:::::Crazy Train:::::

GavinRonansMom

The train has a new conductor....GRM is leading the way I will be running the Tues/TH/Weekend. Please have patience as I take on my new role. I will try and post in the mornings and check throughout the day, but a lot of responses might come in the late afternoon or early evening after work.

Edit: trying to figure out picture! ugh!!

 

This is the place to vent about your cycle, symptoms, MF, obsessive FF checking, 5DPO BFN's, and all things TTCAL that are driving you completely out of your mind!

 

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10:

 

CD and/or DPO:

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?!

 

Signs & Symptoms:

 

Additional crazy here:

GavinRonansMom

mdharrison:

Thanks for taking this over, GRM.  Much appreciated!  

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10:  0, -1 if it existed

 

CD and/or DPO:  CD 1

To AF:

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?!  Nothing, I've got nothing.

 

Signs & Symptoms:  Nadda, just having horrible cramps and hemorrhaging out of my ladyjunk, the usual.

 

Additional crazy here: 

 

Oh MD I am sorry . I was so hopeful for you. I hope AF is kind to you.

I really wish I had your gif skills, I am super jealous, you must teach me!

KatieintheCity

mdharrison:

CD and/or DPO:  CD 1

:-( I'm so sorry md. {{hugs}}

KatieintheCity

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 6ish. Slowly increasing.

CD and/or DPO: CD21/6 DPO

Can I just ___________ already?!?! POAS?

Signs & Symptoms: Nothing to speak of.

Additional crazy here: I had some weird twinges around my belly button this morning, but it's obviously too early (and probably the totally wrong location too) but of course that's the first thing I thought of... sigh.

ashx3renee

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 1

CD and/or DPO: CD2

Can I just ___get this cycle over_____ already?!?! .. not really, I'm not THAT impatient. 

Signs & Symptoms: Pretty severe cramping and a steady flow. 

Additional crazy here: Nothing really. Really didn't miss these AF cramps. Now that she's here I can't wait until she leaves again!

klbowie

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 8

 

CD and/or DPO: CD13

 

Can I just __get a + OPK and O___lready?!?!

 

Signs & Symptoms: Nothing.  I thought I had O cramping earlier and I didn't so not sure about anything now. 

 

Additional crazy here: Last cycle my chart was so pretty!  This cycle is is up an down and all over and I have even been temping at the same time.  If I don't O by tomorrow then I am sure I am out this cycle and next do to DH being out of town.  Bums me out big time but there isn't a d*mn thing I can do about it.  

lolee465

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10:5

 

CD and/or DPO: cd6

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: none

 

Additional crazy here: This is my first month using a cbefm that I ordered online and paid a ridiculous amount of money to have it sent next day shipping so I could use it this month. Today is my first day poas for it, which is earlier then I usually start opk's since I don't O until cd21. It's so early and I wish I wasn't already feeling the crazy. I'm trying so hard to distract myself, but it's hard. I wish I could just fast forward time to whenever it is that I get to be happy and stop thinking about this every second.

Eta: Oh and to add to my crazy..yesterday I was changing cd 1 to spotting to see when possible O date could be, which is stupid since it would be just a day later. Anyway, I went to change it back and it messed up my entire chart. I ended up with a bunch of cd1's. I was so upset I emailed FF customer service explaining what happened, ending with "Please help me fix it?!!!" I was panicked, not sure why. Well, anyway I fixed it a few minutes later. About a half hour later I got a response from FF that said "I think you fixed it, I do not see that right now. Best wishes" Even though I'm an idiot I thought it was pretty cool how quickly they got back to me, and it seemed like it was an actual person responding- not an automated response.

Mrs.E.07

Thanks for running the crazy train, GRM!

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 10

 

CD and/or DPO: CD25/10DPO

 

Can I just _____get a BFP______ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: my temps are super high, in fact the only time they were this high was on my BFP cycle. But I got a BFFFFN this morning. So obviously the high temps aren't caused by a pregnancy. I know you're not out until AF shows but it's hard not to feel like I'm out.

 

lolee465

Mrs.E.07:

Signs & Symptoms: my temps are super high, in fact the only time they were this high was on my BFP cycle. But I got a BFFFFN this morning. So obviously the high temps aren't caused by a pregnancy. I know you're not out until AF shows but it's hard not to feel like I'm out.

 

Huge ((hugs)) BFN's are so hard to see. Fx that you're not out though, cd 10 is still pretty early.

layali

 

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: (4 and rising).

 

CD and/or DPO: CD 29/10 DPO

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?! finish this cycle!

 

Signs & Symptoms:

My temps dropped below coverline this morning, so I know AF is on her way. I haven't had any spotting yet which is a relief - last cycle I spotted starting at 7DPO until AF came at 10 DPO. I was hoping I'd be one of those lucky ladies that gets KU immediately following a loss, but I'm not surprised or horribly disappointed that it's not to be. I haven't been at it long enough to earn the right to whine!

 

Additional crazy here:

*** previous m/c mentioned ***

 

 

 

I'm worried about my LP. I gave up on temping after my chemical pregnancy because it was making me crazy - but before that, I never had a LP past 10 days (which is why I tested at 10DPO and the only reason I know I had a CP). So - it's possible that my LP lengthened after that and I just don't know. Now, not knowing is making me crazy and wondering if I have low progesterone and if it caused the miscarriage in November.

I've wondered about progesterone since we started TTC. My first OB/GYN was really dismissive of my concerns about my pre-AF spotting, using OPKs, and temping.... so I didn't push the issue and found myself a different doctor. It was refreshing and relieving that my new doctor was excited to see I was charting and wanted to look at it with me!

 

 

layali

{{hugs}} MD. I loved your gifs, though!

klbowie

Mrs.E.07:

Thanks for running the crazy train, GRM!

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 10

 

CD and/or DPO: CD25/10DPO

 

Can I just _____get a BFP______ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: my temps are super high, in fact the only time they were this high was on my BFP cycle. But I got a BFFFFN this morning. So obviously the high temps aren't caused by a pregnancy. I know you're not out until AF shows but it's hard not to feel like I'm out.

 

I know you aren't feeling good about this cycle but I am going to keep up the hope!  It is only 10DPO and still early I think you have a great chance this cycle. I have everything crossed for.   

GavinRonansMom

KatieintheCity:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 6ish. Slowly increasing.

CD and/or DPO: CD21/6 DPO

Can I just ___________ already?!?! POAS?

Signs & Symptoms: Nothing to speak of.

Additional crazy here: I had some weird twinges around my belly button this morning, but it's obviously too early (and probably the totally wrong location too) but of course that's the first thing I thought of... sigh.

Almost there, almost there! Hold off. When are you planning on testing?

GavinRonansMom

ashx3renee:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 1

CD and/or DPO: CD2

Can I just ___get this cycle over_____ already?!?! .. not really, I'm not THAT impatient. 

Signs & Symptoms: Pretty severe cramping and a steady flow. 

Additional crazy here: Nothing really. Really didn't miss these AF cramps. Now that she's here I can't wait until she leaves again!

I am sorry AF is being bitcchy...can you try this cycle or next?

Mrs.E.07

thanks lolee and kl! I know, rationally, that I'm not out. It's just so discouraging, I always lose hope after a BFN, even if it's early. My BFP cycle, my first test was positive, so for me, a BFN has always meant not pregnant!

GavinRonansMom

klbowie:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 8

 

CD and/or DPO: CD13

 

Can I just __get a + OPK and O___lready?!?!

 

Signs & Symptoms: Nothing.  I thought I had O cramping earlier and I didn't so not sure about anything now. 

 

Additional crazy here: Last cycle my chart was so pretty!  This cycle is is up an down and all over and I have even been temping at the same time.  If I don't O by tomorrow then I am sure I am out this cycle and next do to DH being out of town.  Bums me out big time but there isn't a d*mn thing I can do about it.  

I am sorry your chart is not looking as pretty. I hope you get a +opk today so you aren't out. FX

GavinRonansMom

snegde:

Thanks GRM for leading us! MD I really wanted this to be it. Which is stupid because so did you. What I'm trying to say is I'm sorry. It sucks. Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: solid 5 not too crazy just crazy enough. CD and/or DPO: I don't remember 8DPO? Can I just POAS already?!? Signs amp; Symptoms: nothing PG/AF related. DH has the flu so I am contemplating moving into a hotel room but it's probably already too late and its just a matter of time. Additional crazy here: I am back to sleeping poorly after 2 nights of decent sleep. And I had a big temp drop. I know I have open circles all temps are between 4:45 and 6:15 because of my insomnia.

If you don't remember your dpo I'd say that's great ha! When are you planning on testing? Not having good sleep can fluck your chart up. Try to not stress over it (I know this is almost impossible, or at least is for me!)

GavinRonansMom

lolee465:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10:5

 

CD and/or DPO: cd6

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: none

 

Additional crazy here: This is my first month using a cbefm that I ordered online and paid a ridiculous amount of money to have it sent next day shipping so I could use it this month. Today is my first day poas for it, which is earlier then I usually start opk's since I don't O until cd21. It's so early and I wish I wasn't already feeling the crazy. I'm trying so hard to distract myself, but it's hard. I wish I could just fast forward time to whenever it is that I get to be happy and stop thinking about this every second.

Eta: Oh and to add to my crazy..yesterday I was changing cd 1 to spotting to see when possible O date could be, which is stupid since it would be just a day later. Anyway, I went to change it back and it messed up my entire chart. I ended up with a bunch of cd1's. I was so upset I emailed FF customer service explaining what happened, ending with "Please help me fix it?!!!" I was panicked, not sure why. Well, anyway I fixed it a few minutes later. About a half hour later I got a response from FF that said "I think you fixed it, I do not see that right now. Best wishes" Even though I'm an idiot I thought it was pretty cool how quickly they got back to me, and it seemed like it was an actual person responding- not an automated response.

The CBEFM takes the first month to "get to know you" you might be peeing on sticks for a while if you usually O on CD21, but that's ok. I hope the monitor helps you relax alittle, it really helped me this month. You are right, it does take up a lot of thinknig time, but I hope it gets better! GL

GavinRonansMom

Mrs.E.07:

Thanks for running the crazy train, GRM!

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 10

 

CD and/or DPO: CD25/10DPO

 

Can I just _____get a BFP______ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: my temps are super high, in fact the only time they were this high was on my BFP cycle. But I got a BFFFFN this morning. So obviously the high temps aren't caused by a pregnancy. I know you're not out until AF shows but it's hard not to feel like I'm out.

 

GavinRonansMom

Mrs.E.07:

Thanks for running the crazy train, GRM!

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 10

 

CD and/or DPO: CD25/10DPO

 

Can I just _____get a BFP______ already?!?! get pregnant this cycle, pretty please?!!

 

Signs & Symptoms: my temps are super high, in fact the only time they were this high was on my BFP cycle. But I got a BFFFFN this morning. So obviously the high temps aren't caused by a pregnancy. I know you're not out until AF shows but it's hard not to feel like I'm out.

 

I understand how hard it is, but try not to get upset yet, 10dpo is very early! FX

KatieintheCity

GavinRonansMom:

KatieintheCity:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 6ish. Slowly increasing.

CD and/or DPO: CD21/6 DPO

Can I just ___________ already?!?! POAS?

Signs & Symptoms: Nothing to speak of.

Additional crazy here: I had some weird twinges around my belly button this morning, but it's obviously too early (and probably the totally wrong location too) but of course that's the first thing I thought of... sigh.

Almost there, almost there! Hold off. When are you planning on testing?

My goal is to hold off until next Wednesday (12 DPO)... 

losersaidwhat

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 3 - fairly mild... Who am I kidding? It's up to 7-8 now

CD and/or DPO: CD42

Can I just ______ already?!?! Fix my ute goggles/stop being so impatient/make it to next week

Signs & Symptoms: I've been sick (sinus type cold) for most of the week so if I have any symptoms, they're pretty masked.

Additional crazy here: I am obsessed with CM so standby for TMI. The only indication I have of any possibility of Oing has been through CM because I'm not temping. 

Here is my chart (for the CM tracking): https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41415f

It seems like I could have O'd around either CD25 or shortly after, OR CD35ish. There was a distinct increase in CM on CD21-22 and CD23 was EWCM with a smear of blood but I didn't spot further than just one wipe. Then it got mostly sticky/kinda wet followed by a good run of EWCM from CD32-35. After that it's just been on the dry-er side of sticky.

I've had 4 negative HPTs (and two invalid), the last being on CD37, - but this last run of EWCM has thrown me for a loop because if I O'd later it was obviously too early to test. I'm kicking myself right now for not temping because it might have given me a clearer picture of what's going on.

Whatever is happening I'm trying to hold out until CD47 to test again, and I'm considering making an appointment with my doctor for around when CD60 would be. I feel like that would cover all of my bases for whatever is happening so that if AF hasn't shown up by then and I keep getting BFNs, we can discuss how to find out why/what to do. If I luck out and get a BFP then I'll already have the appointment booked and can get the ball rolling on blood tests etc.

If AF shows up before the appointment, I'm due for a check up by now anyway. 

ETA: Changed my crazy level after I finished writing all of that. 

lolee465

Mrs.E.07:

thanks lolee and kl! I know, rationally, that I'm not out. It's just so discouraging, I always lose hope after a BFN, even if it's early. My BFP cycle, my first test was positive, so for me, a BFN has always meant not pregnant!

I get that feeling after a bfn too, but then I spend forever looking up charts on fertility friend and see how many people get a negative before a positive and it makes me feel a little better.

GavinRonansMom

layali:

 

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: (4 and rising).

 

CD and/or DPO: CD 29/10 DPO

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?! finish this cycle!

 

Signs & Symptoms:

My temps dropped below coverline this morning, so I know AF is on her way. I haven't had any spotting yet which is a relief - last cycle I spotted starting at 7DPO until AF came at 10 DPO. I was hoping I'd be one of those lucky ladies that gets KU immediately following a loss, but I'm not surprised or horribly disappointed that it's not to be. I haven't been at it long enough to earn the right to whine!

 

Additional crazy here:

*** previous m/c mentioned ***

 

 

 

I'm worried about my LP. I gave up on temping after my chemical pregnancy because it was making me crazy - but before that, I never had a LP past 10 days (which is why I tested at 10DPO and the only reason I know I had a CP). So - it's possible that my LP lengthened after that and I just don't know. Now, not knowing is making me crazy and wondering if I have low progesterone and if it caused the miscarriage in November.

I've wondered about progesterone since we started TTC. My first OB/GYN was really dismissive of my concerns about my pre-AF spotting, using OPKs, and temping.... so I didn't push the issue and found myself a different doctor. It was refreshing and relieving that my new doctor was excited to see I was charting and wanted to look at it with me!

 

 

I am sorry about your temp drop and that it seems AF is on her way. I would talk to your doctor again. You are your advocate. If you feel that progestrone is something that you want to look into (I have no experience with it, but many ladies do) I would speak up. If your doctor will not look into it, you might want to consider finding one that will listen to your concerns. GL!

layali

GavinRonansMom:

layali:

 

 (snipping my babble - too long!)

I am sorry about your temp drop and that it seems AF is on her way. I would talk to your doctor again. You are your advocate. If you feel that progestrone is something that you want to look into (I have no experience with it, but many ladies do) I would speak up. If your doctor will not look into it, you might want to consider finding one that will listen to your concerns. GL!

 

Thank you for the encouragement! I am much more comfortable with my current doc and plan to ask her about it at my next appointment (in 2 weeks). After rereading the thread about the debate regarding the usefulness of progesterone during the 2ww, I am back at square one. I'll definitely let her know that it's on my mind.

GavinRonansMom

losersaidwhat:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 3 - fairly mild... Who am I kidding? It's up to 7-8 now

CD and/or DPO: CD42

Can I just ______ already?!?! Fix my ute goggles/stop being so impatient/make it to next week

Signs & Symptoms: I've been sick (sinus type cold) for most of the week so if I have any symptoms, they're pretty masked.

Additional crazy here: I am obsessed with CM so standby for TMI. The only indication I have of any possibility of Oing has been through CM because I'm not temping. 

Here is my chart (for the CM tracking): https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41415f

It seems like I could have O'd around either CD25 or shortly after, OR CD35ish. There was a distinct increase in CM on CD21-22 and CD23 was EWCM with a smear of blood but I didn't spot further than just one wipe. Then it got mostly sticky/kinda wet followed by a good run of EWCM from CD32-35. After that it's just been on the dry-er side of sticky.

I've had 4 negative HPTs (and two invalid), the last being on CD37, - but this last run of EWCM has thrown me for a loop because if I O'd later it was obviously too early to test. I'm kicking myself right now for not temping because it might have given me a clearer picture of what's going on.

Whatever is happening I'm trying to hold out until CD47 to test again, and I'm considering making an appointment with my doctor for around when CD60 would be. I feel like that would cover all of my bases for whatever is happening so that if AF hasn't shown up by then and I keep getting BFNs, we can discuss how to find out why/what to do. If I luck out and get a BFP then I'll already have the appointment booked and can get the ball rolling on blood tests etc.

If AF shows up before the appointment, I'm due for a check up by now anyway. 

ETA: Changed my crazy level after I finished writing all of that. 

I think edited your crazy was a good choice haha...did you use opks or anything or are you guessing aboutyour O based on your CM? Having several patched of cm in longer cycles can happen (no experience myself, but I have seen several women on here). I agree making an appointment with your doctor would be good. I would try and hold out until CD 50 if you *think* CD 37 could have been a possible O date. Not knowing what's going on can be so frustraing I am sorry

losersaidwhat

GavinRonansMom:

losersaidwhat:

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I think edited your crazy was a good choice haha...did you use opks or anything or are you guessing aboutyour O based on your CM? Having several patched of cm in longer cycles can happen (no experience myself, but I have seen several women on here). I agree making an appointment with your doctor would be good. I would try and hold out until CD 50 if you *think* CD 37 could have been a possible O date. Not knowing what's going on can be so frustraing I am sorry

Totally guessing. I really truly have no idea. I used 2 OPKs, both were negative, and they were really spread out, so it doesn't make sense to even count them as "using OPKs".

I'll try my best to hold out as long as I can to test and I probably won't make any appointments until around that time too just to give AF a little more time to think about showing up.

Even with all this I have to keep in mind that this is the period of time immediately following a m/c so my body is likely still adjusting and there is probably nothing wrong at all. 

GavinRonansMom

losersaidwhat:

GavinRonansMom:

losersaidwhat:

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I think edited your crazy was a good choice haha...did you use opks or anything or are you guessing aboutyour O based on your CM? Having several patched of cm in longer cycles can happen (no experience myself, but I have seen several women on here). I agree making an appointment with your doctor would be good. I would try and hold out until CD 50 if you *think* CD 37 could have been a possible O date. Not knowing what's going on can be so frustraing I am sorry

Totally guessing. I really truly have no idea. I used 2 OPKs, both were negative, and they were really spread out, so it doesn't make sense to even count them as "using OPKs".

I'll try my best to hold out as long as I can to test and I probably won't make any appointments until around that time too just to give AF a little more time to think about showing up.

Even with all this I have to keep in mind that this is the period of time immediately following a m/c so my body is likely still adjusting and there is probably nothing wrong at all. 

your probably right, your body is adjusting I am sure. You can still call your doctor around the 60 days mark for piece of mind. All doctors are different, mine would have given me something to start my period if I went more than 60 days. FX either AF shows, or you get a BFP...good luck!

Adam2010

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 7

 

CD and/or DPO: CD 18 or 19? I haven't really been keeping track and 8DPO I think. As you can tell I wasn't putting too much effort into it this month- kind of giving up hope

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?!    POAS

 

Signs & Symptoms: My boobs have hurt since this past weekend and I am very tired. But of course, these can all be signs of the lovely progesterone I am taking

 

Additional crazy here: I am pretty sure that I O'd early this month. The past few months have been on CD 18 and this time I had positive OPK's on CD 9 and 10. That is WAY early for me! I held off the progesterone until CD 18 or 19 trying to wait for another positive OPK on CD 18 but...nothin! That pee stick has not been positive since CD10 and even then it was one of those funky ones where it was only 1/2 dark so I didn't even know to count it as positive until someone else posted about it the other day Ugh...I am a hot mess this cycle! 

GavinRonansMom

Adam2010:

Your level of crazy on a scale of 1 to 10: 7

 

CD and/or DPO: CD 18 or 19? I haven't really been keeping track and 8DPO I think. As you can tell I wasn't putting too much effort into it this month- kind of giving up hope

 

Can I just ___________ already?!?!    POAS

 

Signs & Symptoms: My boobs have hurt since this past weekend and I am very tired. But of course, these can all be signs of the lovely progesterone I am taking

 

Additional crazy here: I am pretty sure that I O'd early this month. The past few months have been on CD 18 and this time I had positive OPK's on CD 9 and 10. That is WAY early for me! I held off the progesterone until CD 18 or 19 trying to wait for another positive OPK on CD 18 but...nothin! That pee stick has not been positive since CD10 and even then it was one of those funky ones where it was only 1/2 dark so I didn't even know to count it as positive until someone else posted about it the other day Ugh...I am a hot mess this cycle! 

I am sorry this cycle has been difficult for you. Do you chart? I know many say this is the best way to ensure that you have ovulated. Even I think it can be a pain, but if you are odd cycles it might help.

That being said I never used to chart, and even now I am not sure it is helpful anymore since I seem to be "regular" (I have O'd on the same day for the last 3 cycles and this one looks to be a day early), but I can't seem to stop ha.

GL! when are you planning on testing? I would think you might have O'd on CD 10 so you are 8 or 9 dpo. FX for you!