Let me preface this by saying this girl and I use to be best friends until she started dating a mutual friend and she started cheating on him. I called her out on it never told him and she and I never spoke again. They later broke up and have since both married and had kids.
So I get this message from her on FB tonight.
Hey Kari,
So I stumbled upon your blog a couple weeks back and I must say.. You've had quite a difficult road. I can't even imagine. I know when we started trying early last year I was pretty anxious assuming it was going to take forever. Fortunately for us It only took several months. I'm not gloating. I understand heartache. Our little man was born with a tumor in his heart. Absolutely had no fore warning.. I did everything right, was healthy, exercised. Had a perfect pregnancy. Did everything I needed too. Just goes to show you, we're not in control.
Ok, so the point of this rambling short story. I need you to forgive me. Here's why. I read your blog like I said.. A couple weeks ago. And was almost satisfied that you've had this struggle. Apparently unbeknownst to myself I've harbored ill feelings ever since the Chris fiasco. It was ages ago, and I could seriously care less, but It appears that somewhere deep down.. I have un resolved issues of what happened between the two of us. It was almost like I felt karma has made its payback. The moment I started feeling smug toward your story was the minute I knew I was dead wrong. Like I said, I know heartache especially in the baby department. Hopefully one of yours takes and you and your hubby can have the baby you most certainly desire. I can only pray that my little boy stays healthy and had no further issues.
I feel awful about the way I felt when reading about your hurdles, and I wish you and Matt nothing but success.
Good luck Kari. I'm sorry that I felt the way that I did. I hope things work out for your family.
Natalie
I want I respond but I'm not sure what to say. Any advice?
DS born 7/5/2001
Married DH 2010
TTC since 2010
8 IUI and 2 IVF cycles
BFP - TWINS! - Lost twin A at 17w5d
Still pregnant with Twin B!!!! Due 10/16/2014
Hospital bed rest 5/10-7/20
William born at 27 weeks and 3 days
Re: Pissed and need advice long
First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
Switching RE
IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
BFN
Switching RE's within practice
*~God gives his hardest battles to his toughest solders. Unknown.
Unmedicated and medicated IUI's: all fail
IVF #1: Dec 2012 16m/15f 12/9: 5dt of 2 beautiful blasts and 5 frosties
TWINS!
15w4d:baby a-pProm
March 25: 18w...2 baby boys born sleeping
July 29: FET-BFN
Sept: TAC placed
Oct 27: FET #2-Cancelled-monster cyst producing insane amounts of estrogen
Nov 13: FET #2-take 2


Steer clear away from this self-absorbed person. She is not a friend. Sometimes you have to realize that breaking up with a friend is for your best health. And, forgiving her will only feel satisfying until she does something selfish again and starts your next fight (been there, done that several times with an old friend of mine and it's not worth hurting yourself over her.)
Give yourself a hug and be strong.
I read and then read it again. I don't think this person is a good person and someone you should have in your life. But.... On the other hand I think she is being honest with you. I would reply if I was in your situation and make peace and move on. Again, this isn't soneone I would bring into my life but if I was you I'd wish her little guy good health and forgive her (then forget her).
IF, 5 losses, 1 son, 1 on the way.
"I need you to forgive me"...for what? In hopes that nothing bad will come her way? How about just an apology? I'm sorry for cheating on ____ and you were right to call me out. I was wrong." and leave it at that. There was no need to bring up your blog or her child. Her intentions are all wrong and it seems that she's not the least bit sorry for her actions in the past, nor does it seem like she even takes personal responsibility for what she did.
I had a fallout with my best friend 6 years ago. We are both stubborn girls, but I had it in my heat to seek her out and apologize for what I had done. I didn't expect the same from her and I didn't place any blame on her. I was responsible for my actions and I told her that this wasn't a way to try to fix things or even trying to get her to forgive me. All I could do was what was right and from there she had to make her own choice. At first, she admitted that to her it was a "pissing contest" to see who caved first but then she saw my honesty and sincerity. She has since apologized for her part in the situation and we a now friends...not best friends like before, but we are in each other's lives again.
I personally would not respond to this and if you do, give it some time and have someone look over what you write before you send it. Her apology should be sincere and she should be able to see her wrong doing and have learned from it. If she truly believes that by asking you to forgive her, that her life will be better, she's got a lot to learn!
Me & DH (33), 3 Furbabies, TTC since October 2011
Day 3 #’s (Dec 2012) FSH 9, AMH .77, LH 2.4, E2 31, AFC 9
DX: Me-DOR + No Tubes, DH-Fine
Ectopic 2007; lost tube/2nd tube removed Dec 2011 (hydro)
April 2012=IVF#1- EPP Antag+ICSI, 2R,0F (BFN), Now dx’d with DOR.
June-July 2012=IVF#2- MDL+ICSI&AH, 8R,4M,3F (BFP 9dp3dt) Beta#1 at 11dp3dt=36, Beta#2 at 15dp3dt=156, Beta#3 at 19dp3dt=671, dx'd with SCH, no growth-m/c at 7wks/Lap Dec 2012 to remove small fibroid.
Feb 2013=IVF#3-MDL, 2/1=baseline, started 10 units mdl, AFC-7, 2/3 start gonal f, self cxld cycle b/c of low e2.
April 2013=IVF#3.5-(with new RE)AG/ANT Conv + ICSI. 4/10-4/23 bcp's, 4/20-4/27 lupron, 4/28-ganirelix until end of stimming, 5/2-600 gonal f, 5/4-add 1/2 vial menopur, 5/13-ER (9R,1M,1F), 5/17-ET, 1 beautiful 8 cell (please be my sticky baby!!!!) 5/28-BFFN.
Oct 2013=IVF#4-LLP+ICSI &AH, 10/14 (6R, 2M, 2F), 10/17-ET, 1 seven cell & a six cell, BFP at 9dp3dt, 1st beta=56, 2nd beta=52, CP.
Jan 2014=IVF #5-LLP, Cxld after 6 days of stims due to fast response and lead follicle.
March 2014=IVF 5.5-LLP, Lupron 3/10, BL 3/18, 11 days of stims, Trigger 3/29, ER 3/31. 7R, 2M, 2F. ET 4/3. Txfd one 5 cell & one 9 cell. BFP on hpt from 7dp3dt & on. Praise be to God. Beta #1 at 11dp3dt=106, #2 at 13dp3dt=239. First u/s 4/28, measuring on track & heartbeat seen. 5/5-2nd u/s, measuring on track with strong heartbeat. 5/12- 3rd u/s & released from RE. Grow baby grow, we love you! Baby G&T is a BOY! Born 12/2014 via c/s! 8lbs, 8oz & 21 inches.
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Me:29 DH:29 TTC since 1/11 Dx: unexplained IF/early DOR/immune issues
8/30IVF#1 Antagonist protocol- ER 9/11-8R, 7M, 5F.
IVF#2 Antagonist protocol plus baby aspirin- ER 12/5-16R, 12M, 8F!
ET 12/10 5dt! 1 fully expanded blast & 1 early blast. No frosties. BFN
3/13 hysteroscopy & polypectomy, Consulted w Dr. Kwak-Kim.
ER 7/19 14R, 11M, 9F(4 natural fert, 5 with ICSI)
ET 5dt 7/24 2 fully expanded blasts. SURPRISE 3 FROSTIES!!!
Beta #1 8/2 335!!!! Beta #2 829!!! 1st u/s 8/14 showed TWINS!!!!!
3/21/14-L&W born at 37w via csection
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PAIF/SAIF welcome!
TTC#1 since April 2011
IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
IVF#2 Oct 2012
16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
IVF#3 Mar 2013
6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC
IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN


http://i61.tinypic.com/34zll06IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals!
Me 32, DH 32
Dx: Unexplained IF
RE consult October 2012
IVF#1 on CD10! April 2013 - ER (27 retrieved, 19 fertilized) 4/21 - ET cancelled due to OHSS. 10 frosties
FET#1 w/ one blast May 2013-BFN
FET #2 w/ one blast July 2013-BFP!!! Beta 9dp5dt: 129 Beta 13dp5dt: 867 Beta 20dp5dt: 13621 Beta 27dp5dt: 53341 U/S #1: 7/31 heartbeat 127 measuring right on time EDD March 20th, 2014
This. She is obviously someone you do not want or need in your life. So sorry she sent that, though!
me:33 my wife:32 married in June '12
LONG road through IF ending in heartbreak and frustration.
So one reply would be:
Natalie,
A few years ago I heard you were pregnant and I was jealous at first. Well, your child was born with a serious heart defect which made the news far less sour for me. Just goes to show you you're not in control. Even though it's been a long time since you took advantage of our dear mutual friend by cheating on him and then showed your true colors by being angry with me for calling your crap, when I heard about your son's tumor I felt that karma finally made a comeback. The only reason I knew it was wrong to feel this way is because I have struggled with infertility myself. You have to forgive me even though you are essentially forgiving me for a thought that you shouldn't have even known about if I had just kept my mouth shut and not written this email. Have a nice life with success and whatever.
-Kari
Not recommended, though. I would just write back... "I have moved on from the past. Thanks for your honesty and support. I hope your little one stays healthy and strong!" and just leave it at that. It makes you come off as mature and level headed. You don't owe her anything or a long reply about forgiveness.
This is tricky, don't get too bothered by it!
Ugh, that's so tough. I would definitely stick to something like this....and really move on. I wouldn't give her another thought after you press send.
TTC since 9/2011
IVF #3 w/ICSI = 9/2013 = BFP! Beta #1 9/9: 79, Beta #2 9/12: 441
EDD: 5/20/14
Agree
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DH SA normal count and motility, 1% morphology
Me .72 AMH, Fragile X premutation carrier
IVF #1 (6/12/13) BFN
IVF #2 (8/16/13) BFN
FET 10/4/13 Chemical
IVF #3 MC 5 weeks 5 days
IVF #4 DE 11/7 BFP, edd 7/28/15
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While I would not try to have her as a friend in my life, I would forgive her and let her know. Forgive and move on. Best for your soul. Good luck
That stinks. I think it's ok to forgive but you don't have to write her some love poem about how you've forgiven. You can choose to forgive in your heart and move on. She's obviously a terrible person. Who needs a friend like that in their life?? I think it'd be best to not respond .... Ad not waste emotions on a bad person. Don't let it bother you because then she wins.
Cant stop thinking about the movie Just Friends when Anna Faris sings that song "... Forgiveness... Is more than saying sorry!!!" Comical but oh so wise.
Me: 32 H: 31
IVF #1 October 2013 Antagonistic Protocol with ICSI ER 10/31/13 (18R 16M 11F- 6 blasts to freeze)
ET delayed due to OHSS
FET scheduled for July 8. Delayed due to a crazy high TSH (it had been under control for YEARS!)
FET #1 8/5/14 sET BFN
Hahaha! Love the first one, hilarious!
IF, 5 losses, 1 son, 1 on the way.