Babies: 9 - 12 Months

If I have another kid, I'm moving to Sweden...

I'm reading Child Care Today: Getting It Right For Everyone by Penelope Leach.
I found this bit interesting...

In Sweden, you are given 480 days off of work - 60 of those days must be taken by the father. You receive 80% of your monthly wage for 390 days and then $24 per day after that. You have the right to part-time work at 80% of normal wage until the child is eight.

In the United Kingdom, you are given 365 days off of work. You receive 90% of your monthly wage for 42 days, then $189 per week for 270 days, and then no payment. You have the right to part-time work only at request and only if your request is taken seriously.

In the United States, you are given no time off of work by the government. You are given no equivalent pay, and you do not have the right to part-time work.

Provision of maternity leave by American employers
26% of employers provide four to six weeks of paid maternity leave.
24% provide a maximum of four weeks of paid maternity leave.
48% provide no paid maternity leave.
Paid family leave is available to only 14% of professional or managerial-level employees.
Paid family leave is very rarely available to employees earning less than $15 per hour.
The federal government provides no paid maternity leave or family leave: employees must use sick days or take unpaid time off.
- Institute for Women's Policy Research, 2007

Time to step it up, United States.

Re: If I have another kid, I'm moving to Sweden...

  • Wow. That's really interesting.
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  • Agreed.


     

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  • I'm going with you!
  • I agree.  I took 15 weeks but my boss gave me a hard time about it and I went back part time with a wage decrease.  Sucks big time :(
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  • this is criminal. 
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  • Wow.
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  • Oh man!!!  That's crazy!  Moving sounds good to me!
  • This is true for pretty much every other country in the world, but not the US.  Even Iraqi women got 3 months of PAID maternity leave under Saddam Hussein.  It makes me sick how undervalued families are in our society.  I find the first statistic REALLY hard to believe, actually.  I just can't see over 25% of companies giving paid maternity leave to their employees.  I just can't see that happening.
  • Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

  • Is that her new book?  I read an article about it, it sounded really interesting. 
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    Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

     

    I bet if we cut our defense budget by a few percentage points it would equal out to at least 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for every woman in this country.

  • imageRob&Heidi:
    imageBrahimBride:

    Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

     

    I bet if we cut our defense budget by a few percentage points it would equal out to at least 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for every woman in this country.

    My thoughts exactly.

     

  • imageRob&Heidi:
    imageBrahimBride:

    Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

     

    I bet if we cut our defense budget by a few percentage points it would equal out to at least 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for every woman in this country.

    but then the TERRORISTS would get us!!! Wink
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    imageRob&Heidi:
    imageBrahimBride:

    Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

     

    I bet if we cut our defense budget by a few percentage points it would equal out to at least 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for every woman in this country.

    but then the TERRORISTS would get us!!! Wink

    You are just so right. What was I thinking?

  • This is really awful--and embarrassing for a "world leader".
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  • Wow - very interesting. US needs to seriously consider changing their policy.
  • imageMrsGo4Hockeychick:
    imageRob&Heidi:
    imageBrahimBride:

    Well, to be fair..

    The personal tax rate in Sweden is nearly 50% and in the US it's nearly 30%...

    So they are paying for it....just in a different way.

     

    I bet if we cut our defense budget by a few percentage points it would equal out to at least 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for every woman in this country.

    but then the TERRORISTS would get us!!! Wink

     

    Oh God!  How could I forget about those pesky terrorists!!  

  • I just want to play devil's advocate for a minute...

    So, say you live in Sweden (UK, Canada, etc. with similar policies) and your company is hiring. ?You have 2 equally qualified candidates, they are both in their late 20s, and recently married. ?One is a man, one is a woman. ?Who would you hire? ?Do you really think they would hire the woman knowing that she is probably going to go on maternity leave and they have to hire and train a temp, possibly multiple times, and pay the woman's salary while she isn't working? ?This issue has got to affect women's advancement and standing in the workplace. ?Yes, it's discriminatory in a way, but not if all else is equal.

    I am absolutely NOT saying that the US has it right. ?I think it's atrocious what working mothers have to deal with in this country. ?But I'm just saying that there is another side to this issue and it isn't as black and white as it may seem... ?

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  • And go figure...my brother works for the military - a civilian job - and he gets eight weeks paternity leave.  So, tell me why our government provides these benefits to their workers but don't require such benefits for the rest of the country - so frustrating.
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  • Touche, salesman...

    Or, in this case, Mustang Sally. :O)  Something to look into...

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