No, I don't want a csection

ssemovsk

I just don't get how people elect to have a csection. It boggles my mind to raise your hand and say, yes, please rip open my stomach and take this baby out of me that goes against human nature and how women's bodies were created.

With that said, I completely understand the safety of the baby is #1 and if a csection is absolutely necessary because the baby is breech, in fetal distress, etc then its safer to go that route.

One of the OB's i talked to at my doc's office told me csections make up 25% of labor and the number keeps rising. I just feel like docs think its the easy way out when they grow impatient.

iris427

I really don't like the whole nature-worship "our bodies were made for this" thing.  Because a lot of women and babies would be dead if it weren't for medical intervention.  Nature has no regard for individual life--look at the shockingly high mortality rates for women and babies in other parts of the world.  

I respect a woman's choice to have an elective cesarean and I even understand it, though it's not a choice I've made myself.  Considering that everyone on this board has had a c/s and some will have c/s again in the future, let's try to stay away from the "stomachs ripped open" kind of talk.  A c/s is a birth and the way many women meet their baby for the first time. 

annabelle.27

iris427:

I really don't like the whole natureworship "our bodies were made for this" thing. nbsp;Because a lot of women and babies would be dead if it weren't for medical intervention. nbsp;Nature has no regard for individual lifelook at the shockingly high mortality rates for women and babies in other parts of the world. nbsp;I respect a woman's choice to have an elective cesarean and I even understand it, though it's not a choice I've made myself. nbsp;Considering that everyone on this board has had a c/s and some will have c/s again in the future, let's try to stay away from the "stomachs ripped open" kind of talk. nbsp;A c/s is a birth and the way many women meet their baby for the first time.nbsp;

All of this.

I have had a csection and a homebirth. One was not worse than the other. I think women should have every right to choose how they birth their babies whether you "get it" or not.

MAprincess

It bothers me when people sign on for something that major without educating themselves.  If a woman makes an informed decision to have elective surgery, that is her choice.  It's not a choice I would make because the data just doesn't suggest that is safe to me, but if someone else sees something else in it, that is up to them.

I am eternally grateful for the technology that is a c/s because neither my son or I would be alive without it.  Major surgery was not needed to get my daughter here safely.  I would never elect to have surgery.

nosoup4u

ssemovsk:

I just don't get how people elect to have a csection. It boggles my mind to raise your hand and say, yes, please rip open my stomach and take this baby out of me that goes against human nature and how women's bodies were created.

Hey, me either! But not everyone feels the same way, so it's for the best that we don't have the power to make those decisions for other women.

The actual percentage of truly elective c-sections is very, very low. 

"Despite some professional and mass media discourse about "maternal request" or "patient demand" cesarean when there is no medical indication, just one woman (0.08%) among 1314 survey participants who might have initiated a planned primary cesarean without medical reason did so. Just that one woman (0.4%) out of 252 survey participants who actually had a primary cesarean initiated a planned cesarean without medical reason. Two other women with a primary cesarean said that it was scheduled ahead of time without medical reason and initiated by a health professional."

From here: https://www.childbirthconnection.org/article.asp?ck=10372

margeincharge3

iris427:

I really don't like the whole nature-worship "our bodies were made for this" thing.  Because a lot of women and babies would be dead if it weren't for medical intervention.  Nature has no regard for individual life--look at the shockingly high mortality rates for women and babies in other parts of the world.  

I respect a woman's choice to have an elective cesarean and I even understand it, though it's not a choice I've made myself.  Considering that everyone on this board has had a c/s and some will have c/s again in the future, let's try to stay away from the "stomachs ripped open" kind of talk.  A c/s is a birth and the way many women meet their baby for the first time. 

Perfectly said.

 No matter what choice we make in childbirth there will always be one other person who thinks "why would anyone want that?" I try to keep that in mind when I hear of someone making a decision about childbirth that I wouldn't do.

preg_amy

iris427:

I really don't like the whole nature-worship "our bodies were made for this" thing.  Because a lot of women and babies would be dead if it weren't for medical intervention.  Nature has no regard for individual life--look at the shockingly high mortality rates for women and babies in other parts of the world.  

I respect a woman's choice to have an elective cesarean and I even understand it, though it's not a choice I've made myself.  Considering that everyone on this board has had a c/s and some will have c/s again in the future, let's try to stay away from the "stomachs ripped open" kind of talk.  A c/s is a birth and the way many women meet their baby for the first time. 

I love you.

And yeah, having had a traumatic birth experience with my c/s, the stomach ripped open is not something that is awesome to see on a VBAC board.

We're all here to try and avoid an unnecessary c/s, you don't have to convince anyone of anything.

After having my VBAC and getting the experience that I wanted where I felt respected and heard and had my choice... I can't understand looking down on any woman for any choice that she makes when it comes to childbirth, unless it's obviously dangerous or reckless.  

I think there are flaws in the medical system, but I think there are huge flaws in the "natural birth community" as well.  Shaming a woman into choosing or not choosing something is not the way to do it.  Forcing a mom into a birth she's not comfortable with is horrible whether she's being forced into a c/s or a vaginal birth.

cecilyandgautam

Most women, as in more than 99.9%, don't want a c-section. At least, not the first one. Some women are given incomplete information, like when they're not told the likelihood of an induction failing and the comparing likelihood that labor would start on its own in just a few more days. Some women are bullied at the most vulnerable moment in their life - put on unnecessary time restrictions, told they're risking their baby's life by declining pitocin. Some women are lied to. And some women actually do need  a c-section for either their own life or the safety of their child or both. These women didn't raise their hand and say "Yes, pick me! I want major abdominal surgery!!" 

Now, if you're talking about RCS (which I hope you are since you came on the VBAC board and I would like to think you didn't come here to say how terrible we are for agreeing to the first c-section), about half are not interested in a trial of labor. Many of those women don't know all the risks of a RCS, but some do and some prefer recovering from another surgery (that they go into well rested) than risk another failed labor attempt. That's their choice. Probably fewer women would make that choice if the true risk factors were presented to them, but not all would. And then there are us, those who gave our first labor everything we had based on what we knew at the time; who are preparing and arming ourselves with greater strength and knowledge for the next one; who drive across city, county, and even state lines to increase our chance of success; who will readily suffer surgical recovery again on top of labor recovery if that's what's needed for our babies; and who keep searching for the best support for our families when we're flooded in a sea of no's.

sunsail01

well said!  and enough said!

CarKar0615

I couldn't agree more! I had a c-section with my first and had to have another with my second because they were so close together. Now with my third i want a VBAC so bad!! Does anyone know anything about VBACs with a third baby after 2 C-section?