Trouble TTC

I <3 DH, BUT.....

Am I the only one who feels like he will never ever REALLY get it?  :-( 

TTC#1
Dx PCOS @ 16y.o
9/2011: unplanned natural conception and MC @ 6weeks Cycle 1: 12/2012: TI & 2000MG Metformin & 100MG Clomid = CP
Functional Cyst - fixed with 2wks BCP
Cycle 2: 1/31/13: IUI #1
Meds:2000MG Metformin, 100MG Clomid, HSG/Trigger, Provera 400mg 2DPIUI
Stats: SA 20mil & 63% mot/follicles (as per 1/30 u/s): 22, 13, 14
BFP! Beta #1 13DPiui: 79! Beta #2 15DPiui: 164! Beta#3 19DPIUI: 773! First US scheduled 3/5! EDD Oct 23!
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Re: I <3 DH, BUT.....

  • Not at all!  My DH is supportive but doesn't see a point in going to any of my RE appts with me.  I don't mind going on my own but sometimes the drive alone gives me anxiety and he doesn't understand that.  It is JUST another appt to him.  GL!
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  • I mean he loves me, and he's supportive in his own way, but he's limited.  And I'm like holding on to each last breath that the doctor gives us, and he's like "it'll happen - I trust the doctor's - just have faith."  And I'm like STFU!  
    TTC#1
    Dx PCOS @ 16y.o
    9/2011: unplanned natural conception and MC @ 6weeks Cycle 1: 12/2012: TI & 2000MG Metformin & 100MG Clomid = CP
    Functional Cyst - fixed with 2wks BCP
    Cycle 2: 1/31/13: IUI #1
    Meds:2000MG Metformin, 100MG Clomid, HSG/Trigger, Provera 400mg 2DPIUI
    Stats: SA 20mil & 63% mot/follicles (as per 1/30 u/s): 22, 13, 14
    BFP! Beta #1 13DPiui: 79! Beta #2 15DPiui: 164! Beta#3 19DPIUI: 773! First US scheduled 3/5! EDD Oct 23!
    Lilypie Pregnancy tickers
    S/PAIF Welcome - You girls give me HOPE!
    Herbal Supplements: 1800mg NAC, Fish Oil, Vitamin D, Baby Asprin, Folguard, Multivitamin
  • My DH really doesn't understand.  He doesn't get why I get upset and sad when people make comments about their kids and how it must be good BC for us to be around them for example.  All he says when I ask him about IF is that he is sad about it bc I am sad and that he wants kids.  Then there is me - I am sad and angry and frustrated and hopeful yet pessimistic about it all.  I am completely an emotional rollercoaster and he doesn't get it.  He won't go to appts unless they are consults.  I told him he has no option but to be there for the IUI, but we haven't been successful in follie growth for that yet....I just try and remind myself that they are men - they were trained to not understand or respond to emotions.  It isn't his fault - I remind myself of that all the time!

    TTC #1 Since 7/2011

    Me: 30, PCOS with anovulation
    DH: 38, Low Morph & DE
    Rx: Metformin 500mg

    Cycle #1: Clomid 100mg + Ovidrel = No Response, Canceled
    Cycle #2: Clomid 150mg + Ovidrel = No Response, Canceled
    Cycle #3: Clomid 150mg + Follistim + Ovidrel = No response, Canceled

    Cycle #4: Femara 7.5mg + Gonal-f + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP!!!!

     

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  • You are not alone!!!!  My husband would constantly tell me about woman that came into his work that were 40-43 with their first baby.  How by seeing that, surely it would happen for us if I would just quit stressing.  I told him, while I am happy for them, I am sure they didn't tell you the years it took or the money and procedures. I tried buying him the book, "What to Expect When She is Not Expecting."  But that didn't help much.  I would also get upset because my husband doesn't need sex all the time, so to just get 2 BD days during ovulation was an ordeal.  I think when he finally went with me to the HSG and the RE talked to him, he got it. He still isn't 100%, but is more understanding that he needs to try harder.  Even when he got a bad SA report, his friend told him, "Oh, that happened to me to. Go to the clinic and do it there next time. It will be better." WTH? No one is the same. So my husband didn't even really worry about it.  Sigh, I finally told him that it seemed like he didn't want to have a baby because he wasn't trying and he said he did and it has gotten a tad better.  I tried explaining that if I could quit thinking about it I would. But every time ugly AF rears her head, I am reminded that I didn't get pregnant. So how can I not think about it?  As time progresses and we get further along in this journey, he is becoming more sympathetic. Just try to keep communication open and remember that men think differently than we do.
    Me:37 DH:40 Married 7/2009 TTC since 5/2012 
    BFP 4/2013, Our Christmas Miracle Due 12/18/2013
  • Yup, DH thinks I should be drinking herbal teas to relax and that's all I need. He's okay with pursuing fertility treatments but thinks if I just relaxed, that's all we need...(because his sister-cousin-aunt-grandma's daughter in law) went through the same thing and conceived after relaxing....Confused

    Me: 32, DH: 34.
    Trying since Jan 2011. Unexplained IF.
    2 IUIs = BFN.
    1 IVF (Dec 2013) = BFN.
    FET, 2 frosties (June 13, 2014)

    14dp5dt-June 27 -BFP, beta 2061. 2nd beta >5000, 3rd beta >5000, 2 sacs 06/30.
    Twin Girls - 02/11/15 - at 37 weeks (no NICU, home with me at 3 days).
  • No, you're not alone. I think that it's just a man thing.

    I do have to say that DH is very supportive. He prefers to go to my appointments with me. He hasn't missed one yet. ;)

    Mr. & Mrs. - Est. 10.03.2009

    TTC #1 since 06.2011 Me-24 DH-24

    12.2011 SA = Normal

    06.2012 First visit with OB/GYN

    10.2012 Clomid 50mg + TI = BFN

    11.2012 Clomid 50mg + TI = BFN

    12.2012 Clomid 100mg + TI = BFN

    01.2013 First visit with RE

    02.2013 Clomid 150mg + TI = BFN

    03.2013 Femara 5mg + TI = BFN

    05.2013 Femara 5mg + TI = BFN

    06.2013 Femara 7.5mg + TI = BFN

    *Taking a break*  

  • I understand this.  While my husband wants a baby and knows that I desperately do too, I do not think he understand the magnitude of grief I feel on a daily basis.  You are not alone!
    Me--30 with Endometriosis and PCOS DH--30
    TTC since July 2010
    Many failed rounds of clomid since January 2011
    Laparoscopic Surgery July 2012
    First IUI TBD
  • Dh had told me this in the past and it frustrates the living shtt out of me "maybe we're forcing something that's not meant to be". Mind you he's a paramedic/firefighter and I tell him if he can push drugs into someone to help a heart attack situation or overdose, why can't I do the same with giving my ovaries a little boost.
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    TTC since 10/2010 (Rhythm method since 2007)

    Me (33) Sept 2012 - DX Low ovulation/progesterone, Luteal Phase Defect. HSG 5/2012: both tubes are open, cervix and lining look good;
    September 2014 DX Hashimoto's; November 2014: PCOS IR

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    DH (37) Sept 2012 SA Normal; October 2014 Mild MFI count 42 Million, Motility 36%, Morphology 2%. Clomid 50mg,
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    2004 Cyrosurgery, LEEP
    May 2012 - HSG Clear; June 2012 - Appointment with RE
    July 2012 - October 2012 - Clomid 50mg W/ TI & Progesterone 3 mature follicles- BFN
    January 2013 IUI #1 (900,000 post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 2 mature follicles - BFN
    February 2013 IUI #2 (1.3 Mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 4 mature follicles - BFN
    March 2013 IUI #1-3 (2.5 mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, Baby Aspirin (lining thinned) TI & Progesterone - 2 mature follicles BFN
    April 2013 Benched due to cyst, May 2013 WTF appointment
    June 2013 DH SA mild MFI break for 2 months to re-test; August 2013 - DH SA 36 Mil count, 36% Motility, Morp 2%
    September - December 2013 - Mental sanity Break
    January 2014 - IUI #4 switches to natural due to scheduling conflict Femara TI & Progesterone - 1 mature follicle - BFN
    May 2014-June 2014 - DH Appointment w/ Urologist to check Bi-lateral Varicocele; 2nd opinion w/ another urologist - bi-lateral varicocele dx is slight no surgery
    July 2014 DH starts clomid 25mg daily SA 53.8 Mil count, Motility 37%, Morph 3%;
    September 2014 DH Repeat SA after being on clomid for 3 months 42 Mil Count, Motility 36%, Morph 2%
    October 2014 Me: Hashimoto's DX, DH taken off clomid;
    November 2014 Me: new RE PCOS IR Diagnosis
    December 2014: IUI #4 Follitism 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, BFMFN

    January 2015: IUI #5
    Gonal-F 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, Another BFMFN onto IUI #6
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  • imageEnglishTeacher30:
    I understand this.  While my husband wants a baby and knows that I desperately do too, I do not think he understand the magnitude of grief I feel on a daily basis.  You are not alone!

    This exactly. Anytime I get upset lately he looks at me shocked and says "What's wrong!!" I finally yelled at him the other day and said "You know whats wrong. For the rest of my life its going to be the same danm thing." He got mad about this reaction, but he still asked me again the other night what I was crying about. How can he act like he has no clue why I'd be upset these days. It makes me feel like he's not even half as upset as I am if he's always so stunned that I could be upset again. It never goes away for me.

     

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  • Yup.  DH 'gets it' and is supportive.  He's had his share of moments when he's overwhelmed and broke down.  But on the day-to-day he doesn't always seem to understand how hard it is to get away from.  

    After we decided to do IVF, there was one day when I had to coordinate bloodwork, drug delivery, insurance approval, injection training and time off work (all while at work and trying to get my job done).  I kept pushing him for which day he was available to sign for the delivery and go with me to the class.  He was being non-committal and saw no urgency.  I was getting persistent because we had a very small window to get in for this cycle.  Finally he said I needed to stop making it such a thing and just let it happen.  I. lost. it.  I told him that obviously I want it to "just happen" but for us it is never going to "just happen".  If we wait for it to "just happen" we will never have kids.  This is the boat we're in and if he wants to have children then this is what it takes and he needs to give me a f*cking date.        He's been a little more cautious since then. 

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  • See, I thought that.  But then the day of my baseline I made an off handed comment and it turned into a huge argument.  In the middle of the argument I realized I had assumed he didn't understand or even feel half as bad as I did.  But the truth is he does.  He just processes anger, pain, and grief - differently.  

    I believe men can just compartmentalize so much better.  They're able to "turn off" that part of their thinking.  I wish I had that ability!! How wonderful would that be to just turn off the pain every now and then?  But when he flipped that switch to on OMG it was a flood of anger and sadness.  And that made me just cry even harder to know that he does get it.  It's just in a different way.  

    I hate that it took a fight for me to see it.  And yes - you are correct that they don't get how we handle IF.  But they do experience it too, just in a different way. 


    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
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  • imagekatib77:

    See, I thought that.  But then the day of my baseline I made an off handed comment and it turned into a huge argument.  In the middle of the argument I realized I had assumed he didn't understand or even feel half as bad as I did.  But the truth is he does.  He just processes anger, pain, and grief - differently.  

    I believe men can just compartmentalize so much better.  They're able to "turn off" that part of their thinking.  I wish I had that ability!! How wonderful would that be to just turn off the pain every now and then?  But when he flipped that switch to on OMG it was a flood of anger and sadness.  And that made me just cry even harder to know that he does get it.  It's just in a different way.  

    I hate that it took a fight for me to see it.  And yes - you are correct that they don't get how we handle IF.  But they do experience it too, just in a different way. 

    thanks for this, very good point!

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  • I know how you feel. My emotions are too raw right now to elaborate but know that I commiserate.
    Married since June 2008

    Systemic Lupus Erythematosus
    TTC Post Chemotherapy
    Unexplained Infertility

    DH- SA Normal, Lap on 8/8/13
    BFP! 11/7/13 EDD 07/15/14 changed to 07/23/14 after first u/s

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  • Oh do I understand this!!

     

    I have had a hard time this week and just needed a little extra love and support this week.  (Ovidrel makes me weepy/bitchy)  and I calmly explained this too him and all he could talk about was how stressed he was at work....

    I wanted to kick him.

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    Me DX: Hashimotos,Hypothyroid, DOR, MTHFR,  DH: normal

     IUI #1-#4 BFNs and a few cancelled cycles in the mix.
    - poor responder
    ***Suprise BFP on 6/13/13. Natural MC @6wks 3days
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    2nd beta- 2166
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  • imageLuClo:

    Yup.  DH 'gets it' and is supportive.  He's had his share of moments when he's overwhelmed and broke down.  But on the day-to-day he doesn't always seem to understand how hard it is to get away from.  

    After we decided to do IVF, there was one day when I had to coordinate bloodwork, drug delivery, insurance approval, injection training and time off work (all while at work and trying to get my job done).  I kept pushing him for which day he was available to sign for the delivery and go with me to the class.  He was being non-committal and saw no urgency.  I was getting persistent because we had a very small window to get in for this cycle.  Finally he said I needed to stop making it such a thing and just let it happen.  I. lost. it.  I told him that obviously I want it to "just happen" but for us it is never going to "just happen".  If we wait for it to "just happen" we will never have kids.  This is the boat we're in and if he wants to have children then this is what it takes and he needs to give me a f*cking date.        He's been a little more cautious since then. 

    Thank you to all the ladies, and thank you LuClo - I really identify with "the day-to-day he doesn't understand."   

    TTC#1
    Dx PCOS @ 16y.o
    9/2011: unplanned natural conception and MC @ 6weeks Cycle 1: 12/2012: TI & 2000MG Metformin & 100MG Clomid = CP
    Functional Cyst - fixed with 2wks BCP
    Cycle 2: 1/31/13: IUI #1
    Meds:2000MG Metformin, 100MG Clomid, HSG/Trigger, Provera 400mg 2DPIUI
    Stats: SA 20mil & 63% mot/follicles (as per 1/30 u/s): 22, 13, 14
    BFP! Beta #1 13DPiui: 79! Beta #2 15DPiui: 164! Beta#3 19DPIUI: 773! First US scheduled 3/5! EDD Oct 23!
    Lilypie Pregnancy tickers
    S/PAIF Welcome - You girls give me HOPE!
    Herbal Supplements: 1800mg NAC, Fish Oil, Vitamin D, Baby Asprin, Folguard, Multivitamin
  • imageNYCGal276:

    Thank you to all the ladies, and thank you LuClo - I really identify with "the day-to-day he doesn't understand."   

    There's a lot of value in what Katib said.  At the end of the day, I know DH is impacted and is dealing with his own emotions in his own way.  I know he cares and this is just as important to him as it is to me.  Hell, some days it's more important.  But aside from compartmentalizing emotions, he can get away from it some times and I'm always with my body.  That's what I meant by the day-to-day.  We're both living with IF, but last night while I injected myself he was at the bar with friends.  
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  • I know DH wants a baby too, I just wish he wanted it as much as I did. We've been trying for over 3 years now and we're at the point we need to talk about IVF. Our insurance doesn't cover IVF. I would spend the money for IVF without a second thought, but he doesn't really see the point of paying all that money with no guarantee of getting a baby.

    I don't know where to go from here as I really want to attempt IVF at least once. He says he'd be fine if a baby isn't in our future. I love DH, but the idea of not having kids kills me.

    Any thoughts, advice...help of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
  • imageEJZigg:
    I know DH wants a baby too, I just wish he wanted it as much as I did. We've been trying for over 3 years now and we're at the point we need to talk about IVF. Our insurance doesn't cover IVF. I would spend the money for IVF without a second thought, but he doesn't really see the point of paying all that money with no guarantee of getting a baby. I don't know where to go from here as I really want to attempt IVF at least once. He says he'd be fine if a baby isn't in our future. I love DH, but the idea of not having kids kills me. Any thoughts, advice...help of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

    Find a good therapist who specializes in IF (see if your RE office can recommend someone).  This process is hard enough.  You and your partner really need to be on the same team or it will rip you apart.  You could try and have those conversations on your own without a therapist, but in my experience desire to have a baby = intense emotion; intense emotion = compromised ability to communicate effectively.  It's good to have a neutral person to help keep you both on track.

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