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August 2011 Moms
Monsieur_et_Madame_Ha
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Thoughts?
Monsieur_et_Madame_Ha
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I know some of you have already seen or even replied to this thread, but I'm curious as to where everyone stands on this.
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/1/71654565/ShowThread.aspx
ETA: Made it clicky for ShanAdo
Farewell, nesticle, you will be missed
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Re: Thoughts?
I've said it before and I'll say it again... I'm Team KateB1984 all the way. I pink puffy heart pretty much everything she says.
But, I also DO NOT CARE what everyone else is feeding their kids. I wish more people gave a care enough to look into what they're eating themselves, which would then trickle down into what they feed their families. But, it's not my decision. We live in a free country (well, us US Americans do ;P), and making day-to-day dietary decisions is an individual thing.
Pouches are a convenience food. But, how hard is it to grab blueberries, raspberries or strawberries and swirl them around in a mesh strainer to clean them and then feed them to LO? How hard is it to peel a banana? Just a different perspective I guess. If food isn't something that's a priority for you, you'll likely not agree with me, and that's totally OK.
What are your thoughts?
Honestly, I don't see the big deal in the occasional treat.
Snacks in this house are usually cheese, fruit, yogurt or crackers, but I don't have a problem with giving the girls a chocolate chip cookie for dessert either.
I'll also add
Re: Pouches
I like to have them on hand because they are SO convenient. I always have some in my diaper back pack. When we're home, though, I don,t really ever give them to the girls because like you said, there are plenty of other easy snacks I can offer. I also buy the no sugar added ones because well, I don't see the point in adding sugar to applesauce. Still, I see no harm in the occasional treat.
Fixed the OP for you
My disclaimer is that I don't care what others feed their kids and I don't care what people think of what I feed mine.
Per my food challenge, I've eliminated any kind of sweetener that has has required people to physically or chemically alter it in order to reach the state it's in by the time it hits the shelf. My and the kids' sweetener options are 100% pure maple syrup (which none of us really care for) and 100% pure, natural honey. When something needs sweetening we mix one of the two into it.
That said, the kids and I go to town on fruits and vegetables, many of which contain naturally-occuring sugars. I'm obviously also on a quest to bring desserts into our diet that meet my strict no-refined-sweeteners rule, because I like cookies and I like to feed my kids cookies. We also eat sauces, jellies, and other various snacks that consist of pureed or smushed-up fruits (like apple sauce that is 100% apples only).
My personal opinion is that nixing a 100% fruit puree is a little extreme. Naturally-occurring sugars don't have nearly the same effect on the human body as refined and man-made sweeteners do. I don't think there's any reason to take it so far. Besides, that only means they're missing out on some of the great nutrients and health benefits that come inherently with nature's sweets.
ETA: I use the pouches regularly, so long as they're 100% fruit only. I usually also fork out the extra few cents for the certified USDA organic pouches, just because I like to. They're awesome to have on hand in the event that we're out and about longer than intended. Also, DD2 doesn't like to be fed - she likes to feed herself and she prefers the pouches to fiddling with a spoon (she still hasn't gotten the hang of those darn things). When we're home I just give her chunks of fruit. NBD.
E (again) TA: When we're out with friends or family and invited to dine out, we just eat what's available to us. When DD1 has a party at school, or on Halloween or Valentine's Day or Easter she will be allowed to eat her loot (within reason, of course). I'm not that naive or hardcore, lol.
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Oh I agree I would much rather feed my kids treats I made from scratch vs the store bought stuff. I was just taken aback by some of the replies, like "You should read a book on nutrition". I just didn't think what the OP was describing was THAT big of a deal.
I'm not super strict about sweets/treats in our house. DS doesn't get candy, soda or juice, but he has had cake, cookies and ice cream here and there. Half the time he takes a couple of bites and he's done, NBD. I won't be severely restricting his diet when he is older and can understand, because to me it's unnecessary if you are teaching them healthy habits and moderation. I will teach him about nutrition and exercise.
We go for walks as a family, we go to the gym together and we eat treats occasionally together.
I'm so over the pouch debate! Who cares! My kid likes them and he has always hated veggies (even before we introduced sweeter thing). If he needs them for veggies, so be it. He also thinks they are pretty cool - he likes the independence, I think.
::gasp:: Now that's pearl-clutching worthy!
Sugar - I stay away from it in our daily diets as much as I can. DD has never had juice or candy. But I am not opposed to an occasional treat or snack. If we're visiting my parents on a Sunday, and they give DD a cookie after dinner, I don't freak out. DH loves sweet snacks and this pregnant mama likes the occasional bowl of ice cream, but we only eat those things after DD goes to bed.
I mentioned in that post that when there are two choices side by side, like applesauce, and the no sugar option is available right there, that is ALWAYS what I get.
Pouches - I made all of DD's baby food, but we got some pouches as a gift when she was about 8months old. I now keep one in my diaper bag at all times. She might get one a week, only when we're out and about. I like the convenience and portability. I won't pay the price in regular stores for them ($1.25 or more for one!), but I pick up a case of the applesauce when we make a Costco trip, where they're about $0.49/each.
You need to "know" the OP to get statements like that. There is MUCH history behind a comment like "You should read a book on nutrition."
Hahaha
I'm so scandalous.
Also, when I think of pearl clutching I think of a man grabbing his junk. Does that make me a perv? Either way, it still makes me giggle when I think of a bunch of hoity-toity women "pearl-clutching". *snort*
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I think KateB1984 is spot on as well.
Dh and I were very unhealthy eaters prior to Lj. I remember growing up that most of my unhealthy meals were all due to convenience and I know dhs were because his mom wasn't educated in that field. I don't want Lj to do the same as I did. I just try to have healthier options on hand. I'm not saying that we are perfect eaters, we do allow cookies and such on occasion but these aren't items that are generally kept in our house.
As far as pouches, I guess because I'm home with Lj and nb all day they just aren't convenient for us. I can just as easily run to the fridge and slice an apple for them. Much of our foods are made from whatever we have that is fresh. It's cheaper for us this way and works for us because we are in a home environment all day everyday, except for our 16 minute round trip commute.
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Like NativeFlorida and J&K, I'd say I'm pretty strict when it comes to feeding my family as much real/organic/local/minimally processed food as possible. A banana is nature's food pouch and at 19 cents a pop they sure are cheaper than pre-made pouches!
The exception for me is if we're enjoying someone else's hospitality. Being a gracious guest to my host will always trump my personal (and elective) dietary preferences, and I'll eat what they serve me.
I think it's important to note that 2-3 servings of fruit per day is more than enough, plus vegetables have all the benefits of fruits like antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, etc -- so I try to offer more veggies than fruits for things like snacks and sides. So I guess my reply to this woman would be yes I DO serve applesauace, but it's rare, and when I do, it's the organic no added sweeteners kind.
We try and stick with a 90/10 rule. 90 percent of the time it's healthy meats, veggies and fruit. 10 percent of the time it's sweets, crackers, juice or junk. Which 100 percent of the time happens at a grandma's house! I don't buy that kind of stuff.
I cook most of our snacks and treats. I try and cook breakfast, lunch, and dinner daily. Although, Being in the first tri, I let things go a little.
We have only done pouches a few times. Once when we were traveling and once right around 12 mo when Jack wouldn't touch veggies. He didn't like the pouch either so I ended up deciding it was teeth and never bought them again.
I do buy no sugar added GoGo squeezers from Costco. But, they're a treat. Applesauce 3 times a week sounds excessive. I actually feel the same way about dried fruit. It's natures candy.
All that being said, the mm's and occasional cupcake don't sound bad to me. But, I think her kid might be getting more sugar in her diet than she thinks.
That being said, DS won't eat much right now, so he gets a lot of graham crackers and yogurt because that's what he'll eat, and neither of us is happy if he wakes up at 5am because he didn't eat his dinner. Seriously, he would totally skip meals if I let him he just wants crackers, yogurt, and cheese. He'd eat more fruit if I let him, but it screws up his digestion, so he gets a banana and applesauce, but that's about it. No sugar added applesauce, of course.
And about the pouches, I buy them and even give them at home because he has no teeth and it's the only way he eats veggies. Sorry, but I'm not going to cook and puree veggies just for him to reject them, which is what he's doing now. I'm not going to give him raw stuff because he can't chew it. With a pouch, I might be spending more money, but at least I don't get mad that I made food and have to do all the dishes when he didn't even eat the food. I already played that game when I was making his baby food, and I was not a happy mama when he rejected what I made for him.
Jnk / ShanAdo
Thank you for enlightening me about OP. I also thought maybe there was more to it, but wasn't sure...
I agree with what most PP's have said. Balance is key, as is offering healthy foods first. DD has never been a fan of just veggies. She'll go to town on veggie loaded homemade soups, stews and chilli though. I prefer raw veggies over cooked and I have a feeling she will too. I'm just not super comfortable with her eating a lot of raw veg yet (especially when I'm not around).
She loves fruit and we'll typically offer her that before anything else. That being said I send her to the sitter's with greek yogourt (vanilla/plain mix) and organic, non-sweetened applesauce everyday. Sometimes she eats both, sometimes only one. She doesn't drink a ton of milk on it's own and doesn't like sliced cheese, so the yogourt is more for dairy than convenience.
We eat out very very rarely and both SO and I love to cook and I like baking as well. She'll get homemade goodies when they're here or if we go to someones house.
I love Sqoosh pouches for the road and to have on hand if we are waiting somewhere. DD doesn't usually get them at home.
I probably let my kid have more sweets than a lot of people. I love them so dd eats them when I do. I'd say a homemade cookie or few bites of ice cream every other day is fairly normal.c They rest of her food I'm strict about. We do the whole organic, local, free range thing on almost all of our meat and produce. I cook without processed ingredients and try to make as much of our snack food as I can.
I do think that this is one of those issues that people make a big deal about here, but IRL I know my shopping cart is filled with healthier stuff than about 95 percent of the others I see (because yes I'm a judgy bastard and I look
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as I type this I'm watching dd find a bag of yogurt covered prtezels in my purse. She saying yummy as she digs in. Lol.
my thoughts exactly
I totally agree with this, to me eating healthy doesn't mean not eating sugar, it means eating a balanced diet that includes the occasional treat. I see no issue with some homemade cake or cookies a few times a week as long as its in additional to a healthy balanced meal. And frankly I think there is a risk in going to far with the no treats ever leading to kids and adults that don't know how to eat sweets in moderation.
We use pouches (the no sugar added kind) though they are starting to loose interest in them, but they are easy to keep in the diaper bag and I don't have to think about packing them before I go out. Anything that makes my life one step easier with young twins I'm all for paying a little more for.
I definitely think there is going too far, says the girl who thought raisins were candy until I was 5. I binged on sugar any chance I got when I discovered it.
I'm lucky that dd is a really good eater. If she becomes pickier I'm sure ill have to be more careful about limiting fluff, but for now I'll just keep on with what I'm doing.
oh, and why didn't anyone ever tell me that having a toddler is like having a teenager. I would have never imagined how much food goes through our house. Dd easily eats 5 pounds of fruit a week!