How timely - a mercury-vaccination article

pdilly2b

Just ran into this on Slate - about how (methyl) mercury in fish is the kind to worry about, while the kind in thimerosol in vaccines (ethyl) mercury is harmless.  Since there was a thread a couple days ago about vaccine worries.

 

Sorry - don't know how to make clicky. 

 

https://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/new_scientist/2013/01/mercury_treaty_debate_should_thimerosal_be_banned_as_a_vaccine_preservative.html

 

 

Mrs E in Oregon

There is so much information out there it is hard to decide what to do. Often I find myself on the fence, usually I error on the side of caution / with homeopathy myself.

This came out yesterday:

Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus

Posted on:

Thursday, January 17th 2013 at 5:00 am

Written By:

Sayer Ji, Founder

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/studies-find-flu-shots-can-harm-your-heart-infant-and-fetus

 

3sthecharm

I personally will stick with vaccines. Disease is natural, I personally would rather not get the diseases

GraceInCA

Mrs E in Oregon:

There is so much information out there it is hard to decide what to do. Often I find myself on the fence, usually I error on the side of caution / with homeopathy myself.

This came out yesterday:

Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus

Posted on:

Thursday, January 17th 2013 at 5:00 am

Written By:

Sayer Ji, Founder

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/studies-find-flu-shots-can-harm-your-heart-infant-and-fetus

There's so much BS in that article, I don't even know where to begin. Yes I do, the very first sentence:
"Flu vaccines, according to the best scientific evidence available today, will only work against 10% of the circulating viruses that cause the symptoms of seasonal epidemic influenza."

WRONG.  Actual data:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2012-2013.htm

"Findings from early data suggest that this season?s vaccine so far is reducing the risk of having to go to the doctor for influenza by about 60% for vaccinated people. The data are published in ?Early Estimates of Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness ? United States, January 2013,? in the January 11, 2013, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.These estimates are within the range of what is expected during seasons when most circulating influenza viruses characterized by CDC are like the viruses included in the vaccine, which is what we are seeing this season. These findings also are similar to those published in a recent meta-analysis, which summarized the benefits of influenza vaccines using data from randomized controlled clinical trials. Influenza vaccination, even with moderate effectiveness of about 60%, has been shown to also reduce the following: flu-related illness, antibiotic use, time lost from work, hospitalizations, and deaths."

I really hate this pseudo-science BS that circulates and scares people out of vaccinating.

 

Also, do you even know what homeopathy is, or what it means? I have heard so many people use this term mistakenly believing it means some vague thing like "all natural remedies" or some such thing. Homeopathy is actually the notion that if you give a highly diluted version of something that will cause a similar undesired result in a healthy person, it will cure a person with that ailment.

 

footnotegirl

Homeopathy = "Placebo: It works because you want it to." 

Runaway22

secondaryPULSE:

GraceInCA:

Mrs E in Oregon:

There is so much information out there it is hard to decide what to do. Often I find myself on the fence, usually I error on the side of caution / with homeopathy myself.

This came out yesterday:

Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus

Posted on:

Thursday, January 17th 2013 at 5:00 am

Written By:

Sayer Ji, Founder

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/studies-find-flu-shots-can-harm-your-heart-infant-and-fetus

There's so much BS in that article, I don't even know where to begin. 

Lol. took the words right out of my mouth.

 

Same here. *facepalm* 

smash1228

Just to play devils advocate...

https://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/149858/vaccine_court_awards_millions_to?utm_medium=sm&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=natural_fanpage

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/post2468343_b_2468343.html

For the record I'm not anti vax and will most likely vaccinate on a delayed schedule, but it makes you wonder why they are awarding millions of dollars if there is in fact no correlation...?? 

laurakaz13

smash1228:

Just to play devils advocate...

https://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/149858/vaccine_court_awards_millions_to?utm_medium=sm&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=natural_fanpage

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/post2468343_b_2468343.html

For the record I'm not anti vax and will most likely vaccinate on a delayed schedule, but it makes you wonder why they are awarding millions of dollars if there is in fact no correlation...?? 

Yup, The Stir by Cafe Mom is totally scientifically factual!  For real!!!    I mean, why bother with actual peer-reviewed studies when you can just look up mommy blogs to make decisions about life or death matters regarding your children?

smash1228

Well, seeing as the links that I posted are not studies but a fact that the vaccine court just awarded millions of dollars for 2 children with autism. I'm not sure they would need to make a peer reviewed study on a court case.

Edited for typos, and I meant to quote the last comment not sure why it didn't work. 

Mrs E in Oregon

Wow, you get away from the forum for a week or two and see you've really pissed people off. Sorry about the homeopathy thing, my phone auto corrected from naturopathy. For the record, I hope to have my children vaccinated on a delayed schedule.