S finally fell asleep. My God. I feel like my heart is broken.
Anyways, this chick on my FB is selling "pure" Beagle puppies...for $500 a piece.
I want to know...who spends $500 on a dog? That's almost an entire MONTH's worth of rent over here.
I'm a PW today, but this board is so friggin' slow on the weekends and I'll be at work in a few hours, so I gotta squeeze it all in!
Tell me how much you spent on your animals (to purchase them, we all know they're expensive as shizz to maintain).
I spent $20 - a $10 adoption fee for each cat during Animal Shelter Month.
Re: $500 for a dog?!!!
On the other hand, my friend runs a non profit animal rescue and they charge a 100 dollar adoption fee. That includes spay or neuter and chipping, though.
We have 3 dogs.
Lady is a cavalier king charles spaniel we got at a pound (almost unheard of for that breed) $100 fee at pound
Bella is a mini schnauzer, we paid $200 from a breeder
Sophie, also a cavalier king charles, was on discount from the breeder for $450
I believe in adopting dogs, but here even that costs $200+ because of the shots/spaying or neutering, or whatever.
We have two dogs - my older dog (a lab/border collie mix) is adopted. But DH grew up with a Scottish Terrier and gave me a Scottie as a surprise for Christmas while we were dating. We were living in VA at the time and DH found a reputable Scottie breeder in Oklahoma and had our puppy shipped to DC. His flight was delayed
I'm not sure of the exact cost, but I'm sure the cost of him plus shipping was $500+. Now my dog is 11 years old and our Scottie is 7 years old.
I also feed my dogs high-quality food, which is expensive, but I think it makes for healthier dogs and therefore lower vet bills. Just like eating high-quality food makes me healthier too.
My parents are Westie breeders and they sell for about 700-1000 a pup. It's crazy but I can't say that I didn't benefit from it. And DS will always grow up around puppies.
On the other hand all my pets are adopted.
For a purebred dog, you could spend anywhere from a few hundred to a couple grand.
I probably spent $50 to adopt my cat.
If I didn't work at animal hospital and get a discount, I wouldn't own an animal. I wouldn't be able to afford it if an emergency came up. I did my cat's full work up - vaccines, blood work, etc. right before DS was born and won't worry about it for a few years.
I almost bought a kitten for 800 a few years ago. Pure bred Bengal kitten. I will have one someday.
The siamese cat I had when I was a teen was normally 350, but the breeders wife was selling all of them because they were getting divorced. I paid 50.
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glad I'm not the only anti-breeder here! I can't stand that people make thousands of dollars per animal in that industry while thousands of animals are euthanized every single day because they aren't adopted.
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both of our Boston Terriers were $500 and that is on the lower end of the scale. I have seen them for upwards of $1500.
I'm indifferent about adopting vs. buying from a breeder. Yes, there are a ton of dogs out there that need homes but - what do you do when you want a specific breeds because of their character traits? I don't want a dog anytime soon by any means but would love to own a doberman someday. They are gentle giants, loyal, and great protectors.... I'm not finding a doberman in a shelter. Maybe a doberman mix from a rescue breed... but then I'd risk adopting a dog that doesn't have all the dobie traits I love.
Also, you have no clue what shelter dogs have been through. With DS and 3 young stepchildren, I don't know if I'd risk bringing in a dog that could turn on them. I guess it'd have to be a brand new puppy from a stray or something so I could assure it wasn't abused or something else that could cause it to be aggressive.
I think we paid $750 for our golden retriever. He's a pure bred with papers.
We just adopted our cats and they were $90.
Reputable breeders will also breed for temperament and lower incidence of disease. No reputable breeder is in it for the money. I don't think they actually net much at all.
Puppy mills on the other hand are disgusting. I would never buy a dog from a pet store.
A breed is not a temperament. Period. Every animal can throw a bad egg, even 10th gen show animals. Shelters do a LOT of background work before they adopt out, the idea that you're taking some huge risk on a possible basket case is unfounded. If you wanted a specific breed, whatever, I don't care. But it's silly to act like buying a purebred is paying for a guaranteed problem free animal, because there's no such thing.
I think DH paid somewhere around $1200 to $1500 for our purebred border terrier. This was well before I was in the picture. He says it is worth the expense upfront to know the bloodlines and avoid having health problems later (not guaranteed, of course, but lower chance).
But I know we would never buy from a puppy mill kind of operation. There is a puppy store in our mall where they keep the dogs in modified cribs and it makes me so sad every time we walk by.
I WISH I had paid $500 for my dog. She's a purebred german shepherd, and she was $1,000. She's the absolute best dog in the world, and I've never been sorry we spent the money. We wanted to be sure we were getting a puppy from a breeder who breeds responsibly, and cared about the quality of the dog. That's what you pay here if you want a nice result. I was just at the pet store today buying food for our animals, and they had a german shepherd puppy (no papers) for $1,400.
We also have three rescue cats, and each was $135. That included their first few months of vet care and spaying/neutering, and transportation to us (they're all siamese) so it was a bargain.
$500 would never cover rent in our neck of the woods. The cost of living in our area is insane. Between our mortgage, daycare for DS, and repaying my law school loans, we pay $3,500 a month in bills before power, cable, water, gas, food or any other expenses!
Normally, I agree that shelter pets are the way to go. All three of my cats are rescues. However, when we got our dog, DH had his heart set on a german shepherd, and we had just moved to a neighborhood with a ton of small kids. I was too nervous to go pick a shepherd out of a rescue, becuase no rescue can guarantee the dog's temperament. With all the young children around us, I couldn't risk getting a dog that I wasn't absolutely 100% confident had been bred properly. We did tons of research, and found a responsible breeder who guaranteed our dog for life, including her temperament. People are so irresponsible with breeding shepherds (and people tend to fear them), it's a shame. When bred properly, they're the most loyal, smart, wonderful dogs.
I agree there's no absolute guarantee, but the chances are better, IMO. Also, the guaranteed termperament means that the breeder will take the dog back if anything ends up happening. Not that a shelter wouldn't do the same, but it meant a lot to DH and me that the breeder we bought from was confident and careful enough that she could make that promise. In our case, it worked out beautifully.
I have a mixed-breed shelter dog and 2 purebred papillons from reputable breeders. The mixed-breed cost $99, the papillons were $750 and $1,000.
It cost A LOT of money to breed responsibly. Here's a breakdown of potential costs: https://omalmalamutes.com/omal/littercost.htm
Whether an animal is free or thousands of dollars, the purchase price of the animal is the cheapest part.
Last year, treatment for our mixed-breed dog having a scratched eye was about $400 (antibiotic eye drops, several followup visits, etc.). Those are the REAL costs that add up: the food, veterinary care, flea/tick and heartworm preventative, boarding when you go on vacation, etc.
I would also like to add that reputable, responsible breeders are also pro-rescue.
I show one of my dogs in AKC conformation shows, so I know a lot of breeders.
If they don't have puppies available, or if they don't feel their breed in general or the personality of available puppies (for example, an "alpha personality" puppy when the potential buyer needs a more submissive dog, like if they already have an "alpha personality" dog in their home) is a good match for the potential buyer, they refer to a breed rescue or general rescue. Some breeders also foster rescue dogs.
Good breeders don't breed to have puppies to sell, they breed because they are furthering their hobby or personal needs: they want another dog for showing, performance (agility/obedience/etc) events, or working (herding/hunting/etc). Many times, the puppies are already spoken for BEFORE the breeding even takes place! A lot of times, you'll have to be on a waiting list to get a puppy from a reputable breeder.
Blaming REPUTABLE breeders for pet overpopulation is like blaming pharmacists for the drug problem. Pet overpopulation is a result of irresponsible breeders (backyard breeders & puppymills) and irresponsible pet owners.
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Here are some statistics on the animals that end up in shelters:
- The majority of the surrendered dogs (47.7%) and cats (40.3%) were between 5 months and 3 years of age.
- The majority of dogs (37.1%) and cats (30.2) had been owned from 7 months to 1 year.
- Approximately half of the pets (42.8% of dogs; 50.8% of cats) surrendered were not neutered.
- Many of the pets relinquished (33% of dogs; 46.9% of cats) had not been to a veterinarian.
- Animals acquired from friends were relinquished in higher numbers (31.4% of dogs; 33.2% of cats) than from any other source.
- Most dogs (96%) had not received any obedience training.
yeah, that's definitely what I meant too. for sure, there are reasons why going through a reputable breeder are necessary.
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