Planned parenthood

valerie4977

Time for my Christian voice to chime in. I feel very strongly that providing these types of drugs to young girls is sending them a message that I don't beleive in. Not all girls are raised in Christian homes where abstinence is taught from Gods word. So these girls who are already wandering lost in this world are being taught to not only have unbridled sex, but that by taking this drug will take away any sort of consequence. No, children are not a consequence but a blessing. But try to explain that to a scared young girl who is walking in the world without her Lord and Savior. Christians believe in God who forgives and loves us when we repent of our sins; teaching that to our children is our responsibility.

BLT20051

valerie4977:

Time for my Christian voice to chime in. I feel very strongly that providing these types of drugs to young girls is sending them a message that I don't beleive in. Not all girls are raised in Christian homes where abstinence is taught from Gods word. So these girls who are already wandering lost in this world are being taught to not only have unbridled sex, but that by taking this drug will take away any sort of consequence. No, children are not a consequence but a blessing. But try to explain that to a scared young girl who is walking in the world without her Lord and Savior. Christians believe in God who forgives and loves us when we repent of our sins; teaching that to our children is our responsibility.

I am a Christian and I believe God will forgive my sins of being selfish and choosing to take Plan B. Christians like you come off very high and mighty and holier than thou and honestly make the rest of us look close minded.

RissNRuss

valerie4977:

Time for my Christian voice to chime in. I feel very strongly that providing these types of drugs to young girls is sending them a message that I don't beleive in. Not all girls are raised in Christian homes where abstinence is taught from Gods word. So these girls who are already wandering lost in this world are being taught to not only have unbridled sex, but that by taking this drug will take away any sort of consequence. No, children are not a consequence but a blessing. But try to explain that to a scared young girl who is walking in the world without her Lord and Savior. Christians believe in God who forgives and loves us when we repent of our sins; teaching that to our children is our responsibility.

I agree with BLT, you are making Christians look bad here. I'm Jewish, and did not have sex as a teen. I know others brought up with no religion who did not have sex as a teen. Yes, faith often advocates abstinence until marriage, but morals and family strength can serve the same purpose. Not all non-Christians are sex slaving, depraved heathens. 

valerie4977

I wasn't expressing my opinions on other religions, only mine as a Christian and just that my heart and prayers go out to those who don't have God in their lives. I as a Christian love the Jewish people and support Israel. I don't know a lot about other religions, but I do pray and have love for everyone in this world regardless of where or if they worship. I didn't post to condemn a single soul, that is not my job, but to sit in silence wasn't an option either. Holier than thou isn't me either, I am the mouse in the corner so much of the time. But I do feel strongly protective over children who haven't been guided in their lives and wander through life without God. If they don't have someone at home that can help them, then why is it wrong for me to care? If they, so young, are too afraid of their parents to talk to about sexual matters, then what is the solution? Half handed drugs to end a "what if"? What about the STD factor? 

BLT20051

valerie4977:

I wasn't expressing my opinions on other religions, only mine as a Christian and just that my heart and prayers go out to those who don't have God in their lives. I as a Christian love the Jewish people and support Israel. I don't know a lot about other religions, but I do pray and have love for everyone in this world regardless of where or if they worship. I didn't post to condemn a single soul, that is not my job, but to sit in silence wasn't an option either. Holier than thou isn't me either, I am the mouse in the corner so much of the time. But I do feel strongly protective over children who haven't been guided in their lives and wander through life without God. If they don't have someone at home that can help them, then why is it wrong for me to care? If they, so young, are too afraid of their parents to talk to about sexual matters, then what is the solution? Half handed drugs to end a "what if"? What about the STD factor? 

So my opinion as another Christian doesn't count? Why do you get to speak for all Christians?

valerie4977

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

BLT20051

valerie4977:

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

I'm not upset you have a different opinion. I'm upset that you think throwing out the fact that you're a Christian gives your opinion more validity. You believe God is the answer, say that. Don't say "Time to bring out the Christian voice" it's insulting to a fellow Christian who has already voiced their opinion.

SLaBM2B

valerie4977:

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

I'm trying to figure out what happened here too, b/c I didn't think you were condemning or being holier than thou.

BLT20051

I'm not condemning you, or picking on you. I'm trying to point out that you saying that you brought out your Christian voice offended me because I too am a Christian. Your opinion should be your opinion not a Christian opinion because not all of us have the same ones. Does that make sense?

SLaBM2B

zigspective:

RissNRuss:

Not all non-Christians are sex slaving, depraved heathens. 

Hey! You're ruining my cred here! 

LOL!

ariaforte8

valerie4977:

Time for my Christian voice to chime in. I feel very strongly that providing these types of drugs to young girls is sending them a message that I don't beleive in. Not all girls are raised in Christian homes where abstinence is taught from Gods word. So these girls who are already wandering lost in this world are being taught to not only have unbridled sex, but that by taking this drug will take away any sort of consequence. No, children are not a consequence but a blessing. But try to explain that to a scared young girl who is walking in the world without her Lord and Savior. Christians believe in God who forgives and loves us when we repent of our sins; teaching that to our children is our responsibility.

Yes, because those of us who don't believe in God teach our children to have lots of sex and take ALL the pills. I think my daughter is better prepared with proper sex ed under her belt than with a "lord and savior" who preaches to ignore the fact that rampant hormones and an underdeveloped brain leads a lot if teens to make dumb decisions... Especially in the heat of the moment.
I guess my mother lead me astray by taking me to women's health and getting me birth control, condoms, and plan B when I started to date. I had all of the things I needed, but yet I didn't have sex for another 2 years. I started dating my DH at 15, and had sex for the first time at 17. To this day, he is my only partner. Plan B was available to me in my dresser drawer, but I never needed it. The availability of it didn't make me make stupid decisions. It was there for peace of mind, to myself and my mother, should something happen where I did need it. I wish everyone could have this kind of relationship with their mom, but most don't. When Moms preach that sex is the worst thing a teen can do, and GOD FORBIDS IT, I doubt the kid will go to their parent when they do have unsafe sex or have a condom accident and need plan B. My Mom made it clear she wanted me to wait to have sex, but also wanted to prepare me for all possibilities.

Also, teen pregnancy has consequences. Period. You only have to look at the statistics to see that a majority of girls who are teen mothers suffer themselves in many ways because of becoming a mother too young. Dropout rates, poverty rates, the smalk number to go on to higher ed, the ones who have another within 2 years... Sure there are girls who still acheive their goals, but that is the exception to the rule.

valerie4977

SLaBM2B:

valerie4977:

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

I'm trying to figure out what happened here too, b/c I didn't think you were condemning or being holier than thou.

 I too am trying to figure out what happened here.  My intention of writing was to help young girls who are wandering lost, not to hurt anyone's feelings. But for my own sake, I've prayed for wisdom on this matter. I've also prayed for those who read my words and felt hurt.

valerie4977

Bacon+lettuce+tomato:

I'm not condemning you, or picking on you. I'm trying to point out that you saying that you brought out your Christian voice offended me because I too am a Christian. Your opinion should be your opinion not a Christian opinion because not all of us have the same ones. Does that make sense?

I appreciate your reply and do understand what you are saying. See Galations 2:20. This is where I am coming from, that my opinion is that of a Christian because through Christ have been given this life I now live. I am ever pointed to strive for the prize as in Phillipians 3:14. So in no way do I have authority to say that my fellow Christian is wrong, only that I am a Christian too and this is what I believe. 

Pray with me for wisdom, for God tells us that He will give us wisdom if we ask for it. 

rockinwife

valerie4977:

SLaBM2B:

valerie4977:

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

I'm trying to figure out what happened here too, b/c I didn't think you were condemning or being holier than thou.

 I too am trying to figure out what happened here.  My intention of writing was to help young girls who are wandering lost, not to hurt anyone's feelings. But for my own sake, I've prayed for wisdom on this matter. I've also prayed for those who read my words and felt hurt.

This makes you sound super judgy.  Just because someone doesn't subscribe to your interpretation to the Bible and makes different life choices doesn't make them "lost. 

I find it really inappropriate to use YOUR regilion to tell me what I should do with my body and what medical interventions I should have access to. 

emolm

rockinwife:

valerie4977:

SLaBM2B:

valerie4977:

I speak as a Christian, not The Christian. Are you really upset that my opinion isn't the same as yours? We disagree and I am not condemning you, but you are me? Why? What finger did I point at you? I didn't. I am advocating for those who need more help than a pill can offer.

I'm trying to figure out what happened here too, b/c I didn't think you were condemning or being holier than thou.

 I too am trying to figure out what happened here.  My intention of writing was to help young girls who are wandering lost, not to hurt anyone's feelings. But for my own sake, I've prayed for wisdom on this matter. I've also prayed for those who read my words and felt hurt.

This makes you sound super judgy.  Just because someone doesn't subscribe to your interpretation to the Bible and makes different life choices doesn't make them "lost. 

I find it really inappropriate to use YOUR regilion to tell me what I should do with my body and what medical interventions I should have access to. 

This.

GraceInCA

valerie4977:

Time for my Christian voice to chime in. I feel very strongly that providing these types of drugs to young girls is sending them a message that I don't beleive in. Not all girls are raised in Christian homes where abstinence is taught from Gods word. So these girls who are already wandering lost in this world are being taught to not only have unbridled sex, but that by taking this drug will take away any sort of consequence. No, children are not a consequence but a blessing. But try to explain that to a scared young girl who is walking in the world without her Lord and Savior. Christians believe in God who forgives and loves us when we repent of our sins; teaching that to our children is our responsibility.

I hate to break the bad news, but you people are failing. Miserably. The highest teen pregnancy rates and rates of transmission of STDs are in the Bible Belt. In those heathen, godless places like blue states where there is widespread comprehensive sex ed and access to contraceptives, those kids are making better choices than the kids you people expose to "Abstinence-Only Education".  Whatever it is you are "teaching" your kids is putting them in a position where they are much worse off than their better educated, better equipped peers.  

kelseypie

amtobey:

IrishCoffee7:

Religion has no place in this conversation really.  Americans either should have access to safe, effective means of birth control or they shouldn't.  And we should all follow our own moral compass to whether to take advantage of those rights.  Your Christianity has no bearing on my right or my daughter's right to make decisions regarding our own bodies, and our laws should not be based on one religion considering we are a nation of many religions as well as many non-religious people. 

This. x1000.

Joe Schmoe's religion should NOT dictate how I get to make my decisions or how my child gets to make decisions.

All of this!  I'm a Christian too, but that doesn't mean everyone else is.  I'm so sick of other Christians trying to force their beliefs into law.  Part of living in this country is freedom of religion.  Can't roll with that?  There are countries out there that DO enforce religion.  Mostly, they're called dictatorships.  Personally I like my freedom, but to each their own I guess.