UO Thursday

leaveamessage · May 2013

this is 1 example

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/74315417.aspx

leaveamessage · May 2013

another example

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/74225072.aspx

Pokedot · May 2013

hmp&mrj:
cheeseandrice:
Pokedot:
I can't stand when I see men/boys in general cross their legs like a woman. It looks so wrong! Especially grown men. I wonder if they actually have something between their legs that would even allow them to do that if you know what I mean. I just looks SO wrong!
uh.
lol, I missed this one.
I remember reading a workplace etiquette article that specifically said for men to sit with their knees close together or crossed at the knee. Do not sit with your knees spread or your foot on your knee.

Interesting! I mean full on crossing their legs with one knee on top of the other. I don't know why it's always bugged me. I'd rather have them sit with their foot on their knee than literally cross legged.

Hyaline · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
I can't stand when people say someone else is taking advantage of the system. The system exists for a reason. If you qualify for the system, you get the system. That in itself is 'taking advantage'. It's there, if you take it. If you don't take it, it's still there. For the next guy.

I think we're talking about two different connotations of "taking advantage." In what you mean, you qualify, so you claim what's yours per the rules. I know what I mean when I say "taking advantage," it's more like "taking the system for a ride." The person has bent the truth to fit the rules or found loopholes to exploit. It's using the system for a purpose it's not intended for. Maybe you say that's fair, because they figured out how to use it, but I think it's unfair and lacking respect for those for whom the assistance was created.

Like if you drive a disabled parent around, so have a handicap sticker, but you go ahead and park in handicap spots when you're not driving her, because you can. That's taking the system for a ride and in my not-very-precise terminology, I'd call it "taking advantage."

MainelyFoolish · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
If it covers your a'ss, it's pants. This includes leggings, yoga pants, etc. I'm not putting on jeans and sweater to go buy bananas. Eff that. I'll wear what I've got on. If that means no bra, throw on a hoodie to cover up your nipples.

If I can see your panties, it's not pants. I've seen too many people wearing leggings as pants that are see-through. I don't need to be able to tell the color of your panties if I'm standing in line behind you in a store.

Pokedot · May 2013

LoveLossHopeRepeat:
Pokedot:
hmp&mrj:
cheeseandrice:
Pokedot:
I can't stand when I see men/boys in general cross their legs like a woman. It looks so wrong! Especially grown men. I wonder if they actually have something between their legs that would even allow them to do that if you know what I mean. I just looks SO wrong!
uh.
lol, I missed this one.
I remember reading a workplace etiquette article that specifically said for men to sit with their knees close together or crossed at the knee. Do not sit with your knees spread or your foot on your knee.
Interesting! I mean full on crossing their legs with one knee on top of the other. I don't know why it's always bugged me. I'd rather have them sit with their foot on their knee than literally cross legged.
This is an utterly bizarre complaint to me. I cannot fathom giving two shiits about how someone else crosses their legs, or assuming something about them because of it.

I can agree with you on the bolded however it's not really a complaint more of an opinion. Will I judge the type of person they are based on how they sit? No but I find it weird that a man would sit this way. That is my own personal opinion. I don't go around looking for men who sit this way and then go home and ponder about the situation. I see it, I find it weird, I move on.

Pokedot · May 2013

Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:
I can't stand when people say someone else is taking advantage of the system. The system exists for a reason. If you qualify for the system, you get the system. That in itself is 'taking advantage'. It's there, if you take it. If you don't take it, it's still there. For the next guy.
I think we're talking about two different connotations of "taking advantage." In what you mean, you qualify, so you claim what's yours per the rules. I know what I mean when I say "taking advantage," it's more like "taking the system for a ride." The person has bent the truth to fit the rules or found loopholes to exploit. It's using the system for a purpose it's not intended for. Maybe you say that's fair, because they figured out how to use it, but I think it's unfair and lacking respect for those for whom the assistance was created.
Like if you drive a disabled parent around, so have a handicap sticker, but you go ahead and park in handicap spots when you're not driving her, because you can. That's taking the system for a ride and in my not-very-precise terminology, I'd call it "taking advantage."

LL commented right after my post so I'm assuming this is directed "toward" that in the fact that I said "taking advantage of the system." I see her side but I'm with you Hyaline. You said it perfectly! The person driving that truck obviously found a loophole and in turn is taking advantage of that fact. Much like the guy who can't work because he has back problems and is on disability but he's putting on a new roof!

KTC926 · May 2013

Pokedot:
Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:
I can't stand when people say someone else is taking advantage of the system. The system exists for a reason. If you qualify for the system, you get the system. That in itself is 'taking advantage'. It's there, if you take it. If you don't take it, it's still there. For the next guy.
I think we're talking about two different connotations of "taking advantage."  In what you mean, you qualify, so you claim what's yours per the rules.  I know what I mean when I say "taking advantage," it's more like "taking the system for a ride."  The person has bent the truth to fit the rules or found loopholes to exploit.  It's using the system for a purpose it's not intended for.  Maybe you say that's fair, because they figured out how to use it, but I think it's unfair and lacking respect for those for whom the assistance was created. 
Like if you drive a disabled parent around, so have a handicap sticker, but you go ahead and park in handicap spots when you're not driving her, because you can.  That's taking the system for a ride and in my not-very-precise terminology, I'd call it "taking advantage." 
LL commented right after my post so I'm assuming this is directed "toward" that in the fact that I said "taking advantage of the system." I see her side but I'm with you Hyaline. You said it perfectly! The person driving that truck obviously found a loophole and in turn is taking advantage of that fact. Much like the guy who can't work because he has back problems and is on disability but he's putting on a new roof!

Roofing on disability isn't taking advantage of the system its fraud

Pokedot · May 2013

KTC926:
Pokedot:
Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:
I can't stand when people say someone else is taking advantage of the system. The system exists for a reason. If you qualify for the system, you get the system. That in itself is 'taking advantage'. It's there, if you take it. If you don't take it, it's still there. For the next guy.
I think we're talking about two different connotations of "taking advantage." In what you mean, you qualify, so you claim what's yours per the rules. I know what I mean when I say "taking advantage," it's more like "taking the system for a ride." The person has bent the truth to fit the rules or found loopholes to exploit. It's using the system for a purpose it's not intended for. Maybe you say that's fair, because they figured out how to use it, but I think it's unfair and lacking respect for those for whom the assistance was created.
Like if you drive a disabled parent around, so have a handicap sticker, but you go ahead and park in handicap spots when you're not driving her, because you can. That's taking the system for a ride and in my not-very-precise terminology, I'd call it "taking advantage."
LL commented right after my post so I'm assuming this is directed "toward" that in the fact that I said "taking advantage of the system." I see her side but I'm with you Hyaline. You said it perfectly! The person driving that truck obviously found a loophole and in turn is taking advantage of that fact. Much like the guy who can't work because he has back problems and is on disability but he's putting on a new roof!
Roofing on disability isn't taking advantage of the system its fraud

Very true!

MarisaKathleen · May 2013

mrssqueegy:

linzeek44:
mrssqueegy:
I love pictures of people nursing their babies.
Now I know who will want to see my fancy nursing photos. ;] knew I could count on Squeegy. I like nursing photos too, but I understand why some people don't. I'm sad I don't have any good ones, so im getting some since a photographer is coming to a BFing group playdate. I spend a lot of time giving him solids and have tons of photos, and so much time playing and have tons of photos. I spend so much of my time nursing but don't have any...but I will. And there will be very little boob and no nip involved.

I would love to see them. I have a ton of selfie ones, but we were recently out for a hike in the woods and I made DH take some nicer ones. My mom always regretted never having any pictures of her nursing her kids so I didn't want to have that same regret. I honestly would never post my pics on the internet because of my job and to me those photos are private even though I do NIP without a cover sometimes.

I agree with you here--I think there are some pictures that should be private. I think posting them online is tacky. How special and personal of a bonding experience can it be if you're sharing it with a bunch of online strangers? I think sex is a beautiful, personal, bonding thing with my DH. I wouldn't post pictures of that on the internet either. There are some things I wish people could keep private and enjoy with those they love, not everyone in cyberspace.

leaveamessage · May 2013

lois, are people on the internet not allowed to have a differing opinion than yours ?

MrsAB1316 · May 2013

8 pages and all I got out of this whole post was that I need a tomato sandwich. And yes...Angelina AND Brad are both skankbots.

MrsAB1316 · May 2013

Haha. TB put my post on page 9. Well played, TB. Well Played.

MrsAB1316 · May 2013

MiraskTastic:
MrsAB1316:
8 pages and all I got out of this whole post was that I need a tomato sandwich. And yes...Angelina AND Brad are both skankbots.
please tell me more about this sandwich. What else is on it? 

I put mayo, salt, pepper and tomato on mine...on white bread. It's pretty fantastic. Not sure how pp's grandma makes hers but that's how I make mine.

KellersPrag · May 2013

MrsAB1316:
8 pages and all I got out of this whole post was that I need a tomato sandwich. And yes...Angelina AND Brad are both skankbots.

Hyaline · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
I'm going to walk away now.

:::turns around, yelling profanities about how difficult it is to get on disability:::

I'M REALLY LEAVING THIS PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION NOW.

You know I like you, LL, but this kind of thing gets under my skin. I posted what I thought was a reasonable point in the spirit of engaging you in a conversation that you sorta started (or at least pulled out a tangent from another convo).

I get that maybe you were directing this at someone else, but I still feel kinda like I just got yelled at so you could get the last word in, and was then told the conversation was over with no further explanation. It feels kinda disrespectful. I get that this stuff is personal for you and hits a nerve, but I think you know I'm not trying to push your buttons, so maybe I deserve a little consideration on that point?

leaveamessage · May 2013

lois, I dont mean to offend you but having a job where you work with disability does not make you a know it all about the subject.

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

MrsAB1316:
8 pages and all I got out of this whole post was that I need a tomato sandwich. And yes...Angelina AND Brad are both skankbots.

And I don't want to see your breasts.

leaveamessage · May 2013

your reaction to any person bringing up disability is one of immaturity.

mrsbhk22 · May 2013

SharkFarts:
redneckmomma25:
mrssqueegy:
I love pictures of people nursing their babies.

I don't. Especially if there is nipple involved. I have no desire to see your boobs. Even less of a desire to see your nipple. I don't care if there is a kid attached or not. I do not want to know what your boobs look like or your nipples.
AMEN

I think this is in reference to BFing pictures on IG. Correct me if im wrong. Do you also get annoyed when people post pictures wearing low cut shirts? Because a boob is a boob. I'm not ballsy enough to post BFing pictures on line, but when I nurse, you can't see boob. DD head is bigger than my boobs! Maybe that should be my FFFC???

Hyaline · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:

I'm going to walk away now.

:::turns around, yelling profanities about how difficult it is to get on disability:::

I'M REALLY LEAVING THIS PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION NOW.

You know I like you, LL, but this kind of thing gets under my skin. I posted what I thought was a reasonable point in the spirit of engaging you in a conversation that you sorta started (or at least pulled out a tangent from another convo).

I get that maybe you were directing this at someone else, but I still feel kinda like I just got yelled at so you could get the last word in, and was then told the conversation was over with no further explanation. It feels kinda disrespectful. I get that this stuff is personal for you and hits a nerve, but I think you know I'm not trying to push your buttons, so maybe I deserve a little consideration on that point?

It wasn't directed at you at all. I didn't want to engage in another 5 pages of skittles talk over what Poke said about disability (like back pain getting disability) and the response by whoever it was about fraud.

Fair enough.

Now you've got me wanting Skittles. Da.mn you, Lois.

Pokedot · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:

I'm going to walk away now.

:::turns around, yelling profanities about how difficult it is to get on disability:::

I'M REALLY LEAVING THIS PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION NOW.

You know I like you, LL, but this kind of thing gets under my skin. I posted what I thought was a reasonable point in the spirit of engaging you in a conversation that you sorta started (or at least pulled out a tangent from another convo).

I get that maybe you were directing this at someone else, but I still feel kinda like I just got yelled at so you could get the last word in, and was then told the conversation was over with no further explanation. It feels kinda disrespectful. I get that this stuff is personal for you and hits a nerve, but I think you know I'm not trying to push your buttons, so maybe I deserve a little consideration on that point?

It wasn't directed at you at all. I didn't want to engage in another 5 pages of skittles talk over what Poke said about disability (like back pain getting disability) and the response by whoever it was about fraud.

LL I would never direct a comment of disability/back pain at anyone. I was actually thinking of a specific person I know IRL. I totally realize that back pain is a disability. My dad has horrible back problems from an accident on the job. I never said that people with back "pain" shouldn't get disability. I merely said this "Much like the guy who can't work because he has back problems and is on disability but he's putting on a new roof." I'm sorry but if you have back problems that prove you should be on disability you shouldn't be putting on a new roof ::example:: End.of.story!

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

mrsbhk22:
SharkFarts:
redneckmomma25:
mrssqueegy:
I love pictures of people nursing their babies.

I don't. Especially if there is nipple involved. I have no desire to see your boobs. Even less of a desire to see your nipple. I don't care if there is a kid attached or not. I do not want to know what your boobs look like or your nipples.
AMEN

I think this is in reference to BFing pictures on IG. Correct me if im wrong. Do you also get annoyed when people post pictures wearing low cut shirts? Because a boob is a boob. I'm not ballsy enough to post BFing pictures on line, but when I nurse, you can't see boob. DD head is bigger than my boobs! Maybe that should be my FFFC???

Did you read all my posts??

mrsbhk22 · May 2013

MiraskTastic:
LoisLayn23:
If there is infidelity in your marriage, I think you have to look at what happened and why to make him/her step out and take responsibility for that. Is it your fault that he cheated/texted/had a ONS? No. But at some point, communication or connection or intimacy broke down and that led to the infidelity.
I think it's entirely possible to rebuild ANY marriage if you are both willing to try and work at it. But it takes finding out where the disconnect was and rebuilding it every single day or it'll never work.

Agree. 100

Agree. I've always heard the saying you can't make a happy person cheat. We make the other woman out to be the villain, but the guy is really the d bag in my book.

MrsAB1316 · May 2013

redneckmomma25:
MrsAB1316:
8 pages and all I got out of this whole post was that I need a tomato sandwich. And yes...Angelina AND Brad are both skankbots.

And I don't want to see your breasts.

Oh, but I assure you...you do. ::winky face since mobile sucks::

Except that they are nowhere near as nice as they were before having a baby.

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:
Hyaline:
LoisLayn23:

I'm going to walk away now.

:::turns around, yelling profanities about how difficult it is to get on disability:::

I'M REALLY LEAVING THIS PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION NOW.

You know I like you, LL, but this kind of thing gets under my skin.  I posted what I thought was a reasonable point in the spirit of engaging you in a conversation that you sorta started (or at least pulled out a tangent from another convo).

I get that maybe you were directing this at someone else, but I still feel kinda like I just got yelled at so you could get the last word in, and was then told the conversation was over with no further explanation.  It feels kinda disrespectful.  I get that this stuff is personal for you and hits a nerve, but I think you know I'm not trying to push your buttons, so maybe I deserve a little consideration on that point? 

It wasn't directed at you at all. I didn't want to engage in another 5 pages of skittles talk over what Poke said about disability (like back pain getting disability) and the response by whoever it was about fraud.

 
 Fair enough.
Now you've got me wanting Skittles. Da.mn you, Lois.   

Mobile so not shorting the quote tree sorry. I just checked the ww points on skittles.

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

Fftc I don't like raw tomatoes. Wish I did though.

mrsbhk22 · May 2013

redneckmomma25:
mrsbhk22:
SharkFarts:
redneckmomma25:
mrssqueegy:
I love pictures of people nursing their babies.

I don't. Especially if there is nipple involved. I have no desire to see your boobs. Even less of a desire to see your nipple. I don't care if there is a kid attached or not. I do not want to know what your boobs look like or your nipples.
AMEN

I think this is in reference to BFing pictures on IG. Correct me if im wrong. Do you also get annoyed when people post pictures wearing low cut shirts? Because a boob is a boob. I'm not ballsy enough to post BFing pictures on line, but when I nurse, you can't see boob. DD head is bigger than my boobs! Maybe that should be my FFFC???

Did you read all my posts??

Sorry! I just went back and re read. Honesty, I thought I read all 9 pages, but I think my eyes glazed over and I started dreaming about fountain coke from McDonald's around pages 5 or 6.

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

mrsbhk22:
redneckmomma25:
mrsbhk22:

Sorry! I just went back and re read. Honesty, I thought I read all 9 pages, but I think my eyes glazed over and I started dreaming about fountain coke from McDonald's around pages 5 or 6.

It's fine. I'm just pretty sure I touched on it.

MarisaKathleen · May 2013

LoisLayn23:

Disability isn't like going down and signing up for WIC. It's involved, it's difficult, and it's time consuming and confusing. If they are on disability, it's for a well documented reason.

Poke, I can see how your specific example would grind your gears. But being on disability doesn't mean you can't function, it just means you have been deemed unable to work enough hours to care for yourself.

It took 2 years for my Dad to get disability. It's a process I hope to never have to go through again because of all the stress it caused my parents. Bleh. I'm sure it can be done, but by and large I would guess it's much more difficult getting on disability than on state assistance.

MrsAB1316 · May 2013

anitalynn:
And the tomatoes need to be really truly ripe. Not chemically ripened like so many of the crappy tomatoes in most grocery stores. Tomatoes with flavor, like you can taste the sun that ripened them. How's that for foodporn my friends? Yum.

Yep. Hence the 50 tomato plants I my backyard. Sooooo ready for fried green tomatoes and ripe red tomato sammiches.

Pokedot · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
Disability isn't like going down and signing up for WIC. It's involved, it's difficult, and it's time consuming and confusing. If they are on disability, it's for a well documented reason.

Poke, I can see how your specific example would grind your gears. But being on disability doesn't mean you can't function, it just means you have been deemed unable to work enough hours to care for yourself.

And I also understand this LL! Yes I was using a specific example that completely grinds my gears. My BIL is another one but that's a whole other topic! This specific person can care for his himself and his family. I realize the system can't catch every scumbag out there that uses the system however I become super stabby when I see those that do, realize they do it and laugh it off like "someone" owes them ya know? I also feel bad for those who truly deserve it but can't get it for some reason. We have these programs in place to help those people who need it most. It's unfortunate that there can't be something out there to help and NOT have someone take advantage of it based on their own self-indulged "need."

Pokedot · May 2013

thechimichanga:
redneckmomma25:
Fftc I don't like raw tomatoes. Wish I did though.
I can only eat tomatoes in certain situations.
Whole, only on a Club Sub.
Diced in wraps
Pico de gallo
and salsa.
that is it.
I will pick them off of my food in every other situation.

Same except the club sandwich part! I do however like sundried tomatoes which DH finds so weird. Oh and ketchup but that's totally different IMO!

redneckmomma25 · May 2013

Pokedot:
thechimichanga:
redneckmomma25:
Fftc I don't like raw tomatoes. Wish I did though.
I can only eat tomatoes in certain situations.
Whole, only on a Club Sub.
Diced in wraps
Pico de gallo
and salsa.
that is it.
I will pick them off of my food in every other situation.
Same except the club sandwich part! I do however like sundried tomatoes which DH finds so weird. Oh and ketchup but that's totally different IMO!
 

I will eat them in salsa and guacamole.

hmp1 · May 2013

thechimichanga:
Pokedot:
And I also understand this LL! Yes I was using a specific example that completely grinds my gears. My BIL is another one but that's a whole other topic! This specific person can care for his himself and his family. I realize the system can't catch every scumbag out there that uses the system however I become super stabby when I see those that do, realize they do it and laugh it off like "someone" owes them ya know? I also feel bad for those who truly deserve it but can't get it for some reason. We have these programs in place to help those people who need it most. It's unfortunate that there can't be something out there to help and NOT have someone take advantage of it based on their own self-indulged "need."
Yes, there are people on disability that probably CAN sustain themselves. At one point, they couldn't. If you know for a fact they can, than they should be reported for fraud.
People do slip through the cracks, and its people like that who make it that much harder for people who actually NEED the services.
But honestly, getting disability is insanely hard, INSANE.

This! I have said it before and I will say it again. Instead of biitching to us that you know someone that for sure doesn't qualify for the assistance they are getting, do something about it ffs.

Flamingemu · May 2013

thechimichanga:
LoisLayn23:
MiraskTastic:
or, he really does have back problems that qualify for disability, but still chooses to work on his roof.

That's the beauty of it, it can be both!
My dad is allowed to work X amount of hours for X amount of dollars when he feels well enough and can still collect disability...he is probably a solid year a way from that.
I thought that was pretty interesting, actually. His disability check is by no means enough to sustain a normal life in the northeast, I can tell you that much.

This is my grandfather. He hurt his back and knees in an accident and was no longer able to do his job in the manner needed. He got on disability and when he was healed enough, went back to work on an alternate work schedule so he could work at his own pace. The AWS by no means pays enough for him to sustain a life in NJ so he remains on disability - within the constraints provided.

Flamingemu · May 2013

Also - mmm...tomato sandwiches. The only reason we ever buy Wonder Bread.

KellersPrag · May 2013

thechimichanga:
LoisLayn23:
MiraskTastic:
or, he really does have back problems that qualify for disability, but still chooses to work on his roof.

That's the beauty of it, it can be both!
My dad is allowed to work X amount of hours for X amount of dollars when he feels well enough and can still collect disability...he is probably a solid year a way from that.
I thought that was pretty interesting, actually. His disability check is by no means enough to sustain a normal life in the northeast, I can tell you that much.

Yes. My dad has been on disability for almost my whole life (he broke his back, and has multiple sclerosis, and complications) and his disability income is less than $10k a year.

Flamingemu · May 2013

LoisLayn23:
IndigoVader:

LoisLayn23:
Disability means you are unable to work for a year or more. Stage 4 cancer = disability. Stroke=disability. Not that you can't function in society. It just means you can't work at the job or a similar task to what you were doing prior to the injury.

My mother is disabled and they actually stalked her at the grocery store and took pictures of her pushing her grocery cart. She has had back surgery twice and while she can function, she can't do what her job requires her to do.

Back surgeries are no joke. My dad applied for disablity and was initially denied. He's a nurse but they said he could do a sitting down nursing job. WTF kind of nurse sits at a desk?

I had someone get her Medicare taken away because she was an amputee and they said she could be a greeter at Walmart.

That's nuts! On both accounts. Besides, greeters at Walmart have to stand too!

jbBeans · May 2013

So late. We had an epic walk.

re: NIPing and pics. I think hating on the normalize it hash tag is lame. If you don't like the pics, don't click on the tag. I think the point is more about supporting other NIPing moms. Hash tags pull together like minded people. I agree it might not change people's mind but that's not always the point. I do agree though that the best way to normalize it though is just to do it without fanfare.

I also think the term hero is overused. I wouldn't go so far as to say Angelina is a hero, but I think using her celebrity to bring to light a sensitive topic is admirable and I respect her for it. Perhaps if we have this dialogue, more women will be more comfortable considering this option and eventually more insurance companies will cover things like a preventative mastectomies.

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