is that it really needs to become law. Otherwise some parents just won't care who tells him it is safer.

jason&robin · April 2009

Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

JARbaby · April 2009

jason&robin:
Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

If you think it was directed at you it was and you need to deal with that guilt. If not then no worries.

In all seriousness the dummies are the people who do things because it is what is easy (for them or the child) and not what is in the best interest of the child.

nbptbride · April 2009

agree.

nbptbride · April 2009

Let's try that again, with the quote this time.Agree.

nbptbride · April 2009

jason&robin:
Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

OK, last time! AGREE!

Stupid Nesting on an iPhone....Never works.

nbptbride · April 2009

jason&robin:
Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

OK, last time! AGREE!

Stupid Nesting on an iPhone....Never works.

nbptbride · April 2009

jason&robin:
Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

OK, last time! AGREE!

Stupid Nesting on an iPhone....Never works.

DaisyAdair · April 2009

That would be nice....are they going to give my DD something to stunt her growth so she doesn't grow out of the RF height limit on the car seat?

We had to turn her at 18mo because she's taller than the "seated height limit" on the Britax Marathon.

Since there is no way to shrink her, she's going to have to stay facing forward.

franciscaz · April 2009

DaisyAdair:
That would be nice....are they going to give my DD something to stunt her growth so she doesn't grow out of the RF height limit on the car seat?
We had to turn her at 18mo because she's taller than the "seated height limit" on the Britax Marathon.
Since there is no way to shrink her, she's going to have to stay facing forward.

I would go to a car seat check. I could be totally wrong but I can swear that there is a RF weight limit but not height limit on the marathon (I owned the seat). My DS is one of the biggest here at 34 almost 35 in and he still fits fine, b/c he hasn't hit the weight limit. That is the one that matters.

just13nat · April 2009

*francisca*:
DaisyAdair:

That would be nice....are they going to give my DD something to stunt her growth so she doesn't grow out of the RF height limit on the car seat?

We had to turn her at 18mo because she's taller than the "seated height limit" on the Britax Marathon.

Since there is no way to shrink her, she's going to have to stay facing forward.

I would go to a car seat check. I could be totally wrong but I can swear that there is a RF weight limit but not height limit on the marathon (I owned the seat). My DS is one of the biggest here at 34 almost 35 in and he still fits fine, b/c he hasn't hit the weight limit. That is the one that matters.

That is what I thought as well. No height limit, but weight limit is 33lbs.

DaisyAdair · April 2009

It says on their website Rear Facing, Seated Shoulder Height, 10.5-16". The measurement is taken from tailbone to shoulders while sitting.

Then again, it says 16" for Forward Facing, too!

Hmm.....I'll try carseat check since now I'm really confused.

jason&robin · April 2009

JARbaby:

jason&robin:
Thanks for the info. I don't know if you need to call us dummies if we have turned our kids around though.

If you think it was directed at you it was and you need to deal with that guilt. If not then no worries.

In all seriousness the dummies are the people who do things because it is what is easy (for them or the child) and not what is in the best interest of the child.

I don't feel like one. I have reconsidered changing him back to rear-facing since I have gained more information. I turned him around at 15 months because he was well over the legal limit. Now I am more informed. That doesn't mean that I was stupid before.

SuperCuteBenz · April 2009

just13nat:
*francisca*:
DaisyAdair:

That would be nice....are they going to give my DD something to stunt her growth so she doesn't grow out of the RF height limit on the car seat?

We had to turn her at 18mo because she's taller than the "seated height limit" on the Britax Marathon.

Since there is no way to shrink her, she's going to have to stay facing forward.

The rear-facing limit on our Marathon is 35lbs. Our Roundabout has a rear-facing limit of 33lbs, but that is because it is 3 years old. The new seats both have 35lb rear-facing limits.

I would go to a car seat check. I could be totally wrong but I can swear that there is a RF weight limit but not height limit on the marathon (I owned the seat). My DS is one of the biggest here at 34 almost 35 in and he still fits fine, b/c he hasn't hit the weight limit. That is the one that matters.

That is what I thought as well. No height limit, but weight limit is 33lbs.

LoriFalce · April 2009

Am I the only one weary of being lectured by experts about the ever-higher age until which children MUST remain rear-facing? Because I fully expect their next study to say I should still be rear-facing.

fire0513fly · April 2009

cmeon_the_water:
LoriFalce:

Am I the only one weary of being lectured by experts about the ever-higher age until which children MUST remain rear-facing? Because I fully expect their next study to say I should still be rear-facing.

Technically, you should be. It's safer for ALL of us. Someone farked up when they designed us with big old heads, little snapable necks, and gave us the ability to crash into each other at speeds we could never acheive on our own.

It would be awesome if we were all in 5-pt harnesses, too- but, we're still struggling to get ignorant _assholes (and if this offends a reader, I mean YOU) to wear their regular old seatbelt, so I doubt that will fly anytime soon.

A child's vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at great risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal cord can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less likely to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of severe injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a rear facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Prevention 2007; 13:398-402.)

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