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linzeek44

BeebopandBuddy

I don't understand the need to buy a holidaythemed outfit for kids for every holiday. Yeah, my kids get Christmas pjs and I do buy things sometimes if they are cheap, but "needing" an outfit for Fourth of July, St. Patrick's Day, Thanksgiving... I don't get it.

thebanich

Inspired by an argument I am in the middle of on FB.

 

I think semi-truck drivers have an obligation to drive safely because 1) that is literally their job and 2) their vehicles are so much larger than others on the road and can do a crap load more damage to something than my Prius.

 

(Not that all drivers shouldn't drive safely/responsibly, we definitely should all take driving more seriously than we do.. I'm just terrified of Semi-trucks and see a lot of the drivers doing stupid things...)

MarisaKathleen

I hate that my DH wears socks to bed.  Not just socks, but the socks he's worn all day.  It's gross.  I cannot stand having socks on ever, much less to go to bed. 

Also, delaine, Nancy has an outfit for every holiday.  My Mom buys her a onesie for everything.  I'm surprised we haven't gotten one for Flag day. :-)

BeebopandBuddy

Banich4eva:

Inspired by an argument I am in the middle of on FB.nbsp;I think semitruck drivers have an obligation to drive safely because 1 that is literally their job and 2 their vehicles are so much larger than others on the road and can do a crap load more damage to something than my Prius.nbsp;Not that all drivers shouldn't drive safely/responsibly, we definitely should all take driving more seriously than we do.. I'm just terrified of Semitrucks and see a lot of the drivers doing stupid things...

How is someone arguing with you about this?

thebanich

MiraskTastic:

I don't like when men walk around shirtless. I think a sweaty, tight t-shirt is way sexier for some reason. 

 

I appreciate a shirtless guy if he has something to show off. My H has awesome arms/shoulders/abs but never walks around shirtless because he says it is uncomfortable. My brothers never wore shirts in the house if they didn't have to so this has always cracked me up.

mrsbhk22

I hate yard work. I would rather clean a bathroom than weed a flower bed. YUCK!

thebanich

delaine0821:

Banich4eva:

Inspired by an argument I am in the middle of on FB.nbsp;I think semitruck drivers have an obligation to drive safely because 1 that is literally their job and 2 their vehicles are so much larger than others on the road and can do a crap load more damage to something than my Prius.nbsp;Not that all drivers shouldn't drive safely/responsibly, we definitely should all take driving more seriously than we do.. I'm just terrified of Semitrucks and see a lot of the drivers doing stupid things...

How is someone arguing with you about this?

 

Ehh.. ignorance I guess?  I have no idea. I live in the mountains and drive up and down a 6 mile highway with a really steep grade and often see trucks just driving along like its no big deal. They roll those things at least once a month. 

Holly_1007

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school (I guess a GED is acceptable) in order to get it. 

Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license. 

MomtobeNJ

I notice people using the word "gift" as a verb more often than I can ever remember. While I know it is grammatically correct, it irks me for some reason. I can't even put my finger on why.

"I was gifted a serving platter for my wedding."

"I will gift this bottle of wine to my neighbor."

I just don't like it. 

thebanich

MomtobeNJ:

I notice people using the word "gift" as a verb more often than I can ever remember. While I know it is grammatically correct, it irks me for some reason. I can't even put my finger on why.

"I was gifted a serving platter for my wedding."

"I will gift this bottle of wine to my neighbor."

I just don't like it. 

 

Maybe they are trying to be fancy?  

BeebopandBuddy

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this?

My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

Holly_1007

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this? My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc. It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

jbBeans

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Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Do I need to state the obvious? It's "whose," not "who's." What was that you were saying about needing to speak English properly?

This is definitely not going to go over well.

jocymama

MarisaKathleen:

I hate that my DH wears socks to bed.  Not just socks, but the socks he's worn all day.  It's gross.  I cannot stand having socks on ever, much less to go to bed. 

Also, delaine, Nancy has an outfit for every holiday.  My Mom buys her a onesie for everything.  I'm surprised we haven't gotten one for Flag day. :-)

Ooh that would drive me crazy. I am not big fan of feet in general (although they are very useful ) but socks in bed is gross to me. 

Stasi

cheeseandrice:

Holly_1007:

oh, holly.

 

Holly_1007

jbBeans:

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Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Do I need to state the obvious? It's "whose," not "who's." What was that you were saying about needing to speak English properly? This is definitely not going to go over well.

Sorry, mobile autocorrected that one for me.  Its not about speaking english properly, but being able to have a (decent) conversation and read the signs.

Didn't someone here get in a car accident while pregnant and the other person involved didn't speak enough english to even be able to communicate their car insurance information?

BeebopandBuddy

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this?

My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds
a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc.
It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

I wil have to let my mom know that after raising two children, at the age of 55, she is not educated enough to drive.

Holly_1007

TheNetwork:

Holly_1007:

Sorry, mobile autocorrected that one for me.  Its not about speaking english properly, but being able to have a (decent) conversation and read the signs.

Didn't someone here get in a car accident while pregnant and the other person involved didn't speak enough english to even be able to communicate their car insurance information?

So what exactly does their immigration status have to do with it? 

I guess immigration status isn't my main issue, its the ability to speak english and communicate, guess I should have made that more clear. 

Holly_1007

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this? My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc. It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

I wil have to let my mom know that after raising two children, at the age of 55, she is not educated enough to drive.

I'm sure she could pass a GED, correct? If thats the case then she is educated enough to drive. This is not a personal vendetta against your mother darling.

BeebopandBuddy

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this?

My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds
a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc.
It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

I wil have to let my mom know that after raising two children, at the age of 55, she is not educated enough to drive.

I'm sure she could pass a GED, correct? If thats the case then she is educated enough to drive. This is not a personal vendetta against your mother darling.

I know it's not and the condescending "darling" is not necessary. The point is that one has nothing to do with the other.

Unem

Isn't there a written test involved in getting your license?  I mean, wouldn't you have to be able to read and answer those questions?

jbBeans

PACgirl71:

Holly_1007:

jbBeans:

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Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Do I need to state the obvious? It's "whose," not "who's." What was that you were saying about needing to speak English properly?

This is definitely not going to go over well.

Sorry, mobile autocorrected that one for me.  Its not about speaking english properly, but being able to have a (decent) conversation and read the signs.

Didn't someone here get in a car accident while pregnant and the other person involved didn't speak enough english to even be able to communicate their car insurance information?

So if you go to a foreign country, you would never rent a car and drive?  What about someone with a hearing impairment with a high school diploma who is a US citizen that uses sign language to communicate?  Should we not allow them to drive until they can speak?

There are also many countries around the world where multiple languages are spoken and this doesn't seem to affect everyone's ability to share the road.

linzeek44

I'm pretty sure the reason that most signs are symbols rather than words are to negate the language barrier issue.

And it's going to be really hard to get to those ESL classes if you can't drive.

Anyway, I disagree with all of that. I think to have a license you should pass the DRIVING test since that is sorta the point of it existing.

BeebopandBuddy

Unem:

Isn't there a written test involved in getting your license?nbsp; I mean, wouldn't you have to be able to read and answer those questions?

Yes, and it is provided in multiple languages to be inclusive and accommodating. That's also why STOP signs are always red octagons, etc.

thebanich

MiraskTastic:

cheeseandrice:

I don't know if this is a UO, but based on conversations here sometimes I feel like it is.  I think people pay NO where near enough attention to what's going on in the world or even our own country (for us Americans.) I try to be sane and not jump to extremes, but there is some serious effed up ish going on here and it scares me how little people realize or care.

i agree.

I am not as well informed as I would like to be, but I know others who are far less so...and seem to not even care.  

 

Is there something specific you are thinking of?

 

I agree to an extent but I also think that if everyone knew everything that goes on without our knowledge there would be chaos. 

jbBeans

linzeek44:

I'm pretty sure the reason that most signs are symbols rather than words are to negate the language barrier issue.

And it's going to be really hard to get to those ESL classes if you can't drive.

Anyway, I disagree with all of that. I think to have a license you should pass the DRIVING test since that is sorta the point of it existing.

Stasi

Banich4eva:

MiraskTastic:

cheeseandrice:

I don't know if this is a UO, but based on conversations here sometimes I feel like it is.  I think people pay NO where near enough attention to what's going on in the world or even our own country (for us Americans.) I try to be sane and not jump to extremes, but there is some serious effed up ish going on here and it scares me how little people realize or care.

i agree.

I am not as well informed as I would like to be, but I know others who are far less so...and seem to not even care.  

 

Is there something specific you are thinking of?

 

I agree to an extent but I also think that if everyone knew everything that goes on without our knowledge there would be chaos. 

I also agree, to an extent. I have friends who have to back away from the news sometimes...they absorb everything and they are very sensitive and actually become somewhat affected by what they see...sometimes knowing every little thing going on in every corner of the world can really alter your mood in a negative way.

Flamingemu

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to RE-take the written and behind the wheel driving test every 5-10 years depending on your age.

LuvSD

Holly_1007:

TheNetwork:

Holly_1007:

Sorry, mobile autocorrected that one for me.  Its not about speaking english properly, but being able to have a (decent) conversation and read the signs.

Didn't someone here get in a car accident while pregnant and the other person involved didn't speak enough english to even be able to communicate their car insurance information?

So what exactly does their immigration status have to do with it? 

I guess immigration status isn't my main issue, its the ability to speak english and communicate, guess I should have made that more clear. 

So if you ever visit a country where you don't speak their language, you aren't going to drive?

My friends and I drove in France once. Non of us speak an ounce of French. We were fine.

BeebopandBuddy

Flamingemu:

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to REtake the written and behind the wheel driving test every 510 years depending on your age.

I agree somewhat, but I don't think it should be dependent on your age. A refresher and retest every 5 or 10 years for everyone would be a PITA, but could help a lot if conducted the right way.

MomtobeNJ

delaine0821:

Flamingemu:

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to REtake the written and behind the wheel driving test every 510 years depending on your age.

I agree somewhat, but I don't think it should be dependent on your age. A refresher and retest every 5 or 10 years for everyone would be a PITA, but could help a lot if conducted the right way.

I agree. Spending a few hours at the DMV is a nightmare as it is. Could you imagine if EVERY licensed driver needed to retake the test, turn in their license if they failed it, get one reissued once they pass again....

Insanity.

LuvSD

Flamingemu:

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to RE-take the written and behind the wheel driving test every 5-10 years depending on your age.

I agree but I will take it a little further. I think once you reach a certain age (not sure what it should be) you should have to take the driving test every year. My DH's 91 year grandmother just got her license renewed....it is scary.

Flamingemu

LuvSD:

Flamingemu:

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to RE-take the written and behind the wheel driving test every 5-10 years depending on your age.

I agree but I will take it a little further. I think once you reach a certain age (not sure what it should be) you should have to take the driving test every year. My DH's 91 year grandmother just got her license renewed....it is scary.

This is kind of where it comes from. My GFIL is now 93 and the only reason he won't be driving anymore is because he is moving back to the DC metro area and my MIL has convinced him to sell his car. I am pretty sure he knows it is time to stop driving, but as long as he passes the eye test at the Dr, he is allowed to maintain his license. So he can see, but his memory sucks so he can get lost for 4 hours going to the grocery store down the block. 

Hyaline

cheeseandrice:

I don't know if this is a UO, but based on conversations here sometimes I feel like it is.  I think people pay NO where near enough attention to what's going on in the world or even our own country (for us Americans.) I try to be sane and not jump to extremes, but there is some serious effed up ish going on here and it scares me how little people realize or care.

Yup.

And when they do start to have an inkling of what's going on, it's completely colored by their political leanings in my experience. Like it only matters insomuch as getting their candidate into office next election matters.  

It makes me sad and gives me a headache.  Or maybe it makes me a headache and gives me a sad? 

Pokedot

LuvSD:

Flamingemu:

While I don't agree with Holly, I have a driving related one. I think you should have to RE-take the written and behind the wheel driving test every 5-10 years depending on your age.

I agree but I will take it a little further. I think once you reach a certain age (not sure what it should be) you should have to take the driving test every year. My DH's 91 year grandmother just got her license renewed....it is scary.

I totally agree with this! My grandmother is 86 and while she can drive she doesn't pay an ounce of attention to anything other than the car right in front of her. I was next to her at a stop light once. Waving, honking my horn and she never noticed! Now that's scary! They could either do a written test or with an instructor or both every year. I think that would weed out the people who really can't drive anymore.

In reference to Holly's post what does everyone feel about different languages in general? I realize our nation is a melting pot and that's wonderful for diversity but I feel if you migrate to the USA and our primary language is English(at least if used to be) you should need to speak decent English in public to shop clerks, waitresses etc. and whatever language you'd like at home. Basic language is a must IMO. If I were going to live in France for example I'd learn French. At least enough to get me by. I wouldn't be speaking English to a French person who wouldn't understand. Both frustrating for me and for them.

Hyaline

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this? My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc. It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

I can see your point about 18 being a jump in maturity.  I disagree with you--I would rather see restricted driving at 16 while theoretically the driver still has parental guidance in using the car than hand them a license at 18 with no legal guardian ultimately responsible.

I can almost see your point about graduating high school or getting a GED being a measure of maturity, but a) have you met a lot of high school graduates? and b) taking away someone's ability to transport themselves could actually cause them hardship in getting  a GED or further education or gainful employment.  You do realize that if a person has no way to get to work, your tax dollars will have to buy them Skittles, right?

Finally, it's not like you're actually estimating distance in a car when driving in any kind of mathematical way.  You know what is safe, you learn how to maneuver your vehicle. These are spatial reasoning skills, sure, but not math-class-taught skills.  At least, I assume I'm not the only one saying "Well, must maintain space cushion of 200 feet at this point.  I'm travelling at 35 miles per hour, and a train left Buffalo travelling 70 mph at 2 pm and when will we meet?" 

Hyaline

Holly_1007:

delaine0821:

Holly_1007:

I think you shouldn't be able to get a drivers license until you are 18. And need to graduate from high school I guess a GED is acceptable in order to get it.nbsp; Also, immigrants and those who's first language isn't english should become residents, take an ESL class and pass the GED before being able to get a drivers license.nbsp;

Wow, I don't think this is going to go over well. Why would you think this? My mother never graduated high school but she has had far fewer accidents than my father, who is a college graduate. And what does speaking English have to do with driving? If I move to Germany, I would hope that my inability to speak Germany wouldn't negate my driving abilities.

I think there is a huge maturity difference between 16 year olds and 18 year olds a high school graduate versus someone that dropped out of school at 6 grade (for example) has higher levels of education. Driving a car is way more involved than just getting behind the wheel, steering, gas & brakes. Being able to estimate the distance between x and y, the speed you are going, rate of acceleration, braking, merging etc. It would inate your ability to read the signs on the road in a language you cant understand.

edit: sorry mobile messed up the formatting.

I can see your point about 18 being a jump in maturity.  I disagree with you--I would rather see restricted driving at 16 while theoretically the driver still has parental guidance in using the car than hand them a license at 18 with no legal guardian ultimately responsible.

I can almost see your point about graduating high school or getting a GED being a measure of maturity, but a) have you met a lot of high school graduates? and b) taking away someone's ability to transport themselves could actually cause them hardship in getting  a GED or further education or gainful employment.  You do realize that if a person has no way to get to work, your tax dollars will have to buy them Skittles, right?

Finally, it's not like you're actually estimating distance in a car when driving in any kind of mathematical way.  You know what is safe, you learn how to maneuver your vehicle. These are spatial reasoning skills, sure, but not math-class-taught skills.  At least, I assume I'm not the only one saying "Well, must maintain space cushion of 200 feet at this point.  I'm travelling at 35 miles per hour, and a train left Buffalo travelling 70 mph at 2 pm and when will we meet?" 

tinyhumantoe

The demographics of the top 5 worst/most dangerous drivers I've ever been in a car with:

1. PhD
2. 3x post doc
3. BS
4. PhD
5. BA

The top 3 nearly killed us.  #1 drove into the side of a semi while trying to merge onto a 70mph interstate at 25mph.  In hindsight, I should have jumped out the door.

Pokedot

tinyhumantoe:

The demographics of the top 5 worst/most dangerous drivers I've ever been in a car with:

1. PhD
2. 3x post doc
3. BS
4. PhD
5. BA

The top 3 nearly killed us.  #1 drove into the side of a semi while trying to merge onto a 70mph interstate at 25mph.  In hindsight, I should have jumped out the door.

Bahahaha! Just because you're book smart doesn't mean you're common sense smart! I have an engineer on my softball team. Very smart obviously but when it comes to anything common sense forget it. It's like talking to a brick wall!

AppleMomma

I'm not sure how I feel about the Pioneer Woman, I feel like she is a complete AW most of the time...and her voice, I can't handle it for too long.

I do like her recipes though, and her photos around the ranch on the blog.

Just not her show or her voice, or her AWness.

Which is funny because my SIL is going to be on her show in July. And I'm looking forward to that.