UOs/Judgments

amyc216

I'm at work very early today- I'll start this

amyc216

I can't stand hearing about people's dreams.  As soon as I hear, "I had the weirdest dream last night..." I just glaze over.

Nita2603

amyc216:

I can't stand hearing about people's dreams.nbsp; As soon as I hear, "I had the weirdest dream last night..." I just glaze over.

Haha. I don't listen to those either.

Nita2603

Mine: I just don't understand people who feel the need to be liked by everybody or close to everybody. Nothing wrong with being popular, but I feel it is more important to be myself. If people don't like the real me, I am ok with that. I personally am rather liked by less people and be ok with myself.

If you can be both, perfect. But I have watched a few ladies recently irl making changes over changes to accommodate other people's expectations and they are slowly losing themselves. Which is sad.

missyishere

I judge mother nature for being a super recently.  I'm so sick of rainy weather, and the f'ucking storms are ridiculous.  We have strong and severe weather warnings all day today and tomorrow.  I'm supposed to traveling tomorrow, bush, now let me be! 

KrisM86

I'm judging myself for putting an episode of Dora on for DD so I can drink my coffee and bump in peace while DS is asleep.

colliebabe

I am judging the two places we went this weekend that had a changing table in the ladies' room but not the men's room.  H offered to take DD when she needed to be changed, and two times came out because there was no changing table.  Then I went into the ladies room and there were changing tables. WTF? Only moms can/need to change diapers? 

cantalopes24

colleenb262:

I am judging the two places we went this weekend that had a changing table in the ladies' room but not the men's room.  H offered to take DD when she needed to be changed, and two times came out because there was no changing table.  Then I went into the ladies room and there were changing tables. WTF? Only moms can/need to change diapers? 

I use sink counters sometimes, even when there is a changing table because some changing tables skeeve me out!  

missyishere

SuperDeDuper:

missyishere:

I judge mother nature for being a super recently.  I'm so sick of rainy weather, and the f'ucking storms are ridiculous.  We have strong and severe weather warnings all day today and tomorrow.  I'm supposed to traveling tomorrow, bush, now let me be! 

I judge TB for editing Missy's word.  Now the post looks like you're comparing mother nature to me...and I'm not nearly as big of a spitefulbitch as she is.  At least not lately. 

sofabitch, it was supposed to say CUUUNT. Mother Nature's a CUUUNT!

missyishere

colleenb262:

I am judging the two places we went this weekend that had a changing table in the ladies' room but not the men's room.  H offered to take DD when she needed to be changed, and two times came out because there was no changing table.  Then I went into the ladies room and there were changing tables. WTF? Only moms can/need to change diapers? 

DH had this issue when SD was still in diapers.  He was a single father and often had nowhere to change her other than the car.  Sad, really.

rubysue267

SuperDeDuper:

I think seatbelt laws for adults are stupid.  I 100% support laws saying that children must be belted, in proper carseats or booster seats, and that adults who perhaps cannot make decisions for themselves need their caretakers to belt them in etc, but for the most part when you're over 18 I think you should be allowed to make the decision for yourself.  If you're stupid enough to not buckle up then that's your own fault.

This was sparked by the signs around the cities saying 'increased seatbelt enforcement this weekend'.  I just wonder how much money and manpower has been wasted making those laws and enforcing them when there are plenty of (IMO) more important issues we should be addressing.

And yes, I always wear a seatbelt and anyone in my car must wear a seatbelt at all times.

So I sort of agree with you and sort of don't, haha. On one hand, I agree that adults should have the freedom to make their own decisions and here in Maryland, the fine for not wearing a seatbelt is $50 (which is outrageous IMO).

I talked about this with DH's uncle who's a rescue EMT/Firefighter and he said that when you look at things from a financial perspective, the seatbelt laws make more sense. For example, for someone who survives an accident will most likely need to be flown to Shock Trauma, will require emergency services from several counties (drawing the staff away from the communities that may need them for more "routine" things like house fires, etc.), and if the injury results in long-term disability, you then have someone who can't work and has to collect disability funds in order to survive. I don't like to look at human lives in terms of dollars and cents, but it did make me think differently on the subject. Like, if I'm dumb enough to drive without my seatbelt I'd rather get the fine as a reminder to not be so careless than die or end up with a permanent disability. Is it the government's job to babysit me? Definitely not. But I think there are financial and social benefits of the law, so I can sort of get behind it.

missyishere

I judge my infamous acquaintance during our camping trip a couple weekends ago.  She did nothing but yell at her almost 3 year old, she spanked him bare bottom for trying to hit her, told him she didn't care if he tried to run away, and bragged about giving him vinegar to stop his thumb sucking once again.  Spank if you want, but bare assed is unnecessary, and then telling him you don't care if he ran away?  F'ucking A, no wonder is misbehaves.  

Nita2603

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

OMG, yes!!!
Back home I have a 'friend' who did this. Just now, she is still KU. Best part? It warranted a phone call here. To tell me she knows but won't tell me. Yes. Calling overseas to say 'I know something but I won't tell you.'

She also was offended when I did not try to convince her otherwise. Because, you know....I couldn't give enough frucks to try.

lisamonkee11

SuperDeDuper:

rubysue267:

So I sort of agree with you and sort of don't, haha. On one hand, I agree that adults should have the freedom to make their own decisions and here in Maryland, the fine for not wearing a seatbelt is $50 (which is outrageous IMO).

I talked about this with DH's uncle who's a rescue EMT/Firefighter and he said that when you look at things from a financial perspective, the seatbelt laws make more sense. For example, for someone who survives an accident will most likely need to be flown to Shock Trauma, will require emergency services from several counties (drawing the staff away from the communities that may need them for more "routine" things like house fires, etc.), and if the injury results in long-term disability, you then have someone who can't work and has to collect disability funds in order to survive. I don't like to look at human lives in terms of dollars and cents, but it did make me think differently on the subject. Like, if I'm dumb enough to drive without my seatbelt I'd rather get the fine as a reminder to not be so careless than die or end up with a permanent disability. Is it the government's job to babysit me? Definitely not. But I think there are financial and social benefits of the law, so I can sort of get behind it.

That's interesting Rubysue, and I can agree with what you're saing. If it ends up saving more money than it spends then I can support it.  The only doubt I have is *if* the law really actually changes behavior and if so, if it changes it enough to save money. I don't doubt that less serious injuries and fewer deaths are better for everyone, but are people who don't want to wear seatbelts really going to wear them because it's a law? Or are we wasting our money and time trying to make them change but not making a difference?  As long as we're using resources on it I certainly hope it's making a difference.

Bottom line, we shouldn't even need a law to buckle up. Wear your darn seatbelt people!

That last bit is the same argument the NRA is making about gun laws. "Criminals won't follow gun laws so why bother having them?"

Argument makes no sense.

colliebabe

SuperDeDuper:

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

I agree that it seems silly.

Along the same lines I judge the people who told me "needing to be prepared" was an important reason for finding out the sex.  So because I was Team Green I wasn't prepared?    Um no.  I was plenty prepared, overly prepared now that I look back on it. 

This times a million.  It is one of my biggest pet peeves. I am a planner and Type A, and was plenty prepared for DD without knowing the sex.

wilsontl19191

Woodsie:

SuperDeDuper:

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

I agree that it seems silly.

Along the same lines I judge the people who told me "needing to be prepared" was an important reason for finding out the sex.  So because I was Team Green I wasn't prepared?    Um no.  I was plenty prepared, overly prepared now that I look back on it. 

I admit that this is a reason why we found out and will again. It's not that I think team greeners and be prepared, but I really wanted a very boyish or girly nursery and clothes, and I didn't want to deal with decorating or doing much shopping after baby was born. Nothing against gender neutral, it's just not my preference. But mostly I'm just impatient.

Woodsie, you took the words right out of my mouth. 

Mrs. Mo

Not an UO but definitely a judgement: I judge anyone who walks really slow to the bathroom at work (& don't walk to the side of the hall). Our office doesn't have it's own bathroom so we have to go out into the main part of the building & use a common bathroom. So, you have to time your trips (& I swear our receptionist watches how many times people go). I hate it when I need to pee and someone is sauntering down the hallway like they don't care when they get there.

Mrs. Mo

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

My cousin did this and it just annoys the sh!t out of everyone. She didn't find out with #1 but is pulling this crap this time around. Seriously, either let people know or not. Don't try to make it all suspenseful.

Mrs. Mo

Woodsie:

SuperDeDuper:

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

I agree that it seems silly.

Along the same lines I judge the people who told me "needing to be prepared" was an important reason for finding out the sex.  So because I was Team Green I wasn't prepared?    Um no.  I was plenty prepared, overly prepared now that I look back on it. 

I admit that this is a reason why we found out and will again. It's not that I think team greeners and be prepared, but I really wanted a very boyish or girly nursery and clothes, and I didn't want to deal with decorating or doing much shopping after baby was born. Nothing against gender neutral, it's just not my preference. But mostly I'm just impatient. Eta you can judge me for gender stereotyping, I can take it ;

Same here but my main thing is that I have a severe hatred for the color yellow (long story- goes back to childhood). Since most gender-neutral clothing/stuff are either green or yellow, I didn't want to deal with it. As it is, my sister made sure to tell people (while planning my shower) not to get us any all yellow clothing (some yellow is ok but not total yellow). My hatred of the color is so bad that I refused to use the yellow swaddle blankets MIL got us (and, yes, she knew of my adversion to the color before buying them).

lisamonkee11

I judge DH for being so ridiculously selfish the last few months. I realize it must be tough to be with someone who doesn't want to have sex, but constantly reminding me that I'm "frigid" isn't going to help your cause. And when I mention that it is typically 6 weeks after childbirth that you have to wait, responding with "great. Lots of fun for me" also doesn't make me want to jumping the sack with you either.

Oh and yeah, make sure you say this to me on the anniversary of my mother's death, because I surely need reminding how much I suck today.

rubysue267

I judge when people decide to have another child due to wanting a certain sex. I can completely understand wanting another child and thinking, "gee, it would be nice if we had a girl this time" but I'm talking about the people who say, "I can't imagine having another child because I'm already at my limit, but DH really wants a boy." This isn't in reference to anyone on this board obviously, but the last time we were at the Pedi's office, a mom was there with three boys and was saying how tough it was to handle three kids but that she'd keep trying until she got a girl. Seriously? I mean, do you really think that your child's genitalia is the appropriate factor in determining your family size? I just don't get it.

When DH's cousin was pregnant with their first child, they were initially told it was a boy. A few weeks later they found out they were having a healthy little girl and the big story in the family was how her H cried and cried because he was so disappointed he wasn't getting his boy. I can understand a momentary feeling of, "oh, that's a surprise" but to say you're devastated? That immediately makes me suspect as to your motivations behind wanting to be a parent. He seems like a great dad and he obviously loves both his little girls, but I'd hate for either of them to ever find out that their dad was wishing and hoping for a boy during each pregnancy. Everyone deserves the basic respect of being viewed as more than just their sex and I fundamentally don't understand such deep-rooted desire for male or female children.

missyishere

lisamonkee11:

I judge DH for being so ridiculously selfish the last few months. I realize it must be tough to be with someone who doesn't want to have sex, but constantly reminding me that I'm "frigid" isn't going to help your cause. And when I mention that it is typically 6 weeks after childbirth that you have to wait, responding with "great. Lots of fun for me" also doesn't make me want to jumping the sack with you either.

Oh and yeah, make sure you say this to me on the anniversary of my mother's death, because I surely need reminding how much I suck today.

Your H is a jackoff.

lisamonkee11

missyishere:

lisamonkee11:

I judge DH for being so ridiculously selfish the last few months. I realize it must be tough to be with someone who doesn't want to have sex, but constantly reminding me that I'm "frigid" isn't going to help your cause. And when I mention that it is typically 6 weeks after childbirth that you have to wait, responding with "great. Lots of fun for me" also doesn't make me want to jumping the sack with you either.

Oh and yeah, make sure you say this to me on the anniversary of my mother's death, because I surely need reminding how much I suck today.

Your H is a jackoff.

Why yes... Yes he is.

rubysue267

lisamonkee11:

I judge DH for being so ridiculously selfish the last few months. I realize it must be tough to be with someone who doesn't want to have sex, but constantly reminding me that I'm "frigid" isn't going to help your cause. And when I mention that it is typically 6 weeks after childbirth that you have to wait, responding with "great. Lots of fun for me" also doesn't make me want to jumping the sack with you either. Oh and yeah, make sure you say this to me on the anniversary of my mother's death, because I surely need reminding how much I suck today.

I really really want to punch your H right now. I am so sorry he's treating you like this, especially on such an emotionally difficult day for you. Does he really think that belittling you to the point of you "giving in" is going to result in great sex? If I were you, I'd hand him a bottle of lotion and a box of kleenex and tell him that from now on, whenever he thinks of guilting you into sex, he should visit the bathroom and make love to his right hand.

I'm really sorry for the loss of your mom, Lisa. Take it easy on yourself today. 

colliebabe

rubysue267:

I judge when people decide to have another child due to wanting a certain sex. I can completely understand wanting another child and thinking, "gee, it would be nice if we had a girl this time" but I'm talking about the people who say, "I can't imagine having another child because I'm already at my limit, but DH really wants a boy." This isn't in reference to anyone on this board obviously, but the last time we were at the Pedi's office, a mom was there with three boys and was saying how tough it was to handle three kids but that she'd keep trying until she got a girl. Seriously? I mean, do you really think that your child's genitalia is the appropriate factor in determining your family size? I just don't get it.

When DH's cousin was pregnant with their first child, they were initially told it was a boy. A few weeks later they found out they were having a healthy little girl and the big story in the family was how her H cried and cried because he was so disappointed he wasn't getting his boy. I can understand a momentary feeling of, "oh, that's a surprise" but to say you're devastated? That immediately makes me suspect as to your motivations behind wanting to be a parent. He seems like a great dad and he obviously loves both his little girls, but I'd hate for either of them to ever find out that their dad was wishing and hoping for a boy during each pregnancy. Everyone deserves the basic respect of being viewed as more than just their sex and I fundamentally don't understand such deep-rooted desire for male or female children.

All of this. The devastation some people have over not getting a certain sex is mind-boggling to me.  I can understand some intial disappointment, but crying for weeks and taking days off of work because of it is ridiculous (and yes, I have seen people do this!)

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I think private businesses should be allowed to decide for themselves whether they allow smoking.  The law should be able to dictate what happens in public buildings and on sidewalks, but what happens in a restaurant or coffee shop or bar should be between the business, the building owner, and the clientele.

christiney06

I judge parents who use FB to get free babysitters all the time.  I have a friend who posts  "can anyone watch X for a few hours tomorrow?" At least 2-3x a month.  One of these days I'm going to reply with , www.care.com. 

LCass

SuperDeDuper:

Woodsie:

I also judge people who find out the sex of their baby but won't tell anyone. It just seems so AWish. I don't care if you find out or not, and I don't really care what you're having, but think it's lame to say "we know but we're not teeeellling"

I agree that it seems silly.

Along the same lines I judge the people who told me "needing to be prepared" was an important reason for finding out the sex.  So because I was Team Green I wasn't prepared?    Um no.  I was plenty prepared, overly prepared now that I look back on it. 

Definitely annoying/childish to make a big deal out of knowing but not telling.  And I am SO with you, Super.  I hated that argument.  We're team green again, which people find even more surprising (I know a bunch of families who did it for the first kid only) it seems.  If you want to know, that's fine, and your reasons are your own.  Wanting gender neutral stuff was part of why we wanted to be team green, so I can totally see why wanting gender specific stuff would be a reason to find out, Woodsie.  I do however judge my (super anal/controlling) friend who started team green and whose H really wanted it to be a surprise.  About a month AFTER the anatomy scan she decided she couldn't wait any longer and paid for a 3D scan to find out the sex.  She then justified it by saying thank goodness she had all that time to plan the bris since it was a boy.  Um, the bris happens 8 days after baby's born, and you never know when the baby's going to be born anyway.  So it always requires fairly last minute planning.  Really, focus on your new baby and let somebody else worry about picking out centrepieces and calling the caterer (all of which happened after he was born anyway).

My judgment of the day is of a FB friend who has a little girl a couple of weeks younger than Lily.  This woman is STILL posting photos on FB in an album titled "The life of XXX in her first year" - your kid isn't in her first year anymore!  Start a new f'ucking album!  I know it's not a big deal, but it seriously drives me crazy every time she posts new photos (which is several times a week).

rubysue267

christiney06:

I judge parents who use FB to get free babysitters all the time.  I have a friend who posts  "can anyone watch X for a few hours tomorrow?" At least 2-3x a month.  One of these days I'm going to reply with , www.care.com. 

I have a "friend" on FB who still hasn't learned to drive and is a SAHM. She posts almost every other day asking if anyone is free to pick them up and help her get the girls out of the house. Then when no one responds she's all, "the girls are being so bad! cabin fever!!" Um, how's about you get your driver's license? For the record, they live in a rural area and she doesn't have any impairment that makes her ineligible to drive. She just "doesn't have the time" to go to the DMV to take her test.

pennysuedog

lisamonkee11:

SuperDeDuper:

rubysue267:

That last bit is the same argument the NRA is making about gun laws. "Criminals won't follow gun laws so why bother having them?" Argument makes no sense.

I don't understand why everyone thinks gun laws are so great.  I don't have enough faith in my government to give away my rights.  Gun laws are infringing on our right to bare arms.   The amendment was put into to place not just so you have a weapon to protect yourself, defend your country, but also so the people have a means to overthrow the government if they have been oppressed (revolution).

No, I'm not a whack job, but I think as Americans we take for granted the comforts and peace of this country.  Criminals will use whatever means necessary to get or do what they want, so I don't know why we would make laws to restrict law-abiding citizens.

 

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pennysuedog:

I don't understand why everyone thinks gun laws are so great.  I don't have enough faith in my government to give away my rights.  Gun laws are infringing on our right to bare arms.   The amendment was put into to place not just so you have a weapon to protect yourself, defend your country, but also so the people have a means to overthrow the government if they have been oppressed (revolution).

This argument made sense in the 1780s, but it just doesn't hold anymore.  Unless you think private citizens should be allowed to own tanks and nuclear weapons.  And if you do, well...you have more faith in humanity than I do.

Also, I kind of don't give a siht what the founding fathers thought would be right for this country.  They're dead, we're not, we win.  If their beliefs are no longer relevant to our nation, they shouldn't dictate how we write our laws.

KrisM86

pennysuedog:

lisamonkee11:

SuperDeDuper:

rubysue267:

That last bit is the same argument the NRA is making about gun laws. "Criminals won't follow gun laws so why bother having them?"

Argument makes no sense.

I don't understand why everyone thinks gun laws are so great.  I don't have enough faith in my government to give away my rights.  Gun laws are infringing on our right to bare arms.   The amendment was put into to place not just so you have a weapon to protect yourself, defend your country, but also so the people have a means to overthrow the government if they have been oppressed (revolution).

No, I'm not a whack job, but I think as Americans we take for granted the comforts and peace of this country.  Criminals will use whatever means necessary to get or do what they want, so I don't know why we would make laws to restrict law-abiding citizens.

 

Penny, I agree that people should have a right to own guns, but assault weapons? That's another issue in my opinion. When we allow anyone to own weapons designed solely to kill mass amounts of people, where to we draw that line? Should hand grenades be legal for your average citizen, too? I don't think so.

lisamonkee11

I also think people in general should have the right to own guns, I just think it should be a little more cumbersome to get one. That way, the people who want to buy them on the spur of the moment for nefarious purposes, simply can't. There should be tests required as well, like a drivers license test.
Far too many accidents happen because people don't know how to use them safely.

missyishere

The hills are alive with the sound of gun cox.

pennysuedog

overture:

pennysuedog:

I don't understand why everyone thinks gun laws are so great.  I don't have enough faith in my government to give away my rights.  Gun laws are infringing on our right to bare arms.   The amendment was put into to place not just so you have a weapon to protect yourself, defend your country, but also so the people have a means to overthrow the government if they have been oppressed (revolution).

This argument made sense in the 1780s, but it just doesn't hold anymore.  Unless you think private citizens should be allowed to own tanks and nuclear weapons.  And if you do, well...you have more faith in humanity than I do.

Also, I kind of don't give a siht what the founding fathers thought would be right for this country.  They're dead, we're not, we win.  If their beliefs are no longer relevant to our nation, they shouldn't dictate how we write our laws.

I think that you should care about what the founding fathers thought.  If they just slapped this country together it would have never survived.  Not all things from 1780 are irreverent, human nature has not changed.  Why should I care about Newton, Einstein, Gandhi, they are all dead too. 

Your way of thinking scares the *** out of me. Do you think our generation has the right to just mow down the last 227 years?

I have way more faith in humanity than our current government not excluding any administration.  

BTW: I never said we would win that revolution, but give us a fighting chance at least

 

 

lisamonkee11

Lol Packerfan! That's great!

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pennysuedog:

I think that you should care about what the founding fathers thought.  If they just slapped this country together it would have never survived.  Not all things from 1780 are irreverent, human nature has not changed.  Why should I care about Newton, Einstein, Gandhi, they are all dead too. 

Your way of thinking scares the *** out of me. Do you think our generation has the right to just mow down the last 227 years?

The founding fathers mowed down 1000 years of British royal history and based a nation off of political theories that were less than 100 years old.  And if you look at the history of the constitutional convention, well...they did kind of slap it together.

I said if beliefs are no longer relevant to our nation, we have the right to get rid of them.  That's not the same thing as having no respect for what they did.  I mean...I don't have to believe that black people are 3/5 of a person either.

We don't owe the founding fathers anything.  We have the right to change our world just like they did.

missyishere

Packerfan79:

Also, I'm judging groupon for including this in its fathers day deals promo:https://www.groupon.com/deals/ancestrybydna7?p=12amp;utm_source=channel_occasions_FD1dealsamp;utm_medium=emailamp;sid=e4ee0ce69a80425c9507a151829eef34amp;division=washingtondcamp;user=78709c8e41166c6fa1218de29782419535f2520cd36224b7cef40de8f815443aamp;date=20130530amp;s=bodyamp;c=buttonamp;d=groupon_occasions_deal It's a DNA testing kit.

Dudes need to know if they should celebrate the holiday or not...

ally510

I think that you should care about what the founding fathers thought.  If they just slapped this country together it would have never survived.  Not all things from 1780 are irreverent, human nature has not changed.  Why should I care about Newton, Einstein, Gandhi, they are all dead too. 

Your way of thinking scares the *** out of me. Do you think our generation has the right to just mow down the last 227 years?

I have way more faith in humanity than our current government not excluding any administration.  

BTW: I never said we would win that revolution, but give us a fighting chance at least

 

The founding fathers wrote the Constitution as a "living document." They had the wisdom to understand that if could not evolve with society, it would certainly fail. For example, through the amendment process, rights have been expanded to include more than just property-owning white men. While not all things from 1780 are irrelevant (i.e. democratic ideals, etc..), our society is vastly different and our generation has the right to amend the Constitution to reflect those differences as that is what our founding fathers intended. The idea that Americans need to arm themselves to protect themselves from the government is about as relevant as slavery.   

ETA: Quoting fail...I tried to trim the tree somehow messed it up. 

 

amyc216

I want to judge MH.  He's off today and went up to his parents' with DS.  I texted him to see how it's going and he replied, "Good I guess I'm at the lake." My nephews were up at the ILs too and he took them out in his boat for however long. Umm.... Ok, you just left DS with your mom and obviously haven't checked in?   This may not be a big deal to some, but I'm annoyed.  Plus, it baffles me that after nearly 20 months he's never kept DS at home, by himself for a whole day.  If I am not around he always goes to his parents or has his mom come over. 

Ms.Jade

SuperDeDuper:

I think seatbelt laws for adults are stupid.  I 100% support laws saying that children must be belted, in proper carseats or booster seats, and that adults who perhaps cannot make decisions for themselves need their caretakers to belt them in etc, but for the most part when you're over 18 I think you should be allowed to make the decision for yourself.  If you're stupid enough to not buckle up then that's your own fault.

This was sparked by the signs around the cities saying 'increased seatbelt enforcement this weekend'.  I just wonder how much money and manpower has been wasted making those laws and enforcing them when there are plenty of (IMO) more important issues we should be addressing.

And yes, I always wear a seatbelt and anyone in my car must wear a seatbelt at all times.

I can think of a bigger waste of money - our tax dollars going to all of the police and firefighters who have to scrape the brains of people who don't wear their seat belts off of our highways. The complete infrastructure jam caused by the increase in injury accidents and vehicular deaths. The massive amounts of unpaid healthcare bills due to the uptick in people needing emergency services but unable to pay their hospital bills. Basically financial ruin for our municipalities.