Read me please.

AliciaS1411

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

in response to all the comments about taking Elliot around a "convicted sex offender". He was never convicted, only charged, he never served time, he was forced to register and do a few other things. I trust him, and I trust his wife. Elliot has never been left alone with anyone other than his grandparents anyway, so theres nothing to be concerned about.nbsp;

BS he is a registered SO you don't register if you aren't convicted. Stop the freakind lies!!!! It is all lies.

AG I am not lying about anything. He never served any time. People serve time when they're convicted of those types of crimes.

AliciaS1411

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

notkateanymore

amy052006:

This feels like a pile on but I need to know. You work with kids. Your DH works with kids. You post pictures of these kids in this forum. You admit you both socialize with a sex offender. How the hell do you not see this is poor judgment?

i agree. It's shows really bad judgement. You say you trust him...WHY? What has this man done to show you he is trustworthy? He's been convicted twice of being in possession of child porn...twice! Not once, but twice. Makes no sense that you would hang out with him. I can kind of see you being friends with his wife, but why in the world would y'all hang out as a family? 

AintNobodyGotTime

Alicia, do you seriously think anyone believes anything you say anymore? I still cannot believe you let all of us June ladies donate money to this scam artist friend of yours. You knew who she was and you knew the reason her husband couldn't get stable jobs was because he was a CONVICTED sex offender. Come on now.
waits for the return of Allison to come defend her bff

Andrewsgal

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

in response to all the comments about taking Elliot around a "convicted sex offender". He was never convicted, only charged, he never served time, he was forced to register and do a few other things. I trust him, and I trust his wife. Elliot has never been left alone with anyone other than his grandparents anyway, so theres nothing to be concerned about.nbsp;

BS he is a registered SO you don't register if you aren't convicted. Stop the freakind lies!!!! It is all lies.

AG I am not lying about anything. He never served any time. People serve time when they're convicted of those types of crimes.

holy hell he told you he did not serve time the paper and his sexoffender listing day different. WTH would you believe this idiot over the truth. You are not that dumb. Step down and be done with this.

mammersoh

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

in response to all the comments about taking Elliot around a "convicted sex offender". He was never convicted, only charged, he never served time, he was forced to register and do a few other things. I trust him, and I trust his wife. Elliot has never been left alone with anyone other than his grandparents anyway, so theres nothing to be concerned about.nbsp;

BS he is a registered SO you don't register if you aren't convicted. Stop the freakind lies!!!! It is all lies.

AG I am not lying about anything. He never served any time. People serve time when they're convicted of those types of crimes.

Lurker here, but he did get convicted! He obviously copped a plea and avoided jail time. Just because he didn't sit in a jail cell doesn't make what he did any less serious. How do you not see that?!

AliciaS1411

WhyyesthisisanAE:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

in response to all the comments about taking Elliot around a "convicted sex offender". He was never convicted, only charged, he never served time, he was forced to register and do a few other things. I trust him, and I trust his wife. Elliot has never been left alone with anyone other than his grandparents anyway, so theres nothing to be concerned about.nbsp;

BS he is a registered SO you don't register if you aren't convicted. Stop the freakind lies!!!! It is all lies.

THIS! I just pulled him up on the georgia SO registry. He was convicted. His conviction date is 1-20-09. Stop lying.

I don't know where you found that information, and I'm not going to argue whether or not it is true. If he was convicted, he was convicted, and I'm sorry I misspoke. I just know he never served anytime for anything, and I know that I trust them now. I believe that people can change, so if he ever did have a problem with this, It doesn't bear on how I feel about him now. 

Andrewsgal

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

I very angry sexual offenders of children make me angry. You are choosing to put E in a position to be sexually abused. You are defending this monster!

AliciaS1411

WhyyesthisisanAE:

AliciaS1411:

amy052006:

This feels like a pile on but I need to know. You work with kids. Your DH works with kids. You post pictures of these kids in this forum. You admit you both socialize with a sex offender. How the hell do you not see this is poor judgment?

You probably have socialized with a RSO before and not even know it. No one would be questioning anything if they didn't know he was registered. I trust him, I trust Allison, my DH trusts them both. My judgement on it isn't anyone's concern other than my families. 

Well actually you and your H work with children. Is the school aware that you socialize with a registered SO, and that you post pictures of their children in an online message forum?

The ONE time I posted a photo of my guard I had their permission. And my guard doesn't have anything to do with a school, they're independent.  So it really doesn't matter. 

andrewsmom12

AliciaS1411:

WhyyesthisisanAE:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

in response to all the comments about taking Elliot around a "convicted sex offender". He was never convicted, only charged, he never served time, he was forced to register and do a few other things. I trust him, and I trust his wife. Elliot has never been left alone with anyone other than his grandparents anyway, so theres nothing to be concerned about.nbsp;

BS he is a registered SO you don't register if you aren't convicted. Stop the freakind lies!!!! It is all lies.

THIS! I just pulled him up on the georgia SO registry. He was convicted. His conviction date is 1-20-09. Stop lying.

I don't know where you found that information, and I'm not going to argue whether or not it is true. If he was convicted, he was convicted, and I'm sorry I misspoke. I just know he never served anytime for anything, and I know that I trust them now. I believe that people can change, so if he ever did have a problem with this, It doesn't bear on how I feel about him now. 

He absolutely did serve time. Why is that what you're hung up on? As though its not that bad if he didn't serve time...which he did.  

nrjones728

I'm new to this board, although not the bump.  I don't have time to read all of the drama that will ensue here, but I will say that I think you need to step down as mod.  The facts/evidence is clear.  You are not the type of person who should be in a leadership role.  If I'm going to feel comfortable posting on this board you need to step down.

AliciaS1411

amy052006:

AliciaS1411:

amy052006:

This feels like a pile on but I need to know. You work with kids. Your DH works with kids. You post pictures of these kids in this forum. You admit you both socialize with a sex offender. How the hell do you not see this is poor judgment?

You probably have socialized with a RSO before and not even know it. No one would be questioning anything if they didn't know he was registered. I trust him, I trust Allison, my DH trusts them both. My judgement on it isn't anyone's concern other than my families. 

Well, no shiit. People at questioning your judgment because you DID know. And the fact you publicly share photos of othe people's minor children online.

When have I shared photos of minors online other than the one photo I posted of my guard girls? 

roxy_jj

With the info that was posted yesterday, it's very easy to look up that he was convicted.  You really have your head in the sand about this, don't you?

Andrewsgal

Your H is a freaking teacher not smart for him to be hanging around a registers SO or for his wife to be defending one.

nesenotes

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

Lurker from July12 but I dont think she is too angry. I think you dont want to deal with the backlash of your stupidity and poor judgement.

I agree, you need to take a break, step down, and go away. This whole thing is awful. Do what you want away from TB where there are innocent babies.  

AliciaS1411

Andrewsgal:

And for the love of God stop posting pictures of other people's kids for this guy to look at.

where have I posted photos of other peoples kids?

Minipenguin

AliciaS1411:

WhyyesthisisanAE:

AliciaS1411:

amy052006:

This feels like a pile on but I need to know. You work with kids. Your DH works with kids. You post pictures of these kids in this forum. You admit you both socialize with a sex offender. How the hell do you not see this is poor judgment?

You probably have socialized with a RSO before and not even know it. No one would be questioning anything if they didn't know he was registered. I trust him, I trust Allison, my DH trusts them both. My judgement on it isn't anyone's concern other than my families. 

Well actually you and your H work with children. Is the school aware that you socialize with a registered SO, and that you post pictures of their children in an online message forum?

The ONE time I posted a photo of my guard I had their permission. And my guard doesn't have anything to do with a school, they're independent.  So it really doesn't matter. 

 

There are atleast two pictures of them here:

 

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/72252410.aspx

AliciaS1411

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

I very angry sexual offenders of children make me angry. You are choosing to put E in a position to be sexually abused. You are defending this monster!

I'm not putting ihm in a position to be abused. We saw them for a couple of hours, all of which Elliot was with me and his dad the entire time. We will see them again, but again, my child has never been alone with anyone that isn't family. 

roxy_jj

nowababy:

You guys, I hate to be the one to say this and I'm certainly not defending Alicia, but people take plea bargains all.the.time. for things they are not guilty of. Admittedly, given what we know, it seems like this guy is a creep and a sex offender, but we just don't know the whole situation and I think whether or not Alicia decides to socialize with this person isn't the issue at all and really is between her and her family. I most likely wouldn't be friends with these people, but I don't care if Alicia is. She's a grown woman and can pick her own friends.

And I don't know the whole story about the June board, but if this Allison needed financial or emotional help, then I don't know if it matters that she's married to a sex offender. Women are in shitty situations like this all the time and some kindness can go a long way towards helping them build up the courage to leave. We also don't know if the husband has been through any rehab or what his deal is now. People who are convicted of crimes have a hard time getting back on their feet. If he's trying to get his act together then I just don't know that what Alicia did is wrong... except for the part where she lied about it. Again, I just don't feel like we know the situation and I don't know that we can judge on this fact alone. I do think, based on what I've read here only, that Alicia could have handled the situation much better.

To me it's more about the drama, immaturity, what we assume is lying and lack of common sense when it comes to message boards. And I'm also NOT cool with posting pics of other people's children on a public message board.

I agree that people take plea bargains for crimes they didn't commit, but that wasn't the first time it happened.  He was also dishonorably discharged from the military for child porn. 

Andrewsgal

Your color guard girls are someone's kids.

You know what? I am mad as hell. This guy was looking at pictures of kids my DDs age. You are defending him!!!

WhyyesthisisanAE

Alicia you have a PM from me with proof of his conviction and proof he served time. Hopefully now you can get your head out of the sand.

AliciaS1411

Minipenguin:

AliciaS1411:

WhyyesthisisanAE:

AliciaS1411:

amy052006:

This feels like a pile on but I need to know. You work with kids. Your DH works with kids. You post pictures of these kids in this forum. You admit you both socialize with a sex offender. How the hell do you not see this is poor judgment?

You probably have socialized with a RSO before and not even know it. No one would be questioning anything if they didn't know he was registered. I trust him, I trust Allison, my DH trusts them both. My judgement on it isn't anyone's concern other than my families. 

Well actually you and your H work with children. Is the school aware that you socialize with a registered SO, and that you post pictures of their children in an online message forum?

The ONE time I posted a photo of my guard I had their permission. And my guard doesn't have anything to do with a school, they're independent.  So it really doesn't matter. 

 

There are atleast two pictures of them here:

 

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/72252410.aspx

Thats ONE photos of my kids. A photo I had permission from them to post. The other photo is of ME, and the other girl was 21. 

roxy_jj

So, are you going to step down as mod?  I really think you should. 

AintNobodyGotTime

WhyyesthisisanAE:

Alicia you have a PM from me with proof of his conviction and proof he served time. Hopefully now you can get your head out of the sand.

i doubt it. All of us June girls have shown her these reports time and time again and she still chooses to make these poor choices.

Andrewsgal

People are questioning your judgement and rightly so. You are defending a sex offender twice convicted.

You love this drama don't you?

AliciaS1411

Ok then. Its obvious that I'm not wanted here anymore, and I will leave. 

To those of you that have always been nice to me, Thank you. I appreciate all of you and I have loved the time I've spent with you on the bump. I would consider many of you to be friends, and I thank you. 

I'm sorry for all the headache I've caused. 

nesenotes

CnAmom:

I'm just going to step away from this thread now. The fact that you are defending this guy is making me sick.

+1 its just disgusting 

WhyyesthisisanAE

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

I very angry sexual offenders of children make me angry. You are choosing to put E in a position to be sexually abused. You are defending this monster!

I'm not putting ihm in a position to be abused. We saw them for a couple of hours, all of which Elliot was with me and his dad the entire time. We will see them again, but again, my child has never been alone with anyone that isn't family. 

You are putting him in a position to be abused, whether or not you think you are. People can do sick things even with people around as a pp mentioned. And you are FB friends with is wife where you post pictures of your son! Seriously I'll bet everything that he has internet access.

CinemaGoddess

Alicia,  most molestations of children happen by people they know. 

You know this man is guilty.  You continue to bring your child around him. 

This is ridiculous.  Step down and I would heartily suggest that you leave TB completely.  You will not live this down.  You will always be "that" person, as will the woman with the RSO for a husband. 

If you want to socialize with him, please, for the love of God, don't take your child with you. 

 

Andrewsgal

WhyyesthisisanAE:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

I very angry sexual offenders of children make me angry. You are choosing to put E in a position to be sexually abused. You are defending this monster!

I'm not putting ihm in a position to be abused. We saw them for a couple of hours, all of which Elliot was with me and his dad the entire time. We will see them again, but again, my child has never been alone with anyone that isn't family. 

You are putting him in a position to be abused, whether or not you think you are. People can do sick things even with people around as a pp mentioned. And you are FB friends with is wife where you post pictures of your son! Seriously I'll bet everything that he has internet access.

Not to mention your blog has pictures of Elliot on the bath. You are handing your son to this guy on a silver platter.

WhyyesthisisanAE

Andrewsgal:

WhyyesthisisanAE:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

AliciaS1411:

Andrewsgal:

Lies lies and more lies. You are the victim and never did anything wrong.

I never said I didn't do anything wrong. If you read a few posts up, you'll see where i admitted that C&Ping the CIO post was wrong. 

I think you're too angry and need to step back for a little while. You're welcome to PM me as well. But I think you're way too angry right now. 

I very angry sexual offenders of children make me angry. You are choosing to put E in a position to be sexually abused. You are defending this monster!

I'm not putting ihm in a position to be abused. We saw them for a couple of hours, all of which Elliot was with me and his dad the entire time. We will see them again, but again, my child has never been alone with anyone that isn't family. 

You are putting him in a position to be abused, whether or not you think you are. People can do sick things even with people around as a pp mentioned. And you are FB friends with is wife where you post pictures of your son! Seriously I'll bet everything that he has internet access.

Not to mention your blog has pictures of Elliot on the bath. You are handing your son to this guy on a silver platter.

And not just to this creep, to every sicko with internet access. Its disgusting.

AintNobodyGotTime

CinemaGoddess:

Alicia,nbsp; most molestations of children happen by people they know.nbsp; You know this man is guilty.nbsp; You continue to bring your child around him.nbsp; This is ridiculous.nbsp; Step down and I would heartily suggest that you leave TB completely.nbsp; You will not live this down.nbsp; You will always be "that" person, as will the woman with the RSO for a husband.nbsp; If you want to socialize with him, please, for the love of God, don't take your child with you.nbsp; nbsp;

I second this, CG.

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nowababy:

You guys, I hate to be the one to say this and I'm certainly not defending Alicia, but people take plea bargains all.the.time. for things they are not guilty of. Admittedly, given what we know, it seems like this guy is a creep and a sex offender, but we just don't know the whole situation and I think whether or not Alicia decides to socialize with this person isn't the issue at all and really is between her and her family. I most likely wouldn't be friends with these people, but I don't care if Alicia is. She's a grown woman and can pick her own friends.And I don't know the whole story about the June board, but if this Allison needed financial or emotional help, then I don't know if it matters that she's married to a sex offender. Women are in shitty situations like this all the time and some kindness can go a long way towards helping them build up the courage to leave. We also don't know if the husband has been through any rehab or what his deal is now. People who are convicted of crimes have a hard time getting back on their feet. If he's trying to get his act together then I just don't know that what Alicia did is wrong... except for the part where she lied about it. Again, I just don't feel like we know the situation and I don't know that we can judge on this fact alone. I do think, based on what I've read here only, that Alicia could have handled the situation much better. To me it's more about the drama, immaturity, what we assume is lying and lack of common sense when it comes to message boards. And I'm also NOT cool with posting pics of other people's children on a public message board.

So, in your opinion, its a parent's business if they want to put their child in a position to be abused and no one else's? So if I hire a convicted child sex offender to babysit my kids, its okay because I said so?

Andrewsgal

Please answer my question. Will you please just step down as mod?

WhyyesthisisanAE

Also- Alicia I sent you a PM with proof of this guy's conviction and time served? Do you believe us now? Or are you still in denial?

chickaboo1974

quote user "AliciaS1411"

You probably have socialized with a RSO before and not even know it. No one would be questioning anything if they didn't know he was registered. I trust him, I trust Allison, my DH trusts them both. My judgement on it isn't anyone's concern other than my families. 

 

I mostly lurk and post a little but I need to give my opinions.... 

You like to play word games... convicted/took a plea- is no diffferent legally- he IS a sex offender and a thief.  He registered not willingly-no one would do that willingly unless it ment not going to jail or getting out earlier (SO fear jail because they know what goes on there). And why yes you know him-I am sure he is all charm and sweetness- ah yeah how the hell do you think these people are able to victimize children?  They are likeable and are PREDATORS hunting for those that are trusting and gullible!

I have a whole lot of issues with the bolded statement.... I have 2 RSO in my family- do I socialize with them? HELL NO.  I ban them from my life- so much so that my grandma tried to manipulate me into inviting them to my wedding with her threats of not attending- sorry didn't work.  I told her we would miss her- but they were not invited and if they showed up I would have them arrested- since there were police officers on my guest list.  Oh and yes I look at the registry for my area- I see NO ONE that I know or their spouse on the list- IF I did find someone on the list I would NOT be around that friend- the friendship would END.  I find that is the consquence that they must face. 

AS for your judgement- it is a concern of the parents of the girls that are on your drill team don't you think?

Tigger & pooh

Are you all sure he had pics/video of such a young child? Unfortunately my cousin was just convicted of child porn because he and his girlfriend naked photos back andforth. He is over 18 she is younger 15 and the parents pressed charges. He is now a registered sex offender and next month they will decide how much jail time he gets. I know when I hear the term child porn I think little kids but it isn't always. I don't know if that is explained on the registry site.

roxy_jj

It really makes me sad that you'll continue to bring your little boy around that creep.  Please take some time to think about what you're doing before you visit with that sex offender again. 

Andrewsgal

letranger:

Andrewsgal:

Please answer my question. Will you please just step down as mod?

Regardless she should just be removed. I don't understand holding on to pointless power but she is.

I agree.

WhyyesthisisanAE

Tigger & pooh:

Are you all sure he had pics/video of such a young child? Unfortunately my cousin was just convicted of child porn because he and his girlfriend naked photos back andforth. He is over 18 she is younger 15 and the parents pressed charges. He is now a registered sex offender and next month they will decide how much jail time he gets. I know when I hear the term child porn I think little kids but it isn't always. I don't know if that is explained on the registry site.

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He had pictures for ages 2-12