Jeffsjayme

MrsM507

sueann911:

krptcmschfmkr128:

jesselayne8:

Am I the only one who noticed she is taking clomid?? Who the f*ck gave you that? I responsible doctor I am sure.

 

 

What? Where are you seeing this? I side eyed her shiit up until now but is she seriously taking Clomid?

It's marked on her FF chart. Woah.

sueann911

MrsM507:

sueann911:

krptcmschfmkr128:

jesselayne8:

Am I the only one who noticed she is taking clomid?? Who the f*ck gave you that? I responsible doctor I am sure.

 

 

What? Where are you seeing this? I side eyed her shiit up until now but is she seriously taking Clomid?

It's marked on her FF chart. Woah.

I'm on mobile. I can't see her chart.

FFS, jayme, this is ridiculous. You don't have fertility issues. You have a case of cranialrectal inversion. Take your head out of your ass.

TrudyCampbell

Aaand she just asked this question (see below) about clomid to this board (in the newbie flame free playdate thread) two days ago so she clearly knows what she's doing. Anyone who actually is struggling with IF knows the answers to these questions all too well. 

.... 

Not a newbie question, but a question none-the-less.  Well, 2.  Both about Clomid.

1. When people say that they've triggered with Clomid, does that just mean a shot of something (HCG? - I know pg tests can pick it up) that forces any developed follicles to pop out?

2. If you 'trigger', then you would know that you ovulated, right?  But if you don't trigger, you're just kind of guessing (based upon temps?)  I know you can do 7 dpo blood work to check, but to know that you're 7dpo, you'd have to know the O date.  

AmandaR204

I agree that you should be enjoying your son, instead of moping around because you aren't pregnant again. I'm sure it's something you really want, I understand that but you are totally jumping the gun, you are also expecting people to walk on eggshells about abortion and pregnancy But lady you aren't walking on eggshells or being even slightly sensitive to women with actual problems conceiving. You want a baby, you have one, you want another you have to play the waiting game like EVERYONE ELSE! Your body isn't even back to normalcy yet...you had a baby less than a year ago!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You are also killing me with "I can't even go into a baby store"....WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE A BABY!  

mrs+harlow

Jayme, I hope amidst all this you see how insensitive and inflammatory your blog writing was to those who have genuinely struggled with conceiving. Instead of seeing your body as somehow betraying you postpartum, you need to realize your not conceiving yet most likely has to do with the fact you are 9 months postpartum. Your body isn't ready yet. Wouldn't you like to have the perfect balance in place conceiving your second that you did with your first? Many women won't get that chance much less a first shot. You come across as being some kind of martyr for infertility struggles, when that is most likely not the case. See things as glass half full, not empty. You have a beautiful child right NOW. Focus on that. These moments are fast and fleeting. Short yet sweet. I think maybe this is perhaps Divine Intervention trying to get you to enjoy the here and now. 

 Best wishes on your hopes to grow your family, but I hope you also are counting your blessings for that little one that loves you, needs you and wants to make happy memories with you now. 

kkfeb04

FFS, CLOMID?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

That flucking OB-GYN needs his/her license revoked. I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2004 and it still took me 3 years of TTC to get clomid.

 

YOU AREN'T IF JAYME!!!!!!! 

CMSullivan326

MrsM507:

sueann911:

krptcmschfmkr128:

jesselayne8:

Am I the only one who noticed she is taking clomid?? Who the f*ck gave you that? I responsible doctor I am sure.

What? Where are you seeing this? I side eyed her shiit up until now but is she seriously taking Clomid?

/p>

It's marked on her FF chart. Woah.

What the fuuuuuck?!?

rxbeth

mrs+harlow:

Jayme, I hope amidst all this you see how insensitive and inflammatory your blog writing was to those who have genuinely struggled with conceiving. Instead of seeing your body as somehow betraying you postpartum, you need to realize your not conceiving yet most likely has to do with the fact you are 9 months postpartum. Your body isn't ready yet. Wouldn't you like to have the perfect balance in place conceiving your second that you did with your first? Many women won't get that chance much less a first shot. You come across as being some kind of martyr for infertility struggles, when that is most likely not the case. See things as glass half full, not empty. You have a beautiful child right NOW. Focus on that. These moments are fast and fleeting. Short yet sweet. I think maybe this is perhaps Divine Intervention trying to get you to enjoy the here and now. 

 Best wishes on your hopes to grow your family, but I hope you also are counting your blessings for that little one that loves you, needs you and wants to make happy memories with you now. 

Words of wisdom. 

JGior1031

Butting in from IF
Jeffsjayme I'm not sure if you realize how insensitive your words can sound. To blog about your body betraying you 9 months after having your son just makes my blood boil!!! I would KILL to TTC 2, sadly mine and DH's bodies are betraying us and are making having baby 1 very difficult. And my IF story TTC1 for 2 years isn't even close to being as difficult and struggled as many other couples.
The pp's are 100 correct in saying your blog post was written insensitively and a little bragging.
Unfortunately people who are not having TTTC or IF do not realize how their words can sound.
My cousin, who is like a sister to me and I adore and happens to be very fertile, said something to me the other day that cause me to cry and not speak to her for a few days. While it was meant innocently, she said she wished she could be like me and not have to worry about getting pregnant because every time her husband goes near her she gets pregnant.
I know she wasn't trying to hurt me but she didn't realize how her words sounded and hurt.
Please think about your words.
I wish you the best in you journey.

bornmommy

Emerald27:

jeffsjayme:

Where in the world did this come from?I've been very clear that I have a 9 month old and that I'm trying to get pregnant again see tickers. nbsp;And I never called my self infertile, just that I wasn't pregnant when I wanted to be who can't relate to that when you've been trying for a few months?This really has nothing to do with you guys at all and I'm not sure why all the anger.nbsp;

No anger from me, just shock. You've read the posts from women who have been trying for a long time. Your blog post strikes me as insensitive. The insensitivity doesn't come from any claim of yours to be "infertile", but your language about feeling betrayed by your body. Too strong and too soon, completely insensitive.

 

jeffsjayme

FFS people.

Notice how many of these comments are from women who have April 2012 babies?  I did something to piss them off long ago (and rightfully so, I guess).

1) I have been TTC since my son was born.  With full blessing from my OB.  Do you think all 2u1 or 2u2s are accidents?  They aren't.

2) I do feel like my body is betraying me by not ovulating.  I know that things can be wonky for a long time after a pregnancy, but it doesn't stop my feeling that I want things to be different.  Other posts of mine for the blog are on the importance of charting since cycles can be so strange post-baby.  https://blog.thebump.com/2012/10/26/trying-to-conceive-why-i-love-charting/

 

3) I do not feel like I'm infertile.  There's a reason that I'm posting on TTGP and not Secondary IF nor T-TTC.

4) Thebump mods made the title "When Trying to Conceive Feels Like a Battle You Just Can?t Win" - not me.  If you read my blog post it's about MY feelings about not ovulating.  

5) I don't feel anymore "entitled" to have a baby than any other mom who already has a child.  Should they not want another child just because they have one already?

6) I didn't make the comment that I don't shop in baby stores..if you posted the full link, you would've seen that the OP said something that she gets sad going into baby stores.  My advice: Don't go into baby stores.

7) I'm sorry that my post came off as insensitive.  It's not meant to be.  It's meant to post a blogpost about how women who want to be pregnant, but aren't can feel.  Ask any woman who has been TTC for 8 months, who isn't ovulating regularly and see how she feels.  I don't think women who have been TTC for 12 months, but not 8 are allowed to feel that.

8) I have a diagnosis of PCOS.  Since I was 14.  Never got my period after the first time I got my period.  Was on Provera for 15 years to start a period.  Then my cycles "came back" once I lost 100+ pounds.  I'm not good at finding threads, but I posted about that, asking for advice on when to see someone since I didn't know how long you wait after birth for cycles to return AND how long you have to keep trying before you can be diagnosed Secondary IF.  General answer that I got on this board is that I'd be okay to schedule an appointment with my OB.  So I did once my last cycle ended.  Found the link: https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/71036371.aspx

9) I am on Clomid.  Just started this cycle since my last cycle either was anovulatory or had a 3-day LP.  I am being fully monitored with CD3 bloodwork, a mid-cycle ultrasound, 7 dpo bloodwork.  I wrote my question generically on the Newbie Playdate thread to make it more applicable to people, not just myself.  My concern was really about how they calculate that you're 7dpo if you're not certain when O was.  The answer?  Assume 36 hours after trigger.

So, in summary, I'm guilty of being insensitive, for which I apologize for. Really not my intent.  Intent was to communicate that people aren't alone in feeling betrayed.

But I'm not guilty of:

-Feeling entitled more than anyone else TFAS.

-Wanting another child soon after my last one.

-Claiming to be infertile 

 

ETA: to make links clickable

creamsiclechica

I come a place that took 5 total years and medical intervention to conceive my miracle daughter, and appalled at the audacity you have to be so insensitive and selfish when discussing IF.  I'm from your original BMB, and I remember being disturbed by your lamenting 2 months PP, but this is outrageous.  If your body is betraying you, what exactly was mine doing for all those difficult years of trying without success?  You need thank your lucky stars that you've been given the incredible opportunity to birth and raise ONE child, because there are thousands out there who literally give their all physically, financially, and emotionally to have the opportunity you fell upon in one flucking cycle.  You have spent the majority of your sweet baby's life coveting another, and that's something you should be ashamed of as a mother. 

Although I remain hopeful to expand my family, I am faced with the reality of never again being able to conceive a child, given the fact I was told I'd never conceive or carry in the first place.  Instead of dwelling on a certainty much more likely than yours, I relish in the realization of the incredible gift I've already been given, and I'm satisfied.  I mourn for those suffering the heartache of real and true infertility, which is a brutal hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. 

That is except for maybe you, the faker, the self absorbed and greedy masquerader who already has more than those much more worthy.

Your doctor should be barred from medicine for administering clomid to you.  Greed apparently has no bounds, for both of you.

Rot in hell, and shame on you, bump.com, for allowing such a sham to be highlighted when you have so many amazing examples of courage, strength, and perseverance that would have served much better to be chosen. 

No wonder your members are making themselves scarce.

MikeHoncho

I get what you're saying jj but at the same time it feels a bit like you are sorry that you're not sorry. "Hey I'm really sorry I came off like an ashole but here's a million reasons why I'm not reaaallly an ashole" it doesn't sound very sincere to me.

Ps I'm pretty sure you never apologized to biblio.

TrudyCampbell

No one said 2u1 or 2u2 are always accidents. In fact, I plan on TTC #2 soon and I would love to have 2u2. But if it doesn't work out for me right away I would never make others feel guilty for talking about their pregnancy (like you did on April 2012 when your son was only 2 months old) and I would never claim that my body was betraying me. 

Since you do have PCOS you should realize how truly blessed you are to have conceived your son on the 1st try. That's really lucky for someone with PCOS. I know you said in your blog that it wasn't all luck, but mostly everyone struggling with IF is (or was for a very long time) charting and it didn't get them pregnant. 

And I am still giving your OB the side eye for prescribing clomid to someone who just gave birth 9 months ago and had zero trouble getting pregnant. I am very glad to hear you're being closely monitored on it. 

Best of luck to you.  

 

Oh, and Creamsicle, I love you!  

jeffsjayme

MikeHoncho:

I get what you're saying jj but at the same time it feels a bit like you are sorry that you're not sorry. "Hey I'm really sorry I came off like an ashole but here's a million reasons why I'm not reaaallly an ashole" it doesn't sound very sincere to me. Ps I'm pretty sure you never apologized to biblio.

That one is truly my 1 regret in all this.  I badly worded my post to her in my anger and frustration and my concern was somewhat with other people, not just myself, but definitely myself too.  To have someone say that they were going to possibly get an abortion when I was TTC really made me ... I don't know?  Sad?  Angry?  Frustrated?  Emotional?  I'm not sure what the right word is.  I did not react well and my attitude was definitely selfish.

I should have apologized and I'll gladly do so if someone will PM me her full name (if she's willing and still on here). After that, I left the BMB, as it was clear to me that I was too emotionally invested (? Not sure that's the right word either) in the situation.

AshleyDG83

jeffsjayme:

MikeHoncho:

I get what you're saying jj but at the same time it feels a bit like you are sorry that you're not sorry. "Hey I'm really sorry I came off like an ashole but here's a million reasons why I'm not reaaallly an ashole" it doesn't sound very sincere to me. Ps I'm pretty sure you never apologized to biblio.

That one is truly my 1 regret in all this.  I badly worded my post to her in my anger and frustration and my concern was somewhat with other people, not just myself, but definitely myself too.  To have someone say that they were going to possibly get an abortion when I was TTC really made me ... I don't know?  Sad?  Angry?  Frustrated?  Emotional?  I'm not sure what the right word is.  I did not react well and my attitude was definitely selfish.

I should have apologized and I'll gladly do so if someone will PM me her full name (if she's willing and still on here). After that, I left the BMB, as it was clear to me that I was too emotionally invested (? Not sure that's the right word either) in the situation.

So even though you offended a bunch of people, that's your ONLY regret? You need to step back and take in what people are trying to get across to you.

TrudyCampbell

Biblio posted in this thread if you want to PM her. 

ETA and you make it sound so much different than it was. If she had been pregnant it would have been life threatening, like she could have DIED. This wasn't some dirtbag who just didn't feel like being pregnant.  

jeffsjayme

AshleyDG83:

jeffsjayme:

MikeHoncho:

I get what you're saying jj but at the same time it feels a bit like you are sorry that you're not sorry. "Hey I'm really sorry I came off like an ashole but here's a million reasons why I'm not reaaallly an ashole" it doesn't sound very sincere to me. Ps I'm pretty sure you never apologized to biblio.

That one is truly my 1 regret in all this.  I badly worded my post to her in my anger and frustration and my concern was somewhat with other people, not just myself, but definitely myself too.  To have someone say that they were going to possibly get an abortion when I was TTC really made me ... I don't know?  Sad?  Angry?  Frustrated?  Emotional?  I'm not sure what the right word is.  I did not react well and my attitude was definitely selfish.

I should have apologized and I'll gladly do so if someone will PM me her full name (if she's willing and still on here). After that, I left the BMB, as it was clear to me that I was too emotionally invested (? Not sure that's the right word either) in the situation.

So even though you offended a bunch of people, that's your ONLY regret? You need to step back and take in what people are trying to get across to you.

I meant my 1 regret in the BMB falling out/relationships.  I had already apologized for being insensitive in my blog post.  What else should I regret?

kkfeb04

Boy does it stink in here? There's a large pile of fuckiing sh!t. JJ, you are a piss poor liar. Shame on you. You've been called out multiple times and now you play the PCOS card? First time TTC and you got pregnant. Congrats. Claiming your cycles weren't regular prior to your poor son being born...YOU STATED THEY WERE.

The bump NEVER FORGETS. You are extremely insensitive in your blog. No amount of backpedaling will help you.

Maybe April 2012 is here because we have dealt with your condescending a ss before.

jacka02

You should regret being way too hard on your body, and under appreciating special moments with your first born instead of an unnecessary pity party.

mrs+harlow

jeffsjayme:

AshleyDG83:

jeffsjayme:

MikeHoncho:

I get what you're saying jj but at the same time it feels a bit like you are sorry that you're not sorry. "Hey I'm really sorry I came off like an ashole but here's a million reasons why I'm not reaaallly an ashole" it doesn't sound very sincere to me. Ps I'm pretty sure you never apologized to biblio.

That one is truly my 1 regret in all this.  I badly worded my post to her in my anger and frustration and my concern was somewhat with other people, not just myself, but definitely myself too.  To have someone say that they were going to possibly get an abortion when I was TTC really made me ... I don't know?  Sad?  Angry?  Frustrated?  Emotional?  I'm not sure what the right word is.  I did not react well and my attitude was definitely selfish.

I should have apologized and I'll gladly do so if someone will PM me her full name (if she's willing and still on here). After that, I left the BMB, as it was clear to me that I was too emotionally invested (? Not sure that's the right word either) in the situation.

So even though you offended a bunch of people, that's your ONLY regret? You need to step back and take in what people are trying to get across to you.

I meant my 1 regret in the BMB falling out/relationships.  I had already apologized for being insensitive in my blog post.  What else should I regret?

Eh. That you seemingly spend so much time being obsessed with trying to conceive #2 that your firstborn seems left in the dust? It seems like you are constantly...AND ONWARD to NUMBER TWO since we gave birth. Forward, MARCH!!! That's how it all comes across. 

Tambcat

You are obsessed. I hope you are seeking psychological help as well as gynecological.

Twinkie0612

jeffsjayme:

9) I am on Clomid.  Just started this cycle since my last cycle either was anovulatory or had a 3-day LP.  I am being fully monitored with CD3 bloodwork, a mid-cycle ultrasound, 7 dpo bloodwork.  I wrote my question generically on the Newbie Playdate thread to make it more applicable to people, not just myself.  My concern was really about how they calculate that you're 7dpo if you're not certain when O was.  The answer?  Assume 36 hours after trigger.

Did you have all of the basic IF testing done before starting clomid?  Have you had a HSG?  Has your DH had a SA done?  

Monkeybabe

Uh, did you purchase your clomid in Mexico? Because that sh!t sounds fishy as hobo poop next to a seafood restaurant's dumpster. 

TrudyCampbell

Also, next time you need a distraction, instead of watching Netflix you should go lurk on the TTTC and IF boards for a little perspective. 

Or you could just go hug your infant. 

eav2c

Monkeybabe:

Uh, did you purchase your clomid in Mexico? Because that sh!t sounds fishy as hobo poop next to a seafood restaurant's dumpster. 

 

 

kkfeb04

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

KFCupcake

Monkeybabe:

Uh, did you purchase your clomid in Mexico? Because that sh!t sounds fishy as hobo poop next to a seafood restaurant's dumpster. 

High Five!

 

I haven't been to The Bump in months.  This thread is a perfect example for what a craphole this site has become.   While I think JJ is completely wrong and totally self-absorbed, I think TB is just as wrong for feeding her ego and making a lot of women struggling with TTC feel even worse.

To all of you REALLY struggling with fertility, I wish you all good luck. 

jacka02

Monkeybabe:

Uh, did you purchase your clomid in Mexico? Because that sh!t sounds fishy as hobo poop next to a seafood restaurant's dumpster. 

 

sniff sniff. Eww 

erniebufflo

krptcmschfmkr128:

kkfeb04:

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

These sort of stories are the reason that, if H and I make it to the 1 year TTC mark we will wait for testing a bit longer. We have already conceived one child without intervention. There is no reason to take the time and resources of doctors who truly need it for their first just because we want a second. I am on month 7 TTC LO2 and I don't think my body has betrayed me. I already have one LO to show me it does indeed work. JJ even if this post is the BMB biitching you out for something, you still went above and beyond what is acceptable with your post.

The only beef our board has with her is a pattern of behavior concerning her desire to have a second baby since about 8 weeks postpartum, which, as I mentioned before, led her to be a total jerk to other posters, including the one who talked about terminating a life-threatening pregnancy. I also had a life-threatening pregnancy and wound up intubated in the ICU 4 days PP, and as a result have been told I should never be pregnant again if I value my life, and yet she had the audacity to act like talking about possibly terminating a pregnancy that would kill me is insensitive to her infertility. I would love to be able to have another pregnancy, but I never will. I try every day to remain grateful for the babies I was already blessed with.

Harper'smom

Tambcat:

You are obsessed. I hope you are seeking psychological help as well as gynecological.

1 closer to 100k Tamb...on with it!

 

But yeah J.J., the void you are trying to fill won't be cured with another baby, or another, or another. 

CMSullivan326

krptcmschfmkr128:

kkfeb04:

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

These sort of stories are the reason that, if H and I make it to the 1 year TTC mark we will wait for testing a bit longer. We have already conceived one child without intervention. There is no reason to take the time and resources of doctors for couples who truly need it for their first just because we want a second.

AGREED!
I honestly don't think we'll ever seek help from an RE or have any testing done. We have DS and as much as I'd love to have a least 1 more, if we don't, I'm ok with that. There are so many couples who truely need the help and I'd rather them have the opportunity.

hass2001

Monkeybabe:

Uh, did you purchase your clomid in Mexico? Because that sh!t sounds fishy as hobo poop next to a seafood restaurant's dumpster.nbsp;

Thank you!

And JJ how about you take a look at the big picture here. Seriously, being so obsessed about ttc that you are having to find ways to occupy yourself when you have a 9 month old beautiful child right in front of you is sad.

Twinkie0612

krptcmschfmkr128:

kkfeb04:

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

These sort of stories are the reason that, if H and I make it to the 1 year TTC mark we will wait for testing a bit longer. We have already conceived one child without intervention. There is no reason to take the time and resources of doctors for couples who truly need it for their first just because we want a second. I am on month 7 TTC LO2 and I don't think my body has betrayed me. I already have one LO to show me it does indeed work. JJ even if this post is the BMB biitching you out for something, you still went above and beyond what is acceptable with your post.

Secondary IF is a real and I would never expect someone to delay treatment because they already have a child.  Deciding when or if to seek treatment after hitting the year mark is a personal choice for each couple.

The BMB drama aside, my problem with Jeffsjayme is that she didn't go through the proper steps (or at least I assume she didn't since I didn't get a reply to my last post).  Most couples try for a year, then to through at least a cycle of testing before starting treatment.  I would assume that since she is in the middle of her first clomid cycle and her post about going to see her doc was from jan 5th, that she skipped the HSG and SA.  Testing is an important step.  Another part that is stressed over and over is the importance of seeing a RE.

Since she is blogging for the bump, I feel like she should set an example for women who are TTC and come to the bump for advice/answers.  Right now she seems to be telling women "hey if you are aren't getting pregnant fast enough, go to your OB and get some clomid, just make sure they monitor you." 

TrudyCampbell

Twinkie0612:

krptcmschfmkr128:

kkfeb04:

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

These sort of stories are the reason that, if H and I make it to the 1 year TTC mark we will wait for testing a bit longer. We have already conceived one child without intervention. There is no reason to take the time and resources of doctors for couples who truly need it for their first just because we want a second. I am on month 7 TTC LO2 and I don't think my body has betrayed me. I already have one LO to show me it does indeed work. JJ even if this post is the BMB biitching you out for something, you still went above and beyond what is acceptable with your post.

Secondary IF is a real and I would never expect someone to delay treatment because they already have a child.  Deciding when or if to seek treatment after hitting the year mark is a personal choice for each couple.

The BMB drama aside, my problem with Jeffsjayme is that she didn't go through the proper steps (or at least I assume she didn't since I didn't get a reply to my last post).  Most couples try for a year, then to through at least a cycle of testing before starting treatment.  I would assume that since she is in the middle of her first clomid cycle and her post about going to see her doc was from jan 5th, that she skipped the HSG and SA.  Testing is an important step.  Another part that is stressed over and over is the importance of seeing a RE.

Since she is blogging for the bump, I feel like she should set an example for women who are TTC and come to the bump for advice/answers.  Right now she seems to be telling women "hey if you are aren't getting pregnant fast enough, go to your OB and get some clomid, just make sure they monitor you." 

I agree with everything here. Would you really consider this to be secondary IF at this point though? It's so premature IMO.

Twinkie0612

TrudyCampbell:

Twinkie0612:

krptcmschfmkr128:

kkfeb04:

You know what you blame the bump for the title....you said your body was betraying you. Whose fault is that? 9 weeks pp you were b!tching about not being pregnant. Let me say this again slowly so that it can get into your head....3.5 long years with fertility meds. Still a shorter course than others. We started in Jan 2006 and stopped because we are OOP for any IF. You have no clue.

These sort of stories are the reason that, if H and I make it to the 1 year TTC mark we will wait for testing a bit longer. We have already conceived one child without intervention. There is no reason to take the time and resources of doctors for couples who truly need it for their first just because we want a second. I am on month 7 TTC LO2 and I don't think my body has betrayed me. I already have one LO to show me it does indeed work. JJ even if this post is the BMB biitching you out for something, you still went above and beyond what is acceptable with your post.

Secondary IF is a real and I would never expect someone to delay treatment because they already have a child.  Deciding when or if to seek treatment after hitting the year mark is a personal choice for each couple.

The BMB drama aside, my problem with Jeffsjayme is that she didn't go through the proper steps (or at least I assume she didn't since I didn't get a reply to my last post).  Most couples try for a year, then to through at least a cycle of testing before starting treatment.  I would assume that since she is in the middle of her first clomid cycle and her post about going to see her doc was from jan 5th, that she skipped the HSG and SA.  Testing is an important step.  Another part that is stressed over and over is the importance of seeing a RE.

Since she is blogging for the bump, I feel like she should set an example for women who are TTC and come to the bump for advice/answers.  Right now she seems to be telling women "hey if you are aren't getting pregnant fast enough, go to your OB and get some clomid, just make sure they monitor you." 

I agree with everything here. Would you really consider this to be secondary IF at this point though? It's so premature IMO.

No, I wouldn't.  I think she should give her body some time to regulate after having a baby.

I guess my point is that people are implying that women should just be happy that they have one baby and not take doctor's time away from us IF people TTC #1.  I think people have the right to seek treatment for secondary IF (if they truly are dealing with IF).  Why should me conceiving my first be more important than them conceiving their second or third?  

Mamasaurus

jeffsjayme:

But I'm not guilty of:

-Feeling entitled more than anyone else TFAS.

-Wanting another child soon after my last one.

-Claiming to be infertile

 

Lady, what are you  smoking? You contradict yourself, backpedal, and change your story again. Hug your baby and cross your legs. You may not think your body needs a break between kids, but it looks like your brain sure as hell does.

CMSullivan326

Mamasaurus:

jeffsjayme:

But I'm not guilty of:

-Feeling entitled more than anyone else TFAS.

-Wanting another child soon after my last one.

-Claiming to be infertile

 

Lady, what are you  smoking? You contradict yourself, backpedal, and change your story again. Hug your baby and cross your legs. You may not think your body needs a break between kids, but it looks like your brain sure as hell does.

Glad I'm not the only one that saw that.

snoangel79

Jayme, 

I'm a former April 12 and I'm sure you remember me. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT IS TO HAVE YOUR BODY BETRAY YOU (try cancer at 23, losing fertility from those treatments with your only way to have a baby is through donor eggs, and then your lung basically collapsing and not working so your stuck with one lung and have to chase after two young children). The stuff you say is an insult! I was on the IF board and if any of those ladies saw your article they would throw up in their mouths.... Be thankful for what you have!

I didn't prevent for 9 years after cancer treatments and got pregnant using donor eggs and IVF. Grow up! You have a beautiful child, enjoy that child. I have quite a few friends that are on IVF #3 or #4.... You have no clue about life and how truly lucky you are!

Twinkie0612

krptcmschfmkr128:

I didn't mean to imply secondary IF isn't a real thing or that people who want two children but only have one should be thankful for what they have. However, if you're going to start trying soon after your first child is born, you'd be an idiot not be prepared for it to take longer. Just because you're ready mentally (general you) doesn't mean your body is.  So rushing off to the RE after one year where you body may have only finally regulated itself say, 2 months beforehand, is premature. I think people need to be using common sense when it comes to these situations, and so do their doctors.

I completely agree that she needs to give her cycle time to regulate and I would guess that most REs would say the same.  I think her OB is completely ridiculous giving her clomid at this point.