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Does great fertilization rate always mean good sperm?

starspangledgirl1starspangledgirl1 member
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Hi all, we had 100% fert on our last cycle but a BFN. I am confused bc my husband smokes (only 8 cigs a day, but still) and takes narcotics for back pain. But we had great fertilization. Does that mean his sperm are fine and not the problem? 
me 40, DH 39... FSH:8.6 AMH 2.3 AFC:15... DH: MF: sx for Double Varicocele, SA 45 mil, motil: 50%, morph 3%- "lazy swimmers!"... Me: All "normal" but aging eggs most likely... ;-/ DS: 4/29/05-7 yrs old MC 9 weeks: 9/21/11 TTC for 3 yrs...7/2012: 1st IUI: BFN 8/2012: 2nd IUI: BFN... Need a break already! IVF #1 in progress Jan 2013: Antagonist Prot.: Gonal F 300/Menopur 150 ER: 15 follies, 12 retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized...grow embies grow! 1/8/13: BFN.
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Re: Does great fertilization rate always mean good sperm?

  • Mayan2011Mayan2011 member

    No, it doesn't.  Your clinic should be able to tell you his numbers from each sample (i.e., motility, count, and morphology) - I see that you have some values in your siggy, which are not great.  I have definitely seen worse, but those presen

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  • starspangledgirl1starspangledgirl1 member
    thank you! just emailed my RE requesting more tests. congrats on your twins!!! thats encouraging!
    me 40, DH 39... FSH:8.6 AMH 2.3 AFC:15... DH: MF: sx for Double Varicocele, SA 45 mil, motil: 50%, morph 3%- "lazy swimmers!"... Me: All "normal" but aging eggs most likely... ;-/ DS: 4/29/05-7 yrs old MC 9 weeks: 9/21/11 TTC for 3 yrs...7/2012: 1st IUI: BFN 8/2012: 2nd IUI: BFN... Need a break already! IVF #1 in progress Jan 2013: Antagonist Prot.: Gonal F 300/Menopur 150 ER: 15 follies, 12 retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized...grow embies grow! 1/8/13: BFN.
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  • hootie123hootie123 member
    I can tell you from personal experience that fert rate does not equal "good" sperm. I've actually read that poor fert rates are actually an egg issue more than sperm. GL!
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  • LuCloLuClo member
    Like Mayan said, good fert rates=/= good sperm.  Your sig mentioned that 10 out of 10 eggs fertilized.  How many of those 10 made it to day 5?  That number would probably be a better indicator.
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  • starspangledgirl1starspangledgirl1 member
    there were 4 useable ones out of 10, they did a 3 day transfer of 3 eggs and let one more wait it out until day 5. so technically 1 made it to day 5, but there other 3 may have made it too, we just dont know bc they were transferred on day 3.....
    me 40, DH 39... FSH:8.6 AMH 2.3 AFC:15... DH: MF: sx for Double Varicocele, SA 45 mil, motil: 50%, morph 3%- "lazy swimmers!"... Me: All "normal" but aging eggs most likely... ;-/ DS: 4/29/05-7 yrs old MC 9 weeks: 9/21/11 TTC for 3 yrs...7/2012: 1st IUI: BFN 8/2012: 2nd IUI: BFN... Need a break already! IVF #1 in progress Jan 2013: Antagonist Prot.: Gonal F 300/Menopur 150 ER: 15 follies, 12 retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized...grow embies grow! 1/8/13: BFN.
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  • jschwind22jschwind22 member
    From what I have read and learned on this board, the egg quality is responsible for growing embryo's from fertilization to day 3, and then the sperm take over from days 3-5.  I don't think you can assume that a good fert rate means good sperm. 
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  • starspangledgirl1starspangledgirl1 member
    Hi there, we also has ICSI done on all embryos. How have you guys been doing so far? We are ready to start IVF #2 in two weeks. 
    me 40, DH 39... FSH:8.6 AMH 2.3 AFC:15... DH: MF: sx for Double Varicocele, SA 45 mil, motil: 50%, morph 3%- "lazy swimmers!"... Me: All "normal" but aging eggs most likely... ;-/ DS: 4/29/05-7 yrs old MC 9 weeks: 9/21/11 TTC for 3 yrs...7/2012: 1st IUI: BFN 8/2012: 2nd IUI: BFN... Need a break already! IVF #1 in progress Jan 2013: Antagonist Prot.: Gonal F 300/Menopur 150 ER: 15 follies, 12 retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized...grow embies grow! 1/8/13: BFN.
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