i chose option 3. however, if DS were to do something dangerous like say, run out into the street, there might be a little butt swat simply out of sheer terror on my part. IMHO, any hands on discipline should be reserved for the most serious "offenses" (can't think of a better word at the moment). and i would never actually hurt him, use an instrument, or anything like that. EVER.
the only spankings I got as a child I can count on 1 hand and to honest I think I had them coming. (saying tough shiit to your dad, and telling him to wear the outfit in question if he liked it so much...)
We discuss this and H is more inclined to spank than I am but we'll see. It surely wont be the first step in discipline.
Spanking isn't my first choice and in our house it's only to get a serious message accross when other methods are not working. I find time out to be very effective. But, there are times when I think spanking is necessary and we are definitely not against using it. To each their own but I think it's very effective and in some cases with kids whose parents are against it ... it shows.
whoa. i had no idea there were so many pro-spankers.
Me either... it's refreshing to see!
YES! It's SO refreshing to know that people will resort to physical punishment of their children because they don't understand the root of their behavior! Yipee!
whoa. i had no idea there were so many pro-spankers.
Me either... it's refreshing to see!
YES! It's SO refreshing to know that people will resort to physical punishment of their children because they don't understand the root of their behavior! Yipee!
BARF.
i really wish i would have been more clear in my first response and stated how i will not spank because now i am forever linked with a nestie who finds it refreshing. yikes.
whoa. i had no idea there were so many pro-spankers.
Me either... it's refreshing to see!
YES! It's SO refreshing to know that people will resort to physical punishment of their children because they don't understand the root of their behavior! Yipee!
BARF.
Agreed. This is just sad. If this wasn't anonymous, all the kid smackers would be mum.
There are only two spankings that I can remember. One was my choice, because I sassed and cussed to my parents big time (I was 9), and I could either have a spanking, or chew a bar of soap, and me not being an idiot I chose the spanking. The second was from my dad because I slammed the door in his face while he was carrying a 40 inch tv. Deservedly so. All the other times, all my mom had to say was she was THINKING of sending my dad in for a spanking, and that worked well enough for us. But if I am out of options, I'm not completely against spankings. And call me what you will for believing that. To each her own.
Isn't it nice that so many moms let other moms discipline their children without criticism??! My child is not your responsiblity to discipline, and your child isn't mine- let each parent raise their children the way they see fit. Abuse is one thing that deserves swift and complete punishment from the law, but spanking is a personal choice, and WHEN DONE CORRECTLY usually works. Just like time outs work for some. There are so many moms critisizing those of us who spank, so here's one for those of you who don't. I was preschool teacher who cannot count the number of times children sat in time out swinging their legs, grinning, and talking back instead of time out actually making them correct their behavior. They'd get out of time out and go right back to doing the exact thing that got them into trouble. And when their moms came to pick them up, it was more than obvious that they had very little control of their children whatsoever-- and they were almost always the one's who said they didn't and never would spank.
Isn't it nice that so many moms let other moms discipline their children without criticism??! My child is not your responsiblity to discipline, and your child isn't mine- let each parent raise their children the way they see fit. Abuse is one thing that deserves swift and complete punishment from the law, but spanking is a personal choice, and WHEN DONE CORRECTLY usually works. Just like time outs work for some. There are so many moms critisizing those of us who spank, so here's one for those of you who don't. I was preschool teacher who cannot count the number of times children sat in time out swinging their legs, grinning, and talking back instead of time out actually making them correct their behavior. They'd get out of time out and go right back to doing the exact thing that got them into trouble. And when their moms came to pick them up, it was more than obvious that they had very little control of their children whatsoever-- and they were almost always the one's who said they didn't and never would spank.
yeah, nothing is easier than being a lazy cvnt and not taking the time to redirect or discipline your children correctly. a good swat on the a$$ could make your point crystal clear without even having to get your fat a$$ of the couch! just make them come to you! and of COURSE the only kids who have tantrums in public are the non-spanked kids. you are a lazy lazy parent. if it takes 100 times to redirect a child from doing something - do it. bc that is your job as a parent.
Isn't it nice that so many moms let other moms discipline their children without criticism??! My child is not your responsiblity to discipline, and your child isn't mine- let each parent raise their children the way they see fit. Abuse is one thing that deserves swift and complete punishment from the law, but spanking is a personal choice, and WHEN DONE CORRECTLY usually works. Just like time outs work for some. There are so many moms critisizing those of us who spank, so here's one for those of you who don't. I was preschool teacher who cannot count the number of times children sat in time out swinging their legs, grinning, and talking back instead of time out actually making them correct their behavior. They'd get out of time out and go right back to doing the exact thing that got them into trouble. And when their moms came to pick them up, it was more than obvious that they had very little control of their children whatsoever-- and they were almost always the one's who said they didn't and never would spank.
yeah, nothing is easier than being a lazy cvnt and not taking the time to redirect or discipline your children correctly. a good swat on the a$$ could make your point crystal clear without even having to get your fat a$$ of the couch! just make them come to you! and of COURSE the only kids who have tantrums in public are the non-spanked kids. you are a lazy lazy parent. if it takes 100 times to redirect a child from doing something - do it. bc that is your job as a parent.
Amen, not spanking does NOT mean not disciplining. Parents who choose not to discipline at all are raising those bratty kids, most of us anti-spankers are simply choosing non-violent ways to gain our children's attention and redirect them.
My child is not your responsibility to discipline, and your child isn't mine- let each parent raise their children the way they see fit.
Actually, the way you parent your child is my responsibility, especially when it comes to things that can damage our entire society. Children who are spanked, even when used as occasional discipline, are more likely to engage in delinquent behaviors, end up in jail, abuse drugs and/or alcohol, have lower self-esteem, display anti-social behaviors, abuse a future spouse or significant other, and live in poverty (I can provide you with well documented studies and links or you can simply google and find dozens of research studies. I am surprised you did not read any of them during your training and education to become a preschool teacher).
So yes, if you are doing things that can potentially cause those results, which impact all of us, it is my business. I do not want to live in a community with drug addicts, thieves and abusers, and I don't want my children to either. I don't want mu children to grow up and become inmates, drug addicts or abusers. And it surprises me that any parent would want that for their child's future.
And before you say, "I was spanked and I turned out fine" let me leave you with this last thought... not everyone who smokes cigarettes is going to get lung cancer, not everyone who drives drunk is going to get into an accident and kill themselves or another person, but why even risk the chance?
whoa. i had no idea there were so many pro-spankers.
Me either... it's refreshing to see!
YES! It's SO refreshing to know that people will resort to physical punishment of their children because they don't understand the root of their behavior! Yipee!
My child is not your responsibility to discipline, and your child isn't mine- let each parent raise their children the way they see fit.
Actually, the way you parent your child is my responsibility, especially when it comes to things that can damage our entire society. Children who are spanked, even when used as occasional discipline, are more likely to engage in delinquent behaviors, end up in jail, abuse drugs and/or alcohol, have lower self-esteem, display anti-social behaviors, abuse a future spouse or significant other, and live in poverty (I can provide you with well documented studies and links or you can simply google and find dozens of research studies. I am surprised you did not read any of them during your training and education to become a preschool teacher).
So yes, if you are doing things that can potentially cause those results, which impact all of us, it is my business. I do not want to live in a community with drug addicts, thieves and abusers, and I don't want my children to either. I don't want mu children to grow up and become inmates, drug addicts or abusers. And it surprises me that any parent would want that for their child's future.
And before you say, "I was spanked and I turned out fine" let me leave you with this last thought... not everyone who smokes cigarettes is going to get lung cancer, not everyone who drives drunk is going to get into an accident and kill themselves or another person, but why even risk the chance?
Awesome...so I get to judge people I know nothing about strictly because their choices may or may not damage our society. So, I can label those who "unschool" their children bad parents because I don't think it's the best form of education. Because I don't think that they are going to get an education good enough to contribute to society.
Or, I can judge someone who raises their children in a different religion than I do because I don't want their beliefs pushed on our society. C'mon....seriously. Do you really think how someone disciplines their child, short of abusing them, is the business of anyone but the parents?
I refuse to be labeled a bad, or lazy, parent because spanking my children is not out of the question. How many school shootings, or teens murdering a teacher/parent/sibling do you recall from the generations of our parents or grandparents? Certainly not many. How about from our, and younger generations? Funny to me that the most common form of discipline used then is now causing parents to be labeled lazy or bad parents.
I am not lazy....I'm too busy to be lazy. I will, however, do whatever it takes to raise respectful, levelheaded children....even if it means the occassional smack on the ass. If you still feel the need to label people because of one parenting choice, you have more issues then me, hon.
**disclaimer- I really don't feel that way about unschooling or other religions, just saying that it doesn't make any more sense to judge someone for that than it does for their discipline choices.
Re: Clicky/anonymous poll: Discipline
Me either... it's refreshing to see!
erm, more like frightening for me. to each her own. but i won't be spanking. i still shudder when i think of the spankings i got.
Ditto Califlorida.
the only spankings I got as a child I can count on 1 hand and to honest I think I had them coming. (saying tough shiit to your dad, and telling him to wear the outfit in question if he liked it so much...)
We discuss this and H is more inclined to spank than I am but we'll see. It surely wont be the first step in discipline.
YES! It's SO refreshing to know that people will resort to physical punishment of their children because they don't understand the root of their behavior! Yipee!
BARF.
i really wish i would have been more clear in my first response and stated how i will not spank because now i am forever linked with a nestie who finds it refreshing. yikes.
Agreed. This is just sad. If this wasn't anonymous, all the kid smackers would be mum.
Breleigh & Mason
yeah, nothing is easier than being a lazy cvnt and not taking the time to redirect or discipline your children correctly. a good swat on the a$$ could make your point crystal clear without even having to get your fat a$$ of the couch! just make them come to you! and of COURSE the only kids who have tantrums in public are the non-spanked kids. you are a lazy lazy parent. if it takes 100 times to redirect a child from doing something - do it. bc that is your job as a parent.
Amen, not spanking does NOT mean not disciplining. Parents who choose not to discipline at all are raising those bratty kids, most of us anti-spankers are simply choosing non-violent ways to gain our children's attention and redirect them.
Actually, the way you parent your child is my responsibility, especially when it comes to things that can damage our entire society. Children who are spanked, even when used as occasional discipline, are more likely to engage in delinquent behaviors, end up in jail, abuse drugs and/or alcohol, have lower self-esteem, display anti-social behaviors, abuse a future spouse or significant other, and live in poverty (I can provide you with well documented studies and links or you can simply google and find dozens of research studies. I am surprised you did not read any of them during your training and education to become a preschool teacher).
So yes, if you are doing things that can potentially cause those results, which impact all of us, it is my business. I do not want to live in a community with drug addicts, thieves and abusers, and I don't want my children to either. I don't want mu children to grow up and become inmates, drug addicts or abusers. And it surprises me that any parent would want that for their child's future.
And before you say, "I was spanked and I turned out fine" let me leave you with this last thought... not everyone who smokes cigarettes is going to get lung cancer, not everyone who drives drunk is going to get into an accident and kill themselves or another person, but why even risk the chance?
exactly.
Awesome...so I get to judge people I know nothing about strictly because their choices may or may not damage our society. So, I can label those who "unschool" their children bad parents because I don't think it's the best form of education. Because I don't think that they are going to get an education good enough to contribute to society.
Or, I can judge someone who raises their children in a different religion than I do because I don't want their beliefs pushed on our society. C'mon....seriously. Do you really think how someone disciplines their child, short of abusing them, is the business of anyone but the parents?
I refuse to be labeled a bad, or lazy, parent because spanking my children is not out of the question. How many school shootings, or teens murdering a teacher/parent/sibling do you recall from the generations of our parents or grandparents? Certainly not many. How about from our, and younger generations? Funny to me that the most common form of discipline used then is now causing parents to be labeled lazy or bad parents.
I am not lazy....I'm too busy to be lazy. I will, however, do whatever it takes to raise respectful, levelheaded children....even if it means the occassional smack on the ass. If you still feel the need to label people because of one parenting choice, you have more issues then me, hon.
**disclaimer- I really don't feel that way about unschooling or other religions, just saying that it doesn't make any more sense to judge someone for that than it does for their discipline choices.